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I am due for an upgrade later this month. I am an Android user of phones & tablets for more than 3 years so i am very used to the OS with its massive customisations, etc. But i have been noticing in the background that Windows Phone 8 is slowly gaining fans and i would like to know why. I'd like to convince myself. In particular i'm interested with the Lumia 920 and the newer 925/928 model:
1. Does the Lumia have a Bluetooth feature that can connect to any Bluetooth wireless speakers? And can one send files via bluetooth to any bluetooth-enabled Android phone?
2. Does the Lumia have a quick toggle to settings to instantly turn on or off settings such as wifi, Bluetooth, brightness, etc. (much like the notification drop down bar of Android)
3. Is there a customisable equaliser settings to the new Lumias? Surround sound? Bass? Preset EQ settings?
4. Can I set a Playlist, edit a Playlist name and set songs to a Playlist on-the-fly? If no then what app can do that?
5. Can I drag n drop files from my Mac to a Lumia with a need or no need of another software?
6. Can I still access my Google apps & services such as YouTube, Gmail, Maps, Currents, Chrome, etc.?
7. Is there a pinch to zoom feature in zooming objects for taking photos? Is there an option to easily share them via Email, Bluetooth, Twitter, Instagram, Dropbox, etc.? A way to set photos as a phones's lockscreen wallpaper? A way to edit photos and share them? if so which app do i need?
8. Any "swype to type" typing feature? (For faster typing)
9. Any good alternatives music player, video player for the Lumia?
10. Notification Centre - is it true that one can view a notification (from email, Twiiter, Facebook, etc.) on the lock screen? And how do i "access" or see my notification? Do i swype or just click it?
11. Is there a unified & a fully customomisable news app similar to Google Currents?
12. Sideloading apps - is this possible with WP8? Is there an alternative app store other than WP8's?
Android has tons of alternative/3rd-party app stores where one can look, download & install .apk files on almost any device available out there. Is this also possible with WP8?
13. Would the copy & paste capability be possible in almost anywhere ON THE device itself? How do i copy & paste btw?
14. A way to set Google as a default search option?
15. Software updates - found this "1308" update but it would seem there is the newer "1314" update. What's the real deal? Is it true the 1308 update vastly improved the camera's features and the battery life? ('cause i can't see that info on the website) And how often would those "minor" updates be like performance updates, battery life improvements, new features, etc.
16. Any good note-taking app?
17. How does one go back to view last viewed sites on IE10? Is it any way possible to save them on the hard drive of the phone so i can view them again & again?
18. A way or possibility to print wirelessly to a bluetooth wireless wifi printer?
19. Can one create folders (like a folder for Games, News apps, etc.) like in Android?
20. A very good .pdf viewer please?
21. Can i easily edit a Contact's name, phone number, details, etc.?
22. Can i set a Calendar event or note?
23. Is there a way to edit or change the tile icons on the "main" home screen?
24. Does the camera of the Lumias (in particular the 920) is BSI and HDR features?
Again, read of reviews that the camera is good but photos can sometimes be "washed out" and looks blurry when zoomed in.
25. Screenshots - With Android there is a way to take a screenshot of your phone's current screen. IS this possible with WP8? If yes then how?
26. A good alternative to Google Maps where i can check for transport updates and how to get from point A to B or how to find nearby shops or restaurants?
27. How often does Nokia or MS updates their phones?
28. The battery is only 2000mAh which compare to Android or iPhones is very tiny. How long does the phone lasts for Music? Video? Moderate use?
Please advice. Thanks.
1. yes
2. yes but via apps from market (Windows Store)
3. no but Lumia have equalizer setting and Dolby headphone settings
4. yes and no... you can add songs to playlist and you can with WP app for PC/mac you can make playlist but few things missing
5. yes
6. yes with IE or apps from Market, you cant have other browser, only IE (or Nokia Xpress Browser), maps also with IE or with other app (gMaps for example)
7. yes. yes (direct and also with apps from Market. yes. yes. in most case is enough Nokia apps but if you need more just search market or use App Highlights to suggest you apps
8. yes. WP keyboard is rudimentary but you can swipe with finger to type
9. no. in reality, all players from Market is only shell to original windows player...
