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Is it possible to run Linux on low-end android phones?
Possibly a method that does not need loop device support.
I'm talking about 600Mhz processor and 256mb RAM
And Damn Small Linux as the linux distro.
Is there any method to do this? I have seen methods for Ubuntu and backtrack but they require better hardware.
Thanks
Have you tried the Ubuntu Installer from market? Give it a try, you may be surprised.
MoPhoACTV Initiative
Ubuntu Installer says,
Kernel with Loop device support REQUIRED!! and
1GHZ processor (recommended)
which I am pretty sure i do not have. And kernel source is not available.
So, including support is out of the question.
Anyway, thanks for your reply
Well, attempt the download?
I'm curious if the Remix O.S. can be used with a Raspberry Pi 3 which came out recently
( https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/raspberry-pi-3-on-sale/ )
I understand that the Remix Os is compatible with x86 chipsets (i.e. 32-bit chipsets)
And the Raspberry Pi 3 uses a 1.2GHz 64-bit quad-core ARM Cortex-A53 CPU
however, even though the Pi 3 is 64-bit and the Remix Os is 32-bit, that doesn't mean it can't be installed, does it?
the website I mentioned above has a section that says "At launch, we are using the same 32-bit Raspbian userland that we use on other Raspberry Pi devices; over the next few months we will investigate whether there is value in moving to 64-bit mode."
so apparently a 32bit O.S. can be installed, even though the Raspberry Pi is a 64-bit chipset.
So i suppose my question is, has anybody come up with a way to see if this is possible or has anyone done it yet?
Any 64 bit processor is going to be able to run a 32 bit operating system. The only thing about that is that the OS may not take full advantage of what the processor is capable of. Check the RemixOS website for information regarding 64 bit support.
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It appears that RemixOS offers a 64 operating system. Getting it on the Rasberry Pi should be as easy as pie.
slickromeo said:
I'm curious if the Remix O.S. can be used with a Raspberry Pi 3 which came out recently
( https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/raspberry-pi-3-on-sale/ )
I understand that the Remix Os is compatible with x86 chipsets (i.e. 32-bit chipsets)
And the Raspberry Pi 3 uses a 1.2GHz 64-bit quad-core ARM Cortex-A53 CPU
however, even though the Pi 3 is 64-bit and the Remix Os is 32-bit, that doesn't mean it can't be installed, does it?
the website I mentioned above has a section that says "At launch, we are using the same 32-bit Raspbian userland that we use on other Raspberry Pi devices; over the next few months we will investigate whether there is value in moving to 64-bit mode."
so apparently a 32bit O.S. can be installed, even though the Raspberry Pi is a 64-bit chipset.
So i suppose my question is, has anybody come up with a way to see if this is possible or has anyone done it yet?
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No, at least not the RemixOS for PC(x86).
x86 doesn't mean == 32bit; x86 is the chip architecture; developed by intel and is used by intel/amd chips. It contains different standards with x86 being used in a different context to identify the 32bit variant and x86_64 (or more accurately AMD64 as the 64bit standard was created by AMD) for 64bit.
ARM is a completely different architecture, and has it's own variants; arm (or arm-v7 - and below) for 32bit and arm64 (arm-v8) for 64bit.
Just to clear up some of the other inaccuracies RemixOS for PC has both x86 and x86_64 versions; PhoenixOS just for completeness - last I checked was using a 64bit kernel with a 32bit(x86) system.
Not sure if/when RemixOS would be available for the Rpi3 but it would need to be treated like any other arm based system (android phone/tablet) and get a device specific custom build (not sure if the arm-based sources are available...)
Mattix724 said:
Any 64 bit processor is going to be able to run a 32 bit operating system. The only thing about that is that the OS may not take full advantage of what the processor is capable of. Check the RemixOS website for information regarding 64 bit support.
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It appears that RemixOS offers a 64 operating system. Getting it on the Rasberry Pi should be as easy as pie.
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so you say it'll be "Easy as Pie"...... lets hope that's true..... I'd love to see somebody do it. However i think HypoTurtle has confirmed that it's impossible
slickromeo said:
so you say it'll be "Easy as Pie"...... lets hope that's true..... I'd love to see somebody do it. However i think HypoTurtle has confirmed that it's impossible
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Impossible is a word that should never be uttered here on XDA Developers. With enough support from the community anything is possible in the realms of running a custom OS, especially any Linux based OS such as Android on a device that supports Linux OOTB.
