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I researched about the matter, and reached some conclusions:
- I don't want to use the TEST POINTER method, I really don't care about OTA updates or Track ID app (as far as I know there are no more consequences), Shazam and Soundhound do the same
- I would like to unlock the bootloader in some manner that, if I need to relock the warranty will still be valid (same goes for root, but I guess flashing an original firmware unroots the device)
That said, found the official instructions to unlock the BL, but still have the main question: is it the procedure completely reversible? Also, is it free?
Thanks in advance. Also really appreciate if someone corrects something wrong I said.
Maxxd01 said:
I researched about the matter, and reached some conclusions:
- I don't want to use the TEST POINTER method, I really don't care about OTA updates or Track ID app (as far as I know there are no more consequences), Shazam and Soundhound do the same
- I would like to unlock the bootloader in some manner that, if I need to relock the warranty will still be valid (same goes for root, but I guess flashing an original firmware unroots the device)
That said, found the official instructions to unlock the BL, but still have the main question: is it the procedure completely reversible? Also, is it free?
Thanks in advance. Also really appreciate if someone corrects something wrong I said.
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you can still relock your bootloader and receive official sony updates, but the problem is, you loose DRM(in which if sony finds out, you still lose warranty).
i found this thread and said that DRM cannot be restored :/
I don't know about non free relocking if it will be able to restore DRM though.
oh and by the way, this thread provides the easiest way to unlock and relock your bootloader for free.
goodluck and enjoy
DRM cannot be restored at all.
Install TrackID from market and it will work.
Bootloader can be relocked, doesn't matter how you unlocked.
And yes, it is free.
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Someguyfromhell said:
DRM cannot be restored at all.
Install TrackID from market and it will work.
Bootloader can be relocked, doesn't matter how you unlocked.
And yes, it is free.
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Ok, so I suppose the DRM Keys only affect the OTA updates (how should we care if we are unlocking BL for custom ROMs
So, I suppose if I have a problem on my Live (but it still turns on), I apply an OFW and then relock it, it's a matter of luck if the techical assistance is going to check if the DRM is still valid or not.
What method do you advice to unlock the BL?
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Ok, so I suppose the DRM Keys only affect the OTA updates (how should we care if we are unlocking BL for custom ROMs
So, I suppose if I have a problem on my Live (but it still turns on), I apply an OFW and then relock it, it's a matter of luck if the techical assistance is going to check if the DRM is still valid or not.
What method do you advice to unlock the BL?
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Method, pick which is better for you. I used official method, no messing with cables.
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Unlock it the way you prefer to it does not matter it will lose warranty any way it is just luck if they will check it or not at the service center. Any way it is really hard to completely brick your phone unless you don't know what you are doing. The main difference is with the test point method you are able to update using seus without problems and it looks more complicated than it really is I only used a clip
just a question about unlocking thru official method.
since you would have to get the unlock key directly from Sony.
would they be able to track your phone since you will be giving them some details like your name, IMEI, email etc. to get the unlock code?
do the service centers have access to that database?
There are no Sony Mobile Service Centers, phones need to be taken back to shop and they use service of specific mobile repair shop.
Depending on what reason you need to take it back, they might want to check it or not. No one has so far done this, so we have no information.
What is DRM and Track ID ?
I want to unlock bootloader my phone, but I am still confused, what is the risk of a official bootloader from sony ? What is DRM and Track ID ? what is its usefulness for wt19i?
sorry my english is not good
dianfajar said:
I want to unlock bootloader my phone, but I am still confused, what is the risk of a official bootloader from sony ? What is DRM and Track ID ? what is its usefulness for wt19i?
sorry my english is not good
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There is no risk either way the difference is that with the official method you will lose your drm (Digital rights management) and the official support of track id (the app from se that you use to search for the info of a song playing in the radio or the tv etc.) meanwhile using the test point method you will not lose them. If you want to install a custom rom like cm9 or miui you need to unlock your bootloader to be able to flash the custom kernels those roms need.
can you save DRM with CWM backup before unlocking bootloader?
manilu001 said:
can you save DRM with CWM backup before unlocking bootloader?
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Nope, DRM is not saved in CWM backup.
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Thanks in advance for all helpfull answers.
I just want to understand the following. Some Live's come with "unlock bootloader allowed"="no" others ="yes". What does that means and more important: what are the implications?
I cannot understand the difference because as fair as I understand right now, all live's (branded/sim unlocked or not) are unlockable (referring to bootloader).
Maxxd01 said:
Thanks in advance for all helpfull answers.
