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Does anyone know if the retail Galaxy Tab 10.1 (US) will have a Unlockable or Unlocked bootloader? Or will it be signed or encrypted like oh so many others?
We all know the I/O Edition one is unlocked out of the box, but I would like to know others speculation or knowledge of the subject, thxs.
Really hoping its unlockable like my Xoom's so then we don't have to wait for Samsung to release their delayed updates with Touchwiz and junk like that.
i purchased the 10.1v and it had an easily unlockable bootloader. id be surprised if they changed it back to old ways for the new version, but i suppose everyone will only be able to see once they actually get their hands on one.
The only hope is that samsung have realised that one of the things that will help this tablet fly is customisability.
I would have thought it they'd leave it the same as the I/O version.
cosimoss said:
I would have thought it they'd leave it the same as the I/O version.
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I highly doubt they would leave the retail version unlocked, even my Xoom was locked when I bought it and I had to unlock it using a fastboot advanced command which caused the warrenty to be voided. I hope they atleast leave it unlockable like the Xoom.
So can anyone with a retail tab confirm if the bootloader is locked and if it is unlockable. Also if it is locked is there any work around? Tying go decide if I should keep my Xoom or return it in the next two days.
as stated, it is locked up tight.
there is odin access, but i could not get a flash going (although it passes verification).
Wow I hate Samsung. Once again they ruin an otherwise great product, there really is no reason at all that they need to lock a wifi only tablet. Oh well just gunna keep my Xoom and wait for Kal-el. Touche Samsung.
Edit: Just curious, what method does Samsung use to lock their bootloaders, are they encrypted or signed or what?
Yea, this is a big letdown. My Tab may be on its way back to Best Buy if nothing changes around the time of widespread launch on the 17th.
pershoot said:
as stated, it is locked up tight.
there is odin access, but i could not get a flash going (although it passes verification).
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so no simple unlock? and i thought that samsung was promoting the dev community. i wonder why they would leave the bootloader unlocked on the 10.1 io and 10.1v and then lock the 10.1 retail
What a disappointment! I thought maybe supercurio was working with the retail version, and we would be able to do things like calibration of the screen to tone down the oversaturation. The locked bootloader + lack of micro SD slot = too locked down. Probably time to consider the Transformer again...
so for the immediate future we can expect to not have very much development going on im guessing... makes me lean towards getting the xoom
legion21 said:
so for the immediate future we can expect to not have very much development going on im guessing... makes me lean towards getting the xoom
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If you are concidering another tablet, Might really want to look at the Transformer. There is a reason its the 2nd best selling tablet in the world
Bukem75 said:
If you are concidering another tablet, Might really want to look at the Transformer. There is a reason its the 2nd best selling tablet in the world
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there's a reason it's $100 cheaper than the other tablets. high quality isn't one of them.
i'm on my third. if the gt10.1 can be unlocked i'd be on it... i still may get one tomorrow and decide which to keep.
why dont you guys post on samsungs facebook and twitter page like the HTC fans did.
@SamsungMobileUS on twitter https://twitter.com/#!/SamsungMobileUS
facebook https://www.facebook.com/SamsungMobileUSA
Bukem75 said:
If you are concidering another tablet, Might really want to look at the Transformer. There is a reason its the 2nd best selling tablet in the world
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Transformer is really too much hype. Build quality is so so and I already returned mine. Very disappointed.
I am going to pick up the Tab tomorrow at Best Buy. What do u guys think the chances are it is going to be rooted before the 14 day return policy runs out?
I too am very disappointed.
I received mine today and its unlocked by default
love is me said:
I received mine today and its unlocked by default
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I purchased the 32 GB GT10.1 (grey back) and it came with an unlocked bootloader. I didn't notice at first, but I saw an article saying some were unlocked, so I rebooted just now and saw the unlocked lock.
Might be getting one today from best buy (im on holiday in the US ) How do you check if it's locked or unlocked?
fransarj said:
Might be getting one today from best buy (im on holiday in the US ) How do you check if it's locked or unlocked?
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When it boots look for the unlocked pad lock on the bottom middle of the screen. If it is there then it is unlocked.
Because I've heard different answers to this question elsewhere, I wanted to post it here.
Will there be an opportunity for us to flash ROMS from Clockworkmods, etc. on the NT in the near future or not?
Thanks!
Tommy
Possibly, no ETA. No one knows at this point when but it is technically possible but it will take a lot of work from the devs to get around the bootloader.
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No idea when this would happen. The locked bootloader is big problem.
