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hi all, im an owner of a sam.charge. I use the app called "System" and it lists about a dozen apps that are stored in my cache or that are using memory when I have not innitiaited the service or app...
I'm most familiar with computers so I'll relate it to that; is there some type of command line that I can use to stop some of these apps from auto start and being stored. For instance on windows you can 'msconfig' what programs are allowed to start on boot up.
Here is a list of apps that I want to stop: AccuWeather.com, Android Booster, Google Voice, HeyTell, Amazon's Appstore, Market, Music, etc.
Most are cached/ inactive but none the less in my task manager when freeing up memory when I notice things to be lagging I'd imagine these to be guilty. Android Booster always lists these as killed apps as well when optimizing...
Im familiar somewhat with how android works being that it often fills a large portion of your memory with what it wants to and frees space as it is needed but these apps for me are rarely used...
Im big on battery life being Im in and out of Sales accounts and rely on my phone heavily so I dont want these things running in the background sucking up resources. Not to mention I like a snappy phone...
If anyone could educate me on this topic Id really appreciate it... I may be mistaken on a few things so call me out on it, since im sure I am... Also, I know their are app freezers and applications you can program to kill apps at a set interval but again I would like the least amount of garbage running as I can
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Some of the basic services are must to be initiated/running all the time such as launcher, keyboard, google voice, market, etc.. so as to run your phone smoothly . This is the default setting of android os. And anyway why do you want to close/stop the services case restarting services uses more battery than kepping them running on the memory ....
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hi all, im an owner of a sam.charge. I use the app called "System" and it lists about a dozen apps that are stored in my cache or that are using memory when I have not innitiaited the service or app...
I'm most familiar with computers so I'll relate it to that; is there some type of command line that I can use to stop some of these apps from auto start and being stored. For instance on windows you can 'msconfig' what programs are allowed to start on boot up.
Here is a list of apps that I want to stop: AccuWeather.com, Android Booster, Google Voice, HeyTell, Amazon's Appstore, Market, Music, etc.
Most are cached/ inactive but none the less in my task manager when freeing up memory when I notice things to be lagging I'd imagine these to be guilty. Android Booster always lists these as killed apps as well when optimizing...
Im familiar somewhat with how android works being that it often fills a large portion of your memory with what it wants to and frees space as it is needed but these apps for me are rarely used...
Im big on battery life being Im in and out of Sales accounts and rely on my phone heavily so I dont want these things running in the background sucking up resources. Not to mention I like a snappy phone...
If anyone could educate me on this topic Id really appreciate it... I may be mistaken on a few things so call me out on it, since im sure I am... Also, I know their are app freezers and applications you can program to kill apps at a set interval but again I would like the least amount of garbage running as I can
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If you find apps that you don't use, you can use a program to freeze them. Just search for freeze in the market. I personally use a free app called System Tuner. Freezing prevent them from starting up and therefore you cannot use them, but later on you can un-freeze them if you need to.
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I use this one, had a bunch of other features.https://market.android.com/details?id=cn.opda.a.phonoalbumshoushou&feature=search_result
Thanks all for the feedback...
To reply to the first response; I have read that about battery life. That, the more you kill apps and reopen them that it takes longer for the app to start up and thus sucking up battery life... I probably should not have mentioned battery life in my post being that I have a car charger and that it contradicts what im trying to accomplish (going over my post, it was stupid of me given what you just mentioned). Also, I'm not so much concerned with market apps or google voice as I am about the apps I installed myself. Those ones are the ones that bother me.
To the other posts thanks for the recommendations I will like into those options. I'm just trying to prevent extra apps from running in the background so freezing them is a last resort.
I'm looking for something that I can type in terminal possibly on program into the OS or app itself to keep it from auto starting... possibly a command line?!
