Wileyfox Swift 2X: should I still buy one? - Wileyfox Swift 2 Questions & Answers

Hi, though I like my Wileyfox Swift with LineageOS, there is one weak point: it's display! Thus I consider to buy a Wileyfox Swift 2X, which goes quite cheap at the moment.
Since however, I can't find any display-ratings @ Wileyfox Swift 2 Real Life Review, I'd be delighted, if somebody could advice me accordingly.
NB: Swift 2X only!
Thanks!

If you need a camera phone, there are better choices. If you want a solid quality with still decent specs you can go with 2X. Another flaw is official Android without updates, only CR or LOS.

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I bought one because of the price when I broke a screen on my Asus. Actually it was kind of just about worth it December 2019.
The screen is OK. The phone I broke the screen of was a Asus max m1. Wileyfox 2x plus does not feel as good to look at. I am sure that you can find something better for the price.
No updates (latest roms are android 9) and lack of 5ghz WiFi is not worth it.
There is one android 10 rom but I haven't touched it sins finger print does not work yet on it.
As I was browsing phones the other day Motorola have better alternatives for the same price. But its up to you.
I would not buy one today.

I was looking at other phones like Lenovo P2 (p2a42) and Asus Zenfone Max Pro M1 mainly because they have official LineageOS support, If you like LineageOS then these 2 are fine alternatives with big battery and decent specs.
I feel I should have gone for the Lenovo, I like amoled screens and I found some in good working conditions back then for a good price.
I've bought the Wileyfox Swift 2 X because like you I had a Wileyfox Swift before but no, it aint worth it.
The display sure aint anything fancy on the Swift 2 X, 1080p but the screen is alot warmer than the Swifts and I don't like that.
In the LineageOS 16.0 rom I could tune the colors of the screen more to my liking in the settings and I spent more than an hour to find a good tone and with balanced colors. This is something I didn't have to do when I updated to the latest stock rom and later installed crDroid 5.12 I've noticed but.. I've seen fancier screens allright.
Yea it's all up to you but I say there are better alternatives if you look.

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The Z4 tablet still a great choice?

Guys,
I sent the Pixel C back. It died in 2 days. I was looking at the Sony Z4 tab along with the google one. Now I am looking back at it. Is that Sony Z4 tablet still a fantastic tablet? Issues? Just looking for overall comments before I look to find one to buy..I dont see them for sale much right now so I find it might be hard to get one anyway. But thought I would ask before I started looking..
Well I was in the same boat as you. I recently purchased the Nexus 9 lte tablet but wasn't happy with it due to the poor construction and some light bleed issues in the screen so I decided to look for this Z4 in Amazon and got it for $589.00 Free shipping and no Tax. Man best choice I've ever made! Really well build table, super thin, great speakers and water proof. Doesn't have many development support or Roms support but you can root it, install Xposed, debloat it and live with it.....oh and great battery life. Compatible with T-mobile and At&t LTE even it says 4G.
Yes is still a great option almost a year after of his released.
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My topic My Z4 Tablet Pros and Cons gives some of my and other's thoughts that are still relevant for the most part.
Also, the tablet flies on Marshmallow. I'm still super happy with my choice.
Does anyone think they might come out with a replacement for it anytime soon?
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Well I was in the same boat as you. I recently purchased the Nexus 9 lte tablet but wasn't happy with it due to the poor construction and some light bleed issues in the screen so I decided to look for this Z4 in Amazon and got it for $589.00 Free shipping and no Tax. Man best choice I've ever made! Really well build table, super thin, great speakers and water proof. Doesn't have many development support or Roms support but you can root it, install Xposed, debloat it and live with it.....oh and great battery life. Compatible with T-mobile and At&t LTE even it says 4G.
Yes is still a great option almost a year after of his released.
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The problem with android tablets is that they do not sell well. That causes OEMs to only release mid to low end tablets perpetuating the situation. It's a sort of a self-fulfilling prophecy. Instead of making their tablets better so that they can sell better, they make them worse so they sell even worse than before.
That lets (as a result) old tablets to still be excellent. For example my Note Tablet is the best pen-based tablet to this day (maybe ipad pro 9.7 will change that), portable, unlike the 12inch behemoths and awesome functionality coming out of the pen.
Similarly Xperia Z4 remains even after a year of its release one of the best if not *the* best tablet, period. It's the lightest 10 incher ever created by far, making it the only choice for heavy readers. After MarshMallow some of the best battery lives in the industry, excellent screen and the lack of Roms can be fixed by xposed (which pretty much has *all* the features of custom roms).
Still whilst my wife has one, I won't buy one for myself because I don't want to support Sony's ridiculous DRM-Warranty policy. If that doesn't bother you, I don't think you can go wrong with this tablet, I'm hard pressed to find anything better (maybe ipad pro if you don't mind jailbreaking).
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Excellent point.

