Just wanna say in the beginning, this is nothing more than a gut feeling.
I have been using many custom roms by different developers running different android versions.
Quite a few months ago, I switched to miui because I was having some issues with than current pie roms, and I wanted a stable system. And I stuck with it till now because I am at home and limited internet. It was noticably slow and janky from the start but I kept using it, because it was stable.
Finally, my patience gave out, and I installed Havoc 3.3 (Android Q by sairam60 ), and it is insanely smooth compared to what I got used to.
Now, let me explain further. My device performs better, charges faster, and pubg performace went from unplayable to bearable. Other thing I noticed, that the device gets somewhat warm and battery drains faster, which is didn't happen on miui. This led me to believe that miui might be throttling the SoC and charging (for some reason).
Or maybe miui is just hopelessly bloated? Or the rom has the soc overclocked or something?
What do you guys think?
That's been the case for a while now and not just limited to land. Its an oft repeated complaint from MIUI users that performance becomes worse with newer updates just after the 1 year mark. Dunno if its deliberate or just plain negligence.
Anyways I would highly recommend Fork LOS 17.1 by Sairam. Its perhaps the most fluid ROM ever for land. Its based on 4.9 kernel so a few quirks can be expected considering it's only a few builds old. Personally I didn't encounter any issue other than RAM usage was a tad high for 2GB variant esp. since LOS is so lightweight usually. Customization is minimal but a few useful extras have been added. Battery backup was pretty good and on par with Havoc 2.9. To be fair the battery in my device is degraded so most ROMs give similar bb.
xEcuTR said:
Just wanna say in the beginning, this is nothing more than a gut feeling.
I have been using many custom roms by different developers running different android versions.
Quite a few months ago, I switched to miui because I was having some issues with than current pie roms, and I wanted a stable system. And I stuck with it till now because I am at home and limited internet. It was noticably slow and janky from the start but I kept using it, because it was stable.
Finally, my patience gave out, and I installed Havoc 3.3 (Android Q by sairam60 ), and it is insanely smooth compared to what I got used to.
Now, let me explain further. My device performs better, charges faster, and pubg performace went from unplayable to bearable. Other thing I noticed, that the device gets somewhat warm and battery drains faster, which is didn't happen on miui. This led me to believe that miui might be throttling the SoC and charging (for some reason).
Or maybe miui is just hopelessly bloated? Or the rom has the soc overclocked or something?
What do you guys think?
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You did the right thing for leaving memeui on this phone,
+ 1 for what the dude above said, fork los 17.1 4.9 sairam or any roms based on it have better performance for pubg/codm gaming, excellent battery life too
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Which would be a better rom for the vibrant? My main preferences are battery, gps and stability. Pro and cons would be good for those who have tried both.
gps identical. the Miui fix is the same as the CM7 fix, Stability pretty much the same, again miui for vibrant uses the cm7 framework for compatability with our phone. Battery... prolly CM7 less shinys less toys. Miui is very aethetic, full of shiny's, transitions, etc. but i still use it as a daily driver and won't be switching till i switch phones.
battery:vote for cm7
gps: no choice because samsung does not work well
I just installed CM 7.1 stable, prior to that I had MiUi for a few days.
MiUi deffinately had better GPS. GPS on MiUi for me worked everytime upon reboot. CM7 the GPS isn't working for me. I'm still tinkering with it.
MiUi also felt faster, smoother and more refined around the edges.
Then again it's late and I'm tired, maybe I'll wake up loving CM tomorrow morning.
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I just installed CM 7.1 stable, prior to that I had MiUi for a few days.
MiUi deffinately had better GPS. GPS on MiUi for me worked everytime upon reboot. CM7 the GPS isn't working for me. I'm still tinkering with it.
MiUi also felt faster, smoother and more refined around the edges.
Then again it's late and I'm tired, maybe I'll wake up loving CM tomorrow morning.
