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I have a VS996 that I Frankensteined and WTf'd. I flashed it back to stock VS996 from US998 (still rooted) afterward.
I've been rooting and flashing my android phones for about 10 years now, so this isn't new to me. But this phone is confusing as hell to me.
My question is: Are there any custom roms I can flash over VS996?
[ROM][Joan][UNOFFICIAL]ResurrectionRemix v6.1.0[8.1.0] says it works, but in some of the posts, people say they are running on a VS996 that was Frankensteined. Does that mean they have a VS996 but are now running US998 and the rom? Or they flashed to US998 and then back to VS996 and are now running the rom?
Or do I have to reflash US998 and go from there? Do I have to Re-Frankenstein?
Thanks.
pearlheartgtr said:
I have a VS996 that I Frankensteined and WTf'd. I flashed it back to stock VS996 from US998 (still rooted) afterward.
I've been rooting and flashing my android phones for about 10 years now, so this isn't new to me. But this phone is confusing as hell to me.
My question is: Are there any custom roms I can flash over VS996?
[ROM][Joan][UNOFFICIAL]ResurrectionRemix v6.1.0[8.1.0] says it works, but in some of the posts, people say they are running on a VS996 that was Frankensteined. Does that mean they have a VS996 but are now running US998 and the rom? Or they flashed to US998 and then back to VS996 and are now running the rom?
Or do I have to reflash US998 and go from there? Do I have to Re-Frankenstein?
Thanks.
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All current era (last six months at least) "H930" AOSP/Lineage custom ROMs work with all V30/V30+/V30S variants -- except for T-Mobile H932. This includes VS996.
Think of "H930" label for AOSP/Lineage custom ROMs as meaning it's not for "H932", but includes ALL others. Conversely, do NOT flash anything labelled for "H932" on ANY other V30.
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All current era (last six months at least) "H930" AOSP/Lineage custom ROMs work with all V30/V30+/V30S variants -- except for T-Mobile H932. This includes VS996.
Think of "H930" label for AOSP/Lineage custom ROMs as meaning it's not for "H932", but includes ALL others. Conversely, do NOT flash anything labelled for "H932" on ANY other V30.
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Thank you. That's exactly what I needed to know.
Related question I think, what is the advantage of 996 if I'm on Verizon network? Just bloatware?
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Related question I think, what is the advantage of 996 if I'm on Verizon network? Just bloatware?
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Verizon users can answer that better. Sometimes stuff like texting, VoLTE, Wi-Fi calling can work better on carrier firmware. However I do not know if that's the case with Verizon. I think most Verizon users on US998 have workaround for all that, but I can't be certain
Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
I've heard that you can't run Verizon's VOLTE on non-VS996 firmwares. Most custom ROMs also dont' support VZ-VOLTE because of this. I believe there's a thread with a reward for someone who figures it out, but bottom line is that it doesn't work today. For this reason, I have stayed with VS996. Honestly, it gives you everything you need... and you can easily freeze/disable whatever you don't want. NOTE, you do need the Verizon app to be installed and active for VOLTE to work, from what I've seen... but the rest can be frozen. Incidentally, it's better to freeze/disable than uninstall., because you can always restore it later if needed... too many people try to uninstall and then ask for the APK later to try to fix it...
I'm a Verizon user with a vs996. I have tried the different AOSP roms, and while they do ok, I have always had something not work exactly as it should, i.e., the texting, phone problems, or the quad dac, (depending on the rom) or some other just mostly little (not major) issues.
Last week, I finally tried the vs996 twrp rom, instead of the us998, that I normally run. After about a week, I decided that I did not like it quite as well as the us998 rom and so, yesterday I went back to us998. The vs996 didn't seem to work as smoothly as it should (I don't use some of the stuff people on here want that only Verizon has - - ie, wifi calling). At times I had to do double tap on things, just minor stuff. The other thing is, in order to use the Hotspot, you have to go thru Verizon, but, with the us998, I can use the included hot spot, if need be and not worry about Verizon.
So, I am very happy with the us998 rom. I would like to do more customization, but not a big deal if I don't. It runs the smoothest, for me, of all the roms I have tried.
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I've heard that you can't run Verizon's VOLTE on non-VS996 firmwares. Most custom ROMs also dont' support VZ-VOLTE because of this. I believe there's a thread with a reward for someone who figures it out, but bottom line is that it doesn't work today. For this reason, I have stayed with VS996. Honestly, it gives you everything you need... and you can easily freeze/disable whatever you don't want. NOTE, you do need the Verizon app to be installed and active for VOLTE to work, from what I've seen... but the rest can be frozen. Incidentally, it's better to freeze/disable than uninstall., because you can always restore it later if needed... too many people try to uninstall and then ask for the APK later to try to fix it...
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gimpy1 said:
I'm a Verizon user with a vs996. I have tried the different AOSP roms, and while they do ok, I have always had something not work exactly as it should, i.e., the texting, phone problems, or the quad dac, (depending on the rom) or some other just mostly little (not major) issues.
