I was traveling for work today and saw 5G signal. Wanted to see how fast it was, and was a bit surprised. Left me wondering what's so good about it?
Screenshots are of LTE and 5G speed tests.
Lower latency, faster speeds, better spectrum efficiency. It will get faster once the Sprint 5G is added in after the merger.
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Lower latency, faster speeds, better spectrum efficiency. It will get faster once the Sprint 5G is added in after the merger.
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Interesting. Didn't see any of those benefits.
Benefits? Live faster, die younger. Like anyone asked for it
5G with T-Mobile is taking the opposite approach as Verizon/AT&T. Instead of trying to get INSANE speeds with very short range, they're building a network that has better than LTE speeds with much further range (higher frequencies=lower range, higher speeds, lower frequencies=lower speeds, higher range). Currently, it's not well-optimized since it's pretty new, but will improve within the next year.
Current 5G networks on T-Mobile are exclusive to 5G phones, making existing 5G networks so much less crowded. So while speeds may fluctuate, you're not having to share that network with anyone else basically, and you'll see better speeds in certain rural areas.
In Western VA, where coverage had been historically terrible, I was getting about 80mbs in places where my Pixel 3a XL was barely hitting 2mbs if I was lucky. It all depends on where you live right now.
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I was traveling for work today and saw 5G signal. Wanted to see how fast it was, and was a bit surprised. Left me wondering what's so good about it?
Screenshots are of LTE and 5G speed tests.
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I was getting over 100 in Saint Paul so not terrible.
Currently on the consumer side there are much more negatives than benefits. Higher power consumption, lower coverage, short ranges, higher cost. Otherwise on the consumer side, the benefits of 5G are much higher speeds (although this will drop drastically from the theoritical and current speeds once it gets wide adoption -- just as 4G) and lower latency.
5G is currently mainly still a push on the enterprise side. It allows them to direct the waves of the signal towards the users/devices and in turn provide a better connection. Another huge benefit is being able to connect much more devices at once. In a few years with smart home appliances, and self-driving cars with TVs in them they will be ready to sell you the streaming/bandwidth services you'll want for entertaiment in those devices.
If you never though "gee my 4G is pretty slow, I wish it was faster" (I personally never have), there is no need to get 5G.
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5G with T-Mobile is taking the opposite approach as Verizon/AT&T. Instead of trying to get INSANE speeds with very short range, they're building a network that has better than LTE speeds with much further range (higher frequencies=lower range, higher speeds, lower frequencies=lower speeds, higher range). Currently, it's not well-optimized since it's pretty new, but will improve within the next year.
Current 5G networks on T-Mobile are exclusive to 5G phones, making existing 5G networks so much less crowded. So while speeds may fluctuate, you're not having to share that network with anyone else basically, and you'll see better speeds in certain rural areas.
In Western VA, where coverage had been historically terrible, I was getting about 80mbs in places where my Pixel 3a XL was barely hitting 2mbs if I was lucky. It all depends on where you live right now.
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What you're saying is not possible, research how the 5G technology works and you'll see what I mean. By nature, 5G has much higher bandwidth but much shorter range than 4G. Just the same as 5Ghz vs 2.4Ghz in routers. There is nothing T-Mobile or anyone else can do to change this, as it's the physics of the wave-lenght itself. 5G gets stopped by walls and other obstructions very easily.
What service providers are doing (and the only thing they can do with this techonology) is placing a boat-load of antennaes everywhere. And I mean tens if not hundreds times more antenaes than 4G (but much, much smaller ones). As such, it's not a strech to say that for 5G to be adopted outside of populated cities will take a while. Rural areas might never see 5G.
PS: Not sure what counts as "rural" areas in the USA. I assume most roads and especially big ones, even if the area is considered "rural" will be covered. By rural I mean small villages, woods, mountains etc.
