Hi - So my S20+ had an included the buds+ as freebie, before this I've never owned any of these "truly wireless" buds. My last bluetooth earphones was a Samsung level U (free from S7 edge). So my question, are these "truly wireless" type earphones really horrendous in terms of sound quality? Would the airpods pro/non-pro or other higher end buds come close to the free akg ones? Or all of these buds are really on a separate low class of there own?
If I have to arrange my earphones in order of sound quality and put spaces/underscores to emphasize the difference
free akg (from S20) ______ Level U __ some old $20 sennheiser earphones i have ___________________________________________________________ buds+
** To audiophiles and other sound enthusiasts, I know all of these are garbage tier in the earphone/headset universe. **
khein said:
Hi - So my S20+ had an included the buds+ as freebie, before this I've never owned any of these "truly wireless" buds. My last bluetooth earphones was a Samsung level U (free from S7 edge). So my question, are these "truly wireless" type earphones really horrendous in terms of sound quality? Would the airpods pro/non-pro or other higher end buds come close to the free akg ones? Or all of these buds are really on a separate low class of there own?
If I have to arrange my earphones in order of sound quality and put spaces/underscores to emphasize the difference
free akg (from S20) ______ Level U __ some old $20 sennheiser earphones i have ___________________________________________________________ buds+
** To audiophiles and other sound enthusiasts, I know all of these are garbage tier in the earphone/headset universe. **
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Both is good. Not the best out there but it's not bad.
S20 comes with adapt sound.. Personalize it and create profile for buds+ and akg Wired earphone. If tweaked properly both sounds great.
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Love the earbuds +, lovely quality sound on them and you can tweak certain things using the Samsung Wearables app.
I can also adjust things via the Poweramp app which is my default music player.
I got the Buds+ as part of my pre-order, so in anticipation of these arriving i sold the Huawei Freebuds 2 Pro that i had (and loved). Regretted it the moment the Buds+ landed and tested them. No-where near as good as advertised.
Bass quality was poor, wouldn't stay in my ears, and found them uncomfortable. I have since sold the Buds, and bought a set of Huawei Freebuds 3 to replace them. Much happier
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I got the Buds+ as part of my pre-order, so in anticipation of these arriving i sold the Huawei Freebuds 2 Pro that i had (and loved). Regretted it the moment the Buds+ landed and tested them. No-where near as good as advertised.
Bass quality was poor, wouldn't stay in my ears, and found them uncomfortable. I have since sold the Buds, and bought a set of Huawei Freebuds 3 to replace them. Much happier
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Yeah I agree bass is bad. But i do love the feature to allow outside noise to enter the earbud. Makes it very useful in airports so u can hear announcements.
Before that I was on wired nakamichi NEP-MV18, it's a dual driver earphone with very very very good sound quality. Now seeing s20 don't have headphone jack in using that only on my pc.
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Buds+ are, in fact, one of the best wireless headphones you can buy.
See some measurements: https://www.rtings.com/headphones/t...-wf-1000xm3/1791/917?usage=9287&threshold=0.1
Radek Hulán said:
Buds+ are, in fact, one of the best wireless headphones you can buy.
See some measurements: https://www.rtings.com/headphones/t...-wf-1000xm3/1791/917?usage=9287&threshold=0.1
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Measurements mean nothing when it comes to the true user experience. I found them to lack audio quality where it matters. The Freebuds3 i'm now using are far better.
Of course measurements are important ****ty headphones never measure well... I'm using myself €1,100 headphones, custom made Harmony 8.2 in-ears from Custom Art, with 8 drivers in each enclosure, but Buds+ are very decent as well, using them for sport, and measurements prove it.
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Of course measurements are important ****ty headphones never measure well... I'm using myself €1,100 headphones, custom made Harmony 8.2 in-ears from Custom Art, with 8 drivers in each enclosure, but Buds+ are very decent as well, using them for sport, and measurements prove it.
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I don't need measurements to hear what is good or not. To me, the Buds+ were crap, not as advertised, so i got rid of them.
Depends what you prefer...
Measurements will show you headphones are or aren't able to play whole spectrum, from 50Hz to 20kHz, with no dips and spikes.
But you might prefer emphasized mids or bass, not precise sound (e.g.)
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Depends what you prefer...
Measurements will show you headphones are or aren't able to play whole spectrum, from 50Hz to 20kHz, with no dips and spikes.
But you might prefer emphasized mids or bass, not precise sound (e.g.)
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Different ppl have different needs.
When I was younger, my car ice was tuned to emphasize on bass.. And those gigantic passive subwoofers and amplifiers..
My amps only power the subwoofers and not the speakers.