Last week, I finally tried the vs996 twrp rom, instead of the us998, that I normally run. After about a week, I decided that I did not like it quite as well as the us998 rom and so, yesterday I went back to us998. The vs996 didn't seem to work as smoothly as it should (I don't use some of the stuff people on here want that only Verizon has - - ie, wifi calling). At times I had to do double tap on things, just minor stuff. The other thing is, in order to use the Hotspot, you have to go thru Verizon, but, with the us998, I can use the included hot spot, if need be and not worry about Verizon.
So, I am very happy with the us998 rom. I would like to do more customization, but not a big deal if I don't. It runs the smoothest, for me, of all the roms I have tried.
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I'm on Page Plus (Verizon service) and Volte doesn't really concern me. But I understand with roms not working correctly. I've flashed my fair share on my Motorolas. For the time being, I think I'm going to stick with stock since I'm still getting used to this phone. I just wish the recovery had rom slots like my old Droid Razr had so I could test out different roms without screwing things up, lol.
I do love this phone. Such a nice upgrade from the Droid Turbo. It was also nice to unlock it FOR FREE unlike the Turbo.
I did notice something with Titanium Backup (I used to use it on my Samsun Intercept and Razr). When I froze or uninstalled certain apps, they still remained in the App list in Settings as enabled or still installed. It caused havok when they'd try to run on their own (some Google apps). I had to unfreeze them and disable in Settings. Strange. All of the other bloatware still shows as installed, too.
pearlheartgtr said:
Such a nice upgrade from the Droid Turbo. It was also nice to unlock it FOR FREE unlike the Turbo.
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I had the International version of the Moto Quark (sold under various names around the world: Droid Turbo/Moto Turbo/Moto Maxx) and yes the V30 is the phone I chose to upgrade from after 3 years. The V30/V30+ is the successor in spirit to that phone. It's the phone Motorola should have made if they had not lost their way with stupid mods.
For the record, I'm on Total Wireless (Verizon MVNO)... that's why I prefer to have VS996 for the wifi/volte calling.
I don't notice any lagging or slowdowns. I have disabled some of the VZ bloatware, so maybe that's what helped it. I was on US998 originally, but when I couldn't get wifi/volte working I knew I had to stick to this.
Keep in mind, I believe VZ will be going all volte in the near future? At which point, you may be forced to run a volte-capable ROM. Certainly nothing to worry about right now, but I thought that was happening in 2020 or something, so I figured I'd be ready from the start.
schwinn8 said:
For the record, I'm on Total Wireless (Verizon MVNO)... that's why I prefer to have VS996 for the wifi/volte calling.
I don't notice any lagging or slowdowns. I have disabled some of the VZ bloatware, so maybe that's what helped it. I was on US998 originally, but when I couldn't get wifi/volte working I knew I had to stick to this.
Keep in mind, I believe VZ will be going all volte in the near future? At which point, you may be forced to run a volte-capable ROM. Certainly nothing to worry about right now, but I thought that was happening in 2020 or something, so I figured I'd be ready from the start.
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Verizon says LTE and VoLTE only after December 31, 2019.
https://www.verizonwireless.com/support/knowledge-base-218813/
There you go. So, it's better to be prepared, and tweak now rather than having to do it last minute... at least that's what I'm doing...
quick question:
I bought a frankestensteined US998 that was a LS998. It was bought running android 7.0, i updated it using LGUP to US99820e Android 8.0 Sept 2018 Security.
I have not rooted (checked it and it not rooted)
Bootloader, i didn't unlock it
I have dont nothing to the phone other than just update it from Android 7 to Android 8
I am running stock US998 and woud like to flash vs996 as i'm on total wireless (i have read about that and know how to do it, easy upgrade)
Can I return to US998 from vs996 just as easy, in case I want To go back to us998 what would i have to do?
thanks
jaygo444 said:
quick question:
I bought a frankestensteined US998 that was a LS998. It was bought running android 7.0, i updated it using LGUP to US99820e Android 8.0 Sept 2018 Security.
I have not rooted (checked it and it not rooted)
Bootloader, i didn't unlock it
I have dont nothing to the phone other than just update it from Android 7 to Android 8
I am running stock US998 and woud like to flash vs996 as i'm on total wireless (i have read about that and know how to do it, easy upgrade)
Can I return to US998 from vs996 just as easy, in case I want To go back to us998 what would i have to do?
thanks
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Yes. You can flash VS996 KDZ via Frankenstein instructions. You can return to US998 also via Frankenstein instructions.
I had a question for all the rooted/unlocked VS996 users. Im currently running US998 because of the tethering function. I'd rather be on VS996 for the Volte features and just debloat. Has anyone figured out how to get around/disable the tether check Verizon has on this rom? Is there an easy way to get the tethering to work? I even tried the magisk tether module with no luck. Thanks for any suggestions!
Hey, I have V30S (B&H variant) which is identical firmware-wise to the regular US998. Ever since upgrading to Pie, the WiFi calling has stopped working. Whenever I try to enable it, the settings app crashes. Has anybody been able to get WiFi calling work?
deroth said:
Hey, I have V30S (B&H variant) which is identical firmware-wise to the regular US998. Ever since upgrading to Pie, the WiFi calling has stopped working. Whenever I try to enable it, the settings app crashes. Has anybody been able to get WiFi calling work?