Another option may be to go with the Pine 64 which supports RemixOS natively if you don't want to wait. I suggest the 2GB 16GB version as it will support the camera peripheral if you so chose to add that on at a later time.
Their own product the Remix Mini runs Remix OS on a 1,2 GhHz quad-core cortex A53 (64-bit) Allwinner SOC, wich should be simular to the SOC of the Raspberry Pi 3
https://shop.jide.com/en/detail?pid=10
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Their own product the Remix Mini runs Remix OS on a 1,2 GhHz quad-core cortex A53 (64-bit) Allwinner SOC, wich should be simular to the SOC of the Raspberry Pi 3
https://shop.jide.com/en/detail?pid=10
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I buy it.
The performance is pretty fast, but can be faster.
The Cortex-A53 supports the full ARMv8-A architecture.
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http://www.arm.com/products/processors/cortex-a/cortex-a53-processor.php
so does that mean that the Remix Mini and the Raspberry Pi 3 are the same processor and that remix os should work on RP3
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http://www.arm.com/products/processors/cortex-a/cortex-a53-processor.php
so does that mean that the Remix Mini and the Raspberry Pi 3 are the same processor and that remix os should work on RP3
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I'm going to download now and see if it is possible.
Vodkanakas said:
http://www.arm.com/products/processors/cortex-a/cortex-a53-processor.php
so does that mean that the Remix Mini and the Raspberry Pi 3 are the same processor and that remix os should work on RP3
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They are not really the same processor, it's just the same architecture.
Norduxx said:
I'm going to download now and see if it is possible.
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Unfortunately, ARM is not universal like x86, so you are not going to get very good results, if any.
It's like trying to boot a rom for the OnePlus One on a LG G3, just because they run on the same chipset.
You could try porting it if you know how to, though, if the Remix mini and the RP3 actually run on the same chipset.
I think Raspbian OS is Best OS for Raspberry Pi 3. This operating system is specially designed for raspberry pi devices. I am using raspbian for my project based on raspberry pi starter kits.
It may be possible
For this to happen, the rpi should running android stable enough.
For now the most stable android project for rpi is been developed in this group:
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/android-rpi
but even this isn't stable enough, it should be soon
here are the roms for arm someone with porting knowledge could probably use them http://www.jide.com/remixos/devices/nanopi2 http://www.jide.com/remixos/devices/pinea64 http://www.jide.com/remixos/devices/mini the kernel source is available for the remix mini but i would like to keep this thread going for the devs because remix os on the raspberry pi 3 model b should be interesting as an alternative to lineage which sucks on the pi not saying it don't run im saying it sucks because of the dumb privacy guard i like my android devices to have full root and not have dev options disappear like the trash on tuesday
I have a lenovo Z575 which has an AMD APU with dual graphics. I installed remix os and got the error, which I later fixed following a guide on here from SEPTEMBER 2016...
The fix basically disables the GPU and enforces software graphics.... This makes the system almost unusable and ugly...
I'm wondering why is there still no fix for this? Ubuntu supports dual gpus, and someone who knows what theyre doing posted on google support forums that he merged some files and he got remix os running with dual gpu's, I'm really confused why no one has fixed this...
I'm hoping someone can help me get this running on my PC, if not possible please recommend me some other lightweight operating systems that run fairly well on old hardware...
Would it be better for me to run the lollipop ver. of Remix OS? That seemed to have the dual gpu compatibility...
Hi Users and Devs
im writing my test results here about dual booting and other operating Systems that i have installed them on my yoga book Windows Version and i will try to explain lot of Details about this stuff
First i will share the operating Systems and Details about what work and what not on yoga book.
Ubuntu(17.10.1), PhoenixOS(2.6.2 based on Android-x86 Nougat 7.1.1), BlissOS(10.1 based on Android-x86 Oreo 8.1.0), DeepinOS (15.5): no Sound, no halo Keyboard, no Auto rotating, no sensors, no Bluetooth, only Booting, Touch Screen, Screen brightness controling and WiFi are working
Android-x86(7.1.2), Openthos(Based on Android-x86 Lolipop 5.1): nothings at all
There might be a lot of other OSs that i might Forget to mention above, but i released why some Hardware cant work like Sound, Bluetooth,......