Any developers input? Can this even be done. I'm still very much a beginner but its not beyond my comprehension to do something like this... I know its different but I play around with linux, web design, c++ stuff so if you post directions I can follow smoothly our atleast figure it out if you point me in the right direction
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It's not exactly what your asking for but have you tried Gemini App Manager:
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.seasmind.android.gmappmgr
You can use it to disable/re-enable an app's autorun settings. When you first open it it will list all user apps currently in memory. Clicking menu then expert mode will give you a list of all apps. Long press an app then click configure autorun.
Just be careful with changing the autorun settings of system apps like market.
"preventing apps from autostarting"
I like this topic a lot!
I think the question(s) and "assumptions" the OP holds are all valid. So I'd really like to hear the answer to the actual question, not a spew of why the question isn't valid.
How do you stop apps from starting up on their own? (like microsofts msconfig)
Pretty simple question and I cannot find the answer! I've been in software for many year and I'm rather stunned by the responses people are giving - which basically say "who cares, android O/S handles it for you".
Well, lets face it:
*If* the user didn't call for the app, and had no desire to use it, then the "system" loading it even ONCE, is one too many.
*If* the app is a DESIRED app, (OR device required), *BUT* uses data - then if the user didn't want to use it; "yet" - then thats DATA & BATTERY life --> **WASTED**
If the user suspects the APP is misbehaving; one sure fire way would be to SEE it running, when they didn't ask it to!
If you are pure paranoid, or simply want extreme app control....
The kinds of answers people are giving is truly along the the lines of "we dont know, but you're silly for caring"
SOYLENT GREEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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jr67 said:
It's not exactly what your asking for but have you tried Gemini App Manager:
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.seasmind.android.gmappmgr
You can use it to disable/re-enable an app's autorun settings. When you first open it it will list all user apps currently in memory. Clicking menu then expert mode will give you a list of all apps. Long press an app then click configure autorun.
Just be careful with changing the autorun settings of system apps like market.
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I'm going to test this out too! And I'll post success if it does well!!!
Hi,
what does it mean technically if an app is "freezed"? Is the APK moved to another location, or are the unix access rights altered, or is a reference to the app deleted from some kind of "registry" of the Android system, or what else? Can it be done manually by a file manager?
Thanks,
Stefan
It can be done using the purchased version of Titanium Backup and probably a few other apps. It basically renders the app inactive without uninstalling it. Helpful for bloatware that runs in the background but you can't decide if you want to delete it or not.
Thanks, but this was not my question...
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It can be done using the purchased version of Titanium Backup and probably a few other apps. It basically renders the app inactive without uninstalling it. Helpful for bloatware that runs in the background but you can't decide if you want to delete it or not.
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Yes, I know, but what does it do exactly on file system level? Doesn't anybody know?
stbi said:
Yes, I know, but what does it do exactly on file system level? Doesn't anybody know?
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Most freezing apps simply rename the app to be frozen with an extension, like in the case of Bloat Freezer (IMHO the best one) the frozen app gets a .bzw extension. It remains in place but of course cannot be executed. The nice part is that if you run into an issue you can just rename the app back to what it was (assuming that you have root).
It works!
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Most freezing apps simply rename the app to be frozen with an extension, like in the case of Bloat Freezer (IMHO the best one) the frozen app gets a .bzw extension. It remains in place but of course cannot be executed. The nice part is that if you run into an issue you can just rename the app back to what it was (assuming that you have root).
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Cool, so simple - thanks! So it can be done with any file manager.
I've just successfully frozen the preinstalled "LGWorld.apk" by renaming it to "LGWorld.apk.bak". As soon as I had done this, a message popped up, saying "Deinstalled", and the icon disappeared from the app drawer, and also the update for "LG World" vanished from the Market app.
Hmm.. freezing doesn't mean rename. It is being remove from system. If.you rename yourself, the apps may failed to work.
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Freezing the app works via decreasing the temperature of the app to roughly 50 Kelvin. At this point the the app's molecular structure becomes a super condensed crystal lattice. Due to the nature of the crystal lattice, android treats the super dense app as non existent. Essentially the app is deleted from your system completely. However, think of it not as a permanent deletion but rather a reversible one. Should you chose to 'restore' the app, you can defrost the app. You could defrost the app using a microwave but I for one use TB Pro as it does a far better job.
