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Hi guys, I've never used any kindle device before but the price and specs of Kindle Fire HDX got me all excited and I wanna buy it but in one condition and that is if it has Google Play. I hate Amazon Appstore it doesn't have 90% of the apps that Google Play has. What's the point of buying this powerful device if I can't play latest & greatest games and use different apps? I heard that kindle fire hd is rootable and can be converted to android? So I just wanna know if it's possible to could get access to all google play apps and games and play them on this device after it get released?
Thank You
Not without rooting. Hopefully they'll find an exploit soon enough after release.
Ishan Sardar said:
Hi guys, I've never used any kindle device before but the price and specs of Kindle Fire HDX got me all excited and I wanna buy it but in one condition and that is if it has Google Play. I hate Amazon Appstore it doesn't have 90% of the apps that Google Play has. What's the point of buying this powerful device if I can't play latest & greatest games and use different apps? I heard that kindle fire hd is rootable and can be converted to android? So I just wanna know if it's possible to could get access to all google play apps and games and play them on this device after it get released?
Thank You
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The current generation of Fires (Kindle Fire 7" HD, Kindle Fire 2, and Kindle Fire 8.9" HD) have been exploited and are indeed rootable and can have the Play Store installed, as they are already running Android 4.0.3 (ICS). However, the next generation (the HDX models) have just been announced. I don't even think they're even shipping yet (I could be wrong), so there's no exploit yet. And even once there is, there are no safegaurds in place to revert back to stock should something go wrong. The Fire HDs and the Fire HDXs run totally different software (what Amazon calls Fire OS is really just Android 4.2.2 JellyBean), which means exploits for one may not work for the other. And you can pretty much guarantee that the bootloader is going to be majorly locked down (we never really cracked this one--we had to install a second one in order to enable recovery). So it's gonna be a while.
Yes, the Amazon Appstore is nothing to be proud of, but for a while, there won't be any other option. Amazon may decide to screw us over and not even allow for the installation of third-party apps via sideloading.
We have to wait and see what the Kindle fire hdx has. I remember reading somewhere with the Kindle hd that you just install some framework.apk file and that does the job. Lets hope the kindle fire hdx wouldn't be tough to pass by.
Hello, I have question too.
Can I install apk files I download from the internet into this device? . I have never own or use a Kindlefire ever. But I have just preorder HdX on amazon.
If it is just like other Android devices with Unknown Sources check in the settings then the lack of Play Store is just fine by me.
Do not really remember in which review, I have seen alot these days, but they say, that sideloading is possible.
As my KF is rooted with G-Market, I can always download apps from Google and than transfer to HDX. This was one among other arguments, to pre-order HDX.
What I wonder, if it is really international - with international keyboard. Or if that's possible to load third-party keyboard like SWYPE and make it work without root.
When we all have the devices, let's hit that 'mayday' button and ask the agent.
Ph0enix_216 said:
The current generation of Fires (Kindle Fire 7" HD, Kindle Fire 2, and Kindle Fire 8.9" HD) have been exploited and are indeed rootable and can have the Play Store installed, as they are already running Android 4.0.3 (ICS). However, the next generation (the HDX models) have just been announced. I don't even think they're even shipping yet (I could be wrong), so there's no exploit yet. And even once there is, there are no safegaurds in place to revert back to stock should something go wrong. The Fire HDs and the Fire HDXs run totally different software (what Amazon calls Fire OS is really just Android 4.2.2 JellyBean), which means exploits for one may not work for the other. And you can pretty much guarantee that the bootloader is going to be majorly locked down (we never really cracked this one--we had to install a second one in order to enable recovery). So it's gonna be a while.
Yes, the Amazon Appstore is nothing to be proud of, but for a while, there won't be any other option. Amazon may decide to screw us over and not even allow for the installation of third-party apps via sideloading.
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Sideloading
Yes, sideloading is possible. Indeed, for me, essential.
My HDX arrived yesterday. It's a jewel of a device, the dimensions are perfect, the screen is the best I've seen on any small device and Mojito is quick and lag-free. The power of the processor/GPU are apparent. Sound is excellent though not all that loud. It's a beautiful thing!
I have installed the XAF build of XBMC that hands video over to MX Player (free). The combo works well and movies look superb. Video loading times are a little longer than on my Nexus 7 and I suspect Amazon has configured memory to suit Prime, its own video service, and not anything else.
Other apps I've sideloaded include: Advanced Task Manager; Archos Video Player; Dolphin Beta; SpeedTest; ES File Explorer (also available from Amazon App Store; 1Mobile Market and two games.