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How did you update to Pie? Not through OTA, as Pie is not available yet for Open Market USS98 V30/V30+/V30S variants (that we know of).
So you probably used the US998 Pie KDZ we have posted here on XDA? Technically, it's for U.S. Cellular US998. For Oreo, it didn't make a difference. But for Pie, they added some carrier bloatware and stuff.
What carrier were you using WiFi calling with? T-Mobile? Downgrade back to Oreo and you should have it again. The U.S. Cellular Pie must not be configured to allow WiFi Calling from other carriers.
At some point, probably after Sprint LS998 gets Pie, the Open Market USS98 will get Pie firmware.
Yeah I upgraded using the rom posted here and figured the reason for Wi-Fi calling not working was because it's a US cellular based rom. I was just hoping somebody figured a way to fix it. I'm guessing it's a matter of some config files somewhere but that's just a blind guess on my part.
So I finally unlocked my LG V30+ on sprint, (LS998)
I'm curious about anyone who has UICC unlocked the phone on a sprint network, then switched over to tmo, cricket, vz, simple mobile, metro or some other company:
-Did everything work ok, data and voice?
-Did you have any issues? if so what where they
-other than popping the sprint sim out and the other sim in, did you have to do anything else to get it to work, ie: new apn?
I ask because doing a Google search and landing on sprint forums it seems that some have switched to tmo and had issues..... Most common ones seem to be either they have data and no voice, or they have voice but no data.
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So I finally unlocked my LG V30+ on sprint, (LS998)
I'm curious about anyone who has UICC unlocked the phone on a sprint network, then switched over to tmo, cricket, vz, simple mobile, metro or some other company:
-Did everything work ok, data and voice?
-Did you have any issues? if so what where they
-other than popping the sprint sim out and the other sim in, did you have to do anything else to get it to work, ie: new apn?
I ask because doing a Google search and landing on sprint forums it seems that some have switched to tmo and had issues..... Most common ones seem to be either they have data and no voice, or they have voice but no data.
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Well I didn't uicc unlock but I did flash us998 kdz on my ls998 and it sim unlocked it fine. I was using it on T-Mobile.
Everything worked as intended, volte and calls over WiFi worked fine. No issues at all. The only thing this phone needs is proper Android 10 support. WiFi on Android 10 for the v30 is a hit and miss. There are fixes available but that was too much of a hassle for me personally. Went back to stock.
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So I finally unlocked my LG V30+ on sprint, (LS998)
I'm curious about anyone who has UICC unlocked the phone on a sprint network, then switched over to tmo, cricket, vz, simple mobile, metro or some other company:
-Did everything work ok, data and voice?
-Did you have any issues? if so what where they
-other than popping the sprint sim out and the other sim in, did you have to do anything else to get it to work, ie: new apn?
I ask because doing a Google search and landing on sprint forums it seems that some have switched to tmo and had issues..... Most common ones seem to be either they have data and no voice, or they have voice but no data.
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That's because the Sprint firmware does not have all the bands necessary for other carriers. It's still a Sprint phone. Whereas if you convert it to US998 it would be more compatible with other carriers. Like stated above, on T-Mobile you get VoLTE, Wi-Fi calling, etc. Or use the "US998" on AT&T. Once converted it takes on the bands/modems of the firmware you are converting to.
I know you've already carrier unlocked your phone, but the easiest, most common way to carrier unlock LS998 is to convert to Open Market US998 or some North American carrier unlocked firmware. Which also gives you the advantage of better LTE bands. See attached screenshots.
No one who is not a Sprint customer leaves LS998 on Sprint firmware. At least people who have access to information on XDA. See Frankenstein instructions.
Like the other said.... make it a US998 phone and you can go wherever you want. I had my converted US998, which I then converted to VS996. This was used on Verizon and now on TotalWireless with no issues. I'm thinking of going back to US998 since I don't have to have VZ stuff on it anymore.
Make the jump and you'll be happy. US998 is a great place to be (except on VZ, where VS996 makes sense).
Yeah, if I end up switching carriers, I'll be kdz flashing the us988.
I left a lengthy thread on going back to sprint via the ls988 and frankenstien way, but I was wondering since you have to be rooted and bl unlocked, the phone won't register correctly back on sprint if the bl is unlocked, so in that case what do you do?
If it's not possible to do, then it's pretty much once you leave sprint it's a done deal, no going back.
Here is the thread:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/how-to/simple-question-us988-to-lg988-t4096609
Read the thread. Believe ChazzMatt's statements, as he is the expert on this phone and process. In the very thread you quoted, he says:
"Lots of Sprint people who have temporarily converted to US998, unlocked bootoader, then flash back to Sprint firmware -- keeping TWRP and root. One of our main DEVs is a Sprint customer. So your worries are totally baseless.
Why do you think we have TWRP flashable zips Sprint firmware to flash back to, if the phone couldn't be used?"