I just want to understand the following. Some Live's come with "unlock bootloader allowed"="no" others ="yes". What does that means and more important: what are the implications?
I cannot understand the difference because as fair as I understand right now, all live's (branded/sim unlocked or not) are unlockable (referring to bootloader).
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When they come with boot loader unlock : no it is a branded sim locked phone in which case you can unlock bootloader but you will have no access to fastboot meaning you are unable to flash a custom kernel, also there will be no way you can officially unlock the bootloader so will have to use the test point method and of course you will need to pay to fully unlock your phone to be able to access fastboot and flash custom kernels.
Did I miss something??
ginryu said:
When they come with boot loader unlock : no it is a branded sim locked phone in which case you can unlock bootloader but you will have no access to fastboot meaning you are unable to flash a custom kernel, also there will be no way you can officially unlock the bootloader so will have to use the test point method and of course you will need to pay to fully unlock your phone to be able to access fastboot and flash custom kernels.
Did I miss something??
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So, for sim locked branded phones ("no")
- To unlock the bootloader: test point method
- Access fastboot: use (and pay) through wotan server
Am I right? I never though that was two different problems.
Maxxd01 said:
So, for sim locked branded phones ("no")
- To unlock the bootloader: test point method
- Access fastboot: use (and pay) through wotan server
Am I right? I never though that was two different problems.
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I'm not really sure about Wotan server however I'm pretty sure about setool and omnius and if you are willing to pay the phone will be fully unlocked (bootloader, sim and fastboot) with one procedure using the test point method.
ginryu said:
When they come with boot loader unlock : no it is a branded sim locked phone in which case you can unlock bootloader but you will have no access to fastboot meaning you are unable to flash a custom kernel, also there will be no way you can officially unlock the bootloader so will have to use the test point method and of course you will need to pay to fully unlock your phone to be able to access fastboot and flash custom kernels.
Did I miss something??
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So, I'm curious, if I have branded sim lock Live ("no" bootloader) can I install an original firmware without using an official channel? Do I need fastboot access?
I'm asking because I'm almost sure that my carrier will not update the Live to 4.0, so I suppose I have to use some other tool in order to install it.
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So, I'm curious, if I have branded sim lock Live ("no" bootloader) can I install an original firmware without using an official channel? Do I need fastboot access?
I'm asking because I'm almost sure that my carrier will not update the Live to 4.0, so I suppose I have to use some other tool in order to install it.
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you can debrand (install a generic firmware) your phone using wotan server for free and as i know it will also change your product code so next time and official sony update is available your phone will get it.
thancks! its helps...
another noob question from me
can i relock BL from test point method?
n do i have to flash stock kernel before relock?
i'm using rage kernel right now.
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Is there any unofficial way to unlock bootloader on xperia P,S,U? So if I have to carry it to the service I could relock it again and not lose my warranty
read this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1527159
this is official way...i am looking for unofficial
Its not official way , one of unofficial way. Official way is here http://unlockbootloader.sonymobile.com/instructions
Another very hard method for testpoint method ( u will need to open up ur goodie)
And if u r looking to change unlock status from no to yes.. nothing working at present...
s-X-s said:
Its not official way , one of unofficial way. Official way is here http://unlockbootloader.sonymobile.com/instructions
Another very hard method for testpoint method ( u will need to open up ur goodie)
And if u r looking to change unlock status from no to yes.. nothing working at present...
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please read the post of the link that procyon_prowler posted here and you will find on two or three places where it says that it is OFFICIAL way...using the sony webpage...
so that mean I have to gave them my IMEI and by that I completely lose warranty because guys at the service can check and see that i had unlocked bootloader even if I lock it again
Read the comments on page two. Maybe that'll make you understand how the unlocking/locking works.
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Look! I even copied the important part (by bin4ry) for so you don't need to read it all
After relock you can use SEUS / PCC / EMMA again. The imei is used to generate the unique unlock-key. Also it gets stored to check if you claim warranty. Arc has showed us that SE is not denying warranty at all if you unlocked. They just decline it if the cause of the failure is a custom rom etc. pp. for example if you ****ed your cpu with overclocking.
SEUS/PCC/EMMA checks TA area for the unlock key, if it is present it reject the phone and refuses to update. The relock Doom posted here is the same way we worked out on Arc. It deletes the unlockkey from TA and this way you are again able to use SEUS/PCC/EMMA.
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i read that but could not figure out what it means...so if i unlock bootloader there is no way that they can find out that i have unlocked it after i relock it again?
exactly
Hello everyone.
I had posted this in the Z forum, not realizing there was a Z Ultra forum. So I will just quote my previous post and add some info at the end:
Hello guys. New guy here with an Xperia Z Ultra phone.