My overall initial impression is that if we ever get to a custom rom on this device, it will scream past anything else out there. If we don't, it's still a zippy, beautiful thing.
Ph0enix_216 said:
The current generation of Fires (Kindle Fire 7" HD, Kindle Fire 2, and Kindle Fire 8.9" HD) have been exploited and are indeed rootable and can have the Play Store installed, as they are already running Android 4.0.3 (ICS). However, the next generation (the HDX models) have just been announced. I don't even think they're even shipping yet (I could be wrong), so there's no exploit yet. And even once there is, there are no safegaurds in place to revert back to stock should something go wrong. The Fire HDs and the Fire HDXs run totally different software (what Amazon calls Fire OS is really just Android 4.2.2 JellyBean), which means exploits for one may not work for the other. And you can pretty much guarantee that the bootloader is going to be majorly locked down (we never really cracked this one--we had to install a second one in order to enable recovery). So it's gonna be a while.
Yes, the Amazon Appstore is nothing to be proud of, but for a while, there won't be any other option. Amazon may decide to screw us over and not even allow for the installation of third-party apps via sideloading.
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Thankfully sideloading is working and I have been able to load most of Google apps on there. Google Play Store doesn't work yet as it probably will require root and Google+ is not working either. I'll continue to tinker and see how far I get.
Android Cowboy said:
Thankfully sideloading is working and I have been able to load most of Google apps on there. Google Play Store doesn't work yet as it probably will require root and Google+ is not working either. I'll continue to tinker and see how far I get.
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Google Play needs the Google Services Framework to work. And it's a system level app, so yeah, it'll need root. Wish I had enough money to buy one of these. Unfortunately, I still owe my parents $1,000 for my car, and I've still got school to play for. Still, it looks like it would be a fun tablet to dink around with.
Android Cowboy said:
Thankfully sideloading is working and I have been able to load most of Google apps on there. Google Play Store doesn't work yet as it probably will require root and Google+ is not working either. I'll continue to tinker and see how far I get.
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Does anyone know how to get Adobe Flash working on the HDX? I just received the 7" hdx & got a few Google apps working, but not the play store or flash. I have to get a swf file working & seemingly all swf viewers require flash on the device.
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Android Cowboy said:
Thankfully sideloading is working and I have been able to load most of Google apps on there. Google Play Store doesn't work yet as it probably will require root and Google+ is not working either. I'll continue to tinker and see how far I get.
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sorry I never owned a kindle what is sideloading? and when u said you were able to load most google apps what do u actually mean? I can just download the apk file of any app/games from google play put it inside kindle and install it? and it will work?
Ishan Sardar said:
sorry I never owned a kindle what is sideloading? and when u said you were able to load most google apps what do u actually mean? I can just download the apk file of any app/games from google play put it inside kindle and install it? and it will work?
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What you have done is called sideloading but not all apps work this way. Some Google apps don't work since they require Google Play Services which doesn't work on the Kindle. So Google+ will not install or work on the Kindle currently. Google apps also require login which Kindle doesn't provide a method and required a bit of tweaking which can be done. I hope that clears things up.
evanladoux said:
Does anyone know how to get Adobe Flash working on the HDX? I just received the 7" hdx & got a few Google apps working, but not the play store or flash. I have to get a swf file working & seemingly all swf viewers require flash on the device.
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There is another thread where I explain how to get flash working you need the the flash.apk and dolphin browser.apk side load both and then turn on flash support in dolphin then you should be good to go.
Have Fun!!!
Has anyone gotten google play store working? I tried following the steps from android cowboy but I get back to back errors for google services no matter what.
On a different note, is there a way to remove the ads/special offers for free?
Thanks,
Sean
sjh1022 said:
Has anyone gotten google play store working? I tried following the steps from android cowboy but I get back to back errors for google services no matter what.
On a different note, is there a way to remove the ads/special offers for free?
Thanks,
Sean
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Google play is a system apps so it's gonna need a rooted or modified rom with bootloader cracked. Same is needed to disable kindle offers.
So is there any good way of getting apps beyond side loading?
n60 said:
Google play is a system apps so it's gonna need a rooted or modified rom with bootloader cracked. Same is needed to disable kindle offers.
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Only the second part is true. You can get the Google play store apk on any device, regardless of root or not.
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r3pwn said:
Only the second part is true. You can get the Google play store apk on any device, regardless of root or not.
Sent from my Kindle Fire HD 7 using xda app-developers app
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You can get it on the device, but it won't work. ... from experience. If you know how, ... do tell!
These are not the droids you're looking for.
evanladoux said:
You can get it on the device, but it won't work. ... from experience. If you know how, ... do tell!
These are not the droids you're looking for.