Bottom line, you'll be fine. The trick is you need to be already activated on Sprint. Verizon does the same BS... they won't let you activate on a non-VZ phone just because they're idiots. There is no reason not to do this, as you certainly can work with these phones. As I (and many others) have proven time and time again. I'm guessing Sprint may do the same thing...
easyrider77 said:
So I finally unlocked my LG V30+ on sprint, (LS998)
I'm curious about anyone who has UICC unlocked the phone on a sprint network, then switched over to tmo, cricket, vz, simple mobile, metro or some other company:
-Did everything work ok, data and voice?
-Did you have any issues? if so what where they
-other than popping the sprint sim out and the other sim in, did you have to do anything else to get it to work, ie: new apn?
I ask because doing a Google search and landing on sprint forums it seems that some have switched to tmo and had issues..... Most common ones seem to be either they have data and no voice, or they have voice but no data.
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I just purchased a Lg V30 H932 64GB (T-Mobile + GSM Unlocked) off ebay a few days ago. I put my At&T sim in it and set my APN settings to AT&T's (NXTGENPHONE) which is what I had on my old phone (LG K20 Metro unlocked).
I can call, text, and get online but the mobile hotspot isn't working. It allows other devices to connect but says " NO INTERNET".
Its very frustrating because I rely on my hotspot to use my pc and other devices. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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I just purchased a Lg V30 H932 64GB (T-Mobile + GSM Unlocked) off ebay a few days ago. I put my At&T sim in it and set my APN settings to AT&T's (NXTGENPHONE) which is what I had on my old phone (LG K20 Metro unlocked).
I can call, text, and get online but the mobile hotspot isn't working. It allows other devices to connect but says " NO INTERNET".
Its very frustrating because I rely on my hotspot to use my pc and other devices. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Probably should have bought Open Market US998. Easily root and use hotspot.
Maybe if you root the T-Mobile H932 you can get hotspot working, but T-Mobile H932 is more difficult to root than the other variants. You also can NOT cross flash T-Mobile H932 to any other variant.
See post #1:
ROOT YOUR V30!
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/how-to/root-v30-t3927154
ncromer31 said:
I just purchased a Lg V30 H932 64GB (T-Mobile + GSM Unlocked) off ebay a few days ago. I put my At&T sim in it and set my APN settings to AT&T's (NXTGENPHONE) which is what I had on my old phone (LG K20 Metro unlocked).
I can call, text, and get online but the mobile hotspot isn't working. It allows other devices to connect but says " NO INTERNET".
Its very frustrating because I rely on my hotspot to use my pc and other devices. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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It is true that H932 is the most locked down V30 model, and not one to recommend, except for users who need LTE band 71 (which only this model supports).
BUT I had no problems using HotSpot with my H932 on Red Pocket GSMA (AT&T MVNO). I just set it up under Tethering and it worked no problem. Of course the APN has to be correct for it, and I cannot tell you what that should be for native AT&T.
ChazzMatt said:
Probably should have bought Open Market US998. Easily root and use hotspot.
Maybe if you root the T-Mobile H932 you can get hotspot working, but T-Mobile H932 is more difficult to root than the other variants. You also can NOT cross flash T-Mobile H932 to any other variant.
See post #1:
ROOT YOUR V30!
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/how-to/root-v30-t3927154
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I wish I had known more about this before I bought it. I just assumed everything would work right since it was unlocked and compatible with AT&T. I never had any issues with my Metro phone that was unlocked.
I've never rooted or flashed a LG phone before and am kinda worried about messing it up. I've used Odin with my S5 and flashed it but never rooted it. I thought setting the apn settings to what I had them as on my previous phone would work but it doesn't. I searched the network operators and it only showed "RAT : ATT " and " RAT : WCDMA".
network mode only listed these options:
Automatic LTE/3G/2G
Automatic 3G/2G
LTE/3G
2G Only
The network mode I was using (on previous phone) was GSM/WCDMA/LTE auto but I dont have that option now..
Thanks for the help!
ChazzMatt said:
Probably should have bought Open Market US998. Easily root and use hotspot.
Maybe if you root the T-Mobile H932 you can get hotspot working, but T-Mobile H932 is more difficult to root than the other variants. You also can NOT cross flash T-Mobile H932 to any other variant.
See post #1:
ROOT YOUR V30!
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/how-to/root-v30-t3927154
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TheDannemand said:
It is true that H932 is the most locked down V30 model, and not one to recommend, except for users who need LTE band 71 (which only this model supports).
BUT I had no problems using HotSpot with my H932 on Red Pocket GSMA (AT&T MVNO). I just set it up under Tethering and it worked no problem. Of course the APN has to be correct for it, and I cannot tell you what that should be for native AT&T.
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I actually fixed it and it was quite simple..I went to my apn settings. I used the NXTGENPHONE settings except I added "dun", to the end of my apn type!
ncromer31 said:
I actually fixed it and it was quite simple..I went to my apn settings. I used the NXTGENPHONE settings except I added "dun", to the end of my apn type!
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Good, makes sense. As much as I agree about the limitations of H932, inability to tether isn't one of them!