10. when notification come, is shown short time in top of screen and if you click it, open it... if you dont click, notification closes and shown on lock screen (wallpaper all missed notification with icon and number)
11. is tons of many apps in Market, i dont use it but think no problem to find right one
12. yes and no.... can sideload but only original apps downloaded from Windows Store and loaded from SDcard if Lumia have SDcard slot. No other alternative stores. WP is most secure OS and in 2 and half year no any type of malware or viruses found on Windows Store because this restrictions
13. copy paste working, just select text and select copy icon, same with paste...
14. yes, in IE settings
15. 1308 is latest, 1314 is only AT&T update and not available for others...
16. a lot of them in market...
17. you can go back and you can bookmark but no save page option
18. not tried but think no...
19. you can create folders, anything like normal storage when connect via USB
20. official is good also others in Market
21. yes, on phone or on Live account on web http://mail.live.com/?rru=contacts
22. yes
23. yes and no... in basically you cant change tiles but also apps on market which can you make own style tiles and give him options
24. yes... Nokia 920 make great pictures...
25. yes, press windows button and power button... and this working where you want (apps, games, settings)
26. Here apps from nokia gives you most good navigation, travel and exploration features completely free with Maps, Drive, City Lens, Transit apps
27. booth... Nokia almost every week give new updates and improvements for their apps and settings
28. in normal use two day, less use 3 days for me (but i turned off many apps from working in background)... for music one day or little more is normal... all depend how many you use and set options in your phone. and newer let battery to discharged... this an brick phone... wireless charging is great thing, and if you can, get original Nokia plate for charging.
many of this answers is here
http://www.windowsphone.com/en-us/how-to/wp8
I'm not looking for a Nokia Android phone here. Sure some questions i have been asking were"asked" before that is why i had to slightly change as to how i ask a specific question.
So far i like some of the replies in here. Very interesting OS compared to Android or IOS. For me one way to really know if i like a phone is to go to a shop. Which i've done today.
I went to an O2 store and saw the Lumia 920 & the 925. Both headphone jack were closed as i wanted to try out the vaunted Dolby headphones sound enhancement. The sales rep explained that he cannot do something about anything as he seem to suggest the brackets around the phone that covers the headphone jack is to "prevent the phones getting stolen". Jeez. An early turn off so i went to an EE shop instead.
EE had a working Lumia 920 so went to try it out. Camera seems slightly better than my S3 but noticed there were very few settings to dabble. Wasn't very much convinced with the Dolby sound enhancement (GSMArena were right after all); I wasn't sure if the software of the unit i was given was updated but i was using a mid-range 2-month old Sony earphones i must say. Even after changing the EQ to Custom sound was still somehow "flat" and lacking personality. Was able to try send a file from my S3 to the 920 with a bit of ease although it took about a minute which by todays' standards isn't great but isn't bad either.
What i still don't like:
1. Lack of an alternative app store
2. Lack of alternative browser
3. Lack of a really good altenrative music player with my above needs
4. Lack of .mkv and .srt support in video player
5. Slowness in transferring files via bluetooth
6. The need for a software in order to transfer files. Although someone did menttioned i can just copy & paste files and put them in a folder.
7. Uninspiring and seemingly flat audio/music quality when headphones are connected (even with Dolby On)
8. Non-removable & "low capacity" battery
9. Small 4.5" screen
10. Lack of or the inability to print to a wireless printer
11. Inability (?) for the phone to act as a wifi hotspot
12. Lack of swiping action for faster typing on keyboard
13. Inability to set Google as a search option
14. Inability to save a webpage as a .pdf file for future viewing
15. Few camera options & settings
16. No ability to edit a photo within OS/device
17. Inability to create folders tiles (for quick access to apps)
What also bothered me when i was in the EE shop was what the sales rep told me. She said that many people have been returning their Lumia 920s (i.e. rate of Lumias being returned were MANY!) for repair because of various problems such as bad incoming/outgoing call quality, screen issues and rebooting/crashing issues. She also bluntly advised me to get a Galaxy S4 or the HTC One instead.
Doesn't help with building up confidence does it?
Only the AT&T version allows you to tether and have up to 5 devices connected to it. But you have to have the second tier data package. Yes you can print to a wireless printer over WiFi (maybe another AT&T exclusive). It uses windows for godsake. If a PC can do it, this phone can do it. As for camera settings. It's a phone. If you want camera settings, then get a camera.
All app can be made into a tile simply by tapping and holding until the menu pops up to pin to desktop. The the file can be resized and positioned as you want it.