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but battery miui so bad
so it seems like cm's battery is better? that would be a huge plus for me
really depends on what people consider "bad" everyone has there own perspective on battery life. for me working 10 hour shifts 6 days a week. and heavy internet/text usage. i find Miui quite adaquate as a daily driver. maybe talk heavy users drain battery faster? seems odd considering screen is off during calls and screen tends to consume more power then any other piece of hardware in our phones. My opinion is try both. give each a few days to calibrate battery and optimize itself and judge from there. unless your planning on buying a new phone this week you will have time to test each one in length and get a good judge of the pros and cons of each using your personal device. Not all Vibrants are created equal.
As MIUI is built from CM7, they perform virtually the same. CM7 is more for those who like barebones builds which are very true to stock Android, MIUI is more for those who want more things built in and like flashy eye candy... and maybe like iOS's general design...
Not to say MIUI is bad. My girlfriend used it until builds went wacko for her device and her uncle still uses it on his. I use it occasionally too... just right now I prefer CM7. It's all about personal preference.
So as usual, our device has many fantastic ROMs available and before I continue, I wanna thank every awesome developer that takes the time out to work on them and make users that much happier with their SGSIII's.
With that said, I've been trying a few JB AOSP/AOKP ROMS and I wanted to get some user input on two particular ROMs (though you can mention any other ROM as well if you wish).
I've personally really enjoyed using ResurrectionRemix 3.x.x and FoxHound 1.x.
I wanted to know what your experiences have been with these two ROMS (in comparison to eachother). Pros/Cons, general comments, etc...
The things im looking at are Battery Life, Consistent Performance, Buggieness, and overall satisfaction.
Any comments would be appreciated! =D
Thanks!
PS.: Please also mention the kernel u used when running each ROM, for the sake of thouroughness.
I'm using RR and running Siyah latest dual boot 1.7RC kernel
I would like to say that I experience Good battery with WiFi or data On for nearly 12 hours and I could get 15% or less battery left at the end of the day. With heavy usage I forgot. This ROM is very smooth for me and I experience no lag.
I have not tried FH ROM thou.
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I'm using RR and running Siyah latest dual boot 1.7RC kernel
I would like to say that I experience Good battery with WiFi or data On for nearly 12 hours and I could get 15% or less battery left at the end of the day. With heavy usage I forgot. This ROM is very smooth for me and I experience no lag.
I have not tried FH ROM thou.
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Yeah that sounds roughly the same that i've been getting with RR and Siyah 1.7rc1. Although sometimes it would be more like 19 Hours of normal-medium usage, and sometimes it would be 10 hours for same usage. Sometimes it feels a little like it has its own temperaments. lol.
Stefan, I realize you are just asking for user input, but this is basically asking which rom/kernel combo is the best. Which comes down to this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1935514
So is honor 5X running CM13 or any other "lightweight" ROM significantly faster?
I used Nexus 5 for 2,5 years. What a great phone it was.
My usage consists of:
a) endomondo,
b) relay for reddit,
c) browsing teh internet,
No gaming whatsoever.
My N5's power button died (RIP) so I decided to give Honor 5X a shot, since I had opportunity to get it really cheap.
I love the feeling of the phone, the screen and battery life and fingerprint sensor are amazing - even the camera which is mediocre at best by today's standards surpasses the one on my good old N5.
BUT it is so much slower than N5 that it starts to really grind my gears.
When an app is opened, it works just fine - however the speed of changing apps is terrible, EMUI is way too aggressive with RAM management aswell. Waiting 5s for hangouts to load gets annoying really fast.
I currently use Nova Prime with stock OS and other than the speed itself I have no complaints, I really like the phone.
So, my question is: did you notice significant speed increase after flashing CM/alike ROM? Is it worth the hassle for someone who did not do it before?
Thanks in advance.