The McLaren on T-Mobile uses low band 5G on the 600MHz band. Low spectrum means greater building penetration and long range (T-Mobile claims up to 2 mile range on low band). There's also extremely high band mmWave 5G, which the McLaren doesn't have. mmWave is the type that's super fast (like gigabit speeds) but has exceptionally short range.
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The McLaren on T-Mobile uses low band 5G on the 600MHz band. Low spectrum means greater building penetration and long range (T-Mobile claims up to 2 mile range on low band). There's also extremely high band mmWave 5G, which the McLaren doesn't have. mmWave is the type that's super fast (like gigabit speeds) but has exceptionally short range.
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Oh, I see. It does make a ton of sense to implement a lower spectrum in less densely populated areas. Nonetheless, the 2 mile range is still far off from 4G range capabilities.
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Currently on the consumer side there are much more negatives than benefits. Higher power consumption, lower coverage, short ranges, higher cost. Otherwise on the consumer side, the benefits of 5G are much higher speeds (although this will drop drastically from the theoritical and current speeds once it gets wide adoption -- just as 4G) and lower latency.
5G is currently mainly still a push on the enterprise side. It allows them to direct the waves of the signal towards the users/devices and in turn provide a better connection. Another huge benefit is being able to connect much more devices at once. In a few years with smart home appliances, and self-driving cars with TVs in them they will be ready to sell you the streaming/bandwidth services you'll want for entertaiment in those devices.
If you never though "gee my 4G is pretty slow, I wish it was faster" (I personally never have), there is no need to get 5G.
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What you're saying is not possible, research how the 5G technology works and you'll see what I mean. By nature, 5G has much higher bandwidth but much shorter range than 4G. Just the same as 5Ghz vs 2.4Ghz in routers. There is nothing T-Mobile or anyone else can do to change this, as it's the physics of the wave-lenght itself. 5G gets stopped by walls and other obstructions very easily.
What service providers are doing (and the only thing they can do with this techonology) is placing a boat-load of antennaes everywhere. And I mean tens if not hundreds times more antenaes than 4G (but much, much smaller ones). As such, it's not a strech to say that for 5G to be adopted outside of populated cities will take a while. Rural areas might never see 5G.
PS: Not sure what counts as "rural" areas in the USA. I assume most roads and especially big ones, even if the area is considered "rural" will be covered. By rural I mean small villages, woods, mountains etc.
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It absolutely is possible. 5G doesn't simply operate on one wavelngth, rather, it refers to the tehcnology that's utlized to deliver more effecient bandwith. Like 4G LTE, there are different wavelenths with different speeds/distances. T-Mobile is running their 5G network on their 600MHz frequency currently which has much slower speeds than gigabit, but still decent ones that tend to perform about as well as a strong LTE signal. In fact, T-Mobile has been putting much focus on certain rural areas starting off, taking the opposite approach as AT&T and Verizon with their mmwave 5G.
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So we now know that the S4 will be "futureproof" as far as AWS is concerned with Big Red. The question is that when they start OTAing the AWS upgrade to our phones, how long would it likely be before that has a stable release for the top ROMs? Or will the devs be able to mine the AWS info, and have it ready beforehand?
I think this will go the same route as LTE did. Crazy fast at first when hardly anyone can use it then slow down to about what you get now in congested areas. In other words, this is more about capacity than speed (not that the two are not intertwined...a faster network is a higher capacity network if there is a method to share bandwidth). They will market it as a speed increase (LTE Advance), because under some circumstances it will give you a higher bitrate. In more crowded conditions the speed will be lower, but not as low as it would have been without the extra spectrum. Either way its better.
Hopefully we will be able to loki in the upgrade.
Pretty awesome, if true:
http://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-galaxy-note-7-4x4-mimo-709040/
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Just came here to open a thread about this. What I don't get is all the news sources say that it's found only in the Snapdragon variant but if you look at Samsung's spec sheet for the global variant it also includes MIMO.