Google as a search option? Just make it your browser homepage. So what if it is just one more click. Has society really become this lazy?
That small screen is IPS and blows away all the other phones out there regardless of size. Also the gorilla glass is near diamond hard. Ok exaggeration but it is much harder than any other display out there.
You must have missed the edit photo option. You can cut, crop, change colors, and all kinds of edit options. Maybe that is another AT&T only feature.
My low capacity battery last 12 hours under full load and recharges in two with the wireless charger. Not sure what you want, but it is a computer in your pocket and you will not get phone life out of the battery.
Saving a webpage as a PDF. an Andy will not do that by default. So just wait for an app to be made. Or hey just bookmark it and view it over wifi.
There are alternative app stores for WP8. you just have to get into the right click. They are not made public since MS would shut them down.
There are three browsers that are free on the app store and six more you can pay for.
Did you even really try this out yourself or just let others opinions sway you like a typical sheeple? You know the site you keep referring to is biased against WP and MS products. So of course they will give this phone a negative review.
I am sorry to sound harsh but you tried one version from one provider. They are different. There are at this moment three types of 920 out there. The AT&T, The Rogers, and the all others. Each have some variations in functions and quality. As well as variations in the OS.
You also don't need software to transfer files. Not sure where you got that from but if the phone is plugged into a PC it behaves just like a USB drive and can be explored by windows explorer and you just drag and drop files just like another hard drive.
Bluetooth for file transfer is old school and slow. The S3 as well as the Lumia has a tap to send feature that when both phones are near each other you just select a file, select tap to send, find the other phone in the list and tap it. The other phone if feature is turned on will acknowledge a waiting file. You confirm it and it transfers over the TTS network between the phones. Faster than BT by the way.
There are several MKV players in the store, but they are not free.
I'm sorry but it just sounds like you are picking the phone apart and trying to convince yourself not to get one. If you are happy with Andy then the Lumia is not for you just to be blunt. Most Lumia users are tired of Andy or iPhone and that is why they switched. You will not get the customization of Andy with this phone. What you will get is a good rugged phone that has an OS that runs it like it should with minimal apps to perform most day to day things. You will get a camera that rivals lower end SLR's in quality even if it does not have all the bells and whistles. Yes there are SLR users here who have compared the pic quality and in some case it was better on this phone. You will get an OS that runs smoothly and fast and again does what it should. I will say it one last time. If you are happy with Andy or iPhone then this phone is not for you. This phone is a first phone, or a phone for those tired of the cookie cutter phones/OS's out there.
I do not think GSMArena is "biased" to WP & MS products. Why would they? Please enlighten me. The reason they have "negative" reviews of the Lumias is because its the truth i suppose. And the truth sometimes hurts isn't it?
And you might also ask yourself: why would the sales person be biased in saying the rate of returns is enormous because of such & such issues? Please enlighten me. Of all shops i went to (O2, EE & Carphone Warehouse) most of them sell (YES) Android phones (as many companies make Android phones...duh!), iPhones AND Windows phone 8 phones.
Again, let me ask (and challenge you)...why would the sales person be biased? I don't think its because they use Android phones most of the times. I simply don't think so. These people are trained to use and be familiar with ALL types of phones. The only reason i could think of is their reputation. Many returns (for repairs or otherwise) will ultimately have a negative effect on them.
I also heard of incompatibility with the EE network. If the phone is 4G-ready/capable it shouldn't be a compatibility issue. Its the issue of the maker of the phone (and OS) itself isn't it? If the phone is not up to what it can do or is capable of doing then i would rather go for a tried and tested and familiar phone & OS that is Android. I'm aware some companies release different versions of their phones depending on the country/market but still that doesn't help at all.
Also, the trouble with these shops is their phones are most of the times not updated so the software & other improvements are not there for you to experience. The headphone jack might be "locked" by the braces holding the phone or the phone isn't charged at all. Its a lose-lose situation.
Look i am not looking for a perfect Nokia Android phone as i will not find one. I know its either Windows Phone 8 or Android OS.
I made myself clear on my previous reply about my experience in the phone shops and the negative things i have known and read.
If i get the Lumia 920 right now on a 24-month contract with EE will they allow me to return the phone simply because "im not happy with it"? I guess we all know the answer to these question. All they care about is getting money from you and that's it.
Doesn't inspire confidence does it?