Now, I have a active subwoofer, a way better set of speakers and tweeters.. And amps connected to speakers and tuned differently.
Buds+ might be good for some, not so good for others.
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IMHO, I find the Buds+ very good, AFTER setting up a good equalizer, not the wear app one.
My music player (Stellio) has a great one, so I can enjoy a really good sound.
But I think they can't be sound lovers usable when out-of-the-box...
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IMHO, I find the Buds+ very good, AFTER setting up a good equalizer, not the wear app one.
My music player (Stellio) has a great one, so I can enjoy a really good sound.
But I think they can't be sound lovers usable when out-of-the-box...
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I would recommend you give this a try. Adapt sound from the phones sound settings.
Just by this itself the sound quality improved a lot. Then adjust the equalizer of your music player to make it even better.
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I would recommend you give this a try. Adapt sound from the phones sound settings.
Just by this itself the sound quality improved a lot. Then adjust the equalizer of your music player to make it even better.
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Can you take a screen shot of your custom settings?
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Can you take a screen shot of your custom settings?
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It's not settings at all, just run the Adapt sound process in a quiet environnement with your buds on and it will define it all by itself.
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Here you go. But yes you'll need to set it up. Go to a quiet place, it will play several tones at different frequency and adjust it accordingly.
I've set up a profile for buds+ and a different profile for my in car entertaiment unit.
And yes dolby is switched on for both.
The Samsung equalizers don't come close to the Poweramp equalizer.
If you're using the Buds you'll want to use Poweramp to dail them in.
I didn't like the wired AKG's that came with my 10+ at all.
can you post your settings for poweramp equalizer, also used buds + sounds great but i just increase everything in adapt sound profile.
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can you post your settings for poweramp equalizer, also used buds + sounds great but i just increase everything in adapt sound profile.
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Try to avoid using 2 equalizers as it can add a lot of distortion. Poweramp has an excellent equalizer.
I sometimes "boost" my Poweramp EQ with the Wearables one, setting it to dynamic depending on the song. The Wearables EQ by itself though doesn't cut it.
The Buds and Buds+ have different EQ controls and aren't interchangeable. Both lack low end bass.
EQ settings are very individual and based on your unique hearing perception and preferences.
Generally though for the Buds, jack up the lower bass range especially the last sliders.
Try to make a linear transition across the sliders to form a smooth curve; abrupt heavy one band settings can lead to poorer quality sound. Center the curve starting from 0 db ie don't jack all bands beyond O db.
Turn on the limiter function to avoid clipping especially with the low bass.
This is one of my profiles for the Buds+
My thoughts. The galaxy buds+ are one of the best wireless buds available at its price point, comparable to the airpods pro. Each has there positives and negatives, if you run android tho, its an easy choice. I've tried both on both hardware (S20, i11 pro) and I personally prefer the buds+, but to each there own.
That being said.. the included AKG headphones are AMAZING, and for being included in the box, in my books beat out both... well because they're free. In my usage they also offer deeper lows and more tru mids. No matter which type of wireless ear buds I try, those are 2 things always missing.
Audio though is extremely subjective, so what I think is great, you and others may think is trash. Just dont go with airpods, you WILL be disappointed.
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Headphones seem cheaply made.
Why no volume buttons?
Why not use standard 3.5mm?
Did Sony assigned only one part time intern to design the headphones?
Are they not standard 3.5mm phones? Anyway, they seem at least as good to me as the phone Apple bundles with their products.
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They are standard 3.5mm unless you don't have a Z Ultra.
Sony produce some of the best ear buds out there and these are no exception. Crystal clear and pumps out the bass.
If the standard length of cord supplied with the headphones is too long for you to reach your phone volume control, cut it.
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Headphones seem cheaply made.
Why no volume buttons?
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Why no volume buttons? Those aren't standard. The only thing that truly is standard in a stereo headphone jack is the top/ring/sleeve design with 3 contacts and the 3.5mm size. The headphones that have volume buttons and/or action buttons use a non-standard additional contact, and devices which aren't designed with the non-standard headphones in mind can't even make use of the extra buttons, even if they may support other functionality with extra contacts. For example, my Galaxy Nexus can understand the action button on Apple earbuds, because it was made to expect that sort of functionality on the jack's extra contact, but it cannot understand the other volume buttons on the headphones as they are non-standard.