the main Problem is the KERNEL(the kernel is a big Collection of modules and Drivers that boot up our Hardwares as soon as we enter any Operation system), some kernels 4,9.x cant boot or wifi and touch Screen cant work, all kernels 4.12.x Support booting, touch Screen and wifi, all kernels 4.15.x Support booting, touch Screen, brightness controling and wifi
the only kernel that will make other OSs work like a charm and without any missing Drivers is buildslave kernel, this kernel came pre-load with most of Lenovo Yoga series + Yoga Book (for yoga Book Android users go to about tablet and check out it), the Problem is that i dont have a 100 GB (i will explain this later) ( in 22 mar 2018 they released the second Version of the Open Source Code for Lenovo YB1-X90F/L https://pcsupport.lenovo.com/au/en/products/TABLETS/YOGA-SERIES/YOGA-BOOK/downloads/DS118515 ) also depend on my Tests the kernel is only for Android 6.0.1, not for 7.1.1
i tried to build Android x86 from sources using Yoga Book Open Source Code from Lenovo but AOSP files are Need at least 100 GB with Additional files from Android x86 abot 20 gb, unfortunatly i dont have this big size of hard disk on my SSD
Yoga Book Android and Windows versions are 99.99% contain the same hardwares (0.01% are only the Keyboard shapes but also the halo Keyboard is the same in both) thats why it make my optimistic about running Stock yb Android Rom on Windows (Windows Version of yb used same bios as yoga Windows series, but yb Android Version use the same bios as yoga Android series does and all of yoga win and Android series based on Insyde bios)
Android yoga Book System based on Android-IA Project which is from Intel to allow Android run in Intel CPUs https://01.org/android-ia as yoga Book based on cherry Trails cpu
for Android yb users you can install Windows and other OSs on your device but you will force same Bugs above and you need to buy a licence key to get Windows updates on it (i only have yb Windows so i dont know lot of informations about this)
Windows yb BIOS contains a very basic informations and options (for example there is no UEFI and legacy option, there is also no ACPI enable;disable option, cpu overclocking......)
I believe there is a way to install Android stock in yb windows, i mean through reimagie the eMMC, for more infos, visit http://en.miui.com/thread-419845-1-1.html
our yoga book Telegram for devs and users:
MOD EDIT: LINK REMOVED
i will add more informations in the future:fingers-crossed: Also i might be wrong about stuff, after all its my expermints and thoughts
THE MAXIMUM POWER said:
yoga win and Android series based on Insyde bios
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Same Bios? Not really...
jamespmi said:
Same Bios? Not really...
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i didnt say same bios, i said both based on insyde
THE MAXIMUM POWER said:
i didnt say same bios, i said both based on insyde
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What makes you believe the Android YB has an Insyde Bios? Not really, and as many tests demonstrated it not even has a proper ACPI implementation.
jamespmi said:
What makes you believe the Android YB has an Insyde Bios? Not really, and as many tests demonstrated it not even has a proper ACPI implementation.
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Windows BIOS dont support ACPI implementation, that because its hidden and it need to be edited through platform.ini editor tools (inside yb win version bios), the chipset on yb win and android (so far i know both are insyde).
after all you might be correct
correct me if i was wrong
THE MAXIMUM POWER said:
Windows BIOS dont support ACPI implementation
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It's quite the opposite...
Beginning with Windows Vista, the operating system supports only a computer with an ACPI-compliant BIOS
Android however does not use APM or ACPI directly for power management. Android instead has its own Linux power extension (wakelock).
That's why Lenovo uses a basic BIOS on those devices..
jamespmi said:
It's quite the opposite...
Beginning with Windows Vista, the operating system supports only a computer with an ACPI-compliant BIOS
Android however does not use APM or ACPI directly for power management. Android instead has its own Linux power extension (wakelock).
That's why Lenovo uses a basic BIOS on those devices..
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Aha, didnt know this before, is there is a way to install fastboot mode alongside with bios ? i mean like mi pad 2, chuwi,.....
THE MAXIMUM POWER said:
Aha, didnt know this before, is there is a way to install fastboot mode alongside with bios ? i mean like mi pad 2, chuwi,.....
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Fastboot is a Kernel feature introduced ages ago with 2.6.29 (2009) to allow asynchronous function calls (mainly to direct probe things like SCSI or libdata port scans). Nothing to do with the Bios.
Chuwi and some Chinese manufacturers use the special Insyde H20 Bios. Which the Yoga Book is not (by intention), the EEPROM is on a totally different basis.
@THE MAXIMUM POWER What is the best possible Android for playing around on the yoga book at the moment? I know, many things dont work for now, but if i want to try, would blissrom be the best way for now?
moviecut said:
@THE MAXIMUM POWER What is the best possible Android for playing around on the yoga book at the moment? I know, many things dont work for now, but if i want to try, would blissrom be the best way for now?