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Try this link.
Although it says Kindle Fire HD, ignore that. Ignore step 3. Also ignore anything that says about copying to /system/app.
Just install the apps in the order he has listed then install the "Vending.apk" (That is the Google Play Store). Please also note that you will most likely not be able to install apps from it. :/
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Try this link.
Although it says Kindle Fire HD, ignore that. Ignore step 3. Also ignore anything that says about copying to /system/app.
Just install the apps in the order he has listed then install the "Vending.apk" (That is the Google Play Store). Please also note that you will most likely not be able to install apps from it. :/
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Did you ever try 1mobile market?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=me.onemobile.lite.android
One way to get a lot of Android apps onto Kindle, until we get root.
These are not the droids you're looking for.
r3pwn said:
Try this link.
Although it says Kindle Fire HD, ignore that. Ignore step 3. Also ignore anything that says about copying to /system/app.
Just install the apps in the order he has listed then install the "Vending.apk" (That is the Google Play Store). Please also note that you will most likely not be able to install apps from it. :/
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lmao
Seems to me like there should be some kind of app you can run on your rooted android device to pull the apk. Then install the full version on the Kindle via sideloading.
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Better results
You'll get better results in the interim from installing:
a) 1MobileMarket
or
b) Aptoide
or
c) BlackMart Alpha (shh..)
Tinkering with Google Play Store components before we have root may be an exercise in futility.
The content of the link is quiet useful to me. Thank you for sharing. I decide to buy a licence. :good:
Anyone tried SNAPPEA TO passthru GooglePlay?
I saw a utility SnapPea that seems to allow a pass thru from a PC to Kindle Fire HDX for accessing GooglePlay. As I still have not ordered my HDX I was wondering if anyone has tried this.
Thanks in advance;
Big Al1 said:
I saw a utility SnapPea that seems to allow a pass thru from a PC to Kindle Fire HDX for accessing GooglePlay. As I still have not ordered my HDX I was wondering if anyone has tried this.
Thanks in advance;
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The SnapPea app that I just tested is a way to control your android device from a browser on your computer, similar to AirDroid. It does not allow access to Google Play for the Kindle. What it does do is help you to install an .apk file through the browser, but then we can do that already by allowing sideload anyway. So maybe you were thinking about something else?
The Gapps and Google Services Framework processes keep crashing. Any ideas?
Kindle Fire HD 2013
nudawa said:
The Gapps and Google Services Framework processes keep crashing. Any ideas?
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Same here.. Just bought a Kindle Fire HD 2013 and tried every possible attempt described on many how-to to get it rooted for Google Play. Nothing worked. Device current version is 11.3.0.5.
Tried the side load as well described for HDX. Gmail app works but that's about it.
Anyone succeeded on this version?
Thanks
marcello2k13 said:
Same here.. Just bought a Kindle Fire HD 2013 and tried every possible attempt described on many how-to to get it rooted for Google Play. Nothing worked. Device current version is 11.3.0.5.
Tried the side load as well described for HDX. Gmail app works but that's about it.
Anyone succeeded on this version?
Thanks
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I basically got pretty much every app to work except for Hangouts and Play Store. This includes everything from Voice to Gmail to Map to Google Earth to Google Plus to whatever. The key for me was to start with base configs that Android Cowboy posted, but then add bunch of dependencies from android 4.2.2 and update with latest version of backed up apps. For example, I have had to install Google Play Services 3.2.66 first and then was able to update to 4.0.31 after reboot. That version was required for Youtube to work properly (i.e. allow account sign-in). Things still crash sometimes, but it's not a huge deal.
Main thing is Youtube, Music, Gmail and Calendar are all working more or less ok. Chrome signed into my google account, but its not pulling down settings (bookmarks, open tabs from other computers, etc...). Google Plus crashes sometimes but works. Hangouts is clearly missing a dependency of some sort. I installed most things I could thing of from default Android 4.2.2 CM10.1 apps package and from backing up my phone (galaxy s4), but it's still no go. It would be nice to get that going as well. Oh well, Skype can cover most things there.
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oblomov said:
I basically got pretty much every app to work except for Hangouts and Play Store. This includes everything from Voice to Gmail to Map to Google Earth to Google Plus to whatever. The key for me was to start with base configs that Android Cowboy posted, but then add bunch of dependencies from android 4.2.2 and update with latest version of backed up apps. For example, I have had to install Google Play Services 3.2.66 first and then was able to update to 4.0.31 after reboot. That version was required for Youtube to work properly (i.e. allow account sign-in). Things still crash sometimes, but it's not a huge deal.