LG G5 vs OnePlus 3

Hi, Guys!
I've been a massive tinkerer of phones since 2012, but since then, I have only been using flagships from yesteryears or Nexus.
Currently I am using Droid Turbo as my daily driver as it is personally is the better performer than Nexus 5x (Batt Life is extremely important to me).
Now I am looking to upgrade, and since prices of Oneplus 3 and LG G5 is roughly the same (G5 is actually cheaper here in PH)
I would like to know which one would you prefer.
I really am having a hard time deciding but I am narrowing it down to personal pro/con preferences
G5:
MicroSD slot - since my nexus 7 2013 is dying, I plan to consolidate all media to one phone and this is a big plus
Better Camera - The last great camera I had was Galaxy S5. Nexus 5x and Droid Turbo are just not fun to shoot with
Build / Bootloop Issue - I really really don't find G5 physically appealing add the fact that some units have bootloop issues
LG UI - I love stock
OnePlus 3:
Build - OnePlus looks fantastic to me
Stock Feel - Feels stock with non-obtrusive addition
Tinkerabilityl - OP has always been easy to tinker with
Non-Expandable Storage - The most glaring weakness of Op3 amdist 64GB Internal
LTE Connectivity - The Op3 available in PH are chinese version which do not have band 5 which could make the experience all the more frustrating. Philippines already has s**t networks with limited LTE support depending on where you live,
Further Notes:
As you can see, battery life is not mentioned since both has garnered mixed reviews. I also did not count Op3's camera as a con since it is a good performer.
Hope you guys can share your insights!
More power!
I am with OnePlus One and LG G4, and I've been thinking about upgrading to G5.
LG makes excellent smart phone camera, but the build quality has always been problematic.
So far we are having these issue on G5:
1/Bootloop
2/Screen Burn-in
3/GPS issue
If you prefer a reliable phone,OP3 is a better choice, but the 1080P AMO screen sucks.
I have both phones and I recommend the LG. I stopped tinkering and flashing roms. Oneplus is good for flashing new roms and do on not for anything else. My g5 doesn't bootloop or screen burn-in or gps issue. Camera, screen, sound extra sd card are the thing. Oneplus is an obscure experimental savvy phone
Well, my G5 (H850) is just perfect. Battery lasts about 5-6 hours SOT. GPS is also perfect.
I used to have OPO and @ItsNewDroid is right. You'll be flashing new ROMs almost every other day.
My vote goes for G5.
I'm using the H860 variant and so far no problems at all.
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I'm using the H860 variant and so far no problems at all.
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Norman3000 said:
Hi, Guys!
I've been a massive tinkerer of phones since 2012, but since then, I have only been using flagships from yesteryears or Nexus.
Currently I am using Droid Turbo as my daily driver as it is personally is the better performer than Nexus 5x (Batt Life is extremely important to me).
Now I am looking to upgrade, and since prices of Oneplus 3 and LG G5 is roughly the same (G5 is actually cheaper here in PH)
I would like to know which one would you prefer.
I really am having a hard time deciding but I am narrowing it down to personal pro/con preferences
G5:
MicroSD slot - since my nexus 7 2013 is dying, I plan to consolidate all media to one phone and this is a big plus
Better Camera - The last great camera I had was Galaxy S5. Nexus 5x and Droid Turbo are just not fun to shoot with
Build / Bootloop Issue - I really really don't find G5 physically appealing add the fact that some units have bootloop issues
LG UI - I love stock
OnePlus 3:
Build - OnePlus looks fantastic to me
Stock Feel - Feels stock with non-obtrusive addition
Tinkerabilityl - OP has always been easy to tinker with
Non-Expandable Storage - The most glaring weakness of Op3 amdist 64GB Internal
LTE Connectivity - The Op3 available in PH are chinese version which do not have band 5 which could make the experience all the more frustrating. Philippines already has s**t networks with limited LTE support depending on where you live,
Further Notes:
As you can see, battery life is not mentioned since both has garnered mixed reviews. I also did not count Op3's camera as a con since it is a good performer.
Hope you guys can share your insights!
More power!
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I Have the G5 for about 4 months now and the bottom line is just PERFECT no issues such as bootloops, burn in screen, GPS Performance is top notch aimply blazing fast i feel like this phone is pushing the boundaries of smartphones speed, my antutu score ia 147,356, The screen is the ideal size for the majority of people and the Display is stunning natural colors(not punchy like amoled which might seem strange but i don't prefer it), the build quality is great and i swear it feels like actual metal in addition to the VERY cold feeling every morning, camera is the best one
Verdict
Performance-Best among smartphones
Display-One of the best in the market
Camera-Main is magnificent and the wide is definitely not a gimmick
Hardware:- audio, fingerprint scanner and everything else is great
Battery-SOT 5 hours and 30 minutes on average
Easily the best smartphone ever
I had a dilemma berween S7 Egde and G5. Happy with my choice. I would have taken the S7 Edge if it offered a bit more in the camera department, but as it is...it's kinda limited. Oneplus offers really nothing better other than build quality and price. Oh and the cool volume switch. If I would buy a phone right now , it would be the V20.
Buy both OP3 and G5, first G5 if not satisfy go for OP3 I think, thanks
G5 for the win. Anyone change the battery every day? If yes how is the the bottom cover holding?any damage?
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Thanks for your input guys. I'm actually reading and watching G5 reviews. I'm now more inclined to get a G5 since LG also has a good update track record as of late
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I have both phones and I recommend the LG. I stopped tinkering and flashing roms. Oneplus is good for flashing new roms and do on not for anything else. My g5 doesn't bootloop or screen burn-in or gps issue. Camera, screen, sound extra sd card are the thing. Oneplus is an obscure experimental savvy phone
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Same here : Don't own an OP 3, but my G5 is perfect, simply. No GPS, screen, bootloop issues and a SOT over 4h everyday with LTE and BT always on, I'm happy.