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I actually fixed it and it was quite simple..I went to my apn settings. I used the NXTGENPHONE settings except I added "dun", to the end of my apn type!
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Glad you got it working. The reason I suggested root is because there are some carriers who won't let you have hotspot without paying extra for the privilege of using your own phone to its full extent. Rooting solves that.
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Glad you got it working. The reason I suggested root is because there are some carriers who won't let you have hotspot without paying extra for the privilege of using your own phone to its full extent. Rooting solves that.
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Fair enough: Adding "dun" to the APN only works when tethering is permitted by the carrier -- and it allows the carrier to meter the tethered data, and throttle it if they want. Personally I haven't had a traditional carrier in years, and the MVNO I use isn't the shenanigans type.
But do we really need root to work around that? I recall an old all trick from my Nexus 5 days where we would set tether_dun_required=0 in the global settings database using ADB, with no root required. I haven't had to do this on V30, again because I have avoided those carriers. But I would guess it still works.
I am asking, since surely you would know
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Fair enough: Adding "dun" to the APN only works when tethering is permitted by the carrier -- and it allows the carrier to meter the tethered data, and throttle it if they want. Personally I haven't had a traditional carrier in years, and the MVNO I use isn't the shenanigans type.
But do we really need root to work around that? I recall an old all trick from my Nexus 5 days where we would set tether_dun_required=0 in the global settings database using ADB, with no root required. I haven't had to do this on V30, again because I have avoided those carriers. But I would guess it still works.
I am asking, since surely you would know
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Verizon is a carrier who won't allow you to "tether" without paying a separate hotspot fee per month. For those people still on legacy (true) unlimited data, many use root to get around that.
https://www.verizonwireless.com/support/mobile-hotspot-faqs/
Note: The $75 Prepaid Unlimited* plan also includes Mobile Hotspot with speeds up to 600 kbps. Mobile Hotspot isn't available on the $70 Prepaid Unlimited and $80 Prepaid Unlimited* plans.
If you don't have one of the plans listed above, you may be able to add Mobile Hotspot to your line. You'll be charged monthly to have the Mobile Hotspot feature, in addition to data usage charges.
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ChazzMatt said:
Verizon is a carrier who won't allow you to "tether" without paying a separate hotspot fee per month. For those people still on legacy (true) unlimited data, many use root to get around that.
https://www.verizonwireless.com/support/mobile-hotspot-faqs/
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Absolutely. We know that the traditional carriers like to limit or throttle tethering. I think T-Mobile does too. The dun feature exists to help them control that, by classifying tethered data separately from other data.
What I meant was do we really need root to work around that on V30? Doesn't the old trick I mentioned (or maybe a newer one) work on V30?
Edit: I may actually test that to find out. Dun in the APN shouldn't be needed in 2020.
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Absolutely. We know that the traditional carriers like to limit or throttle tethering. I think T-Mobile does too. The dun feature exists to help them control that, by classifying tethered data separately from other data.
What I meant was do we really need root to work around that on V30? Doesn't the old trick I mentioned (or maybe a newer one) work on V30?
Edit: I may actually test that to find out. Dun in the APN shouldn't be needed in 2020.
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I wasn't aware of any trick other than rooting because I've always had rooted phones...
In all my years of Androids I've really only needed hotspot one time -- when I was in Brazil. But I was rooted and it worked great.
Yes, I've tested a couple of other times, but again I'm rooted.
My question/problem. What/why do I have a good 4 bars (of 5 bars) of data signal normally, but, when I decide to dial and make a telephone call, the signal strength goes to barely one bar as soon as I hit the dial button on the phone? I have not moved myself or the phone's location. The call may dial, but goes in and out and, more often than not, drops the call. At the same time, if I receive a call from someone, it is normally a much better signal, and does not drop or go in and out.
I am on Verizon phone (vs996) Frankenstein to us998 30b (pie). I have recently tried android 10 roms (Havoc, POSP). I don't know if that has anything to do with it or not? Very frustrating when trying to call someone.
Any thoughts or explanations or, hopefully, fixes?
Thx
gimpy1 said:
My question/problem. What/why do I have a good 4 bars (of 5 bars) of data signal normally, but, when I decide to dial and make a telephone call, the signal strength goes to barely one bar as soon as I hit the dial button on the phone? I have not moved myself or the phone's location. The call may dial, but goes in and out and, more often than not, drops the call. At the same time, if I receive a call from someone, it is normally a much better signal, and does not drop or go in and out.
I am on Verizon phone (vs996) Frankenstein to us998 30b (pie). I have recently tried android 10 roms (Havoc, POSP). I don't know if that has anything to do with it or not? Very frustrating when trying to call someone.
Any thoughts or explanations or, hopefully, fixes?
Thx
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If you are using Verizon on US998 firmware, then you don't have access to VoLTE (which is phone calls over LTE, Voice over LTE). LTE started out as a data-only service but for actual phone calls, carriers were still using 3G HSPA or CDMA (Verizon, Sprint). When making a phone call, phones temporarily bump down to 3G, and then jump back to LTE after the phone call is over.