I know AT&T gives you a 14 day return period even on a 24 month contract. If you go beyond 14 days then they hit you with the phones full price if you break contract. The issue is not the phone, with 4G. 4G from provider to provider is on different frequencies. This phone like all others only supports 4G and LTE on certain frequencies. If your provider does not support those frequencies then there is nothing that you nor Nokia can do. You need to bust your providers balls to support the other frequencies as well. Good luck on that though since they will just tell you to use a phone they provide. If you want the Lumia to function 100% then you have to buy it from a provider who supports it and use their network. Buying it and trying to use it on a network that it was not intended for will result in fail most of the time. Or the very least a lot of flashing and tweaking and still may not be 100%.
I will say it again. If you like Android and are happy with it then stay with it. To me it sounds like you have already decided against this phone anyways. You Are not going to get somebody in a Lumia forum to flat out tell you not to buy it. So if you are looking for somebody to confirm your feelings you won't get it here. The bottom line is that this phone is not for somebody who is happy with their current OS. This phone is a phone for those just starting or those just fed up with the other stuff out there.
Well thank you all for your replies and insights.
If i get a Windows Phone 8 phone right now i feel it is a way backward not forward. I'm familiar with Android OS so i think i'll stick it out with them.
I've got this issue where incoming calls and texts are not matching to the contacts database when the international format is used (so incoming 01202 123456 matches if the number is stored in the phone book as 01202 123456 but not if it's +441202 123456)
Seems it's quite common with ROMs / Phones from China.
My phone is a Cube 5H A5300 (a remarkably good bit of kit for the money if I could fix this dam issue) , Android 4.2.1, and MIUI 3.11.15. I don't think this is a MIUI issue hence posting here.
I've been through the suggestions that seemed to offer the best chance of a fix :-
Changing the MIN_MATCH in framework.jar and MMS.apk, and checking that strict comparison if odd from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2268120
Adding ro.phone.min_match=7 to build.prop from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1160343
Various other suggestions relating to stuff in settings.
So I'm at a lost to know where to go next.
Anyone got any suggestions about where number matching is handled in Android? Where can I look for places to check ?
John
Exactly the same problem, also UK
Incoming calls show up in the format 07785 nnnnnn but my phone book has the numbers stored in +44 7785 nnnnnn format, with the result incoming calls only show the number and not the detail in my contacts/people.
I also tried ro.phone.min_match= using 9 and 7 as variables but it made no difference
I have the THL W8s running Android 4.2.1
Brilliant phone but his bug is killing it for me.
Really look forward to a solution
I found the solution for bog standard Android devices, I have a THL W8s running 4.2.1 but it should work on Androids 4.1.x / 4.2.x / 4.3.x according to the threads below.
No credit to me, all down to the guys on XDA, but as a bit of novice it took me ages to trawl all the posts on this subject before finally finding the solution that worked - and easily. It will also avoid you installing lots of apps of playstore that for me anyway either didn't work or gave a poor hack of a work around. In addition, this solution provides a whole host of other fixes and enhancement, brilliant piece of work from the two developers.
Start by removing all your contacts, either export/delete from People to re-import or as in my case delete the corporate email/contacts account
Tip: Reboot after almost every step
1) Your device must be rooted
2) You must be able to install apps direct from your phone: System Settings / Security / Unknown Sources (Unknown Sources may be in a different place)
Then the heart of it:
Install the Xposed Framework
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1574401
Full instructions in the thread
Then install GravityBox it's not the a ROM, just the Xposed Framework Module
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2316070
Again, full instructions in the thread (Make sure you have a tick next to Gravity Box in the Xposed Framework and reboot)
Then: GravityBox -> General Fixes -> Fix Caller ID
Reboot, re-add or re-import your email/contacts, either add the account or import from contacts and there you go, fixed.
Here's one that didn't work for me but may be worth a try if your version of Android isn't supported with the above solution:
Search on: ro.phone.min_match= where you put a 9, 8, 7 etc after the =
I used ES File Explorer to mount /system R/W and edit the build.prop file, but as I said, after ages of hacking around to get the fix in it didn't work for me.
BTW: I bought the THL W8s after busting my HTC One and not wanting to shell out too much to replace it. All-in-all I'm very impressed with my cheap Chinese Android phone (£155 on eBay), and now that this bug is fixed I'm really chuffed with it. The dual sim/dual standby function saves me carrying two phones, another bonus.