G2 in 2017

All discussions about buying new phone or advise not to upgrade goes in this thread.
Personally, I wouldn't mind keeping the G2 but I will need to replace the battery on mine if I shall keep using it. Normal since I've had the phone for 2 years now.
I got the phone for almost 3 years now, never changed the battery - always charging with LG's charger and having nice battery life [CM and Stock, whatever you prefer]
I don't see any good reason to move on, nothing has dramatically changed yet. Fingerprint? Wireless charging?
So I think we can stick to our good old G2 for a bit more...
My G2 has 3 years already and is perfect. I picked it up already used and still have nice battery life, around 5 to 7 hours of SOT. I'm on my second G2, this one with 32GB of internal memory and I don't see any good reason to spend a lot of money that I don't have on a new device that doesn't add that much. I plan to keep my G2 for like one year or more. Don't really feel changing it anytime soon.
Would be nice to have a really functionality MM rom. I tested most roms, but the camera and sound are bad. The smoothness of the custom Roms are very good. So what to do? I think the Rom development stocks. I have to stay on stock Rom to have all working fine. But in future I see apps not working or very laggy working with the "old" LP Rom. So my experience in the past with my tab.
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3 years here too. Not gonna make it much longer, the digitizer is going bad on the bottom left. Looking at the Pixel, but want to wait to make sure there are no manufacturing issues (like exploding) before I take the plunge. I have a Nexus 9, I'm not too confident in HTC's build quality after the problems I've had with it.
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3 years here too. Not gonna make it much longer, the digitizer is going bad on the bottom left. Looking at the Pixel, but want to wait to make sure there are no manufacturing issues (like exploding) before I take the plunge. I have a Nexus 9, I'm not to confident in HTC's build quality after the problems I've had with it.
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Same thought.
I have g2 from 1 year. I have the 16 gb variant. I must tell that maybe i need less lags, a microsd slot and a lot of more battery... But i must keep it for another year, i can't change it.
I'm thinking in get another phone just because 16gb isn't enough anymore.
If I could find some hack to expand this 16gb internal storage, I would do it.
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I don't see any good reason to move on, nothing has dramatically changed yet. Fingerprint? Wireless charging?
So I think we can stick to our good old G2 for a bit more...
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Thats so true, realy no need for any new phone now, everything still works fluently.
Too bad Dorimanx and others already quit g2 developement and not much new developers
Second G2 here, the 32GB variety, I swapped out my first G2(16Gb) to the G3 hoping for all that upgrade coolness - nope, then the OnePlus1 - cheaper than the G3 etc, but the size started to bother me. So, I went back to the G2, I still have the 16GB first one which was battered close to death by my resident teenager so I picked up the second one very cheaply and would not swap it for anything. To my eyes and hands nothing made after it looks or handles much better, the G2 still has one of the best screen-to-size ratios - my favourite thing about it! I'm Running OrionOS MM, getting up to 5 hours screen time, LGCamera from the Playstore does a fair job of replacing the stock one, it even does 1080p @ 60fps. Of late the headphone socket has started acting up a bit .. off to Ebay for another 32Gb model, don't mind if I do!
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Of late the headphone socket has started acting up a bit .. off to Ebay for another 32Gb model, don't mind if I do!
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Same here, im thinking to maybe invest in some wireless headphones but then again, having to charge headphones almost daily may just make things even more annoying
Anyone who (upgraded) from G2 to OnePlus 3 with any thoughts about how the two devices compare?
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Anyone who (upgraded) from G2 to OnePlus 3 with any thoughts about how the two devices compare?