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Why no volume buttons? Those aren't standard. The only thing that truly is standard in a stereo headphone jack is the top/ring/sleeve design with 3 contacts and the 3.5mm size. The headphones that have volume buttons and/or action buttons use a non-standard additional contact, and devices which aren't designed with the non-standard headphones in mind can't even make use of the extra buttons, even if they may support other functionality with extra contacts. For example, my Galaxy Nexus can understand the action button on Apple earbuds, because it was made to expect that sort of functionality on the jack's extra contact, but it cannot understand the other volume buttons on the headphones as they are non-standard.
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Actually using urbeats earpieces designed for HTC phone and it recognize the forward/backward buttons for volume up/down as well as the play and stop button that with a double push go to next track. Sony only put basic earpieces as all manufacturer, having volume on it or not does nothing to the quality. Never found basic earpieces giving a good quality, so nothing to cry about it.
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knite75 said:
Headphones seem cheaply made.
Why no volume buttons?
Why not use standard 3.5mm?
Did Sony assigned only one part time intern to design the headphones?
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I have just purchased the Samsung galaxy Note 3. I mention that to illustrate I am not biased to one brand.
In terms of sound reproduction, Sony are class leaders, they invented the 'Portable sound' technology. No standard headphones due justice to any of the branded phones they are sold with.
Sony head phones are the best available as an 'in the box' headphone BUT can be vastly improved on. Apple are amazingly among the worst?
I have a preference for Sennheiser and you can make a choice that suits your own ears.
If you don't like Sony sound reproduction I have no idea what to advise you? Oh and no in the box phones come with volume controls uless its a special offer.
Tell you what. I will exchange your Sony headphones for an unused pair of Samsung galaxy note headphones.:good:
What have you been using 'till this point? What brand of phone and have you tried other brands of headphone such as Sennheiser?
Regards.
I'm no audiophile (at all!), but i wouldn't say they're bad. I've noticed that thay aren't exactly pumping the bass like other more expensive ear plugs, but i personally think that the audio alone is fairly good. It's clean and it hits most tones, but again.. the bass is just not there. An EQ will quickly fix this though (yeah, i've tested it). If you're listening a lot to dance, trance, techno, dubstep, hip hop etc. then these won't cut it. If you listen to music with a lot of different instruments, then they'll be more suitable.
Again, i'm not an audiophile so these are just my personal thoughts.
The sony ones sound better than anything that I have that were "free". for free head phones they are good.
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I have just purchased the Samsung galaxy Note 3. I mention that to illustrate I am not biased to one brand.
In terms of sound reproduction, Sony are class leaders, they invented the 'Portable sound' technology. No standard headphones due justice to any of the branded phones they are sold with.
Sony head phones are the best available as an 'in the box' headphone BUT can be vastly improved on. Apple are amazingly among the worst?
I have a preference for Sennheiser and you can make a choice that suits your own ears.
If you don't like Sony sound reproduction I have no idea what to advise you? Oh and no in the box phones come with volume controls uless its a special offer.
Tell you what. I will exchange your Sony headphones for an unused pair of Samsung galaxy note headphones.:good:
What have you been using 'till this point? What brand of phone and have you tried other brands of headphone such as Sennheiser?
Regards.
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OP seems to complain the things that comes with the bundle without comparing what other phones have to offer.
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The sony ones sound better than anything that I have that were "free". for free head phones they are good.
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"sounding better" is personal preference anyway. no point to clarify with OP on the matter but yes, as for the headphone that don't look like a cheap earbuds, it's one of the good one in quality for it's range
LordManhattan said:
I'm no audiophile (at all!), but i wouldn't say they're bad. I've noticed that thay aren't exactly pumping the bass like other more expensive ear plugs, but i personally think that the audio alone is fairly good. It's clean and it hits most tones, but again.. the bass is just not there. An EQ will quickly fix this though (yeah, i've tested it). If you're listening a lot to dance, trance, techno, dubstep, hip hop etc. then these won't cut it. If you listen to music with a lot of different instruments, then they'll be more suitable.
Again, i'm not an audiophile so these are just my personal thoughts.
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Really? I remember thinking they were too bass-heavy. Granted, I only used them while I was watching a movie, not actually listening to music, so maybe I need to give them another shot. However, I remember thinking they definitely sounded heavier in the bass than my XBA BT75 earbuds I normally use for music listening, which sound flatter and clearer to my ears.
EDIT: Yes, these stock Sony earbuds are definitely more bottom-heavy than my other ones. If anything, these need a bass cut, because they're bordering on being muddy. On the whole, they have a pretty obvious "smiley face" response, unsurprisingly. Lots of bass, and the high frequencies have been boosted as well--cymbals, for instance, are a little too "sizzly" for me.