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Freezing the app works via decreasing the temperature of the app to roughly 50 Kelvin. At this point the the app's molecular structure becomes a super condensed crystal lattice. Due to the nature of the crystal lattice, android treats the super dense app as non existent.
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Haha smart ass.
lambstone said:
Freezing the app works via decreasing the temperature of the app to roughly 50 Kelvin. At this point the the app's molecular structure becomes a super condensed crystal lattice. Due to the nature of the crystal lattice, android treats the super dense app as non existent. Essentially the app is deleted from your system completely. However, think of it not as a permanent deletion but rather a reversible one. Should you chose to 'restore' the app, you can defrost the app. You could defrost the app using a microwave but I for one use TB Pro as it does a far better job.
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ha ha ha! that was hilarious man
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stbi said:
Hi,
what does it mean technically if an app is "freezed"? Is the APK moved to another location, or are the unix access rights altered, or is a reference to the app deleted from some kind of "registry" of the Android system, or what else? Can it be done manually by a file manager?
Thanks,
Stefan
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Manufacturers and carriers often load Android phones with their own apps. If you don’t use them, they just clutter your system and sometimes in the background, draining resources. Take control of your device and stop the bloatware.
We’ll be focusing on disabling – also known as “freezing” bloatware here. It’s a safer process than uninstalling the bloatware completely, and is also easier to accomplish with free apps.
Uninstalling vs. Freezing
Uninstalling an app is exactly what it sounds like – the app is entirely removed from your device. Unfortunately, it’s not possible to get many of these preinstalled apps from the Play Store if you ever need them again. Uninstalling some preinstalled apps may result in problems or instability, so you could run into problems.
It’s safer to “freeze” apps instead of uninstalling them. A frozen app is disabled completely – it won’t appear in your app drawer and it won’t automatically start in the background. A frozen app cannot run in any way until you “unfreeze” it. Freezing and unfreezing are instant processes, so it’s easy to undo your changes if you end up freezing a necessary app.
If you really must uninstall apps, you should freeze them first and wait a few days to ensure that your phone or tablet works properly without them.
You can’t uninstall or freeze preinstalled bloatware apps without root access and third-party app managers. Try and you’ll find the options grayed out in the standard Android interface.
klacenas said:
ha ha ha! that was hilarious man
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I understand and have frozen quite a few apps with TB Pro. My issue is there are shine pre-installed apps that I like to use, but when I run the task killer, they're always running. Is there a way I can fix them where they don't keep starting immediately after killing them, but still having them available when I want to use them?
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I understand and have frozen quite a few apps with TB Pro. My issue is there are shine pre-installed apps that I like to use, but when I run the task killer, they're always running. Is there a way I can fix them where they don't keep starting immediately after killing them, but still having them available when I want to use them?
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you can try greenify it will hibernate the apps and hence the app will be available for you any time
donnebonn said:
I understand and have frozen quite a few apps with TB Pro. My issue is there are shine pre-installed apps that I like to use, but when I run the task killer, they're always running. Is there a way I can fix them where they don't keep starting immediately after killing them, but still having them available when I want to use them?
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Another app called greenify. Or using an autostart manager to prevent them from running without ykur intervention.
sangalaxy said:
you can try greenify it will hibernate the apps and hence the app will be available for you any time
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Thx a bunch. I dwld and installed the grenify app and disabled them, however, when I run my task killer the gallery app is always running. I wanted to greenify it, but it's not showing up in the greenify app, even when I did a search for it, it just took me to my home screen. I clicked on the app and it just opened but I didn't see any options to greenify it. Any suggestions? Thx for ur help.
so at the end is freezing and renaming the same thing? no one cleared that up, i usually just rename to BAK and thats it, what does TItanium apart from renaming?
