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OK, I'll chime in. Just short of paying $1K for the new Note 8, I'd say the Z Ultra still holds its own.
Yup , Z ultra is my dailly driver for almost every thing , amazing battery and running KK, Aosp MM , lollipop , marshmellow and Noughat almost every thing , I bet it will run Oreo as well , coz of its powerful hardware ... if by any mean we will get the binaries and some devs who are still working on building .for this amazing machine..
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yup , z ultra is my dailly driver for almost every thing , amazing battery and running kk, aosp mm , lollipop , marshmellow and noughat almost every thing , i bet it will run oreo as well , coz of its powerful hardware ... If by any mean we will get the binaries and some devs who are still working on building .for this amazing machine..
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a b s o l u t e l y !!!
I can ask you a tip ...
I had this terminal just came out, but then I sold it, now I bought it back, and as soon as I got installed a number of roms, but in all the roms I tried the battery convinces me. I changed the battery, but I think but I do not think the situation is combiata.
What rom you use?
Anyone still using Sony ultra z in Nvember 2020? I got myself a Huawei mate pro30 - like its speed , camera and the fact I can install as many applications that I like without worrying for its storage space and memory. Yet scrolling Facebook just on it just made me missed my Sony ultra z - I miss the big screen and the Xperia Chinese keyboard which offers t9 English keyboard and ability to write Chinese on it. I bought Huawei mate30¤ pro as it's half its original retail price and the fact of it has 5G option makes it an easy ( but regrettable decision)...
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Anyone still using Sony ultra z in Nvember 2020? I got myself a Huawei mate pro30 - like its speed , camera and the fact I can install as many applications that I like without worrying for its storage space and memory. Yet scrolling Facebook just on it just made me missed my Sony ultra z - I miss the big screen and the Xperia Chinese keyboard which offers t9 English keyboard and ability to write Chinese on it. I bought Huawei mate30¤ pro as it's half its original retail price and the fact of it has 5G option makes it an easy ( but regrettable decision)...
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Yeah, still using it, for the same purpose I purchased it back in 2014. With OruxMaps it gives a great Bicyle GPS. It is easy & Cheap to repair (Battery, Screen, all easy to get) and I even bought a second one as backup. Latest Android 5 updates were supplied from this forum until end of last year - what more can you expect? Further Software updated would be great, but it will even continue to work without...
I am not sure what section to post this question in and I am not aware that this question has been answered.
Where to I find a list of recent phones or tablets suitable for Lineage OS? The LineageOS own site is a mix of really old phones with more recent ones and omits all non official ports.
The question is actually quite simple: suppose I want to buy a phone or a tablet today to install LineageOS. What are the options?
The requirements are:
-the device should not be too old (issued in 2017-2018), or I can't buy it new
-it should support Lineage 14 or 15
-Lineage should be installable on the current version, ideally without needing to register as a developper by the manufacturer.
The latter is more tricky than it seems. For example, the Samsung A5 is officially supported by LineageOS 14, but there is no LineageOS 15 rom available. Current versions come with Android 8.0 and cannot be downgraded to LineageOS 14. Besides, Samsung added extra security on their bootloader which makes installation a real pain.
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I am not sure what section to post this question in and I am not aware that this question has been answered.
Where to I find a list of recent phones or tablets suitable for Lineage OS? The LineageOS own site is a mix of really old phones with more recent ones and omits all non official ports.
The question is actually quite simple: suppose I want to buy a phone or a tablet today to install LineageOS. What are the options?
The requirements are:
-the device should not be too old (issued in 2017-2018), or I can't buy it new
-it should support Lineage 14 or 15
-Lineage should be installable on the current version, ideally without needing to register as a developper by the manufacturer.
The latter is more tricky than it seems. For example, the Samsung A5 is officially supported by LineageOS 14, but there is no LineageOS 15 rom available. Current versions come with Android 8.0 and cannot be downgraded to LineageOS 14. Besides, Samsung added extra security on their bootloader which makes installation a real pain.