Look here under connectivity: http://www.samsung.com/global/galaxy/galaxy-note7/
Ah I see that my reddit post is reaching the larger audience! Check out the original post for a lot more info and ELI5: https://www.reddit.com/r/tmobile/comments/4wtsdy/galaxy_note_7_the_first_4x4_mimo_capable/
But I will also try to explain the benefits here.
- Up until now, all LTE smartphones had 2 Receive antennas in order to match the amount of Transmit antennas at the cell site, which sends up to two independent "spatial streams" in each transmission. In other words, when your signal is good, your phone is able to receive and demodulate both of those streams which provides faster download speeds.
- Over the past several years, T-Mobile begun equipping their LTE cell sites with 4 Transmit (and receive) antennas, which added additional diversity. Think of it as an additional set of "ears" at the cell site, able to "hear" your phone better since our phones transmit power is many times lower than Tx power at the cell site.
- Even though T-Mobile still sends out two spatial streams from the cell site, additional diversity allows operators to transmit data more efficiently, and essentially prepared operators like T-Mobile for the next step, 4x4 MIMO. This also helps with things like VoLTE, as the added antenna diversity improves overall signal resilience.
- In the meantime, there's been an ongoing struggle for OEMs to figure out how to implement 4 LTE Receive antennas in such a small smartphone form factor, and achieve acceptable antenna separation and isolation, and mitigate the interference. At the same time, in order to achieve the highest efficiency gain, signals that are coming into such a small device have to be uncorrelated, leveraging fading and multipath. I won't dive into that today.
- So adding 4 Receive antennas in the smartphone, just like T-Mobile has done at the cell sites, Samsung is effectively adding a set of "ears" and creating that same diversity on the user's end, which benefits not only users, but also operators as they're now delivering data more efficiently, especially to devices that happened to be in poor signal conditions.
- The best part happens when both the operator has 4 Transmit and the smartphone has the matching 4 Receive antennas. When that happens an operator can roll out 4x4 MIMO (Multiple Input Multiple Output) LTE feature, which effectively doubles download speeds, assuming good signal conditions, on top of improved resiliency when in sub-optimal signal conditions.
- So in T-Mobile's or Verizon's case, they typically have 20MHz Band 4 spectrum deployed for their LTE. In the existing 2x2 MIMO use case that yields up to 150Mbps peak downlink data rates, in good signal conditions.
But once they activate 4x4 MIMO, speeds double up to 300Mbps out of the same 20MHz Band spectrum, without operators deploying additional spectrum resources.
- Even in less the optimal signal conditions, in places where you'd see 5Mbps speeds, we should be able to see improved speeds because our phones now have more antennas and are able to maintain that connectivity with the cell site.
It's easy to see that we end up winning on multiple levels now that 4Rx antenna implementation in a smartphone became a reality. I plan on reviewing LTE Performance in Note 7 and other smartphones on my site http://cellularinsights.com so keep an eye on it if interested in this kind of tuff.
What does this mean for sprint users?
milan03, Snapdragon 820 LTE modem is known to support 4x4 MIMO and kudos for Samsung implementing 4 receive antennas in Note7 if it turns out to be true.
But what about the samsungs own integrated modem in Exynos 8890? I have not seen any specs about 4x4 Mimo support about it. International S7/S7 edge already include that modem. So has the existing samsung modem support for 4x4 or has has samsung upgraded their modem in Note7?
iFixit teardown https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Samsung+Galaxy+Note7+Teardown/66389
We know how much you like to stream, ahem, "videos", and so cellular data is mega-important. Rate this thread to express how you think the Huawei Mate 9's LTE performs. A higher rating indicates that it's fantastic: throughput is excellent and signal strength is top-notch.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add.
Getting slow speeds on T-Mobile. The area where I live has great 4glte coverage that my other devices pick up easily. Just got my mate 9 today and hoping the speed improves over the next couple of days so that I don't have to return this otherwise awesome phone. Anyone have similar problems or know a fix?