ok i answer myself, freezing is the same as going to app manager, and selecting DISABLE
or from a root terminal using:
pm disable {package_name} (e.g. # pm disable com.android.browser)
wich calls:
/system/bin/pm
wich in turn contains:
# Script to start "pm" on the device, which has a very rudimentary
# shell.
#
base=/system
export CLASSPATH=$base/framework/pm.jar
exec app_process $base/bin com.android.commands.pm.Pm "[email protected]"
what it does is set a flag for a component to some of different values:
COMPONENT_ENABLED_STATE_DEFAULT
COMPONENT_ENABLED_STATE_DISABLED
among others. (http://developer.android.com/reference/android/content/pm/PackageManager.html)
where does it store this flag: I DONT KNOW
is this flag a value inside some manifest/ini file? : IDK
is this flag st in the file system? IDK
can someone show me the light?
edit: I DONT KNOW for sure but i think it stores it in : /data/system/packages.xml
that is generated by package manager taking info fro each app manifest. i hope i am right, but dont take my word as absolute truth since it was a quick google research lol
Renaming the apk file can result in unwanted behaviour... I learned by trial&error! I'm running MIUI 6 and wanted Google Play as default app store and not the MI Market. Renaming the apk file for the Mi Market gave me the result I wanted: launching Google Play whenever I clicked a link to a certain app. But that was until I rebooted the phone... it got stuck on the MI startup logo. After renaming the Mi Market apk file in twrp recovery, my phone booted again.
So might try freezing it to see if it will do the job properly.
Freezing Mi Market with AppFreezer worked like a charm!
el_jefe said:
Renaming the apk file can result in unwanted behaviour... I learned by trial&error! I'm running MIUI 6 and wanted Google Play as default app store and not the MI Market. Renaming the apk file for the Mi Market gave me the result I wanted: launching Google Play whenever I clicked a link to a certain app. But that was until I rebooted the phone... it got stuck on the MI startup logo. After renaming the Mi Market apk file in twrp recovery, my phone booted again.
So might try freezing it to see if it will do the job properly.
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Depends what you mean by "renaming." Changing the extension from .apk to .apkold or .bak or something like that will harmlessly freeze the app since it's no longer seen as an apk by the system. Renaming the app itself is another thing entirely.
I renamed the extension to .noapk and Miui wouldn't boot anymore.
Good stuff
Hey there all, this is 2 Bunny again. As many of you know, back in October I had to make an emergency switch from Windows Mobile to Android. As you've all read in my posts, it has been a very "mixed" experience with both some impressive and downright pathetic discoveries, but one of the worst things about it (beside the complete inability to sync) is the way that Android closes your programs whenever it feels like it instead of letting you close them. Sometimes I'll be browsing the internet in Opera Mobile and I'll switch over to the email program briefly to check something, when I hold down the "home" key and pick OM from the list of recently used programs, it starts it all over again, and I know for a fact I didn't choose "exit".
Sometimes I'm glad Android "cleans up" (like if I back out of a program that has no "exit" option) because it saves me the trip to the task manager later, but is there any way I can prevent it from closing stuff I'm actually still using?
Thanks.
- 2 Bunny
kainppc6700 said:
Hey there all, this is 2 Bunny again. As many of you know, back in October I had to make an emergency switch from Windows Mobile to Android. As you've all read in my posts, it has been a very "mixed" experience with both some impressive and downright pathetic discoveries, but one of the worst things about it (beside the complete inability to sync) is the way that Android closes your programs whenever it feels like it instead of letting you close them. Sometimes I'll be browsing the internet in Opera Mobile and I'll switch over to the email program briefly to check something, when I hold down the "home" key and pick OM from the list of recently used programs, it starts it all over again, and I know for a fact I didn't choose "exit".
Sometimes I'm glad Android "cleans up" (like if I back out of a program that has no "exit" option) because it saves me the trip to the task manager later, but is there any way I can prevent it from closing stuff I'm actually still using?