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Thx for posting this, but didn't work for me. Hope it works for others as this is a great bunch of apps.
I'm wondering if my issue is related to the phone (Cube 5H which is a MTK6589 product) or the MIUI ROMs. I'm getting to the point where I think I might need to give up and get a different phone, but I feel the same way about this phone as you do aout the THL - if I could fix this issue it would be a great value for money phone
whalesg said:
I found the solution for bog standard Android devices, I have a THL W8s running 4.2.1 but it should work on Androids 4.1.x / 4.2.x / 4.3.x according to the threads below.
No credit to me, all down to the guys on XDA, but as a bit of novice it took me ages to trawl all the posts on this subject before finally finding the solution that worked - and easily. It will also avoid you installing lots of apps of playstore that for me anyway either didn't work or gave a poor hack of a work around. In addition, this solution provides a whole host of other fixes and enhancement, brilliant piece of work from the two developers.
Start by removing all your contacts, either export/delete from People to re-import or as in my case delete the corporate email/contacts account
Tip: Reboot after almost every step
1) Your device must be rooted
2) You must be able to install apps direct from your phone: System Settings / Security / Unknown Sources (Unknown Sources may be in a different place)
Then the heart of it:
Install the Xposed Framework
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1574401
Full instructions in the thread
Then install GravityBox it's not the a ROM, just the Xposed Framework Module
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2316070
Again, full instructions in the thread (Make sure you have a tick next to Gravity Box in the Xposed Framework and reboot)
Then: GravityBox -> General Fixes -> Fix Caller ID
Reboot, re-add or re-import your email/contacts, either add the account or import from contacts and there you go, fixed.
Here's one that didn't work for me but may be worth a try if your version of Android isn't supported with the above solution:
Search on: ro.phone.min_match= where you put a 9, 8, 7 etc after the =
I used ES File Explorer to mount /system R/W and edit the build.prop file, but as I said, after ages of hacking around to get the fix in it didn't work for me.
BTW: I bought the THL W8s after busting my HTC One and not wanting to shell out too much to replace it. All-in-all I'm very impressed with my cheap Chinese Android phone (£155 on eBay), and now that this bug is fixed I'm really chuffed with it. The dual sim/dual standby function saves me carrying two phones, another bonus.
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I'm surprised because the Garvity Box solution was designed around the MT6589 products (I think I read somewhere), my phone is MT6589T.
I did read somewhere that the solution wouldn't work on highly customized ROMs and I think that included MUI. Did the phone come with MUI factory installed, if there is a standard AOSP build for your phone it is probably worth a try using that.
Pity, I nearly threw a party when it worked for me, I'd been hacking around for days.
The phone doesn't come with a full MIUI ROM, just the "themes" part of it. But I really wanted to give MIUI a shot hence me putting the whole ROM on. Good point though - I've been toying with putting the original build back on to see if it fixes the issue. Then I'll know if it's a phone thing or a MIUI thing.
Glas you got yours going though. I crossing my fingers for that party moment!
whalesg said:
I'm surprised because the Garvity Box solution was designed around the MT6589 products (I think I read somewhere), my phone is MT6589T.
I did read somewhere that the solution wouldn't work on highly customized ROMs and I think that included MUI. Did the phone come with MUI factory installed, if there is a standard AOSP build for your phone it is probably worth a try using that.
Pity, I nearly threw a party when it worked for me, I'd been hacking around for days.
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Strangely - just noticed that numbers in "recent" are now being listed with the correct name matched to the phone book. If I turn off Gravity Box this stops happening, so Gravity Box is having some affect. Just a shame it's not on incoming calls.
johnhelliwell said:
Thx for posting this, but didn't work for me. Hope it works for others as this is a great bunch of apps.
I'm wondering if my issue is related to the phone (Cube 5H which is a MTK6589 product) or the MIUI ROMs. I'm getting to the point where I think I might need to give up and get a different phone, but I feel the same way about this phone as you do aout the THL - if I could fix this issue it would be a great value for money phone
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Hi guys!
I'm working on a Car PC software and I'm looking for contributors. You can find the project on github: https://github.com/viktorgino/headunit-desktop
More about the project:
HeadUnit Desktop is a based free and open source software that is intended to be run on computers built into cars. This software is currently under active development and lot of the features are experimental. As of now there are three main features:
Media player with a media library and media scanner
Android Auto™ client
DAB radio (integrating welle.io)
Proposed features:
FM radio
CAN bus sniffer with a customizable profile for each car.