New here so excuse me if wrong: but I thought the Nook Color was unlocked, why would B&N do that? Wouldn't that kill their sales of the unit? Does anyone think there will be a leak to unlock the Tablet?
mario24601 said:
New here so excuse me if wrong: but I thought the Nook Color was unlocked, why would B&N do that? Wouldn't that kill their sales of the unit? Does anyone think there will be a leak to unlock the Tablet?
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The number of people who buy a device based on whether the bootloader is locked or not is a very small number.
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If you don't feel like waiting a year to maybe have custom Roms, get a kindle fire, it has cm7 already and cm9 right around the corner.
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If you don't feel like waiting a year to maybe have custom Roms, get a kindle fire, it has cm7 already and cm9 right around the corner.
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I was hoping that the devs would find a solution but this seems to be the way to go.
Pretty much all the great devs have or are planning to get Kindle Fires.
The forum over there is "on fire" (pardon the pun)
As someone that loved the Nook Color that is very disappointing.
Yeah, I was on the fence between the two, but the locked bootloader, and kinda goofy looking form factor of the nook tab made the decision for me, and yeah, the kindle forums are busy. I am very happy with my choice.
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Cm7 for the kindle has no sound at the moment, so yes, you can get a kindle and enjoy a buggy customization experience. You can already do a lot with rooting and side loading apps; you'll do this with a better screen and hardware specs on the NT.
That being said, the bootloader is a major clockblock for development of custom ROMs. While we can still root and sneak in apps here and there, we are as-of-yet powerless to remove Barns&Nobles pared down version of the android experience. This is a real tough nut to crack, as we're forced to either bypass or crack it, both of which are not fun to do. Remember, hackers are a minute portion of buyers, and B&N is subsidizing the cost of the tablet with their ecosystem.
The KF, on the other hand does not have the locked bootloader, which means its more likely that meaningful development will continue for it.
Duely blundered from my thunderdolt
I'm pretty sure that I read somewhere that somebody has already managed to bypass the locked bootloader? Is this correct? What will this mean?
I really don't get why anyone would get a kindle fire JUST because you can modify it more (right now). What's the point if it has no SD slot and choppy video playback?
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I'm pretty sure that I read somewhere that somebody has already managed to bypass the locked bootloader? Is this correct? What will this mean?
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Source? No one from these forums has as of yet.
If it did happen though, it would mean the Kindle Fire would be a flaming pile of **** compared to the NT
CelticWebSolutions said:
I'm pretty sure that I read somewhere that somebody has already managed to bypass the locked bootloader? Is this correct? What will this mean?
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Nahh, not even close to unlocking the bootloader.
Shame I'm sure they'll get there though. Just a matter of when...
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Shame I'm sure they'll get there though. Just a matter of when...
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it´s gettin closer
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20383778&postcount=104
Sounds like there is some hope. I have been long time user of the "other" tablet and ordered a Noon Tablet, should have it Monday. I hear there is a way to do "sidelaoder" to gain access to the whole android market without having to root it. Anyone have a guide I can reference to do it to mine? I see many instructions but want to be sure I pick a "safe" one.
Other than the market, I don't think there is much more I'd like it to do. Does android have a app for Synology NAS? I also like using XBMC on iPad, anyone know if adroid has it or something similar/better?
Anything thing else you recommend I do to the NT without having to root it? My mail functions for the tablet will be entertainment, internet, videos, pictures and music.
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Sounds like there is some hope. I have been long time user of the "other" tablet and ordered a Noon Tablet, should have it Monday. I hear there is a way to do "sidelaoder" to gain access to the whole android market without having to root it. Anyone have a guide I can reference to do it to mine? I see many instructions but want to be sure I pick a "safe" one.
Other than the market, I don't think there is much more I'd like it to do. Does android have a app for Synology NAS? I also like using XBMC on iPad, anyone know if adroid has it or something similar/better?
Anything thing else you recommend I do to the NT without having to root it? My mail functions for the tablet will be entertainment, internet, videos, pictures and music.
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To get market you have to root. I don't see why you wouldn't as there is the one click unroot app and the 8(or is it 10?) failed boot to factory restore if you have any issues and want to return to BN
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Really I didn't know root was that easy. Can you please point me where I can read how to do that?
mario24601 said:
Really I didn't know root was that easy. Can you please point me where I can read how to do that?
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It's extremely simple to do. Enjoy!
Looks like I couldn’t post the link but Koopakid08 has below
mario24601 said:
Really I didn't know root was that easy. Can you please point me where I can read how to do that?