Thanks.
- 2 Bunny
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Try ZDBox application.....maybe you'll find a solution to that problem!!
jimsiv said:
Try ZDBox application.....maybe you'll find a solution to that problem!!
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Interesting. So that can prevent it from closing certain programs?
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Interesting. So that can prevent it from closing certain programs?
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Yup. I've been using it for a long time. As far as I know you can set certain apps to Protect so they're not closed.
ZaIINN said:
Yup. I've been using it for a long time. As far as I know you can set certain apps to Protect so they're not closed.
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Great, I'll give that a try and letcha'all know if it works.
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Update - well it seemed promising, but it didn't work unfortunately. ZDbox said it was "protected", but that didn't stop Android's hammer of making people's lives miserable.
Any ideas if I might be doing something wrong in ZDBox (I did turn off the notification thing) or if there is other software I might be able to try?
Thanks.
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If rooted try V6 supercharger script. Just do a search on XDA. It rewrites your phones memory management to increase multitasking capabilities by reconfiguring your ram. If not rooted, your choices are severely limited by existing software to hardware configurations preset by the android operating system and the device manufacturer. Go through all of your programs and clear out all of your allocated cache memory. Freeing up ram memory may help your multitasking needs.
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As mentioned by others, the most likely culprit is high memory utilization. However, there are a few other reasons that may contribute to the application closing down. Android "ranks" applications from 1 to 5 (where 5 means it is the first to get killed) based on certain criteria. Because xda won't let me link to it (I'm a new user), I have posted them at the bottom of my message.
Chances are, you are seeing the behavior in numbers 4 and 5. The fact that Android keeps applications in a least-recently-used list means that if you have applications which you just accessed but appear to have closed when you come back to them, then, once again, it is likely you are using a lot of memory that the phone is aggressively trying to keep cleaned up.
Although, it is possible that a small number of your problems are based on poorly implemented applications since the developer website states "If an activity implements its lifecycle methods correctly, and saves its current state, killing its process will not have a visible effect on the user experience..."
1. Foreground process
A process that is required for what the user is currently doing. A process is considered to be in the foreground if any of the following conditions are true:
It hosts an Activity that the user is interacting with (the Activity's onResume() method has been called).
It hosts a Service that's bound to the activity that the user is interacting with.
It hosts a Service that's running "in the foreground"—the service has called startForeground().
It hosts a Service that's executing one of its lifecycle callbacks (onCreate(), onStart(), or onDestroy()).
It hosts a BroadcastReceiver that's executing its onReceive() method.
Generally, only a few foreground processes exist at any given time. They are killed only as a last resort—if memory is so low that they cannot all continue to run. Generally, at that point, the device has reached a memory paging state, so killing some foreground processes is required to keep the user interface responsive.
2. Visible process
A process that doesn't have any foreground components, but still can affect what the user sees on screen. A process is considered to be visible if either of the following conditions are true:
It hosts an Activity that is not in the foreground, but is still visible to the user (its onPause() method has been called). This might occur, for example, if the foreground activity started a dialog, which allows the previous activity to be seen behind it.
It hosts a Service that's bound to a visible (or foreground) activity.
A visible process is considered extremely important and will not be killed unless doing so is required to keep all foreground processes running.
3. Service process
A process that is running a service that has been started with the startService() method and does not fall into either of the two higher categories. Although service processes are not directly tied to anything the user sees, they are generally doing things that the user cares about (such as playing music in the background or downloading data on the network), so the system keeps them running unless there's not enough memory to retain them along with all foreground and visible processes.
4. Background process
A process holding an activity that's not currently visible to the user (the activity's onStop() method has been called). These processes have no direct impact on the user experience, and the system can kill them at any time to reclaim memory for a foreground, visible, or service process. Usually there are many background processes running, so they are kept in an LRU (least recently used) list to ensure that the process with the activity that was most recently seen by the user is the last to be killed. If an activity implements its lifecycle methods correctly, and saves its current state, killing its process will not have a visible effect on the user experience, because when the user navigates back to the activity, the activity restores all of its visible state. See the Activities document for information about saving and restoring state.