I'm on T-mobile and I feel like I get better much reception/performance than I did with My Note 3. But my Note 3 was an AT&T version which didn't support Band 12, so being able to take advantage of Band 12 now may be part of the improvement.
I drive through a tunnel everyday and used to lose the call 100℅ of the time on the Nexus 6P. Not on the Mate 9. Tmobile carrier.
My old phone had 2/5 bars 4G inside my house, mate 9 has 4-5/5 bars 4G+ and speed is generally very good, the network connection is very stable even when signal is low.
On AT&T. Consistently gets 4-6 dbm better on LTE than my ATT Note 5. I maintain usable LTE reception in many areas the note 5 cannot. The note 5 already outclassed many other phones in RF signal strength -- the mate 9 is a stellar performer in this regard.
EDIT: 4-8dbm better than OnePlus 3T, 4-5 better than LG G5. Also on ATT.
On T-Mobile I'm getting an average of 4-5 dbm's better than any other phone. It seems like Huawei is the new king of radios. That's one of the reasons I ended up keeping my Mate 9. I am getting service in spots (for example the pro shop in my bowling alley) where I never even had any service before.
I get very fast speeds on sim 1, I can download, stream, whatever.
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On T-Mobile I'm getting an average of 4-5 dbm's better than any other phone. It seems like Huawei is the new king of radios. That's one of the reasons I ended up keeping my Mate 9. I am getting service in spots (for example the pro shop in my bowling alley) where I never even had any service before.
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you said tmobile, does that mean it would work on metro pcs
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you said tmobile, does that mean it would work on metro pcs
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it works great on Metropcs. I get full LTE in Dallas/Fort Worth area.
My US model (XQBC62) is has having trouble with 5G on T-Mobile. 5G connects only intermittently in NSA mode.
Sony support says:
I'm asking you this because at this moment Verizon is currently the only U.S. carrier that supports 5G on the Xperia PRO model. The 5G network service is not currently available in the Xperia 1 III model and this is why you're getting that issue. In this particular case we recommend you to check with your phone carrier if there is a way for them either to provide a different network service or if there is a work around on their system for you to use your Xperia phone with their service
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The Xperia 1 III phone does support 5G however at this moment the only phone carrier that provides 5G service on the Xperia phones in the USA is Verizon and at this moment they only support it on the Xperia Pro model. The phone carriers still working on providing the 5G service on all phone models they support and that depends on their coverage. I would like to give you a different solution however the phone service is covered by the phone's carrier and the best option you have is to contact T Mobile directly so they can further assist you with this issue
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I would like to give you a different answer Kevin but at this moment the phone carriers don't support 5G service on the Xperia 1 III model and this function will be available through future updates by the phone carriers.
5G isn't all that great yet, maybe never.
More limited range and more obstacle intolerant than 4G. Average users see a 20% speed increase when in range.
Don't sweat it...
T-Mobile has 5G on the 600 MHz Band 71 so their 5G coverage is literally better than their LTE coverage where there's high signal attenuation (trees, mountains, stucco buildings).
It's disappointing to go from an LG Velvet 5G to an Xperia 1 III and start losing signal everywhere.
Does turning Airplane mode on/off get it to reacquire the 4G signal?
May be a firmware issue meaning the phone doesn't react to the signal conditions appropriately.
Maybe disabling 5G if it's possible would yield better results.
I just got a new 4G N10+ in part because of issues like this.
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Does turning Airplane mode on/off get it to reacquire the 4G signal?
May be a firmware issue meaning the phone doesn't react to the signal conditions appropriately.
Maybe disabling 5G if it's possible would yield better results.
I just got a new 4G N10+ in part because of issues like this.
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Like I said, coverage and performance is better if it can do SA 5G.