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Why not just shortlist a few devices you like and then checking whether they have good dev support?
Samsung is the toughest to get a bug-free lineage os rom, so strike that
OnePlus has good dev support and some Xiaomi phones too
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Why not just shortlist a few devices you like and then checking whether they have good dev support?
Samsung is the toughest to get a bug-free lineage os rom, so strike that
OnePlus has good dev support and some Xiaomi phones too
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Thank you for your answer.
I did not consider OnePlus, because their phones are only available for a short period of time. When LineageOS is available, the phone is usually out of production. Xiaomi, I don't know about their phones.
Do you know if OnePlus and Xiaomi allow installation of alternatrive roms without requiring an unlock key from the manufacturer?
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Thank you for your answer.
I did not consider OnePlus, because their phones are only available for a short period of time. When LineageOS is available, the phone is usually out of production. Xiaomi, I don't know about their phones.
Do you know if OnePlus and Xiaomi allow installation of alternatrive roms without requiring an unlock key from the manufacturer?
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OnePlus doesn't require a key from the manufacturer. OnePlus 6 or 6t should be a good bet if you don't mind the notch . However, unlocking a Xiaomi bootloader may be time-consuming since you need a code and it can take time to get.
EDIT; You can't go wrong with a Google Pixel 2XL , all roms will work seamlessly
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OnePlus doesn't require a key from the manufacturer. OnePlus 6 or 6t should be a good bet if you don't mind the notch . However, unlocking a Xiaomi bootloader may be time-consuming since you need a code and it can take time to get.
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So, Xiaomi would be a second choice. I don't really want to have to beg the manufacturer for an unlock code.
I checked about the OnePlus 6 and 6T. No real development yet on 6T, since the phone is not publicly available (expected). LineageOS 15 does not appear to be maintained any more on the 6. Bummer.
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EDIT; You can't go wrong with a Google Pixel 2XL , all roms will work seamlessly
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I checked the Google Pixel 2 and 2 XL. There are difficulties with these phones because of encryption, but they can be solved. Lineage is a special build that comes with gapps pre-installed. I dont want gapps at all.
Thank you for your help, but I still don't have what I am looking for: a phone, reasonably recent so as to be available new, with a reasonably usable Lineage OS 15 installable without too much trouble.
I also asked about a tablet, but that seems even more difficult.
Hi All,
I'm an engineer looking to upgrade a product which uses an old Altel smartphone. I'm experienced in Unlocking and flashing. I have already done a search, but now in 2020, there may be new info.
Looking for suggestions for the best CHEAP android phone which has good custom ROM support for android 7+ (ish).
I need to use the back camera, and connect via wifi, bluetooth, or Cellular Data. It will be tested in the US, but may benefit from support for many globally common 3g and 4g bands.
One last thing. Would love to find something I can still buy a few dozen of NEW, or at least MFG REFURB.
Can anyone suggest suitable phones? So far, been considering late nexus line and early pixel line, knowing they're flash unlockable.
Thank you for reading! Apologies if I hit the wrong section of the forum.
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Hi All,
I'm an engineer looking to upgrade a product which uses an old Altel smartphone. I'm experienced in Unlocking and flashing. I have already done a search, but now in 2020, there may be new info.
Looking for suggestions for the best CHEAP android phone which has good custom ROM support for android 7+ (ish).
I need to use the back camera, and connect via wifi, bluetooth, or Cellular Data. It will be tested in the US, but may benefit from support for many globally common 3g and 4g bands.
One last thing. Would love to find something I can still buy a few dozen of NEW, or at least MFG REFURB.
Can anyone suggest suitable phones? So far, been considering late nexus line and early pixel line, knowing they're flash unlockable.
Thank you for reading! Apologies if I hit the wrong section of the forum.
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There are no *NEW* cheap phones that have custom ROM support unfortunately. But used phone are an option : ) If you want official ROM support (Even to this day!), you can get a Samsung Galaxy S4 for 50$, an S5, Note 3 (Android 9 - 10 support!).