Yes, I believe that is a noticeable performance increase and is well worth trying out - just make sure you make a full Nandroid backup in case anything goes wrong and then you're safe to do as you please. I don't think it's too much hassle. It's pretty fast for this kind of hardware at this price point, But of course, this isn't a flagship phone like a Nexus so don't expect speeds of that caliber. Overall CM 13 feels buttery smooth to me. I have no issues with it whatsoever. Some people may have issues with XPosed, but so far I have none- your mileage may vary.
The only thing you might miss is the current lack of Fingerprint support - the Devs are aware of this and are working hard at this and are always being harassed about it, haha. Real work on that sensor won't be until the Official Marshmallow release, and it's not even a guarantee since the devs work on this ROM in their spare time. I still give props to crpalmer for providing us with such a nice CM13 for the Honor 5X.
Yes. Former Nexus 5 user as well and I loved that phone to death. CM13 performance on the Honor 5X is comparable to Marshmallow on N5. Very occasional minor hitches and glitches, and the rare crash and reboot, but overall buttery smooth just like the N5 and I am very happy with it. Leaps and bounds better than EMUI.
Biggest improvement is multitasking in my opinion. The EMUI Task switcher is glitchy and clunky and as soon as you start flying back and forth between apps on the recent screen in CM13 it will hit you how slow and limiting EMUI has been.
yes, I am running parallel shifts on SlimROM by @jsbeyond and the default EMUI (rooted and debloated), and the difference is quite telling! It almost seems like a competent athlete speeding away to the racing line while running Slim, while on EMUI it runs like an injured confused directionless bum. Only thing I miss from EMUI is the camera app
Like @mtmv2 said, multi tasking and fluidity is where you will feel most of the difference. I personally felt that the audio output (speakers) on Slim is also way less muffled than in EMUI. I use V4A as well, on both, so I am sure of the difference in audio with the same V4A profiles running in both environments. Battery on Slim is more controllable for drain, privacy protection, boot apps control etc is way better. Best of all is the battery saver, that stops the auto-sync only and helps battery last longer unlike in the EMUI which turns the phone into a 1990s sort of device with call and paging functions the moment you pick "battery saving mode"! Least said the better, but Slim restores all the android dignity of icons and animations compared to the toyish, immature, wannabe UI of the OEM.
so i know that this phone is 4 years old. but in 2016/2017 it had a high end cpu/4gb ram(even today it has a higher antutu scores than lots of newers models). yet it feels so laggy to work on after some use, mine still has stock android. but i feel like when swaping between apps, or using them , it just feels crappy. also the phonebook behave weird, can't add phone numbers cause i get this thing ''phonebook stoped working'' , and almost all my contacts dissapeared like i deleted them. i'm not the type of person that changes phones every year,i had mine 3 years now. but i think i'm just gonna give up on this phone, and get something that gets software updates
Things get corrupted after a while, apps you've installed running in background hogging resourses, etc. Do a factory reset, or better still, flash a recent Anroid 9 or 10 rom. This phone still flies on the right rom.
Heyyo, yeah depending on your build of EUI ROM? It'll suck. Anything prior to 19s is definitely garbage. X821 19s was pretty good and same with x829 20s or x820 30s (albeit with ads). The best way to experience EUI ROM is CrisBalGreece modified versions.
Otherwise? I highly recommend custom ROMs. We have a lot of great Android 9 ROMs and Android 10 is pretty decent albeit with more bugs.
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so i know that this phone is 4 years old. but in 2016/2017 it had a high end cpu/4gb ram(even today it has a higher antutu scores than lots of newers models). yet it feels so laggy to work on after some use, mine still has stock android. but i feel like when swaping between apps, or using them , it just feels crappy. also the phonebook behave weird, can't add phone numbers cause i get this thing ''phonebook stoped working'' , and almost all my contacts dissapeared like i deleted them. i'm not the type of person that changes phones every year,i had mine 3 years now. but i think i'm just gonna give up on this phone, and get something that gets software updates
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It simply because the chipset it is using is a "bad" one..... You can see this with every Snapdragon 820 and 821 phones(Zuk Z2, Google Pixel 1(OG) etc) ... They heat up and throttle down easily = lag... on paper the 82x should be able to outperform a SD625 any day but not so in real life.... with custom ROM they are much more manageable... I think you should definitely be fine with custom ROM unless you are planning on gaming on it...