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Some screenshots of the GUI: http://imgur.com/a/pnrpy
And a screen recording: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26EYhQuH-Xs
I'm using the C++ and Qt for this project, the front end is QML.
If you are interested in helping with this project, then PM me here, hit me up on Gitter https://gitter.im/headunit-desktop or drop me an email on [email protected]
Pretty excited about this, wish I could help
very interesting project today I try it on my p9 lite. any help files regarding steering wheel controls and buttons?
This is exactly the type of experience that I was looking for, something that allows AA but also maintains AM/FM radio so this can be used as a replacement to the current stereo.
I've been trying to get this installed, but running into some issues in the instructions.
I have the PI all setup, and now following the instructions here:
I'm stuck on this step:
After you’ve installed Qt add the lib folder its installed in to the library load path, the bin folder to your PATH and the lib/pkgconfig folder to the pkg-config path.
I'm not really sure what it's telling me to do here or how to do it.
Can anyone help?
So i got this up and running, this has a lot of potential.
Hopefully development of it can continue soon.
I have a few questions I'm hoping someone can answer.
Questions on current build
1. How is the progress for the FM radio going? Do you know what hardware requirements will be to use AM/FM?
This was the biggest draw to me, to allow me to use this as a replacement to a standard head unit.
2. With Android Audio, when I push the button to go into AA mode. When I plug my phone in, nothing happens? I have AA installed on my phone and it works on other devices.
3. I have a red box at the bottom of the screen that says 'no valid device found use Null device instead.'
What is this trying to tell me? Message is there regardless if phone is plugged in or not.
4. How do you enable the bluetooth so it can connect to the phone contacts etc?
Features I would like to see:
1. Customization navigation bar.
This will be going in an older car, with old fashion lever type heater controls, so I really don't need the climate control button on the screen. Be nice to be able to swap that out for something else.
Also I don't think DAB radio is available in the US, so that would be another one that I would like to remove. Any plans on HD radio for those in the US?
2. Will this support wireless AA at some point?
3. Suppress the Pi Login/Password screen on boot. It seems if you wait about 20 seconds it skips over it automatically. Would be nice in the settings if there was a way to turn that on/off.
So I think this is almost exactly what I have been looking for as a carpc setup, but I had a couple of questions/suggestions. It would be great if you could customize the "action menu" on the right to open other apps that are installed on the system. Like chrisfromwa said above, I have an older car and have no need for the A/C controls, but would I do have an aftermarket fuel injection system and have tuning software currently running on my Raspberry Pi that I would like to be able to open from the "desktop" environment. Also, while I realize that you can do mapping through Android Auto, it would be great if you could launch a navigation system that is installed on the Pi itself like Navit. That way I could have fully offline maps and navigation via a USB GPS dongle and not have to worry about my phone having a signal to have mapping info.
Ultimately I'm really just looking for a "launcher" of sorts that can do FM radio, navigation, and open my tuning app, but that has a nice interface that is easy to use in a car with the 7" touchscreen I have. This is one of the most promising I have seen and would love it if it could launch other apps from the main screen.
i would like to ask a question, and please know that i mean ABSOLUTELY no disrespect by this, but why build one? I ask because there are many head units that are double din, touchscreen, can play darn near every file known to man, have android auto, can interface easily with your car itself, much less the steering wheel controls (cheap interface built with the molex plugs needed for plug-n-play use. Again, i mean no disrespect as i tried doing this a few years back. I gave up because to do it properly, i found that i would have to pretty much rewrite the kernel so that it could idle when necessary and go into full-on ready in seconds vs a full boot every time. Creating an output section thats worth a damn would also prove to be expensive, which is what inexorably led me back to the pioneers, kenwoods etc etc etc of the world. I guess if youre wanting full, unrestricted access to what android has to offer while driving, that would explain it then. But you can also achieve this with some automated processes in your phone to lie to the deck and tell it that youre not moving etc etc. Anyways, just curious of your reasoning for doing this
Youdoofus said:
i would like to ask a question, and please know that i mean ABSOLUTELY no disrespect by this, but why build one? I ask because there are many head units that are double din, touchscreen, can play darn near every file known to man, have android auto, can interface easily with your car itself, much less the steering wheel controls (cheap interface built with the molex plugs needed for plug-n-play use. Again, i mean no disrespect as i tried doing this a few years back. I gave up because to do it properly, i found that i would have to pretty much rewrite the kernel so that it could idle when necessary and go into full-on ready in seconds vs a full boot every time. Creating an output section thats worth a damn would also prove to be expensive, which is what inexorably led me back to the pioneers, kenwoods etc etc etc of the world. I guess if youre wanting full, unrestricted access to what android has to offer while driving, that would explain it then. But you can also achieve this with some automated processes in your phone to lie to the deck and tell it that youre not moving etc etc. Anyways, just curious of your reasoning for doing this
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I've built my own and after you see so many people having issues with their official head units, it is nice to know that you have the control and aren't at the mercy of a car manufacturer or company. Also, I can use it to play retro games and more. Plus I have a unique dashboard that I have helped design in some ways. Honestly I've tried this project and while it was heading in a good direction there wasn't enough for me to use it as it is currently. I have something else and don't have to pay for like Openauto pro. It's called OpenDash and while it functions as is, it is continuously adding functionality and customizations that you can't find in anything commercial.