Main thing is Youtube, Music, Gmail and Calendar are all working more or less ok. Chrome signed into my google account, but its not pulling down settings (bookmarks, open tabs from other computers, etc...). Google Plus crashes sometimes but works. Hangouts is clearly missing a dependency of some sort. I installed most things I could thing of from default Android 4.2.2 CM10.1 apps package and from backing up my phone (galaxy s4), but it's still no go. It would be nice to get that going as well. Oh well, Skype can cover most things there.
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Wanted to confirm that I also have Google Voice working on the HDX 7 (since I rarely see people mentioning it as a Google App). Interestingly, I also got Talkatone working on the HDX with my Google Voice number, even though the app's FAQ plainly says that Google Voice will NOT work with it. As a result, as long as I have wifi, I can now easily use my Google Voice number to make and receive calls.
When I download apps from other sources (1mobile) they don't show up in the multi tasking bar. Anyone know of a multitasking app to fix this?
bdtao said:
When I download apps from other sources (1mobile) they don't show up in the multi tasking bar. Anyone know of a multitasking app to fix this?
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I'm using the paid version of floating toucher to access recent apps.
To get apps to show up on the stock multi tasking bar you have to open them from the stock home launcher.
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megathormic said:
I'm using the paid version of floating toucher to access recent apps.
To get apps to show up on the stock multi tasking bar you have to open them from the stock home launcher.
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Correct. The multitasking feature on the HDX is basically just the Carousel, with exactly the same shortcuts in exactly the same order. The only difference is it's hidden on the edge of the screen until you pull it up. So, just as apps launched from alternative launchers won't show up on the Carousel, they also won't show up on the HDX multitasking bar.
Hello everyone, I'm considering to buy a kindle fire HDX 7". I read this article:
And it said that I could install apps and games from other sources than Amazon Appstore. My question is: Do all apps and games can be installed correctly that way (from .apk file)??? And do they all work perfectly after installing???
Thank you.
thethidie said:
Hello everyone, I'm considering to buy a kindle fire HDX 7". I read this article:
And it said that I could install apps and games from other sources than Amazon Appstore. My question is: Do all apps and games can be installed correctly that way (from .apk file)??? And do they all work perfectly after installing???
Thank you.
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yeah, almost every apk app can run on this kindle os, launcher can't set wallpaper though. all you need is a file manager like ES explorer.as for me ,I install a thirdparty appstore called "Wandoujia", works just fine, it doesn't depend on the google service.
Sideloading works well
Yep, sideloading works great. I put 1Mobile and F-Droid markets on it and it's working fine. Same with Humble Bundle games downloaded to it. Except for some deep Google services everything so far works nicely.
THanks to sideloading!
Glad we are able to side-load some apps and games we have purchased but cannot install due to amazon store.
I got dead trigger 2 and heroes of loot playing on my kindle hdx 8.9, and they run and look amazing
Sure many side-loaded apps may not work its really hit or miss but you will find that most of them will work well.
Also another thing to note is that you will not be able to see any of your side-loaded app using fire os launcher so instead just download "smart task bar" free from amazon store, it will allow you to see all your apps installed and so far works great.
jzen said:
Glad we are able to side-load some apps and games we have purchased but cannot install due to amazon store.
I got dead trigger 2 and heroes of loot playing on my kindle hdx 8.9, and they run and look amazing
Sure many side-loaded apps may not work its really hit or miss but you will find that most of them will work well.
Also another thing to note is that you will not be able to see any of your side-loaded app using fire os launcher so instead just download "smart task bar" free from amazon store, it will allow you to see all your apps installed and so far works great.
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Huh? You most certainly can see them in the "launcher" & they can be added to the favorites & to the Carousel. The ONLY time you may not see them, is if you are in the app page & on the "Cloud" tab. They are all visible from the "Device" tab though.
To the OP, most apps do work fine sideloaded. Just enable "Apps from unknown sources" & you are good to go. Also, as mentioned above, any apps that rely on GSF for DRM will not work without modification. That is going to include quite a few of the bigger name paid games.
Many side-loaded games will run upside down no matter the orientation.. You can fix this using the rotation lock button
I have bought shadowrun returns at least 2 times already (android,ipad) and would purchase it again if it was available on amazon store.. I had to instead side-load it and it works great
And thanks for pointing out that all installed apps DO indeed show when looking under "on device" silly me:cyclops:
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I run Better Terminal Emulator Pro (BTEpro) [side loaded] on my droid devices for command line access as root to poke around, move files, etc. Currently, BTEpro runs fine on the KF HDX 8.9 until you try to open the stock keyboard, which results in a force close (FC) & the keyboard remains active after the FC.