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No Oneplus 3 yet, I have this phone:
- G2 D802(32gb) bought new since 2013 I think
- G Pro2 32gb F350L, this device just similar to G2 but 5.9 inch screen, 3gb ram+sd card and much better sound from my experience.
- Htc one M8 32gb, this phone screen/speaker is good and performance is all right and reliable.
I have ordered Lg G4 (F500) it's coming in few days, so I will try it.
They are not new devices but with root and custom rom they still work quite good for me.
I think now you can get really good phone for $250-$400 with Xiaomi Mi5/5s, LeEco Pro2/3, Zuk Z2/Pro, Oneplus 3, Lg G5 so many choices. For speed I seen reviews Oneplus 3 is top dog, with new Huawei Honor8 5.2inch is good too if you like small phone.
For good multimedia/audio experience maybe Lenovo Vibe X3 cost less than ZTE Axzon 7 in my opinion.
by next year, our beloved G2 will have android nougat that too stable version , thanks to developers working all day and night.
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by next year, our beloved G2 will have android nougat that too stable version , thanks to developers working all day and night.
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We already have Nougat, some more stable than others AICP,CRdroid etc
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We already have Nougat, some more stable than others AICP,CRdroid etc
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link please, can we use it as daily driver? taking pics, no heating prob, battery life and smooth and lag free?
FatherD said:
Second G2 here, the 32GB variety, I swapped out my first G2(16Gb) to the G3 hoping for all that upgrade coolness - nope, then the OnePlus1 - cheaper than the G3 etc, but the size started to bother me. So, I went back to the G2, I still have the 16GB first one which was battered close to death by my resident teenager so I picked up the second one very cheaply and would not swap it for anything. To my eyes and hands nothing made after it looks or handles much better, the G2 still has one of the best screen-to-size ratios - my favourite thing about it! I'm Running OrionOS MM, getting up to 5 hours screen time, LGCamera from the Playstore does a fair job of replacing the stock one, it even does 1080p @ 60fps. Of late the headphone socket has started acting up a bit .. off to Ebay for another 32Gb model, don't mind if I do!
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Could you give me a link to webcam app?
Let us know how you like the G4.
Have to agree with how many choices are available for 250-400!
So many good phones are out now
Moon75 said:
No Oneplus 3 yet, I have this phone:
- G2 D802(32gb) bought new since 2013 I think
- G Pro2 32gb F350L, this device just similar to G2 but 5.9 inch screen, 3gb ram+sd card and much better sound from my experience.
- Htc one M8 32gb, this phone screen/speaker is good and performance is all right and reliable.
I have ordered Lg G4 (F500) it's coming in few days, so I will try it.
They are not new devices but with root and custom rom they still work quite good for me.
I think now you can get really good phone for $250-$400 with Xiaomi Mi5/5s, LeEco Pro2/3, Zuk Z2/Pro, Oneplus 3, Lg G5 so many choices. For speed I seen reviews Oneplus 3 is top dog, with new Huawei Honor8 5.2inch is good too if you like small phone.
For good multimedia/audio experience maybe Lenovo Vibe X3 cost less than ZTE Axzon 7 in my opinion.
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I just love my g2. Is there anything in the market similar ? After three years the main problems for me are scratched rear camera. Bluetooth needing reboots to work. And finally the constant need after rebooting to enter a code to change to 4g. Won't be changing it any time soon.
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I just love my g2. Is there anything in the market similar ? After three years the main problems for me are scratched rear camera. Bluetooth needing reboots to work. And finally the constant need after rebooting to enter a code to change to 4g. Won't be changing it any time soon.
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Sounds like custom ROM problems. Try sticking to LG based ROMs - if you already are, then try an LG kitkat ROM. 4.4 has always worked best for me.