If you want a used phone at 100-150$, you can get a A5 2017, Google Pixel 1, Nexus 6 (Don't buy the 6p)
If you want to get a Brand new phone: Moto G7 and G6 Plus (200-250$). (Theese phones have a more complicated process of modding)
You can check the Lineage OS download Page here: https://download.lineageos.org/ Theese are all of the supported devices.
If you don't want to have any difficulties, you can get a Samsung but be careful with the variants! Get the international or Canadian variant because if you get a US variant, there are no methods of unlocking the device (except for the S5 and less) You can also get the Google Pixel, but do not buy the US variant. Same for the nexus devices...
Your knowledge and help are much appreciated.
Can you offer advice on USB OTG Compatibility with various phones on Lineage? I've had mixed results in the past with stock ROMs.
alexenferman said:
There are no *NEW* cheap phones that have custom ROM support unfortunately. But used phone are an option : ) If you want official ROM support (Even to this day!), you can get a Samsung Galaxy S4 for 50$, an S5, Note 3 (Android 9 - 10 support!).
If you want a used phone at 100-150$, you can get a A5 2017, Google Pixel 1, Nexus 6 (Don't buy the 6p)
If you want to get a Brand new phone: Moto G7 and G6 Plus (200-250$). (Theese phones have a more complicated process of modding)
You can check the Lineage OS download Page here: https://download.lineageos.org/ Theese are all of the supported devices.
If you don't want to have any difficulties, you can get a Samsung but be careful with the variants! Get the international or Canadian variant because if you get a US variant, there are no methods of unlocking the device (except for the S5 and less) You can also get the Google Pixel, but do not buy the US variant. Same for the nexus devices...
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Your knowledge and help are much appreciated.
Can you offer advice on USB OTG Compatibility with various phones on Lineage? I've had mixed results in the past with stock ROMs.
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All of the phones I mentioned have OTG capability
Probably almost all phone supported by lineage have OTG. Don't worry about that.
bizzzle said:
Hi All,
I'm an engineer looking to upgrade a product which uses an old Altel smartphone. I'm experienced in Unlocking and flashing. I have already done a search, but now in 2020, there may be new info.
Looking for suggestions for the best CHEAP android phone which has good custom ROM support for android 7+ (ish).
I need to use the back camera, and connect via wifi, bluetooth, or Cellular Data. It will be tested in the US, but may benefit from support for many globally common 3g and 4g bands.
One last thing. Would love to find something I can still buy a few dozen of NEW, or at least MFG REFURB.
Can anyone suggest suitable phones? So far, been considering late nexus line and early pixel line, knowing they're flash unlockable.
Thank you for reading! Apologies if I hit the wrong section of the forum.
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I have 2 Samsung Galaxy S3 ( circa 2012 ) and while they are far from new, they are great phones to play around with.
I am far from experienced, but I have enjoyed flashing Custom ROM's , from CyanogenMod, thru various versions of Lineage, and now CrDroid. The newest O/S that I flashed is CrDroid 3.8.9 ( based on Android 7.1.2 - I think! ). Runs great. Stable. Long battery life. Ran ( 'right out of the box' ) without any need to install Gapps.
The nice thing is the Samsung Galaxy S3 is so darn abundant. Seems that everybody has one collecting dust in a drawer. And that means they are cheap ( as in give it away ). All the Samsung Galaxy S3 came with unlocked bootloader ( I think that is the term ) except for the Verizon model.
Icing on the cake is, a fellow from Montreal, alexenferman, is the genious authour of the CrDroid Custom ROM.
Hello, I still have my Mi Pad 2 (16GB) laying around and i've been thinking about replacing its battery and then install some sort of alternative OS such as Ubuntu, Chrome OS, Android x86 etc... I saw some topics here and on other websites but only a few people actually got those OS's working but didn't provide any instructions whatsoever.
Is someone still interested in this device? If so, any help and support would be appreciated.
Yes, I am still using it. I had already replaced the batteries once.
Trying to find a good custom ROM.
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Yes, I am still using it. I had already replaced the batteries once.