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Really? I remember thinking they were too bass-heavy. Granted, I only used them while I was watching a movie, not actually listening to music, so maybe I need to give them another shot. However, I remember thinking they definitely sounded heavier in the bass than my XBA BT75 earbuds I normally use for music listening, which sound flatter and clearer to my ears.
EDIT: Yes, these stock Sony earbuds are definitely more bottom-heavy than my other ones. If anything, these need a bass cut, because they're bordering on being muddy. On the whole, they have a pretty obvious "smiley face" response, unsurprisingly. Lots of bass, and the high frequencies have been boosted as well--cymbals, for instance, are a little too "sizzly" for me.
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Mine are the opposite. There are barely any bass. I'll do some research.
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seems like more incentive to invest in some good headphones or buy the SBH52
Head phones-ear buds. A quick explanation.
I will try and make this brief and simple. Head phones-ear buds can only produce or reproduce the sound that they are connected to, the source. Headphones come in various types, in ear, (the type that come with the mobile), open head phones (the sound they reproduce can be heard by others in the room) and closed back (in theory only the wearer can hear the sound.
Next, The source, in terms of Sony devices, is class leading especially at this price point. Standard in the box ear buds are there as part of the package, they do not faithfully reproduce what the source produces. Non of them.
Frequency response. This is the level of bass to the level of treble each head phone is rated. Examples Sennheiser CX300-11 in ear. Frequency response;19-2100Hz. Sennheiser CX400-11, 17-22,000Hz. Translated this means the CX400 will be able to reproduce deeper bass tones and higher treble tones thus the midrange should be as clear as a bell.
Please remember what in ear buds use as a bass chamber is part our outer and part inner in, as far as the timpani goes, the 'eardrum', If we use a very high volume ,especially with in ear buds, damage can and is done to our ear drum and hearing. With this in mind such an ear bud MUST be used with caution. As soon as we connect an ear phone to a Sony device the volume is automatically reduced to ensure we don't damage the ear.
Now, we have the source, in our case the mobile phone, and the reproduction, the ear bud. What will also count to the overall quality of reproduction are the connections. The plug the cable also the quality of the components used in the manufacture of the ear bud or head phone.
It is false economy and rather unwise to use the in box freebies. Spend between 40.00€ and 50.00€ and one can purchase an ear bud or on ear open or closed head phone that will knock your socks of. Is it worth it? This is a question of how you use your device. I use it first as a mobile phone, secondly as a way to send and receive SMS and thirdly to listen to music, with this in mind I purchase branded head phones and branded ear buds.
A brilliant starter for in ear buds is the Sennheiser CX300-11. For a portable open ear head phone I use the Sennheiser PX100-11. Both are industry leaders.
let me quickly add there is no such thing as 'the best', its choice, its what type of sound each of us prefers. I use Sennheiser as I enjoy the type of sound they produce and for the price involved I find them exceptional, there are numerous other brands to chose from.
DO NOT go and purchase any sort of ear bud or head phone costing hundreds of euros as the source will not provide the FR for the head phones to reproduce. One has to evaluate with care how to match ones device between source and speaker.
I hope this small missive may help some members who enjoy music.
Kind regards.
Thank you for a quality post, Johnson (yes, I'll keep calling you that). Say, what would you recommend to a person who listens a lot to bass filled music?
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Thank you for a quality post, Johnson (yes, I'll keep calling you that). Say, what would you recommend to a person who listens a lot to bass filled music?
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Sennheiser CX400-11. FR: 17-22000Hz for ear buds, and the Sennheiser PX100-11. FR: 15-27000Hz for open back on head ear phones (they are portable as they fold up).
I am not to fond of in ear buds even though I always carry a pair, I use the CX300-11.
For general use and a simply stunning sound with bass to rattle your teeth, I use the PX100-11. They come in white or black.
Remember its the source that will count and with the Sony Walkman being utilised NOT the Google play, the sound is clear, well balanced, deep and very well controlled. Mid range is simply spectacular. I enjoy a very wide cross section of music from classical to pop to what ever.
Again I must add that there is nothing 'wrong' with using a graphic equaliser. I don't as I enjoy the music as it was recorded BUT if you enjoy that extra bass then go for it. Do remember when you deepen the bass using a graphic equaliser you alter the stage sound as a whole. No problem if you enjoy a bass heavy sound.
The good point is you have a very high quality source with the Sony. As such I sincerely believe the device deserves a fitting head phone or ear bud.
let us know what you purchase.
Oh and don't forget top allow the ear bud or head phone to 'run in' for 48 hours before you make an assessment. That is very important.
Regards.
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Are they not standard 3.5mm phones? Anyway, they seem at least as good to me as the phone Apple bundles with their products.