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Instructions here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1354487
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I have a Samsung Galaxy III, and I LOVE it, there is only one Problem, it is not eXfat/SDXC compatible, I've heard there are a number of ways to fix this (one person suggested Rooting it, another suggested some sort of unofficial Patch, there were few other suggestion suggestions that I can't remember )
I was wondering if someone could advise me as to what the best option would be and/or point me to a how to guide
Much Appreciated...
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I have a Samsung Galaxy III, and I LOVE it, there is only one Problem, it is not eXfat/SDXC compatible, I've heard there are a number of ways to fix this (one person suggested Rooting it, another suggested some sort of unofficial Patch, there were few other suggestion suggestions that I can't remember )
I was wondering if someone could advise me as to what the best option would be and/or point me to a how to guide
Much Appreciated...
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AFAIK the only way you can make any modifications is to have root permissions, so you would need to root. All the guides and tuts are in the General thread.
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AFAIK the only way you can make any modifications is to have root permissions, so you would need to root. All the guides and tuts are in the General thread.
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And what about after rooting? do the guides also explain how to add SDXC compatibility for larger sdxc micro cards (I have some custom made 256gb ones coming in from China that i plan to start selling with a couple left over for me to put in my phone)
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And what about after rooting? do the guides also explain how to add SDXC compatibility for larger sdxc micro cards (I have some custom made 256gb ones coming in from China that i plan to start selling with a couple left over for me to put in my phone)
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what about after rooting? go to the development section and take a look at some roms/mods - the general section has a few mods too, there are some regarding exfat/SDXC, not sure about 256gb ones!
squ89r97 said:
what about after rooting? go to the development section and take a look at some roms/mods - the general section has a few mods too, there are some regarding exfat/SDXC, not sure about 256gb ones!
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Thank you so much for your help
Son of Kalas said:
Thank you so much for your help
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don't forget to press thanks and not just say it, as my signature suggests, it makes me angry
Just so you know, most of the roms come with mods and customizations. happy hunting
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don't forget to press thanks and not just say it, as my signature suggests, it makes me angry
Just so you know, most of the roms come with mods and customizations. happy hunting
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There you go
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There you go
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Thanks for Thanking
Holy moly.......256Gb?!....I want one!
....hmm ....from China....maybe not!
slaphead20 said:
Holy moly.......256Gb?!....I want one!
....hmm ....from China....maybe not!
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don't worry, I'll stress test them for a few weeks before I start selling them, at this point SDXC micros only go up to 64gb on the "official" market so this is the only way... Want me to let you know when/if they pass the stress test? I'll give you a special deal.
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don't worry, I'll stress test them for a few weeks before I start selling them, at this point SDXC micros only go up to 64gb on the "official" market so this is the only way... Want me to let you know when/if they pass the stress test? I'll give you a special deal.
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I'm certainly interested, any idea what kind of price they are?
slaphead20 said:
I'm certainly interested, any idea what kind of price they are?
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well the 256gb standard size by lexar is 900$
but i would say for these
how about 400$
assuming of course they pass the stress test
Son of Kalas said:
well the 256gb standard size by lexar is 900$
but i would say for these
how about 400$
assuming of course they pass the stress test
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Ah....way out of my price league then! Global recession and all that!
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Ah....way out of my price league then! Global recession and all that!
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i see, too bad, how about $300. that's about as low as i can afford to go
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i see, too bad, how about $300. that's about as low as i can afford to go
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Take a peep at my profile and you will see why I can't afford anything like that
slaphead20 said:
Take a peep at my profile and you will see why I can't afford anything like that
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oh i see, that's unfortunate, tell you what, I ordered a shipment of 50 so i could make some money selling them, if they pass said inspection, I'll make an exception give you one
I'll let you know when/if they pass
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oh i see, that's unfortunate, tell you what, I ordered a shipment of 50 so i could make some money selling them, if they pass said inspection, I'll make an exception give you one
I'll let you know when/if they pass
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That is incredibly kind of you, I really don't know what to say but don't put yourself out of pocket on my behalf........all I can say is Thankyou and may you be blessed with good fortune
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That is incredibly kind of you, I really don't know what to say but don't put yourself out of pocket on my behalf........all I can say is Thankyou and may you be blessed with good fortune
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Don't worry about it
Any one trying to root this phone?
WhiteReign said:
Any one trying to root this phone?
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I was just looking for this same thing. I ran across a website that shows it can be done, don't know how valid this is though.
Bright future
It seems the G6 is poised for a bright future if it just catches on...
Samsung always takes the cake though
WhiteReign said:
Samsung always takes the cake though
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I'm wondering if anybody plans on root at all in the future before buying this phone. Don't want it if there's no development on it!