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It simply because the chipset it is using is a "bad" one..... You can see this with every Snapdragon 820 and 821 phones(Zuk Z2, Google Pixel 1(OG) etc) ... They heat up and throttle down easily = lag... on paper the 82x should be able to outperform a SD625 any day but not so in real life.... with custom ROM they are much more manageable... I think you should definitely be fine with custom ROM unless you are planning on gaming on it...
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so was the snapdragon 820 bad on all phones models not only the cheap chinese ones like i thought,only if i knew this when i bought it... to be honest, i took my abandoned xperia z3 compact from the drawer..and it moved more smoothly. indeed, i think this phone has some overheating issues.what rom do you recommend,should i stick to EUI, not a fan really to the stock eui i got,full of bugs. i have just rooted my phone now and i'm ready to instal other ROM . but there are so many options. looking at android 9 or 10 but so many variants available. i just want it to run smoothly. also , do i have to update the firmware version via twrp? i have the stock one. anyway i think i have the indian version, and the linegeOS android 10 version i wanted to install seems like it doesn't support this mode(only CN on the x820) looking at aosp 9.0 now
popoyaya said:
Things get corrupted after a while, apps you've installed running in background hogging resourses, etc. Do a factory reset, or better still, flash a recent Anroid 9 or 10 rom. This phone still flies on the right rom.
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what rom variant do you recommend? also are android 10 version stable enough or should i flash older android 9?
bluehillday said:
so was the snapdragon 820 bad on all phones models not only the cheap chinese ones like i thought,only if i knew this when i bought it... to be honest, i took my abandoned xperia z3 compact from the drawer..and it moved more smoothly. indeed, i think this phone has some overheating issues.what rom do you recommend,should i stick to EUI, not a fan really to the stock eui i got,full of bugs. i have just rooted my phone now and i'm ready to instal other ROM . but there are so many options. looking at android 9 or 10 but so many variants available. i just want it to run smoothly. also , do i have to update the firmware version via twrp? i have the stock one. anyway i think i have the indian version, and the linegeOS android 10 version i wanted to install seems like it doesn't support this mode(only CN on the x820) looking at aosp 9.0 now
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The Xperia Z3 Compact are Snapdragon 801.... Those were great... on paper SD820 or 821 should be miles ahead in performance compared to 801 or 800... but IRL on most of the phones they usually suck... (I did saw someone swear that his Oneplus 3 ran great after getting angry because I said SD820 821 are bad chipsets... then again Oneplus 3/3T probably have a much bigger ROM community both dev and user wise)
unfortunately I also just recently took my Le Max 2 from the drawer and started fiddling with these new android 9/10 roms, I can't give much advice... I'm currently on Android 9 Lineage it's pretty stable.
Generally, you'd want custom ROM so you can remove the bloatware, install a custom kernel so you can use a kernel that better manage the chipset(battery or usagewise) and a config that might suit your usage...CMIIW
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The Xperia Z3 Compact are Snapdragon 801.... Those were great... on paper SD820 or 821 should be miles ahead in performance compared to 801 or 800... but IRL on most of the phones they usually suck... (I did saw someone swear that his Oneplus 3 ran great after getting angry because I said SD820 821 are bad chipsets... then again Oneplus 3/3T probably have a much bigger ROM community both dev and user wise)
unfortunately I also just recently took my Le Max 2 from the drawer and started fiddling with these new android 9/10 roms, I can't give much advice... I'm currently on Android 9 Lineage it's pretty stable.