Releasing a NSA 5G phone was forgivable a year ago, but TODAY? It's probably sucking more power by constantly switching between LTE and LTE+NR constantly rather than just using NR all the time like other phones.
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Like I said, coverage and performance is better if it can do SA 5G.
Releasing a NSA 5G phone was forgivable a year ago, but TODAY? It's probably sucking more power by constantly switching between LTE and LTE+NR constantly rather than just using NR all the time like other phones.
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Pretty much why I decided to avoid this hornet's nest.
Have you tried switching NSA and SA to use SA only?
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Have you tried switching NSA and SA to use SA only?
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That was the first thing I tried after I noticed loss of connectivity without LTE. SA mode disables 5G. I even tried powering it off for a while then powering it back on. Only NSA + SA and NSA work.
I have 5G coverage in Europe (italy) on Xperia 1 III, but it's limited to some cities (not operator) then i switched to 4G only mode.
here operator have NO phone limited 5G, you only need to have coverage
Excuse my 5G ignorance but...I use T-Mobile here in the US. I have 5G all day long if I want it. I rarely use it though because even though speed tests show that 5G is faster than LTE it also uses more battery. Also, there are times that while using 5G web pages load slower and YouTube videos buffer whereas when using LTE I have none of those issues. So while I agree that 5G is more gimmick than anything (for me) I still can connect to 5G without any issues at all so I am not sure what to think about the so-called Sony support answers????
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Excuse my 5G ignorance but...I use T-Mobile here in the US. I have 5G all day long if I want it. I rarely use it though because even though speed tests show that 5G is faster than LTE it also uses more battery. Also, there are times that while using 5G web pages load slower and YouTube videos buffer whereas when using LTE I have none of those issues. So while I agree that 5G is more gimmick than anything (for me) I still can connect to 5G without any issues at all so I am not sure what to think about the so-called Sony support answers????
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There are two types of 5G.
Early phones had "non standalone" meaning that NR was only a temporary booster. The phone shows "5G" all the time but it's only momentarily connecting and disconnecting NR while keeping LTE on. These phones don't know how to use NR by itself or for phone calls. This sucks battery life and it causes stalls in data transfer.
Modern phones have "standalone" 5G. This means that the phone can use any mix of NR and LTE together all the time, including only NR. There's no switching and the phone can use whatever works best.
My T-Mo Velvet 5G got a huge performance boost in cell data when it received the SA update. Lag and dropouts around town were 100% gone . When walking around town, it's on LTE 2 + LTE 66 + NR 71. It can lose any two of those bands and be fine. It beats any LTE phone in stability. (RF absorbing stucco houses around here)
My new Sony has a MUCH faster CPU but it's a step back in cell performance. It's using LTE 2 or 66 (not both) and switching NR 71 on and off for data transfer. I frequently take it out of my pocket and see that it has no cell reception. Signal Check says it has NR 71 and is trying to connect to LTE.
I'm hoping a software update eventually fixes this. Much like the fingerprint reader crashes, this is a shameful launch for Sony.
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There are two types of 5G.
Early phones had "non standalone" meaning that NR was only a temporary booster. The phone shows "5G" all the time but it's only momentarily connecting and disconnecting NR while keeping LTE on. These phones don't know how to use NR by itself or for phone calls. This sucks battery life and it causes stalls in data transfer.
Modern phones have "standalone" 5G. This means that the phone can use any mix of NR and LTE together all the time, including only NR. There's no switching and the phone can use whatever works best.
My T-Mo Velvet 5G got a huge performance boost in cell data when it received the SA update. Lag and dropouts around town were 100% gone . When walking around town, it's on LTE 2 + LTE 66 + NR 71. It can lose any two of those bands and be fine. It beats any LTE phone in stability. (RF absorbing stucco houses around here)
My new Sony has a MUCH faster CPU but it's a step back in cell performance. It's using LTE 2 or 66 (not both) and switching NR 71 on and off for data transfer. I frequently take it out of my pocket and see that it has no cell reception. Signal Check says it has NR 71 and is trying to connect to LTE.