EDIT: even though BTE results in FC when opening the stock keyboard, it will work great with an external BT keyboard
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jzen said:
Many side-loaded games will run upside down no matter the orientation.. You can fix this using the rotation lock button
I have bought shadowrun returns at least 2 times already (android,ipad) and would purchase it again if it was available on amazon store.. I had to instead side-load it and it works great
And thanks for pointing out that all installed apps DO indeed show when looking under "on device" silly me:cyclops:
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How were you able to side load shadowrun. I bought it on my Toshiba thrive and now want to move it to my new kindle fire . The file explorer app fails to generate a setup .apk file for paid apps. where did you get the apk ?
Thanks in advance.
Neek
neekscool said:
How were you able to side load shadowrun. I bought it on my Toshiba thrive and now want to move it to my new kindle fire . The file explorer app fails to generate a setup .apk file for paid apps. where did you get the apk ?
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You can't sideload a paid app... AFAIK. However, I have no problem Getting Google Play store to work if you use HDX Utility to install it. Then you have best of both worlds: something that runs both Amazon AND Google. I have plenty of games I bought and play through both.
Hi.
I'm being tempted to buy the new Kindle Fire HDX because of the build quality, amazing speakers and amazing specs. What puts me off is the lack of Google Play store but my main concern is not being able to download and sign-in to Google services and apps such as Youtube, maps, Email, etc.
What alternative ways (or third-party stores) that i can download so i can use and sign-in to most (if not all) of Google services apps that i normally need and have?
Please advice.
Thanks.
Take a look at the forums. At this point you can flash your HDX so that it's basically Android 4.2.2. Thing like Google Apps will all work. I check Gmail and use Google Drive daily on my HDX.
HDX is the best 7 inch tablet on the market right now. Its only real flaw being Fire OS can be remedied by anyone even remotely competent.
1mobile app store works, and you can download most if not all of the google apps through that. All that's really missing is the play store.
My wife has the old Kindle Fire HD and i have downloaded the 1Mobile market plus Good e-reader and Aptoide successfully. I found most (but not all of them) Google apps there but i noticed that you can't sign-in to them especially Youtube. Gmail is no big deal as i can check my mails on my phone or Mac. And there is no Google+ which is a shame. Unless i'm blind or its there now but last night i can't find it.
I dont' want to root my Kindle Fire HDX as im not familiar in the first place and i am very satisfied with just sideloading apps and going through third-party app stores. If there is another way to download the Google apps & services then ill buy the Fire HDX today.
So, apart from the ones i mentioned above is there another way(s) to look for .apk files of my favourite Google apps like Google+, Youtube, Maps, Translate, Drive, etc.? Please??
gino_76ph said:
My wife has the old Kindle Fire HD and i have downloaded the 1Mobile market plus Good e-reader and Aptoide successfully. I found most (but not all of them) Google apps there but i noticed that you can't sign-in to them especially Youtube. Gmail is no big deal as i can check my mails on my phone or Mac. And there is no Google+ which is a shame. Unless i'm blind or its there now but last night i can't find it.
I dont' want to root my Kindle Fire HDX as im not familiar in the first place and i am very satisfied with just sideloading apps and going through third-party app stores. If there is another way to download the Google apps & services then ill buy the Fire HDX today.
So, apart from the ones i mentioned above is there another way(s) to look for .apk files of my favourite Google apps like Google+, Youtube, Maps, Translate, Drive, etc.? Please??
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Try this http://androidcowboy.com/android-apk-files-download/
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I am not desperate but it would be awesome if one can install the Google Play store on a Kindle Fire without rooting.
ptrsnshane said:
Try this http://androidcowboy.com/android-apk-files-download/
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Any other app stores i can download?
Try blackmart alpha
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I prefer the Kindle app from the Play Store to the one installed by default on the Fire tablet, because a lot of my ebooks weren't bought from Amazon, and Amazon insists on classifying these as docs rather than books, which means I need to use the Docs app to read them. Whereas the Play Store Kindle app handles Docs and Books in the same app together.
I have a Fire HD 6 tablet, rooted and with Gapps. I'm thinking maybe I could use Titanium Backup to uninstall the stock Kindle app, and then install the one from the Play Store - will that work, or is the stock Kindle app too heavily integrated with FireOS to safely remove? I've disabled the stock launcher, so the integration with that shouldn't be an issue.
my father has a Fire 7 HD that I rooted for him changed the launcher to nova, installed playstore and froze any system updates. I think it's on a late version of gingerbread or thereabouts.
installing the regular kindle app doesn't work, it asks questions about being an authorised device etc. so is there a version of it old or modded that will work OK ?