Is the OPX still worth it in 2020?

Hey OPX owners!
I have a weird question for you guys.
Currently I'm owning a OnePlus 7 Pro. But as a second phone I would like to buy a OPX (I don't know why I would need another one but I really love the aesthetics of the OPX).
Do you guys still recommend this phone in 2020? What are some advantages/disadvantages?
I don't want to replace my 7 Pro but I would like to use the OPX from time to time (especially with custom roms because I love rooting and things like that). I know that the custom ROM section of the OPX is nearly dead, but I saw that AEX and Lineage are still supported.
I would be glad to hear your stories and what you think about that idea. The OPX I could buy costs 70 Euros (78 USD), is it too much? The phone itself is in a good condition with no scratches.
Or do you guys think I should look for a OnePlus One instead?
Honestly if you're looking to buy a device to test custom ROMs and other software, go for the One. It has a way larger dev community, and is still supported officially by LineageOS. If you want a more compact and aesthetically pleasing device and can't think of anything else to burn that 70€ on, then the X is still a decent device to use as a backup phone. It has a great screen, awesome build quality and looks that hold up to this day despite the large bezels. Don't expect blazing fast performance, great battery life and an impeccable camera as you'll be disappointed. If you have realistic expectations from a device that's nearly 5 years old and all but abandoned and forgotten by the manufacturer and most of the community save for a dedicated cult following, then go for it. I've been using the X as my main phone since it came out, and the only thing that's pushing me towards upgrading is the tiny storage (16gb is really not enough in 2020, especially if you use a lot of apps and/or play games). I don't really use that many apps and I still barely get by, and the card reader is so slow that I'd never recommend installing apps on an sd card. Here's hoping that the rumored OnePlus 8 lite will live up to its spiritual predecessor in price to performance.
I have to agree. The OPX is the right size for me and has the same processor as the OP1, but there's not a lot of development going on with what is essentially a concept phone
I've been using my OPX since 2015; my brother gifted one to me pretty much right after it came out.
I can't speak to the relative size of dev communities, but I've had some fun trying different ROMs on it. Currently running "/e/" ("e.foundation") - which has been interesting, having all of the Google stuff excised (though I did eventually add some Google apps/services myself because I'm so used to them). Before I switched over, I was having a lot of problems with the stock OS acting up after years of auto updates. Now it runs beautifully. The camera leaves something to be desired (though actually the photo quality was better when using the stock camera software, so with the right app and settings it might be better), but that's not a big deal for me. I've also never had a problem installing/running apps on the SD card.
I love the form factor of the OPX. When I first got it, it seemed HUGE - but these days it's small and sleek compared to a lot of the smartphones I see. I actually get quite a few compliments on it. Folks are surprised to learn that it's an old model. Actually a big part of what spurred me to do the work of installing a custom ROM was that I didn't want to have to buy a new phone; I didn't like the look/size of any of the other options. With the custom ROM, I'll probably still be using this phone for another 4-5 years!
I have been using opx since the premiere with wooden case. A year ago I sent him to service to change my battery. I have always custom rom on my opx (on 8.1 by yummemuchi right now, but I think sultan rom is the best for opx) waiting for stable android 9.
The phone works well, looks nice and I don't feel like changing it.
The only thing I would like to change in it is:
- add nfc
- better battery
- processor
- faster memory
I just bought an OPX yesterday for $100 CAD and flashed POSP on it and it's working pretty great, super stable for a daily driver.
Camera is better than some older phones but really not great, especially on ROMs without the OOS cam it's pretty bad.
I wish the performance was better, I think if you overclock it a little it would feel more smooth. But the battery life would suffer and it's not that great already.
It's a great phone to tinker with and my girlfriend is currently using it as a daily driver.
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I just bought an OPX yesterday for $100 CAD and flashed POSP on it and it's working pretty great, super stable for a daily driver.
Camera is better than some older phones but really not great, especially on ROMs without the OOS cam it's pretty bad.
I wish the performance was better, I think if you overclock it a little it would feel more smooth. But the battery life would suffer and it's not that great already.
It's a great phone to tinker with and my girlfriend is currently using it as a daily driver.
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Yeah, it's a great phone but performance wise it could be better.
Have you tried AEX, too? It's still under development and POSP is abandoned.
I'm not sure if any of those roms is better, because I really like POSP but I'm using AEX because of the newer updates.
Maybe I should give POSP a second chance.
Yeah, it's a great phone but performance wise it could be better.
Have you tried AEX, too? It's still under development and POSP is abandoned.
I'm not sure if any of those roms is better, because I really like POSP but I'm using AEX because of the newer updates.
Maybe I should give POSP a second chance.
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I haven't tried AEX yet, would you say it gives better performance than POSP?
Only as a secondary phone i reckon. I'm only keeping this phone because i just love it's beauty,however it is such a delicate darling. The glass sandwich device with AMOLED is a treat for something which sells for mere 50 dollars in used market where i live. So no point selling the beauty for so cheap. Also the spares are hard to find. My power button was broken from inside (not the actual smd internal power button but the one which we physically press), had to disassemble the whole device and i had to do DIY repair on it by literally rebuilding it with a piece of plastic from where it was broken from the other side.
The custom Rom scene is almost dead now, i'm currently on AEX which had the last update done months back.
Having said that, i kept it in pretty much new like condition by using it sparingly.
One good thing was last i checked with the service center for spares, they were providing free battery replacement where i live.
Anyway,how is your Oneplus x holding up?
it has the same form factor as iphone SE 2020. if you are using LOS 17.1 then it is worth it.
Seems to be a pretty decent phone, batteries might become an issue, as they always are,
And halting of constant pdates via the community on XDA, might also limit this phones utility.
But for a 4 year old phone, that's still going strong, I think not bad at all.
I think so! I still use my OPX as my primary phone. I love the small form factor, dual SIMs and FM radio. I'm not aware of any modern devices that compare. I had the battery replaced about a year and a half ago.
Thank goodness for the custom ROM scene here, because OnePlus abandoned support almost immediately.