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Same here
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Having decided to keep my N3 even tho I'm not bowled over by the audio, I'd like to reach out and ask which earphones you guys use, and rate highly? I'm in the UK
Thanks.
What's your budget and what do you look for in a pair of them? Quality over sound or vice versa. What type of music genres? Etc... do you want more bass or more average or more vocals to pop out?
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try something from Denon or Audio Technica!
I use the stock buds at work as they allow me to listen in on conversations of colleagues (meaning I can hear them when they try talking to me). If I want good sound away from home, I use a shure 215 se. There are pricier options, but for 100€ it's really great sound. At home I use a sennheiser MD 598 if I really want to have it like the musicians inteted their songs. But the sennheisers are open back and so sound gets out and my family is annoyed by that if they wantto watch TV. So I bought the Yamaha Pr 500. they are closed backs and almost don't leak sound, even if I use my Fiio alpen to crank it up. The Yamaha is a little tinted to the lower frequency side, but it sounds awesome to hear all the bass lines. And with EQ you van tweak the sound to your liking. But what I found is, that any over the ear headphones with big drivers really gives a much better sound stage. When using my big cans I almost always get back to live tracks over studio recordings, because it sounds as if you were standing in front of the stage. I recently had to thin out my music collection on SD card to make space for higher quality recordings. Now the minimum I use is 160 kbps and I have tracks up to 320. and the difference is amazing.
Sorry for this rather long post, but I hope you can get something out of it.
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Agree. Headfi.org is great if you research audio stuff.
Another vote for head fi. Watch your wallet though. The headphone out on the Note 3 is very good. A high quality headphone is worth it. Personally I use a Vmoda m100 most of the time. It's a fantastic headphone if you like your bass. I also have a pair of Audiotechnica A900s which still sound amazing after 5 years since I purchased it. For ultimate portability I use Sennheiser IE8s which still blow me away with their bass and soundstage.
Good luck with your search. There are lots of good choices.
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I'm using the Sennheiser Adidas MX 685 as my put-in-pocket pair of earphones. They sound great, are water-proof, and don't fall out of your ears! You can get them in multiple form factors.
http://www.amazon.com/Sennheiser-Adidas-Sports-Headphones-Packaging/dp/B00E367V4A/
http://www.amazon.com/Sennhesier-Adidas-Sports-In-Ear-Headphones/dp/B0094R4PBU/
http://www.amazon.com/Sennheiser-Adidas-Sports-In-Ear-Headphones/dp/B0094R2HZQ/
http://www.amazon.com/Sennheiser-Adidas-Sports-Neckband-Headphones/dp/B0094R4Q6Y/
Discovered JVC HA-S500 through HeadFi. I loved them so much I now own three pair so the wife and kids can use. They are import only from Japan.
http://www.amazon.com/JVC-Head-band-Portable-Headphones-HA-S500-B/dp/B008FWB9TQ
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Having decided to keep my N3 even tho I'm not bowled over by the audio, I'd like to reach out and ask which earphones you guys use, and rate highly? I'm in the UK
Thanks.
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Bose earbuds. Designed so they cannot fall out of your ears, tons of BASS, amazing. Cost around $150
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JCM800 said:
Having decided to keep my N3 even tho I'm not bowled over by the audio, I'd like to reach out and ask which earphones you guys use, and rate highly? I'm in the UK
Thanks.
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Monster inspiration noise canceling headphone they work pretty good.
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Try a pair of these.
http://www.amazon.com/Shure-SE535LT...F8&qid=1382456681&sr=8-2&keywords=shure+se846
The output from the N3 is extremely good. If you're not feeling that then either you're using dodgy earphones or poor quality source material. Well recorded 24/96 audio through my Shure E3C earphones sounds pretty amazing.
Really can believe no one has recommended Etymotic. I picked up a set of these
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B000XP8DJC
And I am as happy as I can be with them. You can't beat it for under $100 IMO. I plan on investing in their ER-4s based on my experience with how impressed I am with the hf4. I never thought I would be paying as much for a set of headphones as I would a phone....
JCM800 said:
Having decided to keep my N3 even tho I'm not bowled over by the audio, I'd like to reach out and ask which earphones you guys use, and rate highly? I'm in the UK
Thanks.
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One of my friend in Hampshire ordered headsets for his N3 from fommy....and he was quite happy to receive them so you can check out their may be you find some better ones....
XxLostSoulxX said:
What's your budget and what do you look for in a pair of them? Quality over sound or vice versa. What type of music genres? Etc... do you want more bass or more average or more vocals to pop out?
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Firstly thanks for the replies everyone. I wasn't receiving post updates.