I'm trying to load the Paranoid Android custom ROM.
Had a couple of questions:
1. I went thru Sony's instructions to unlock the bootloader. When I ran the fastboot -i 0x0fce oem unlock (e-mail code), the first error message I got was "FAILED - Remote - Command did not succeed". So I tried the exact command again, and then I got "FAILED - Remote: The device is already rooted".
I have searched high and low, and cannot seem to find any way to verify that the bootloader is now in fact unlocked.
2. Reading the instruction on how to install CWM/TWRP recovery menus, Every single list of instructions includes the following "This tutorial is only for Sony Xperia Z Ultra with 510 and 493 LTE firmware. Do not use it for any other carriers or variants"
Again, I have searched high and low to find a way to confirm what firmware version I have. All I know is I have the C6806 model, with the build number: 14.2.A.0.290
So can someone please help out a very confused guy here? I don't want to brick my phone by accident
So far it's still working ok
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So far, after doing some major searching, I seem to have found that I currently have "290" Firmware, and that this Firmware is currently NOT able to be rooted. Is this correct?
Also, I still have not found a way to verify wether the boot loader actually did unlock or not. From what I have been able to read, it seems that if a proper boot loader was in fact, unlocked, it would have wiped all the data on my phone along with the SD card data.
So far, it seems everything on my phone is intact. So does this mean the boot loader unlock command failed for me? If so, why did I get the reply "this device is already rooted?"
I can't believe how difficult it is to root a damn Android phone! Jailbreaking an Apple device is 10 times easier!
First of all, it's usually pretty easy to root Android devices. In most cases it's only a simple click, but sony has done a good(?) job at fixing exploits, so it does it much harder for us.
Second, you can check if your bootloader is locked or unlocked by opening the dialer and insert *#*#7378423#*#*, go to "Service Info" and then "Configuration". If your bootloader is unlocked, it should say "Rooting status: Bootloader unlocked: Yes". It's easier to use Flashtool to unlock the bootloader if you're having issues using a terminal.
You'll find the rest here (including bootloader unlocking). If you need some help, ask in that thread.
If you aren't boot loader unlocked then "BACKUP TA PARTITION" from My Lord's guide @LordManhattan
Just incase you need to re-lock it for service
LordManhattan said:
First of all, it's usually pretty easy to root Android devices. In most cases it's only a simple click, but sony has done a good(?) job at fixing exploits, so it does it much harder for us.
Second, you can check if your bootloader is locked or unlocked by opening the dialer and insert *#*#7378423#*#*, go to "Service Info" and then "Configuration". If your bootloader is unlocked, it should say "Rooting status: Bootloader unlocked: Yes". It's easier to use Flashtool to unlock the bootloader if you're having issues using a terminal.
You'll find the rest here (including bootloader unlocking). If you need some help, ask in that thread.
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First of all it' pretty damn complicated and unrewarding to root a Sony device. Not all android but Sony definately. We checked, bootloader is unlockable. We unlocked and relocked bootloader prevoiusly because there is no robust, easy-to-install ROM for ZU. But time to time we try to root it.
Now, the question is the same: what should we do to re-unlock the bootloader if anything is OK, but flashtool says "Command did not succeed" for the first time and "Device is already rooted" for subsequent times at unlocking?
Please write some advice about the question, not about TA backup and your success. Thx!
Champdor said:
First of all it' pretty damn complicated and unrewarding to root a Sony device. Not all android but Sony definately. We checked, bootloader is unlockable. We unlocked and relocked bootloader prevoiusly because there is no robust, easy-to-install ROM for ZU. But time to time we try to root it.
Now, the question is the same: what should we do to re-unlock the bootloader if anything is OK, but flashtool says "Command did not succeed" for the first time and "Device is already rooted" for subsequent times at unlocking?
Please write some advice about the question, not about TA backup and your success. Thx!
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Oh, are we demanding help now?
Bootloader unlocking is a straight forward process. I've had a couple of strange errors in Flashtool while trying to unlock the bootloader, but just close Flashtool and try again. Also be sure to be on the latest version of Flashtool.
LordManhattan said:
Oh, are we demanding help now?
Bootloader unlocking is a straight forward process. I've had a couple of strange errors in Flashtool while trying to unlock the bootloader, but just close Flashtool and try again. Also be sure to be on the latest version of Flashtool.
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No sir, not at all. I wrote please, no demanding. Well yes, I'm a bit picky because there were no answer and I usually find some on XDA. Besides I used custom roms on Samsung devices for years (SGS2, SGN, SGN2) and I was disapponted when I bought my XZU that there are very few roms and I couldn't use them (I managed with very hard work to go back to stock in 9 hours after unsuccesful flashing).