Question Would you recommend this phone and what version 8/16GB

So I'm looking for a new phone, with a bit more power.
Would you recommend this phone, I saw a couple of posts about sw issues, how serious is it?
I'm trying to decide between this one and the oneplus 10t, which is on sale right now.
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So I'm looking for a new phone, with a bit more power.
Would you recommend this phone, I saw a couple of posts about sw issues, how serious is it?
I'm trying to decide between this one and the oneplus 10t, which is on sale right now.
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Well, I haven't had software problems.
I come from a OnePlus9 pro and there I had more software problems. It would once crash and the screen would go black and couldn't be unlocked. I felt worse with the OP than I did with the Zenfone9.
Asus has updated my phone once every month. That in OnePlus did not happen to me.
In short, it depends on the personal experience of each one.
And if you can, go for the 16gb, but you will only have it black... I love red model! Snif...
I write to you from a black Zenfone9 16gb with the official beta of Android 13.
I would go for thisone over the 10T. OnePlus Software is just not good anymore. This fone is what OnePlus was onces.
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I would go for thisone over the 10T. OnePlus Software is just not good anymore. This fone is what OnePlus was onces.
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Pretty much, the OP9 was the last OnePlus before they got fully merged into oppo. Check the OnePlus 10P/T forums here to see all the problems.
I came to this phone from OP 7T Pro, there are few things I don't like (the camera is not as great as I hoped and the bezels around the display are pretty huge, especially after coming from 7T Pro), but overall it is a great phone. The FP reader is the best I ever tried, it unlocks on instant, it cannot be any quicker, I love the small footprint, this is the main reason I went for this phone. I hate those huge 6.7"+ devices, I have short thumb. And all the small phones are usually low or mid tier, this one is a proper high tier phone, very smooth and fast.
The battery is also awesome, almost 2x better than my OP 7T Pro, which wasn't too bad either. And I'm using 120Hz and AoD, I'm getting 6+ SOT easily. With 7T Pro I was getting 3-4 hours SOT
SW wise it is great, as someone wrote before me, it is what OnePlus used to be. Clean Android experience with few extras. I didn't have any major bugs, just small details, but ASUS is nicely active on their support forum, we are reporting bugs and they are working on them.
I'm currently on the A13 beta and I haven't noticed any major issues so far, smooth experience, good for daily driver.
AND FINALLY the home gesture bug is GONE in A13! Now my Niagara Launcher experience is smooth.
But you cannot judge the phone based on the support forums, all you can find there are issues, right? Nobody is posting on forum about good experiences, people usually post only if they encounter any issue. And there are issues with every phone
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But you cannot judge the phone based on the support forums, all you can find there are issues, right? Nobody is posting on forum about good experiences, people usually post only if they encounter any issue. And there are issues with every phone
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Yeah I know, originally I planned to include something like "...of course people in support forums will always point out the issues..."
Thanks at all for the replies guess I'm going with this one!