I listen to Led Zeppelin a lot. Rock music. Like to hear the bass too and mid range .
I think I'm more inclined to use in ear buds, so shall look through the thread and check recommended types.
Thanks all
I picked up a pair of Bose IE2 a few days ago and blown away with audio quality and comfort. Kinda pricey but well worth it.
http://www.amazon.com/Bose-327279-0...=UTF8&qid=1382528712&sr=8-1&keywords=Bose+IE2
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I picked up a pair of Bose IE2 a few days ago and blown away with audio quality and comfort. Kinda pricey but well worth it.
http://www.amazon.com/Bose-327279-0...=UTF8&qid=1382528712&sr=8-1&keywords=Bose+IE2
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Thanks ill have a look. I'm just used to those silly shaped in ears that came with my old iPhone 5 - I imagine Bose would be better than those!?
JCM800 said:
Thanks ill have a look. I'm just used to those silly shaped in ears that came with my old iPhone 5 - I imagine Bose would be better than those!?
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Yes, definitely. These come with different size buds and stabilizers depending on your ear size. I don't even know I'm wearing these when working out for long periods of time. They have another version with volume controls and mic for $30 more.
Returned for a refund the Plantronics BackBeat Go 2 bluetooth headset because the buds were uncomfortable and popped out during movement.
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I think I'm more inclined to use in ear buds, so shall look through the thread and check recommended types.
Thanks all
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You can use over the ear headphones with the N3 but I wouldn't recommend it. I tried my Sennheiser HD650s plugged into the N3 and they sounded okay but not great, problem is the N3 doesn't really have enough power to drive them. Through a headphone amp or external DAC they should be fine, I tried the N3->HLLY SMK-III DAC->Sennheiser HD650 and that sounded awesome.
Using N6P for the last few days, N6P sound output from the headphone jack is poor, it gets loud but quality is lacking, N6P doesn’t even have the power to drive high efficiency headphones (high sensitivity (dbl/mW or dbl/W) and low impedance (ohms)), I listen on my Triple Fi 10 headphones (Input Sensitivity - 117dB/mW; Impedance - 32 ohms) and the sound quality is disappointing.
I am coming from N6, N6 has very good sound quality from the headphone jack, N6 has the power to drive my Triple Fi 10 and doesn’t need an Amp.
PhoneArena measured the N6 at .98 volts and the 6P is .34 volts, for comparison IP6+ is 1.014 volts
See below comments from Head-fi forum about the poor sound quality:
“The 6P's sound is extremely forward and punchy, but has a real digital grittiness to it. Almost like running through a preamp with the gain wound up too far, with a weird high mid resonance that eventually becomes fatiguing. The weird grit sort of reminds me of my motherboard's onboard Realtek sound, from circa mid-2000s. It feels like the frequency response is not flat at all, I'm expecting tests to show a big peak around high mids to low treble. It's kind of like listening on cheap earbuds.”
http://www.head-fi.org/t/785067/nexus-5x-and-6p-sound-quality/30
I hate to return N6P as I love the phone otherwise, but sound quality is very important to me as I listen to music a lot.
The 6p has so many strong points, wouldn't it be worth using a headphone amp instead of returning the entire thing? Obviously that won't solve audio quality, but investing in an iPod or a walkman isn't too bad when your then able to use IMO the best android phone of 2015...
Get high quality Bluetooth headset. I have jaybird x2 and sounds beautiful connected.
Jamie bell said:
The 6p has so many strong points, wouldn't it be worth using a headphone amp instead of returning the entire thing? Obviously that won't solve audio quality, but investing in an iPod or a walkman isn't too bad when your then able to use IMO the best android phone of 2015...
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Must listen to this guy.
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I couldn't tell you the last time I plugged in headphones... No to wires!
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Only use them on airplanes!
im very happy with my Nexus 6P and headphone jack sound quality with my vmoda headphones. I use poweramp to listen to music and used one of the apps preset equalizers, sound quality is great to me, I've also used it during phones calls and it sounds just fine.
ga9213 said:
Get high quality Bluetooth headset. I have jaybird x2 and sounds beautiful connected.
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Smallsmx3 said:
I couldn't tell you the last time I plugged in headphones... No to wires!
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Bluetooth is not there yet in terms of music quality, I have tried and returned 10 -12 bluetooth headphones in the last year including Jay bird x, they are no match to the good quality wired headsets like my Triple Fi 10, you won’t get any sound stage on Bluetooth headphones.
Sony’s new high resolution Bluetooth headphones are promising but it needs LDAC codec support on the phone, also these headphones are expensive at $399.