Generally, you'd want custom ROM so you can remove the bloatware, install a custom kernel so you can use a kernel that better manage the chipset(battery or usagewise) and a config that might suit your usage...CMIIW
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so today i have instaled the first time a custom ROM,after struggling with twrp for 2hours . i have instaled AospExtended ROM V6.0 [X2] (adroid PIE) . it move more smoothly for sure,but not sure it moves this way beucase it's just a fresh rom..will way some weeks to see if it keeps up.
and about instaling a custom kerne . isn't that coming instaled with the ROM?
I have my device for nearly two years, and I am using eui 6.0.30s CBG cleaned edition since last year... I never face any kind of lag or bug except the lag caused by power save mod, which automatically enables itself when the battery goes down under %5. I think full wipe+reinstall firmware would be a great solution for you.
Heyyo, I definitely don't agree that 820/821 is bad lol... That's ridiculous. It's true that back in 2016 no one cared about proper cooling for the SoC though. I've seen people mod their x2 and zl1/0's with thermal pads or non-conductive thermal paste and get a heck of a lot better thermal management for just a few pennies of extra cooling.
On any pie or Q ROM though, we do have tuned thermal-engine.conf by Shiva which helps quite a bit and also allows for better sustained performance too which also performs a lot better than EUI ROM which focuses more on lower temperatures than balancing thermals and performance.
Anywho, yeah, if you're upset with performance of EUI ROM? I'd definitely recommend a custom ROM. Anything on pie that's actively maintained is a good idea.
Android 10 ROMs still sometimes have performance stutters for now... So hopefully later on it'll work better, so that's why I recommend for now sticking with pie.
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Heyyo, I definitely don't agree that 820/821 is bad lol... That's ridiculous. It's true that back in 2016 no one cared about proper cooling for the SoC though. I've seen people mod their x2 and zl1/0's with thermal pads or non-conductive thermal paste and get a heck of a lot better thermal management for just a few pennies of extra cooling.
On any pie or Q ROM though, we do have tuned thermal-engine.conf by Shiva which helps quite a bit and also allows for better sustained performance too which also performs a lot better than EUI ROM which focuses more on lower temperatures than balancing thermals and performance.
Anywho, yeah, if you're upset with performance of EUI ROM? I'd definitely recommend a custom ROM. Anything on pie that's actively maintained is a good idea.
Android 10 ROMs still sometimes have performance stutters for now... So hopefully later on it'll work better, so that's why I recommend for now sticking with pie.
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dude.. people mod their x2 and zl1/0's with thermal pads or non-conductive thermal paste and get a heck of a lot better thermal management for just a few pennies of extra cooling. .. I never had to do that on SD800/801 phones lol...
since you are very determined that its not a bad phone , I'm taking out my Le Max 2 a second time .... hehe... I occasionally play Mobile Legends.. any other tips you can give?
Nexus 5 was SD800 and was known for overheating issues
https://www.technobezz.com/fix-overheating-problem-nexus-5/
Like I said, the main thing would be to switch to a custom ROM that has Android Pie and is decently updated. Most of those pie custom ROMs will have pretty decent thermals while still delivering decent performance.
Hello, I currently have Pixel Experience 9 and I am looking for a rom that is quite fluid, consumes little battery and everything works well.
Which one do you recommend me to try?
I don't have much time to try several ... that's why I'm asking you.
Pixel Experience 10 or 10+ (some extra features to the base PE10). It is according to my experience of 1+ years of usage of PE rom (and trying other ROMs in between), they are stable, fluid, and battery performs well under the default kernel.
Give Oxygen OS 10.3.6 a try. Battery backup and performance so good. Only issue I had with this rom is low in-call volume.
Today i'm on Bliss Rom + Stealth Kernel, i don't know any issue, all works for me. Much smooths and great battery backup. V4A works fine too.
Bliss has call rec.
Pity the build vanilla version is discotinued, else would perfect.
Havoc Q is rock solid (unlike its name), fluid and gives me decent battery, even for a 2+ year phone. 10/10 would recommend.