With the VoLTE protocol, that finally allowed phone calls with LTE. It added VOICE capability to LTE.
However, different carriers treat VoLTE differently. T-mobile allows VoLTE and Wi-Fi calling for US998 phones, while AT&T and Verizon are more stingy. They reserve VoLTE mostly for their branded phones running their carrier firmware.
I'm an AT&T customer and I've never had VoLTE because I've never used a branded AT&T phone. For me, on AT&T, when I make a phone call I am bumped down temporarily to AT&T HSPA. Then, after the phone call, it jumps back to LTE.
If I were to flash the AT&T TWRP flashable zip, possibly I could enable that. But it's not just firmware, it's also a setting on the carrier side that has to be enabled.
Bottom line, what's happening is you are seeing you STRONG LTE signal. But when you make a phone call, you are being temporarily bumped down to Verizon CDMA. However, Verizon is in the process of dismantling all their CDMA towers. That's why your CDMA signal is so weak. Verizon plans to shutdown CDMA entirely by end of 2020. After that, you will need VoLTE to make phone calls on Verizon.
Since you have an actual VS996, you can flash the VS996 TWRP-flashable zip. Once on that firmware, see if VoLTE is enabled on your account (carrier side setting) and see if when you make phone calls you stay on LTE and are not bumped down to CDMA?
Thx, Chazz. So, it's a Verizon thing? Not necessarily something I caused by going back and forth trying out the different Android 10 roms. Good to know. I will try the 996 rom later today, since I don't need the Hotspot for a couple of days. As always, you've been very helpful, thx. :good:
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Thx, Chazz. So, it's a Verizon thing? Not necessarily something I caused by going back and forth trying out the different Android 10 roms. Good to know. I will try the 996 rom later today, since I don't need the Hotspot for a couple of days. As always, you've been very helpful, thx. :good:
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Yes, especially if you see strong LTE signal before making the phone call. Control freak Verizon (mostly) only allows VoLTE on Verizon firmware with Verizon branded phones. There may be exceptions (maybe Pixel phones?) and I know the ZTE Axon 7 (not a branded Verizon phone) somehow got VoLTE not only on ZTE stock firmware but also on LOS ROM -- but I believe ZTE paid Verizon to allow that. It's the exception that proves the rule.
Here's a a more in depth article about Verizon CDMA being shut down end of this year.
https://grantcountyreview.com/content/verizon-wireless-postpones-its-shutdown-3g-cdma networks
when Verizon closes its 2G and 3G networks at the end of 2020, 3G phones will become obsolete and non-VoLTE LTE phones will not be able to make or receive calls.
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You DO have a Verizon VoLTE capable phone -- a Verizon VS996 -- but for V30 only on Verizon firmware. If you were using T-mobile with US998 firmware, you would have no problems with VoLTE or Wi-Fi calling. T-mobile is more open than Verizon about such perks.
I don't get VoLTE with AT&T on US998 firmware, but AT&T has no plans to end 3G HSPA anytime soon.
Chazz, I thought I would give a quick update. Late Last night/early this morning, I switched to vs99630c. I have made two phone calls, one to Florida, one to Washington state. Both connected and sounded so much better than when with the us99830b Rom. Even though both dialers had a little HD in the upper left hand corner. This Rom kept the same 3 or 4 bar designation for the signal strength. Much happier with it. Even though I don't have a hotspot (may have to pay the $10(?)or so to set it up, if I decide to stay on here.
Also, I have just seen a 99630c debloated Rom someone has made, that I might try in the next day or so.
I so wanted to try the android 10 Roms, but I just had too many small issues (reboots, no hot spot, system ui crashes, etc.).
Thnx, again for your help and guidance.
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Chazz, I thought I would give a quick update. Late Last night/early this morning, I switched to vs99630c. I have made two phone calls, one to Florida, one to Washington state. Both connected and sounded so much better than when with the us99830b Rom. Even though both dialers had a little HD in the upper left hand corner. This Rom kept the same 3 or 4 bar designation for the signal strength.
Much happier with it. Even though I don't have a hotspot (may have to pay the $10(?)or so to set it up, if I decide to stay on here.
Also, I have just seen a 99630c debloated Rom someone has made, that I might try in the next day or so.
I so wanted to try the android 10 Roms, but I just had too many small issues (reboots, no hot spot, system ui crashes, etc.).
Thnx, again for your help and guidance.
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Then you are now probably using Verizon VoLTE, which is using LTE signal -- not the increasingly degraded CDMA signal Verizon will completely shut off December 31, 2020.
Verizon is probably already deprecating those towers -- leaving just enough, like when you're on the highways.
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Then you are now probably using Verizon VoLTE, which is using LTE signal not the increasingly degraded CDMA signal Verizon will completely shut off December 31, 2020.
Verizon is probably already deprecating those towers -- leaving just enough, like when you're on the highways.
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I really want volte and vowifi for my unlocked us998. The only way to have that is to flash the vs rom, which is 30c? I'm on US99820h, what do I lose by going to the vs rom? Is there a vs 20h variant?