Trying to find a good custom ROM.
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Is it easy to replace the battery? I'm thinking about getting a new one. Btw, what ROM are you using at the moment?
Yes I am ，but i flash win10 2004 . and Improved heat dissipation，Now, the only issue is the shortened battery standby, but other than that I'm pretty happy with it!
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Yes I am ，but i flash win10 2004 . and Improved heat dissipation，Now, the only issue is the shortened battery standby, but other than that I'm pretty happy with it!
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I'm also willing to try Windows 10 2004, but a lightweight version because my Mi Pad 2 is the 16GB version. How did you install that on yours? With a USB dongle with USB stick and keyboard like a regular computer?
Also, how did you improve heat dissipation?
By the way, does anyone know if it's possible to desolder the eMMC and replace it with a high capacity one? Like 64 or 128GB?
I still use my Mi Pad 2, mainly for reading. But been looking into bringing up Android N to this tablet (there is at least one Intel Atom nougat kernel source available, which might come in handy) and also around 3-4 different tablets running Nougat on Intel Atom (so we can try to use those blobs). Bliss OS is an option as well (as per the guide(s) on this forum). One approach could be to assist the Bliss OS team in squashing the bugs for the Mi Pad 2. If you want to discuss this further, feel free to let me know.
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I still use my Mi Pad 2, mainly for reading. But been looking into bringing up Android N to this tablet (there is at least one Intel Atom nougat kernel source available, which might come in handy) and also around 3-4 different tablets running Nougat on Intel Atom (so we can try to use those blobs). Bliss OS is an option as well (as per the guide(s) on this forum). One approach could be to assist the Bliss OS team in squashing the bugs for the Mi Pad 2. If you want to discuss this further, feel free to let me know.
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I'm a bit "desperate" to have a good OS available for this device because otherwise it's basically a paper weight for me. Stock MIUI was always flawed and slow and in my case Windows is pretty limited since I only have 16 gigs. And yeah, I'm available to discuss this further, it would be a pleasure.
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I'm a bit "desperate" to have a good OS available for this device because otherwise it's basically a paper weight for me. Stock MIUI was always flawed and slow and in my case Windows is pretty limited since I only have 16 gigs. And yeah, I'm available to discuss this further, it would be a pleasure.
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Have you ever tried the AOSP rom (it's seems to be a developer rom from Xiaomi) for Mi Pad 2?
I'm currently using MIUI 9.6.2.0 Mod from LVware it's working fine.
The only Android N kernel source for Cherry Trail devices available is the Grandstream GXV3380 http://www.grandstream.com/support/resources/?title=GXV3380 (scroll down to GXV3380 GNU GPL). Grandstream writes its rom is Android 7 based, so the kernel source must be Nougat based (I only write this, because a Cherry Trail nougat source has never been released, so this is huge. I even think it is able to compile based on the archive contents). I only came by this by searching for Cherry Trail devices on Geekbench Browser. Would like to compare this kernel source to the Lollipop Mi Pad 2 one.
In terms of an Android Marshmallow Cherry Trail kernel source, I could only find the Panasonic Toughpad Android 6 (PANASONIC FZ-A2A): https://panasonic.net/cns/oss/tabletcomputer/FZB2D001.html .. It's worth mentioning that Amazon has made the Amazon Echo Show (2nd Gen) kernel source available as well (5.5.3.9-20200618.tar.bz2), but I think it's Lollipop based: https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?ie=UTF8&nodeId=201626480 (scroll down to Echo Show (2nd Generation). The Nougat kernel source might be released, as the latest software version available is 655636620 (https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=201602210) and according to Wiki the 6.x.x.x builds are Nougat based. I know it's confusing, you can read more about it here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire_OS#cite_note-4
In terms of blobs, there are plenty of devices to borrow from. Medion has 4 tablets that have been updated from Lollipop -> Marshmallow -> Nougat. The same with Getac, which has two models the MX50 and the ZX70. Lenovo has a few Cherry Trail devices as well upgraded to Nougat, which can be borrowed from.