5. Empty process
A process that doesn't hold any active application components. The only reason to keep this kind of process alive is for caching purposes, to improve startup time the next time a component needs to run in it. The system often kills these processes in order to balance overall system resources between process caches and the underlying kernel caches.
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That sounds promising. I'll give it a try and letcha'all know if it works or not.
Just FYI, the installation is a HUGE pain. I messed around with it for a solid hour and a half, maybe two hours to get it up and running, so it better work or I'm out the time I put in and I'd have anotherwise useless something running/taking up space.
Thanks.
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Looks like I wasted my time. Not only did that not have any effect, it seems to have permanently brought back the useless update nagscreen - a million thumbs down to "supercharger" for being the most useless waste of an hour and a half of my life.
Not to be mean here, but did anyone try the suggestions before posting them?
Guess I'm off to the recovery menu again to try and get rid of the nagscreen, that is if I'm not booted out first.
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Any updates on this?
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Any updates on this?
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Any updates on this?
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Any updates on this?
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Yes.
Install V6 Supercharger and bulletproof Opera Mobile/Mini.
Are you sure you had it installed and it was running actually?
Your kernel needs to support init.d scripts.
If not, prior to installing V6 create init.d folder in /system/etc/ and grant it all the permissions. Download Script Manager app and set V6 scripts from init.d folder to run at boot.
I hope it works.
Simple Workaround:
Download MinFreeManager app and tweak your min free settings according to your RAM. More RAM = More Agressive Settings. Google android minfree and you'll find how to.
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Yes.
Install V6 Supercharger and bulletproof Opera Mobile/Mini.
Are you sure you had it installed and it was running actually?
Your kernel needs to support init.d scripts.
If not, prior to installing V6 create init.d folder in /system/etc/ and grant it all the permissions. Download Script Manager app and set V6 scripts from init.d folder to run at boot.
I hope it works.
Simple Workaround:
Download MinFreeManager app and tweak your min free settings according to your RAM. More RAM = More Agressive Settings. Google android minfree and you'll find how to.
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I'll tell you what, I screwed around with that "supercharger" for so long, I really don't want to look at it again (I think my ROM might actually have it included). All I know is that it did install because when I restarted the device, I got the stupid update nagscreen back.
I am going to try that "MinFree" program though and report back what I figure out. So far it seems to be working, so this could be promising, but I'll keep ya'all posted.
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kainppc6700 said:
I'll tell you what, I screwed around with that "supercharger" for so long, I really don't want to look at it again (I think my ROM might actually have it included). All I know is that it did install because when I restarted the device, I got the stupid update nagscreen back.
I am going to try that "MinFree" program though and report back what I figure out. So far it seems to be working, so this could be promising, but I'll keep ya'all posted.
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Update. Looks like "MinFreeManager" isn't doing its job either.
Any other ideas? Anyone? I'll even try the "BulletProof" thing.
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I use the browser and check email while browsing without any problem returning to the browser. In your first post you said you use the home button. Doing that will close the browser. Use the back button to return to the browser.
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fdaconta said:
I use the browser and check email while browsing without any problem returning to the browser. In your first post you said you use the home button. Doing that will close the browser. Use the back button to return to the browser.
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Actually, the home key leaves it running. I usually check right away, and at first it continues running; it's when you're not watching that it takes it right out from under you. It might just be this build of Android.
Is anyone else running Gingerbread and having this problem?
Does anyone know of any kind of solution?
Thanks.
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Any updates on this?
Thanks.