I'm hoping a software update eventually fixes this. Much like the fingerprint reader crashes, this is a shameful launch for Sony.
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Well, assuming you know what you're talking about I appreciate your explanation of why I have stalls in data transfer and high battery use on 5G. Hopefully a software fix is possible and on Sony's radar. I have not experienced any fingerprint crashes nor have I heard anything about that. My fingerprint reader works great all the time. Anyway, thanks for the explanation!
Don't feel bad about "shameful" Sony launches.
Even Pixel's are dropping the ball as well as all the major brands. Too much, too fast...
Android 11 is the worst dropped ball of them all and that comes right from the top leaving the manufacturers with a mess they can't completely rectify. 2021 was a bad year for Androids. Google could have prevented much of this... Android, so secure it's unusable.
FWIW, the Pixel 6 seems to be swilling battery on 5G so most people are just disabling it. 5G was my original reservation on the 1 III, but now it seems less relevant so I'm considering returning my pixel and trying the sony.
Can anyone confirm that 5G radio can be shut down to save battery on the Sony? I'm pretty sure I'm reading that it can be, but want to be sure before I order. If it matters, I'll be on AT&T in the US.
Yes you can choose to NOT use 5G on this phone. I have turned it on/off several times and while speed tests show 5G as faster than LTE ... it uses more battery, and YouTube videos will buffer and web pages load more slowly??? Whereas on LTE none of those issues appear. So for now, at least on the 1 mark 3 - 5G is useless. Sad really but for me LTE runs everything just fine and fast!
Yes, well is any carrier on top of this?
Verizon's 5G rollout is going really... horrible.
T-mobile made this bold offer to boned AT&T and Verizon 5G users.
Anyone else contacted Sony about this? I posted a question here.
If this information is up-to-date, Sony disabled NR SA on all the bands used by T-Mobile.
Sony Xperia 1 III (US) (XQ-BC62) | 4G/5G Bands & Combos
4G & 5G Bands, Carrier Aggregation and Dual Connectivity Combinations for Sony Xperia 1 III (US) (XQ-BC62)
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This is weird because only T-Mobile has good NR SA coverage in the US.
I've tried to get customer service to forward this bug to engineering, but I don't think it happened (at least they provided no way for me to track it). And community support link I provided earlier just doing the typical finger pointing to blame the career.
I did a 5G comparison to a T-Mo LG Velvet 5G that does support SA 5G. The Velvet 5G has 10x the download performance but the Xperia 1 III has 10x the upload performance. When walking, the Velvet 5G produces a stable signal from carrier aggregation while the Xperial 1 III drops and reconnects frequently.
hi can anyone tell me if the radio in the pixel 6 is stronger than pixel 5? I'm using the unlock version for tmobile. Pixel 5 is ok but would like to know if pixel 6 is better and if the mmwave from pixel 6 pro is worth it.
(UK based) I've not noticed on 4G the signal showing any better than my Pixel 2 XL, but at a place it would show a low signal my Pixel 2 XL was impossible to use for web browsing, but the Pixel 6, whilst showing the same low signal was useable, not great, but did manage to bring up some web pages, so was able to work better with the rubbish reception.
As for mmWave and is it worth it I will let others answer that question as in the UK its as rare as hens teeth. I think it seems to have only been invented so they could market super fast headline speeds for 5G, and apart from that, has little practical benefit.
I have a Pixel 5a still and from my two days driving around I can say that the 5a has better 5G reception than the P6 so far. No mmwave on my P6 - I didn't want to shell out the extra $100 for ATT variant.
(US on ATT).
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I have a Pixel 5a still and from my two days driving around I can say that the 5a has better 5G reception than the P6 so far. No mmwave on my P6 - I didn't want to shell out the extra $100 for ATT variant.
(US on ATT).