Palm Trees said:
Have you ever tried the AOSP rom (it's seems to be a developer rom from Xiaomi) for Mi Pad 2?
I'm currently using MIUI 9.6.2.0 Mod from LVware it's working fine.
The only Android N kernel source for Cherry Trail devices available is the Grandstream GXV3380 http://www.grandstream.com/support/resources/?title=GXV3380 (scroll down to GXV3380 GNU GPL). Grandstream writes its rom is Android 7 based, so the kernel source must be Nougat based (I only write this, because a Cherry Trail nougat source has never been released, so this is huge. I even think it is able to compile based on the archive contents). I only came by this by searching for Cherry Trail devices on Geekbench Browser. Would like to compare this kernel source to the Lollipop Mi Pad 2 one.
In terms of an Android Marshmallow Cherry Trail kernel source, I could only find the Panasonic Toughpad Android 6 (PANASONIC FZ-A2A): https://panasonic.net/cns/oss/tabletcomputer/FZB2D001.html .. It's worth mentioning that Amazon has made the Amazon Echo Show (2nd Gen) kernel source available as well (5.5.3.9-20200618.tar.bz2), but I think it's Lollipop based: https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?ie=UTF8&nodeId=201626480 (scroll down to Echo Show (2nd Generation). The Nougat kernel source might be released, as the latest software version available is 655636620 (https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=201602210) and according to Wiki the 6.x.x.x builds are Nougat based. I know it's confusing, you can read more about it here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire_OS#cite_note-4
In terms of blobs, there are plenty of devices to borrow from. Medion has 4 tablets that have been updated from Lollipop -> Marshmallow -> Nougat. The same with Getac, which has two models the MX50 and the ZX70. Lenovo has a few Cherry Trail devices as well upgraded to Nougat, which can be borrowed from.
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Yep, I've tried the AOSP ROM but it gets really slow after a bit. It's almost impossible to multitask because it can't handle more than 2 apps. Never heard about that MIUI ROM though, do you have a link for it? is it good?
About the sources i'll be completely honest. I have limited expertise on this subject but seeing all that makes me think that it's not that impossible to make a good ROM for our device (am i wrong?), so what's limiting us? People with knowledge? More sources? What's the next step?
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does the touch keyboard move content up now?
hi my mipad 2 get error bootloader 03, and have option to press vol up to boot normal. after that, the mipad always turn off like drain battery but when I plug the charger is already full. can any one help me? thanks
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holy ****ing **** I know exactly what you mean. windows 8 does it. windows 8 is great.
i've been messing with 8 on it, and it's literally orgasmicly good. 10 is still my main OS because some drivers are missing, but the whole of it works really well.
oh, and using gibson's inspectre.exe to disable spectre and meltdown protections was THE thing to finally get the performance that seemingly disappeared. thats because it did disappear! also seems to help with RAM usage enormously
and I cut the plastic insulator between the motherboard and the rear case. filled in the gap with a thermal pad pretty much right on the CPU. 2.24 GHz base clocks now baby!
and this CPU is around a 7W TDP for anyone wondering. intel says 2W SDP, I say 4W SDP is probably closer to reality. 2W is at the base 1.44 GHz tho, but mine is at 2.24 GHz all the time.
I still have my 2GB RAM 16GB internal MiPad2 and working with shortened battery life and some limited app functionality (G.Play doesn't work/update for eg).
I want to use it primarily as a book/manga reader as well as a media player of sorts.
I saw the recommended custom ROMs list here but any advice on which is ideal for this device based on its limited hardware?
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I still have my 2GB RAM 16GB internal MiPad2 and working with shortened battery life and some limited app functionality (G.Play doesn't work/update for eg).
I want to use it primarily as a book/manga reader as well as a media player of sorts.
I saw the recommended custom ROMs list here but any advice on which is ideal for this device based on its limited hardware?
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i installed a light version of windows 10 on mine and it works surprising well. I have around 8gb to play with
That's cool! Performance is ok?