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I would like to have the maximum of control on running processes, but I feel I have not enough control, so I hope you can help me
I know that being root, managing processes and disable "autoruns" is a quite easy task but unfortunately my device is not an easy to root phone
Furthermore, I saw that Android (4.1.2 Jelly Bean) performance is very bad when you have many apps installed or you used many apps recently. Yes I listen about the internal management and I am aware that it is not a suggested practice but since I want to have control on what is happening and i have serious concerns about the algorithms to free RAM (maybe bull****), so I prefer to do it on my own risk
What I am doing is go to
-Settings, Application manager, Running, "Show cached processes"
- Settings, Application manager, Running, "Show services in use"
Identify what apps are in use and i don't like, then go to
-Settings, Application manager, All,
select app and Click "Force Stop"
Doing it my device has a better performance however, some apps still going alive after some time, for instance: Email ( I saw other in the past)
Using "Autoruns" app and checking "email" app I can see with changes of state can start "Email" however, sometime "email" is reenabled after be manually stopped but none of previous conditions happened.
How can I kill "email" or other app and force to stay off? (disable it and install other email app is not a valid answer)
I would like to use email/others as an standalone app, I mean use when I want and have out of memory when I am not using.
Besides, the autoruns, is there any scheduled task or something like that to open apps?
Of course I want to root my phone and I am waiting until someone will find a proper way to root, in fact I think that an android without rooted is like a car with square shape wheels
I think I found the cause for "mail" app being executed automatically, today it went alive after select "flight mode"
Now I would like to control Google play services, I am seeing some of these being executed continuosly, can they be killed? how?
dapgo said:
I would like to have the maximum of control on running processes, but I feel I have not enough control, so I hope you can help me
I know that being root, managing processes and disable "autoruns" is a quite easy task but unfortunately my device is not an easy to root phone
Furthermore, I saw that Android (4.1.2 Jelly Bean) performance is very bad when you have many apps installed or you used many apps recently. Yes I listen about the internal management and I am aware that it is not a suggested practice but since I want to have control on what is happening and i have serious concerns about the algorithms to free RAM (maybe bull****), so I prefer to do it on my own risk
What I am doing is go to
-Settings, Application manager, Running, "Show cached processes"
- Settings, Application manager, Running, "Show services in use"
Identify what apps are in use and i don't like, then go to
-Settings, Application manager, All,
select app and Click "Force Stop"
Doing it my device has a better performance however, some apps still going alive after some time, for instance: Email ( I saw other in the past)
Using "Autoruns" app and checking "email" app I can see with changes of state can start "Email" however, sometime "email" is reenabled after be manually stopped but none of previous conditions happened.
How can I kill "email" or other app and force to stay off? (disable it and install other email app is not a valid answer)
I would like to use email/others as an standalone app, I mean use when I want and have out of memory when I am not using.
Besides, the autoruns, is there any scheduled task or something like that to open apps?
Of course I want to root my phone and I am waiting until someone will find a proper way to root, in fact I think that an android without rooted is like a car with square shape wheels
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more info about processes, mem and autostart
I am still fighting with Android and how it manages processes, now I am sure that my main problem became each time I went into flight mode or it is restarted.
But it is not only Email being executed and being using in memory but other processes that I am not using doing that, such as:
(Mem. on OS monitor- Mem. in "service in memory"(android settings))
Event: Connectivity changed
-youtube 22.2MB-6.2MB
-Google play services(com.android.gms) 26.8MB-12MB
-Maps 20MB-4.9MB
-Factory Test (18.6MB -3.4MB)
Event: after Startup
-youtube 22.2MB-6.2MB
-Software update (18.0MB-4.3MB)
-Internet (com.android.browser) 18.9MB-3.3MB
There many apps which are executed after events like previous but they are closed after a very short time, but I am frustrated about those which are not unloaded.
Regarding "Email" app I decided to use a free email app and as Email cannot be disabled, so, I removed the accounts associated to email app, however even without accounts configured, it still being launched and wasting resources. can I avoid it?
What do you think?
dapgo said:
I think I found the cause for "mail" app being executed automatically, today it went alive after select "flight mode"
Now I would like to control Google play services, I am seeing some of these being executed continuosly, can they be killed? how?