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I really want volte and vowifi for my unlocked us998. The only way to have that is to flash the vs rom, which is 30c? I'm on US99820h, what do I lose by going to the vs rom? Is there a vs 20h variant?
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Yes, we have Oreo VS996 KDZ. It's actually "20k", because it took Verizon two attempts to fully release LG V30 Oreo. And they released a couple extra updates for Verizon related bugs. So, although it's equivalent to US998 20h, it's a higher letter.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/development/vs996-lg-v30-verizon-vs996-t3865398
You need to have VoLTE enabled in your Verizon account, besides flashing this firmware. It helps to have it already enabled from a Verizon branded phone. But sometimes a helpful store rep willing to bend the rules can do it for you.
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Yes, we have Oreo VS996 KDZ. It's actually "20k", because it took Verizon two attempts to fully release LG V30 Oreo. And they released a couple extra updates for Verizon related bugs.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/development/vs996-lg-v30-verizon-vs996-t3865398
You need to have VoLTE enabled in your Verizon account, besides flashing this firmware. It helps to have it already enabled from a Verizon branded phone. But sometimes a helpful store rep willing to bend the rules can do it for you.
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I thought the Pie variants were not great, lots of broken features? Or was that just the US998 versions? What were the tradeoffs to staying on Oreo?
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I thought the Pie variants were not great, lots of broken features? Or was that just the US998 versions? What were the tradeoffs to staying on Oreo?
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You asked for Verizon Oreo equivalent to US998 20h and that's what I gave you.
I'm not recommending Pie for US998.
Verizon Pie may be a lot better. I don't know. Someone using Verizon Pie will have to answer.
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You asked for Verizon Oreo equivalent to US998 20h and that's what I gave you.
I'm not recommending Pie for US998.
Verizon Pie may be a lot better. I don't know. Someone using Verizon Pie will have to answer.
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I misread, somehow thought the ROM you linked was Pie. My bad. I know dirty flash is never recommended, but could I get away with it here? What do I lose by going with the VS ROM over the US998? Apparently the only things I have to gain are VOLTE and possibly VVM?
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I misread, somehow thought the ROM you linked was Pie. My bad. I know dirty flash is never recommended, but could I get away with it here? What do I lose by going with the VS ROM over the US998? Apparently the only things I have to gain are VOLTE and possibly VVM?
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Do you have VoLTE already enabled in your Verizon account?
You'll lose the no bloatware experience, but you can fix that with Titanium Backup.
As for dirty flashing, you can try... If it doesn't work, then you have to factory reset and clean install. Don't forget to reflash Magisk.
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Do you have VoLTE already enabled in your Verizon account?
You'll lose the no bloatware experience, but you can fix that with Titanium Backup.
As for dirty flashing, you can try... If it doesn't work, then you have to factory reset and clean install. Don't forget to reflash Magisk.
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I logged into my VZW account and after 8745 menus, finally found the HD Voice section. It says it's "Active", so I should be good for the VS ROM yes?
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I logged into my VZW account and after 8745 menus, finally found the HD Voice section. It says it's "Active", so I should be good for the VS ROM yes?
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Seems like, yes.
I had to do a few steps to manually activate HD/VOLTE on my VS996 phone when I was on VZ. I documented the steps somewhere here (using ShortcutMasterLite). I know at least one other member here used the same steps on his phone. I'm thinking you'll be fine once you're on VS996.
I have not switched to Pie... still running Oreo. I have heard too many issues with Pie, so I have no desire to bother. I can't imagine VZ's Pie release is any better than Pie US998. VZ is too lazy to do anything else right, so why would they bother fixing what's wrong on US998.
Just want to quickly update this thread. I dirty flashed the VS99620K.zip in TWRP, then immediately flashed the latest Magisk zip. Everything updated perfectly, installed about 10 VZ apps, and I now have VOWIFI (and can send/receive texts!), though haven't been able to check VOLTE as I'm currently in a dead zone.
I'd already had HD calling active on my account, but can't select the option to also enable Video Calling. It says I need to contact support. I chatted multiple times with VZ support who claim it's active, though every time I try to enable it, it gives me the same error. What is this option, and do I need it? I'm pretty sure I was able to use Duo, Skype, Zoom, etc before the ROM update, am I spinning my wheels here?
Also, independent of this upgrade, my motion GIFs in any text app don't move. I thought it might have something to do with the non-VZ specific kernel, but after flashing, still just shows a static picture.
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I'd already had HD calling active on my account, but can't select the option to also enable Video Calling. It says I need to contact support. I chatted multiple times with VZ support who claim it's active, though every time I try to enable it, it gives me the same error. What is this option, and do I need it? I'm pretty sure I was able to use Duo, Skype, Zoom, etc before the ROM update, am I spinning my wheels here?
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Are you the account holder? Some people can't get to it as they are just user.
https://community.verizonwireless.c...video-calling-feature-is-disabled/td-p/853001
I'm not sure what Verizon video calling is. I'm guessing some Verizon-only video chat -- like Apple's FaceTime is only for iOS? If you are already using Duo, Skype, Zoom, it would seem you don't need it. But you do make sure you have voice over LTE (VoLTE, called "HD calling" Verzion) --before end of this year.