So there is some basic problem every time. Like trying to root but cannot re-unlock because of some mysterious errors with no solutions.
Enough of my problems, your answer is much appreciated, will try to re-unlock some time. Thx!
Champdor
Champdor said:
No sir, not at all. I wrote please, no demanding. Well yes, I'm a bit picky because there were no answer and I usually find some on XDA. Besides I used custom roms on Samsung devices for years (SGS2, SGN, SGN2) and I was disapponted when I bought my XZU that there are very few roms and I couldn't use them (I managed with very hard work to go back to stock in 9 hours after unsuccesful flashing).
So there is some basic problem every time. Like trying to root but cannot re-unlock because of some mysterious errors with no solutions.
Enough of my problems, your answer is much appreciated, will try to re-unlock some time. Thx!
Champdor
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Oh, i get that. I came from Samsung myself, and this is my first Sony device ever, so I've had some issues myself. I've gotten the same error message(s) as you before, and i think i restarted Flashtool and rebooted my Ultra and it was back to normal again - i think, but it "fixed itself" after trying a couple of times, so don't give up. It's also important to always be on the latest version of Flashtool.
It would also help us if you could tell us what you're trying to achieve, so you don't end up spending 9 hours on something that takes 5 minutes
@Champdor
From what I can make out you have never managed root your phone or back up the TA. If the latter is true then there is very little point in relocking the bootloader.
Yes the process is a little harder than Samsung, but the last device I rooted was a ZTE, and that was even harder to root and flash from what I can remember (yes this is my first Sony device as well, and I will buy another...)
Take you time and read the stickies that we have written and all should go well. Don't be afraid to ask (intelligent) questions if you get stuck, and read some more
HELP!
i am in same situation as OP
in past, i unlocked the bootloader then i relocked.
now I like to re-unlock. but I get same errors (i.e. 'command did not suceed' or 'device is already rooted')
i check service menu and it says 'bootloader unlock allowed: yes' meaning its not unlocked yet.
i use latest flashtool and try to unlock but i get error
can any expert help!?
thanks for your help
corrado85 said:
HELP!
i am in same situation as OP
in past, i unlocked the bootloader then i relocked.
now I like to re-unlock. but I get same errors (i.e. 'command did not suceed' or 'device is already rooted')
i check service menu and it says 'bootloader unlock allowed: yes' meaning its not unlocked yet.
i use latest flashtool and try to unlock but i get error
can any expert help!?
thanks for your help
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I have not had this error so have not tested this, but what happens if you flash a full FTF and wipe everything then try to unlock the BL?
And remember that you can take a backup of the unlocked BL (re member to name it as such) and just flash that to unlock again. Doing it this way you don't get the format that happens when using the unlock code.
I followed this post to downgrade, root, i use Backup TA v9.10 to backup DRM Keys, use Flashtool 0.9.14.0 to unlock Bootloader, then to flash other Rom's (stock and customs), came back to Stock Rom .681, relock the Bootloader with Flastool 0.9.15.0 flashed the last .757 and unlock the Bootloader again with no kind of problems using Flashtool 0.9.15.0....
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I have not had this error so have not tested this, but what happens if you flash a full FTF and wipe everything then try to unlock the BL?
And remember that you can take a backup of the unlocked BL (re member to name it as such) and just flash that to unlock again. Doing it this way you don't get the format that happens when using the unlock code.
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I just flashed C6802 .757 FW using flashtool, and i get same issue
is there a tutorial about backup of the unlocked BL? assuming you meant I have to have own device backup..
this is so confusing at the end :crying:
corrado85 said:
I just flashed C6802 .757 FW using flashtool, and i get same issue
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I dont know what else to suggest other than rebooting every thing and reinstalling all the drivers
is there a tutorial about backup of the unlocked BL? assuming you meant I have to have own device backup..
this is so confusing at the end :crying:
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You just back it up as you would for a locked BL. Just remember to make sure you name them well so you know which is the locked one and the unlocked one.
NEVER use a TA backup from another phone, you WILL HARD BRICK IT
Lc1975 said:
I followed this post to downgrade, root, i use Backup TA v9.10 to backup DRM Keys, use Flashtool 0.9.14.0 to unlock Bootloader, then to flash other Rom's (stock and customs), came back to Stock Rom .681, relock the Bootloader with Flastool 0.9.15.0 flashed the last .757 and unlock the Bootloader again with no kind of problems using Flashtool 0.9.15.0....