I wonder if someday we will see a pair of cans sporting USB-C with an inline Digital to Analog converter. There would be many benefits to this really. I could see a trackpad that supports gestures or scrobbling, etc.
I understand that as for high end audiophile one can spend thousands in the pursuit of audio bliss. But as for my common daily use my 6P with Viper and my JayBird X and Bose sounds is just fine:good::good::good:
Get poweramp and apply these settings.
People still use those headphone jacks? Hmmm... Interesting
anglerstock said:
Get poweramp and apply these settings.
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Thanks for the suggestion, but software enhancements mostly ruins music experience, I prefer to listen the music the way musician intended to..
I used poweramp but prefer Neutron - the best music player on Android..
perXway1 said:
People still use those headphone jacks? Hmmm... Interesting
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yes...only if you listen to real music..and have a discerning ears..
droidguy22 said:
yes...only if you listen to real music..and have a discerning ears..
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Real music you say? Lol so those with discerning ears don't use Bluetooth? #snobbery
If you wish to listen to music "as musicians intended" then you can only get inside their collective heads to hear it. Everything else is influenced and changed by acoustics, recording, engineering and production.
Jamie bell said:
The 6p has so many strong points, wouldn't it be worth using a headphone amp instead of returning the entire thing? Obviously that won't solve audio quality, but investing in an iPod or a walkman isn't too bad when your then able to use IMO the best android phone of 2015...
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agree that 6p has many strong points, but amp defeats the portability, a premium phone ($700 - 128gb with tax) in 2015 should give a decent sound quality, what's the point of 128gb storage if it can't output decent sound.
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If you wish to listen to music "as musicians intended" then you can only get inside their collective heads to hear it. Everything else is influenced and changed by acoustics, recording, engineering and production.
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the way you described is not possible, that's why you want to buy a device with better DAC and use good quality headphones and you can be as close as possible to the musicians intent..
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Real music you say? Lol so those with discerning ears don't use Bluetooth? #snobbery
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you are not so bright, are you?
Why Bluetooth Audio Used To (and Still Largely) Sucks:
The problem with Bluetooth audio has always been digital compression: in order to send your audio to your headphones, you were forced to sacrifice quality. Traditionally, especially on older devices and with older Bluetooth versions, this meant the sound was so badly compressed that the result sounded robotic, buzzy, noisy, and all around awful. Listening to podcasts and spoken word through them wasn't a big deal, but when it came to music, they were just the worst. You got none of the richness or warmth of sound that a pair of wired headphones offers.
if you're the type who really enjoys listening—and I mean actively listening—to music on high-quality headphones, and you use terms like "soundstage" and "frequency response" to judge one pair of headphones over another, you may be disappointed, especially when you compare your wireless listening experience to a wired one.
http://lifehacker.com/does-bluetooth-audio-still-suck-1505063323
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the way you described is not possible, that's why you want to buy a device with better DAC and use good quality headphones and you can be as close as possible to the musicians intent..
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My comment was not a flame. The difference is that I see all this as impossible for the very reasons I gave. Perhaps Steve Albini can make this clearer: http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/sep05/articles/albini.htm
Guys,
What are the new supplied headphones like in quality for sound and overall design?
Also Just found this site selling the "official headphones" £29.99 is anyone looking for spare.
http://www.digitalsave.co.uk/offici...-kardon.html?gclid=CPm31oHFtdMCFWwo0wod6jsBIw
Personally, i found them to fit brilliantly, very comfortable, and to me ( i am not a audiophile sorry to say) sound really good, thank you for the link.
Likewise i thought they were a good fit, plus the sound from them sounded (to me) really good with lots of bass that you tend not to get with other stock headphones in ear that i have tried, but im no audiophile either.
As an audiophile I found them to be quite decent for stock headphones. The sound quality is definitely good. I haven't yet had the time to change the ear tips to fit my ears and test if they fall off easy or anything. That being said, I might stick to Bose earphones.
After reading that they are expensive, I was hoping for a way better experience. I like the EarPods/Airpods from Apple way more.
They have way more bass than my B&O headphones I got with the V20. I like'em
AKG Earbuds
YellowGTO said:
They have way more bass than my B&O headphones I got with the V20. I like'em
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That makes me very happy to hear. The main reason I didn't purchase the V2O when it came out was I'd missed out on the pre-order and wouldn't be getting the B&O earbuds. I'm very happy with the AKG set that came with the phone, and really looking forward the the BT AKG headphones I just ordered this morning. That and the memory card I'm looking forward to, along with VR headset / controller.