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I've built my own and after you see so many people having issues with their official head units, it is nice to know that you have the control and aren't at the mercy of a car manufacturer or company. Also, I can use it to play retro games and more. Plus I have a unique dashboard that I have helped design in some ways. Honestly I've tried this project and while it was heading in a good direction there wasn't enough for me to use it as it is currently. I have something else and don't have to pay for like Openauto pro. It's called OpenDash and while it functions as is, it is continuously adding functionality and customizations that you can't find in anything commercial.
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Right on. What model car?
Hey, so I posted this in general, but think it may have been the wrong spot.
Anyway, I recently acquired a Will.i.am iAm+ Puls, and want to see if I can load full android on it (it's currently running a forked version of 4.1). It's an awful product, but heck figured it might be fun to try to load full android on it or even android wear and see what I can do. Problem is, it does not look like it has any USB connectivity, so would need some suggestion on how to load it on another way. If anyone knows of any way to that would be great! I'm debating trying to open up the device too (need to get a jewelers screwdriver) and see if there is some form of internal access.
If anyone could provide any guidance that would be great.
For the curious here's some specs (I assume I'd have to make custom build too?):
1.7-inch PMOLED Display
dual core 1.5GHz Qualcomm Snapdragon
1GB RAM
16GB of storage
GSM 3G
WiFi
Bluetooth 4.0
GPS
pedometer/accelerometer (not actually sure if it has it.. isn't surfaced in UI)
Did you get anywhere with this? I have a Dial+ which I think is quite similar. They seem to have turned off the map service and Aneeda doesn't seem to do much anymore. I was hoping someone knows how to add some functionality back or even add new apps. I've contacted Iam+ support about getting some developer tools but haven't heard anything back yet.
I was able to use adb to get different apps and launchers onto it, but could never get the functionality I wanted. Screen size is too small, I think this would be best if you could get androidwear on it, but I am not sure how.
You're right, Android Wear would be awesome, the Dial+ is 4G and has 32Gb of internal storage.
If anyone is interested, on the Dial+ to get the developer options menu you first have to go to "About dial" and tap on the kernel version 7 times. After that you can go back up a level in the menu and you'll see the developer options menu is available.
Convert rescued phones to "wireless user interfaces" (remove phone & market cruft)
I'm looking for pointers to suitable distributions to determine the feasibility of "downgrading" older, rescued phones to "wireless GUI appliances". On the one hand, to estimate the scale of the effort that will be involved. On the other hand, to identify the "most promising" devices to go in search of (these will have been donated/scrapped devices -- beggars can't be too choosey!)
How complete are the distributions? How much is hidden, embedded in "blobs"? I'd like to discard all of the code associated with the phone, GPS and much of the user interface and just build up from the kernel and device drivers (display, touchpad, buttons, microphone, speaker, WiFi, BT, etc.)
The goal, here, is to turn the phones into appliances that have no value besides in the system to which they are mated (i.e., walk off with one and you've basically got a paperweight as it is no longer usable as a phone) and to wire-down the user interface to a single, specific application.
[I've been hacking (BSD) kernels for 25 years and writing OSs and drivers for longer still (but, usually for hardware that I have designed) so I just need a shove in the right, general direction.]
Thanks!