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problem is i get message 'device already rooted' when i enter my bootloader key using flashtool as well
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blueether said:
I dont know what else to suggest other than rebooting every thing and reinstalling all the drivers
You just back it up as you would for a locked BL. Just remember to make sure you name them well so you know which is the locked one and the unlocked one.
NEVER use a TA backup from another phone, you WILL HARD BRICK IT
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ahh ok, in that case, i do not have a backed up unlocked bootloader rom
corrado85 said:
problem is i get message 'device already rooted' when i enter my bootloader key using flashtool as well
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ahh ok, in that case, i do not have a backed up unlocked bootloader rom
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Did you tried:
*#*#SERVICE#*#*
and confirm that the Bootloader is unlock?
Lc1975 said:
Did you tried:
*#*#SERVICE#*#*
and confirm that the Bootloader is unlock?
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It states
Rooting status
Bootloader unlocked allowed:Yes
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It states
Rooting status
Bootloader unlocked allowed:Yes
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When you try to unlock the Bootloader.. What button or icon do you click?
The one who has the padlock or BLU?
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When you try to unlock the Bootloader.. What button or icon do you click?
The one who has the padlock or BLU?
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I choose which states 'BLU'
actually I do get the option to click on padlock but i dont know what to do there
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I choose which states 'BLU'
actually I do get the option to click on padlock but i dont know what to do there
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The padlock is to root the device..
Sorry but i can't help you much more then this... I don't have much knowledge to go foward...
Try to start from scratch..
Downgrade...
Root...
Try to unlock the Bootloader
And update to the latest...
root didnt work
Hello , i want to root my phone z ultra 6833 .757 i watch this video youtube . com/watch?v=uFSeSe8gQOY
i unlock bootloader after this install 757.img by flashtool so i can open recovery but after this i didnt find the same file he run i try run supersu.zip but the phone havent rooted plz what the problem
My information:
- Bootloader unlock allowed: Yes
I'm use the fastboot and flashtool, rooted or not, any firmware always get same problem....
I'm really want to unlock to try another rom. Pls help me.
accountvip said:
My information:
- Bootloader unlock allowed: Yes
I'm use the fastboot and flashtool, rooted or not, any firmware always get same problem....
I'm really want to unlock to try another rom. Pls help me.
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UNLOCKING THE BOOTLOADER:
This may wipe your phone, so backup your stuff
• Go to Sony's dev site
• Request the unlock key and check your mail straight away. Email is quick these days.
• Open Flashtool on your computer (yes, the one you installed earlier)
• Click the "BLU" icon
• Follow the steps and enter your unlock key
Copied from LordManhattan's guide.
Link to guide.....http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2569904
Yes, i did step by step as you said... i can UB on xperia go but can't on my C6802.
accountvip said:
Yes, i did step by step as you said... i can UB on xperia go but can on my C6802.
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Sorry , that was all I knew to suggest. The only phone I recall being unable to be unlocked is one from Bell Canada.
I am a rookie with these things and I would like to get some clarification.
I want to root my tablet, I am very satisfied with it and its system, all I need is to root it without touching my bootloader and drm keys. There are so many threads about it claiming its possible without unlocking the BL and I am not sure which tutorial should I use to root my device.
My device is LTE version, nothing modified and firmware is 23.0.1.A.0.16.
HenrichGrinch said:
I am a rookie with these things and I would like to get some clarification.
I want to root my tablet, I am very satisfied with it and its system, all I need is to root it without touching my bootloader and drm keys. There are so many threads about it claiming its possible without unlocking the BL and I am not sure which tutorial should I use to root my device.
My device is LTE version, nothing modified and firmware is 23.0.1.A.0.16.
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you can try Towelroot as I see Z3TC is supported but I didnt test it on my tablet
where did you see that z3tc is supported by towel ? i can't find a device list or so.
HenrichGrinch said:
I am a rookie with these things and I would like to get some clarification.
I want to root my tablet, I am very satisfied with it and its system, all I need is to root it without touching my bootloader and drm keys. There are so many threads about it claiming its possible without unlocking the BL and I am not sure which tutorial should I use to root my device.
My device is LTE version, nothing modified and firmware is 23.0.1.A.0.16.
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There is only one method at this time to get root on this tablet and this method involves unlocking your bootloader after doing a backup of you DRM keys (TA partition). Once you rooted your device with the unlocked bootloader you can reflash the TA partition and the bootloader will be locked again with all DRM keys intact as if you never unlocked it in the first place, but with root. Towelroot is not supported as the kernel exploit that was used is patched since nearly half a year now.