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Are you the account holder? Some people can't get to it as they are just user.
https://community.verizonwireless.c...video-calling-feature-is-disabled/td-p/853001
I'm not sure what video calling is. I'm guessing some Verizon-only video chat -- like Apple's FaceTime is only for iOS? If you are already using Duo, Skype, Zoom, you don't need it. But you do need to get voice over LTE.
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I am the only user on this account, so definitely the account holder. After more wasted chats with VZ, they said that since my phone is not VZ branded, it's not eligible for Video Calling, which apparently is exactly as you described; Facetime for non-iphone Verizon users. I don't need that, as you said all my other platforms work fine.
How do I determine if VOLTE works? Like I said, I'm in a dead zone now, but going out to a good cell region in a few hours and can check then somehow. I did confirm that I can make calls and text over WiFi, so that's half the battle. How to check VOLTE?
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How do I determine if VOLTE works? Like I said, I'm in a dead zone now, but going out to a good cell region in a few hours and can check then somehow. I did confirm that I can make calls and text over WiFi, so that's half the battle. How to check VOLTE?
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I think if you have Vo-WiFi that means your VoLTE is also activated. They seem to be packaged together.
If you make a call in a good signal area, see if the "4GLTE" icon stays on when you make the call. It may even change to VoLTE icon? or HD calling icon? A Verizon user can probably tell you better. But the key is to see if there are any status bar icon changes and what they are. Also see if there is any information in the dialer GUI during the call, where you click on the dialer timer.
Yeah, don't talk to VZ. They're too stupid to help and downright liars. Your phone will work fine on their network even if it's not VZ branded (I've used US998 and H931 phones on VZ without issue).
On my phone, I did have to do some setting changes in SML (ShortcutMasterLite) to get VOLTE working. I don't think most people have to do that, but I did... and I agree, I think that got VOWIFI working as well. I'm guessing you have both, too... just need to try it. If not, you can force-activate it as I documented earlier (via SML).
I'm running rooted stock 30b (US998), and it's been running solid for years until lately. Now it seems it's starting to lag and slow down to the point of near unusability.
Want to try using a custom ROM to see if that will alleviate the issue, but due to my carrier (MVNO of T-Mo), I need VoLTE. Normally LineageOS is my go-to, but the 19.1 build doesn't support VoLTE and it says it probably never will.
I see other ROMs as well, but if they're all AOSP/LineageOS based, then can I safely assume they won't support VoLTE either? Or are there any custom ROMs out there for the V30 that DO support VoLTE?
VoWiFi would also be nice
Thanks
As far as I've seen, no custom ROM supports VOLTE on this phone. Maybe other phones have it, but not this one. There was a "reward" post for someone finding a way to get it working, but it never happened.
I've heard issues with Pie ROMs on this phone, as the released version wasn't done very well. I might suggest going back to US998 Oreo as this may resolve the issues for you.
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As far as I've seen, no custom ROM supports VOLTE on this phone. Maybe other phones have it, but not this one. There was a "reward" post for someone finding a way to get it working, but it never happened.
I've heard issues with Pie ROMs on this phone, as the released version wasn't done very well. I might suggest going back to US998 Oreo as this may resolve the issues for you.
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Okay good to know, thanks
mon0theist said:
I'm running rooted stock 30b (US998), and it's been running solid for years until lately. Now it seems it's starting to lag and slow down to the point of near unusability.
Want to try using a custom ROM to see if that will alleviate the issue, but due to my carrier (MVNO of T-Mo), I need VoLTE. Normally LineageOS is my go-to, but the 19.1 build doesn't support VoLTE and it says it probably never will.
I see other ROMs as well, but if they're all AOSP/LineageOS based, then can I safely assume they won't support VoLTE either? Or are there any custom ROMs out there for the V30 that DO support VoLTE?
VoWiFi would also be nice
Thanks
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Not for custom ROMs. In fact that's why we created this other thread that by 2022 all U.S. owners of V30 would have to go back to stock ROM -- due to 3G bands (CDMA & HSPA going away and VoLTE being necessary for phone calls with carrier numbers. You can ROOT the stock ROM to still modify stuff, but only stock ROM allows VoLTE.
All U.S. V30/V3O+/V30S will need stock firmware, not LOS-based custom ROMs. When?
All U.S. V30/V3O+/V30S will need stock firmware, not LOS-based custom ROMs. When?
3G CDMA and HSPA is going away. U.S. users will NEED VoLTE and/or Wi-Fi calling for carrier phone calls. V30 LOS-based ROMs do not have that and will never have that.
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I started that thread back in mid-2020 to warn people in plenty of time. AT&T, Verizon and T-Mobile (which includes former Sprint) delayed their timelines a little but still the admonition is true. Users in other countries that still have 3G in addition to LTE can use custom ROMs.
The caveat to that is unless you are using a VoIP phone number (which uses data) -- like Google Voice -- and don't need carrier based phone calls. But most people only use carrier calls.