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They have way more bass than my B&O headphones I got with the V20. I like'em
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I felt the sound quality was crystal clear. Treble and vocals are crisp but bass was on disappointing side. It isn't as punchier as the one's we get with HTC One series. Maybe I need to tweak equalizer more to get that heavier bass but default settings didn't sound deep enough. Again, I maybe wrong.
I'm pretty sure this is one more of those cases where you get a practically different product for different markets, but the ones I got in Serbia are pretty crappy :/ I'm no audiophile, but compared to my cheap Xiaomi Piston 3, these are so tinny, low-volume and just plain bad I was actually thrilled when I saw them, tried them right away, but just put them back in the box after 2 minutes...
They're not bad. Pretty clear high end and decent mids but somewhat underwhelming low-end. Still better than the buds that came with my S6E and Galaxy Tab 4 7.0.
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I felt the sound quality was crystal clear. Treble and vocals are crisp but bass was on disappointing side. It isn't as punchier as the one's we get with HTC One series. Maybe I need to tweak equalizer more to get that heavier bass but default settings didn't sound deep enough. Again, I maybe wrong.
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I agree. The clarity is great. They def lack bass though. Not bad for free tho. And I appreciate the fabric overlay on the cord
choccy31 said:
Guys,
What are the new supplied headphones like in quality for sound and overall design?
Also Just found this site selling the "official headphones" £29.99 is anyone looking for spare.
http://www.digitalsave.co.uk/offici...-kardon.html?gclid=CPm31oHFtdMCFWwo0wod6jsBIw
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I learned a while ago not to trust loose Samsung headsets.
I've bought replacements for 2 different Samsung "included" headsets, and in both cases the originally included headset sounded great while the replacements sounded cheap.
Their sound profile is slightly U shaped with emphasize on the bass & highs. Not really neutral or truly high end but by far the best stock earphones that I've ever heard.
I'm a musician and I own Sennheiser HD650, HD600, Shure SE425, Etymotic ER4P & AKG K702 with several dedicated headphone amps, so I know what I'm talking about...
I persoanlly think these headphones are the best of any inbox headphones I've ever used and I've used a lot.
Dont forget to use the equaliser aswell it can enhance the sounds for more clarity base and so on.
To be honest, they sound good but are poor in quality. They're cheap plastic and the right one on my pair has driver flex like crazy.
These AKG headphones are ip68/waterproof or not ?
I thought the stunk when I first tried them. I use PowerAmp and found that I had to go in and adjust the equalizer for both headphones and BT.
Very Happy Now!
I deleted Google Play Music before realizing that it was the default music player for the S8 series. I would assume it needs the same tweaks as Power Amp.
Do all the US variants S8's come with the AKG's in box?
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They sound pretty good. But far behind my Bose QC30
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Do all the US variants S8's come with the AKG's in box?
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Yep all do
I don't think the supplied akg earphone sounds good for the music. I used another $20 (symphonized brand) earphones and they sound really nice (extra bass) the akg that came with the phone is not as good.
Any thoughts guys?
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They're not great, I use Xiaomi earbuds that are significantly better. They are, however, much better than the apple pack-in earbuds.
"Extra base" is probably not very accurate sound. If you prefer it that way, that's fine, but the AKG headphones are tuned for more balanced sound. They're not great headphones, but they are decent if you want to hear music as it was recorded, rather than with artificial base.
hem.acharya said:
I don't think the supplied akg earphone sounds good for the music. I used another $20 (symphonized brand) earphones and they sound really nice (extra bass) the akg that came with the phone is not as good.
Any thoughts guys?
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They sounded good until I switched to Sennheiser's.
My thoughts too. I actually think they sound bad. I think the buds that came with my S7 edge sound better.
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"Extra base" is probably not very accurate sound. If you prefer it that way, that's fine, but the AKG headphones are tuned for more balanced sound. They're not great headphones, but they are decent if you want to hear music as it was recorded, rather than with artificial base.
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I think I just prefer some bass but akg one doesn't have. I thought the headphones that came with the phone was supposed to sound better. For me it doesn't
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Better is subjective. Accurate isn't.
I gave them to my son as soon as I open the box. In his opinion, they better than what comes with the iPhone. Not amazing, bit will do.
Initially I was too disappointed. Then my Sony earbuds died so I've played around and now I'm more than happy with the sound.
1) https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s9/how-to/howto-tune-headphine-sound-t3764747
2) Change the silicon pads.
Bass was still flat. I've noticed that in certain position in the ear bass was way better. Tried different silicon pads supplied. None worked properly. Then I've tried the one from my dead Sony. Boom.
I guess there's difference in Japanese and Korean ear holes
It looks a bit retarded thou - white silicon pads on black earbuds. But I think Sony sells them even in black.