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damn well that sucks
I noticed (two days side by side usage) Pixel 6 reception far more spotty then iphone 12 Max Pro. US Northeast, Verizon Wireless. Both phone used concurrently. iPhone rock solid compared to Pixel. Even my old Pixel 4a is better than Pixcel 6.
YMMV.
I would not go by the signal strength icon right now on the P6. It needs to be tweeked with a software update to read more accurately.
The P5 had the same exact issue last year when it was released.
I don't really see any difference between the pixel 5 and 6 reception. They both are not great. I was hoping 5he January update would improve it some but it just fixed the complete disaster that was December update.
As far as mmwave it is not worth it. The reception on mmwave is so poor and it would cost so much money to deploy. Right now I think it is really only in sports stadiums and malls places where there's alot of people in a small area and also in areas where there is no Verizon FiOS access. Eventually it will grow but I think it's going to be years before it's good enough. They basically have to have a cell tower on every corner and that will take years. And sub 6 5g is basically LTE++
For me signal strength on pixel 6 in LTE networks (no 5G for my country) is same as on my colleagues' phones which at work is around -75 dBm. At my home signal is weaker at around -100 dBm but i stay connected to LTE and don't see any missed calls or inability to use internet. Unfortunately i have not measured signal at home with my old phone (oneplus 7) for comparison.
After all modem in Tensor chip is same as in the exynos chipset used in samsung galaxy s20 series. Sure newest qualcomm is better as well as the exynos in the s21 series but our modem should be pretty good when google learn how to adapt their software to it.
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I don't really see any difference between the pixel 5 and 6 reception. They both are not great. I was hoping 5he January update would improve it some but it just fixed the complete disaster that was December update.
As far as mmwave it is not worth it. The reception on mmwave is so poor and it would cost so much money to deploy. Right now I think it is really only in sports stadiums and malls places where there's alot of people in a small area and also in areas where there is no Verizon FiOS access. Eventually it will grow but I think it's going to be years before it's good enough. They basically have to have a cell tower on every corner and that will take years. And sub 6 5g is basically LTE++
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Verizon and AT&T are supposed to go live with C band today (unless you live near an airport). From what I have read, this seems like the only real benefit of 5G. It is supposed to fall between Sub-6 and mm wave for speed and range.
Does anyone know how to tell if I connected to it?
Whether due to the Jan update or the fact that I disabled 2G on my phone, the signal on my P6 improved significantly. I've never been able to get 5G at my home and now get mid to full signal.
Happy user...
derausgewanderte said:
Whether due to the Jan update or the fact that I disabled 2G on my phone, the signal on my P6 improved significantly. I've never been able to get 5G at my home and now get mid to full signal.
Happy user...
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Are you a Verizon or AT&T customer by any chance? The were supposed to enable C Band yesterday.
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Are you a Verizon or AT&T customer by any chance? The were supposed to enable C Band yesterday.
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oops, thought it's in my sig. ATT -US
What are your speeds now? I haven't noticed any great leaps in my area, also AT&T
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What are your speeds now? I haven't noticed any great leaps in my area, also AT&T
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I figured out why my speeds didn't increase. It's a very limited roll out
AT&T 5G+ gets a boost with C-Band in several US cities and on 17 phones
AT&T is jumping straight into C-Band 5G with coverage in eight metro areas and support for the network ready on several of its 5G phones.
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I'm on TMobile P6, practically sitting on a tower, right off a major expressway, suburban, about 5 miles from major airport. Using Network Cell app, Playstore, I'm getting 5G about ⅔ of the time, average download speed, 300 Gbps. I'm using Speed Check & FCC for those tests though. The beta speed test in Network Cell is not quite ready for primetime. The rest of the app, is well developed, and been around for many years. Best speed from my previous device, LG V40 thin Q was 4G+ around average 150 mbps download. Signal strength around -92 to -102 for the P6, the LG was around -110.