There's nothing. Which is a shame because I would be rocking this thing already
This is the first phone I have gotten that I don't have the need to root
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I like to have AdAway, Folder Mount, Quick Boot, and Xprivacy, which need root.
The lack of root is the only thing keeping me from getting this with the Best Buy deal
Best buy deal was too good to pass up and I got one for a family member coming from an ancient Galaxy S3. Really hoping we see root.
Glad I'm not the only one. I traded in for the V20 but it has to be shipped first and I'd much rather keep the G6.. Awesome phone.
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Best buy deal was too good to pass up and I got one for a family member coming from an ancient Galaxy S3. Really hoping we see root.
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I really want to get it, but the complete lack of discussion about it tells me it's not happening anytime soon.
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I really want to get it, but the complete lack of discussion about it tells me it's not happening anytime soon.
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Agreed. I feel like nothing will ever get root again on verizon unless you buy an unlocked phone for a ton of money or a last year model on swappa - but I always buy new.
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Agreed. I feel like nothing will ever get root again on verizon unless you buy an unlocked phone for a ton of money or a last year model on swappa - but I always buy new.
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I don't know what changed. It seems like there's a new push to lock down Android, it might have to do with Android Pay. It's really a shame. I don't understand the lack of people looking for exploits. Maybe they just aren't posting about it like they used to.
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I don't know what changed. It seems like there's a new push to lock down Android, it might have to do with Android Pay. It's really a shame. I don't understand the lack of people looking for exploits. Maybe they just aren't posting about it like they used to.
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Google has created nearly as much of a "walled-garden" as Apple have. Clearly the "security" concerns of the extreme few have caused quite a panic and nearly all of the major manufacturers have locked down their bootloaders and exploits are being punished legally in some cases. Crazy considering it is all based around "open source" code.
VZW is by far the worse offender and I am only on their network because the others all suck in my area. Not that it matters anymore since practically none of them have rootable devices. Unfortunately the best bet this year is the headphone jackless HTC U11 for a whopping $650 for the unlocked, bootloader mod-allowed version.
Has any one tried Kingo Root?
https://www.kingoapp.com/bootloader-unlock/how-to-unlock-lg-bootloader-on-android-device.htm
I may look into it later this week. I have a few things to try.
What a shame. This phone is fantastic, the LG V20 just showed up for me to pick up and I find myself reluctant to pick it up. I know it has root, as I roofed it for my boyfriend, after extreme difficulty it worked but all the custom ROMs for it made it where he can't receive texts or calls. Haven't gone looking for the fix yet. I may wait.
Crossing my fingers at the above post. You'd be my saving Grace. (;
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Oh and for KingORoot, you need to ask for the OEM unlock code through LG but this phone isn't apart of their available devices. Exploit please!
I fixed his V20, now is rooted with custom ROM and calling and text officially work. Is it enough for me to give up my G6 for root? Still reluctant. Yes, that's how good it is.
Autoprime just posted in the main G6 dev area, it sounds like he is doing a bit of poking at the platform.
It doesn't directly help vs988, but any sign of an experienced developer working the G6 is great.
Very interested in buying the Find N, either through Giztop or WondaMobile, (shipped to UK) just wondering if those who've done the same would recommend doing it?
My main concerns are security and reliability, of the device and the store itself (after all it's A LOT of money to hand over)
Also, I know it's not going to be 'out of the box ready', so what issues would i be expecting and what are the must-do's when setting up to make sure everything works?
Advice appreciated
I used Giztop. I love my Find N. But there are lots of China-centric issues you can find on this forum...
the 512gb version has recently dropped a lot in price, taken on Wonda, I can't wait!
Cheers for heads up. Let me know how it goes!
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I used Giztop. I love my Find N. But there are lots of China-centric issues you can find on this forum...
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Did you get any customs fees from Giztop? What shipping method did you use? Thank you
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Did you get any customs fees from Giztop? What shipping method did you use? Thank you
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No didn't get customs fees, and I remember choosing the quickest option, whatever that was...
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No didn't get customs fees, and I remember choosing the quickest option, whatever that was...
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Oh that's good to know.
By the fastest option do you mean the "Express $29.99 (8-15 days) ? I assume your experience is post Brexit right lol ?
Yeh I believe so.
I might consider selling mine though... If you are interested?
Yeh I believe so.
I might consider selling mine though...
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Yeh I believe so.
I might consider selling mine though...
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Thanks but I was looking for the Mix Fold2 that was announced yesterday!
Guys does 5G work on this phone here in the UK? I am with EE