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Yes, Bliss is the best one (till now)
Hey Man !
I'm not sure if you're still following this; but, I thought maybe I'd better ask if you're still keen on development of this as I'm a kernel dev and have very recently migrated to this lovely new tab. So , I thought maybe if you're still into this, maybe we could gather a team to work on I'd be happy to help with the kernel part as far as my experience beside the medical school allows me to :laugh:
Kind Regards
Hitman1376
hitman1376 said:
Hey Man !
I'm not sure if you're still following this; but, I thought maybe I'd better ask if you're still keen on development of this as I'm a kernel dev and have very recently migrated to this lovely new tab. So , I thought maybe if you're still into this, maybe we could gather a team to work on I'd be happy to help with the kernel part as far as my experience beside the medical school allows me to :laugh:
Kind Regards
Hitman1376
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Hi,
You can join us on MOD EDIT: LINK REMOVED, we Need a Kernel Developer so could help us Fixing some Bugs, we are working also on a Linux that support YB
Regards
THE MAXIMUM POWER said:
Hi,
You can join us on MOD EDIT: LINK REMOVED, we Need a Kernel Developer so could help us Fixing some Bugs, we are working also on a Linux that support YB
Regards
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I'm afraid this doesn't seem to work. I think you people should have changed the address, mate
hitman1376 said:
I'm afraid this doesn't seem to work. I think you people should have changed the address, mate
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Hi,
Did the URL work? you can search at Telegram Lenovo yoga book and you suppose to find us:fingers-crossed:
Regards
If the UEFI firmware can be ported for "almost" every single device that is powered by a Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ SoC, and it was even successfully ported to the Broadcom BCM2711 on the Raspberry PI4 and the BCM2837B0 on the Raspberry PI3 that are not Snapdragon SoCs, then can it ported to MediaTek devices? Plus if it is possible, can someone help me port it to my MediaTek devices "Infinix X692" ? Btw I don't have a very good knowledge about porting the UEFI firmware. Thanks.
I don't think much people have actually worked on that front.
TORNADO9224 said:
If the UEFI firmware can be ported for "almost" every single device that is powered by a Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ SoC, and it was even successfully ported to the Broadcom BCM2711 on the Raspberry PI4 and the BCM2837B0 on the Raspberry PI3 that are not Snapdragon SoCs, then can it ported to MediaTek devices? Plus if it is possible, can someone help me port it to my MediaTek devices "Infinix X692" ? Btw I don't have a very good knowledge about porting the UEFI firmware. Thanks.
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What has this to do with Windows OS this forim is dedicated to? Take note that UEFI ( formerly called BIOS ) isn't part of Windows OS.
I will figure out more on this topic. ReadyPay Online
TORNADO9224 said:
If the UEFI firmware can be ported for "almost" every single device that is powered by a Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ SoC, and it was even successfully ported to the Broadcom BCM2711 on the Raspberry PI4 and the BCM2837B0 on the Raspberry PI3 that are not Snapdragon SoCs, then can it ported to MediaTek devices? Plus if it is possible, can someone help me port it to my MediaTek devices "Infinix X692" ? Btw I don't have a very good knowledge about porting the UEFI firmware. Thanks.
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It's technically possible to port UEFI firmware to MediaTek devices as long as the hardware is compatible and there is sufficient documentation available. However, the process of porting UEFI firmware is highly technical and requires a significant amount of expertise and resources. wordle unlimited
Without detailed technical information and documentation from MediaTek, it would be difficult to port UEFI firmware to your specific device (Infinix X692) without a lot of trial and error. Porting UEFI firmware typically requires a deep understanding of low-level hardware programming and firmware development.
If you don't have experience with porting UEFI firmware, it's not recommended to attempt the process on your own, as it could potentially damage your device. You may want to seek assistance from experienced developers or hire a professional firmware development company to help you with this task.
It's worth noting that the process of porting UEFI firmware to MediaTek devices may also be limited by legal restrictions, as some device manufacturers may not allow users to modify the firmware. You should also be aware of any potential risks associated with modifying the firmware on your device, including voiding the device's warranty or rendering it unusable.
You can give this a try, but I haven't verified it: https://www.androguider.com/2016/10/efidroid-takes-booting-to-completely.html?m=1
Apparently since mediatek uses partition tables it's similar to uefi and thus compatible.