So would app installation then be via the Microsoft Store or can you still install via Google Play?
Are the instructions for the Windows 10 Lite flashing detailed somewhere on this forum?
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i installed a light version of windows 10 on mine and it works surprising well. I have around 8gb to play with
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Hello,
can you really install Windows 10 on Mipad 2 2 / 16Gb based on Android?
I have a Mipad 2 2/64 based on Android, and I want to replace it with Windows 10, would you like to share the method with me?
I still use this little tablet as a second screen/device playing video's on the desk when im working on my laptop. The screen is still really nice: bright and crisp. Mine has Windows 10 installed which is barely useable, usually everything feels kinda slow, but it does work. The biggest problem was that it thermal throtteled after normal use, so what helps is if you do a cooling mod. It's not that hard, I cut a square out of the shroud thats covering the CPU and placed a thick thermal pad over the CPU so it touches the outer metal housing. This greatly improved CPU/GPU performance and solved the thermal issue. The housing doesn't even get that hot when you stress the tablet. It now plays video's no problem all day long, where it would stutter after while without the mod...
Don't expect any miracles though, it's still an Atom with a slow eMMC drive and only 2GB of RAM. Windows is just too heavy for it sometimes. A newer version of Android would probably be a better fit. What also helps is if you debloat Windows a little: https://github.com/W4RH4WK/Debloat-Windows-10
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That's cool! Performance is ok?
So would app installation then be via the Microsoft Store or can you still install via Google Play?
Are the instructions for the Windows 10 Lite flashing detailed somewhere on this forum?
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Performance is fine i guess. I think it gave a new life to my Mi Pad 2 even though i haven't been using it lately. App instalation is via Microsoft Store of course, or via .exe installers just like a PC.
I'm wondering if it will be possible to install Windows 10X on it. That would be very cool.
As for the instructions, i used an old tutorial from the Xiaomi forums to change from Android to Windows and then I installed that Windows 10 lite from Ghostspectre using a USB stick just like a regular PC
Amin_foam said:
Hello,
can you really install Windows 10 on Mipad 2 2 / 16Gb based on Android?
I have a Mipad 2 2/64 based on Android, and I want to replace it with Windows 10, would you like to share the method with me?
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That's right, my 2/16 Mi Pad 2 is running Windows 10.
I found the link for the tutorial. Sadly it's offline, but Wayback Machine can open it just fine, except the pictures. Surprisingly, the download link is still online too but it's pretty big (7 gigs).
If anyone needs that, i can send the two links through PM
Just thinking about buying the gt2 pro but currently using the F3 with a huge development support. Will be there in the future, this phone had a custom aosp roms?
google experience is working
This is also a huge question for me. I'm stuck on a S21+ now which, being a Samsung, obviously has no development. I want a phone that will actually have some custom ROMs like the OnePlus 10 Pro probably will. However, the GT2 Pro is just a cheaper OP10P with a much prettier design so yeah.. I hope and pray the GT2 Pro gets custom ROM's and some dedicated devs.
You'd better forget that. It's Realme, not Oneplus. I'm interested in this phone too but this company is not doing right. And as Realme, OnePlus and Oppo are all the same, I fear the worst for the future.
You can't unlock bootloader, only chinese version
Any company, even RealMe can be persuaded by public opinion if there is enough.
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You can't unlock bootloader, only chinese version
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Linuxkek said:
You can't unlock bootloader, only chinese version
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Bootloader is unlockable for all versions now. I think it's just a matter of time until we get an AOSP rom.
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Bootloader is unlockable for all versions now. I think it's just a matter of time until we get an AOSP rom.
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I need to pay about 700 bucks for that device now, from 619€ and 639€ with watch and tablet. Strange but now I will wait for next gen
9 months later and still no custom roms?
napo6282 said:
9 miesięcy później i nadal nie ma custom romów?
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Dokładnie
Now that the device is about 350€ we might get some love... Also bootloader can be opened...
ColorOS is not bad at all but lacks A LOT of optimization and bug fixes...