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It's not possible to do what you want without root, unfortunately (unless you're talking about normal apps, in which case you can uninstall them to keep them from running). An alternative would be to use Greenify, though it won't be fully automatic without root either.
What about editing the startups rights?
Has anyone used APK permission remover?
GermainZ said:
It's not possible to do what you want without root, unfortunately (unless you're talking about normal apps, in which case you can uninstall them to keep them from running). An alternative would be to use Greenify, though it won't be fully automatic without root either.
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Apk permission remover never stops an app from automatically starting. It only helps in removing the permissions we see during installation.
dapgo said:
What about editing the startups rights?
Has anyone used APK permission remover?
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You still want to do this 2 years and 7 months later? That's one late reply there
GermainZ said:
You still want to do this 2 years and 7 months later? That's one late reply there
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Yes but after SO long I found the app 'autorun manager pro', and it allowed to disable triggers /autoStartups/autoruns
So there's an app I've been using for many years: Simple Checkin for Foursquare
It's essentially a lightweight app/client for the once-popular Foursquare location checkin service.
The app has been abandoned by it's developer and hasn't been updated since 2016. I have searched but have not found another app to replace it (that works) so I still use it.
My daily driver for the past few years has been an LG V35 that's stuck on Android 8. It's actually been a great phone for me which is why I've kept it so long but is really starting to show it's age, some more modern apps are getting noticeably laggy.
I bought a new phone that came with Android 10 and it's good other than this particular app doesn't work at al. When I install (or launch it after clearing data) I'm given a warning that the app is designed for an older version of android and may not work properly before it prompts me to log into the Foursquare service, once that part is completed the app just crashes. Any time I try to launch the app after that it crashes immediately (never even loads the UI).
I've tried this on 2 different Android 10 phones and it's the exact same result. The app works fine on both Android 8 and Android 9.
I'm wondering if there's some kind of workaround for this problem or if I'm really stuck here. I have reached out to the developer of the app and he told me that he's not working on this app anymore and has no plans to update it.
Thanks in advance
Which phone?
The ancient freeware WPS office runs on my N10+'s Android 9 and 10. 10 hasn't caused many issues except it gutted Karma Firewall's valuable logging feature. On Samsung's at least scoped storage isn't fully active and Samsung has greatly modified Q to maintain functionality and the UI.
One reason I'll never load Android 11
Overlay apps generally crash on Q...
Try checking all settings on the app.
Check accessibility permissions, does it need Administrator permissions?
Clear system cache and app data.
Try disabling the internet and see if it loads.
If so then find which app is diming it out and firewall block it.
Try temporarily disabling Google play Services.
Playstore may be another trouble maker.
Try reinstalling it with internet disconnected.
See what apks popup (running services/app cache) when you try to load it as that may give you a clue to the perp apk.
Play with it... may be a dead end or not.
blackhawk said:
Which phone?
The ancient freeware WPS office runs on my N10+'s Android 9 and 10. 10 hasn't caused many issues except it gutted Karma Firewall's valuable logging feature. On Samsung's at least scoped storage isn't fully active and Samsung has greatly modified Q to maintain functionality and the UI.
One reason I'll never load Android 11
Overlay apps generally crash on Q...
Try checking all settings on the app.
Check accessibility permissions, does it need Administrator permissions?
Clear system cache and app data.
Try disabling the internet and see if it loads.
If so then find which app is diming it out and firewall block it.
Try temporarily disabling Google play Services.
Playstore may be another trouble maker.
Try reinstalling it with internet disconnected.
See what apks popup (running services/app cache) when you try to load it as that may give you a clue to the perp apk.
Play with it... may be a dead end or not.
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Thanks, I'll try that.
FWIW the two Android 10 phones I've tried are a Motorola One 5G Ace and a Unihertz Titan
Try using Apk Export to copy it. This is app I use, freeware.