Is this phone a good upgrade to the Pixel 5 ?
I've been satisfied with the pixel 5 in general - it feels great to hold, has good bezels, good camera and it's light.
Performance has been better than decent - for the apps and things I use it at least.
But still would like to have a snappier performance with the better chipset that the Zenfone 9 offers.
The only drawbacks I'm seeing with the new Asus Z 9 are the slightly thick bezels, it's weight, camera perf., and ROM development
As far as the camera goes - are the GCams giving any considerable improvements in the Z 9 ? The factory camera app is giving decent results but I think I like my Pixel 5 pics better from the comparisons that I'm seeing.
Also - what do you think ROM development would look like for this phone ? The love these phones get in the NA market is non-existent pretty much. And maybe Lineage will drop a ROM - but would like to see some ROMs dev. in the future.
I'm loving it so far. While I'm not enthused about the two years of updates instead of more, I am learning about ROM development and will post here when I can.
antonio_d25 said:
Is this phone a good upgrade to the Pixel 5 ?
I've been satisfied with the pixel 5 in general - it feels great to hold, has good bezels, good camera and it's light.
Performance has been better than decent - for the apps and things I use it at least.
But still would like to have a snappier performance with the better chipset that the Zenfone 9 offers.
The only drawbacks I'm seeing with the new Asus Z 9 are the slightly thick bezels, it's weight, camera perf., and ROM development
As far as the camera goes - are the GCams giving any considerable improvements in the Z 9 ? The factory camera app is giving decent results but I think I like my Pixel 5 pics better from the comparisons that I'm seeing.
Also - what do you think ROM development would look like for this phone ? The love these phones get in the NA market is non-existent pretty much. And maybe Lineage will drop a ROM - but would like to see some ROMs dev. in the future.
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I have a Pixel 5, too, though currently as a backup. Performance is okay on that one, but I can't believe how much better 120 Hz on the ZP9 feels than the 90 Hz on P5. Battery life is also much better, too: P5 is 10-11%/hr screen on rate, ~1% screen off rate; ZP9 is ~8% screen on rate, ~0.8% screen off rate. (Accubattery)
If price isn't an obstacle, I'd recommend it.
I wouldn't change this phone for anything. I upgraded from Zenfone 8, as the one thing that was missing was a physical fingerprint reader (rather than the under-screen one).
The software experience also feels much smoother (stock) than what it was on Zenfone 8 (which I later rooted and flashed wtih LineageOS). I am content keeping this one stock.
i currently have the samsung galaxy s20 5g and debating on i bought the zenfone 9 and try to decide whether to stick with it the Z9 or S20
I have to say this is a great compact phone. Almost as good as the old sony xperia xz1 compact.
The battery life on this phone is awesome, Im running with 4.5 hours screen time so far and 2 days stand by and I still have about 41% battery life.
performance is great, the camera is not bad, however those huge lenses do stick out like a sore thumb.
but overall if you can get this phone on special price, its well worth it.
redavenger said:
I have to say this is a great compact phone. Almost as good as the old sony xperia xz1 compact.
The battery life on this phone is awesome, Im running with 4.5 hours screen time so far and 2 days stand by and I still have about 41% battery life.
performance is great, the camera is not bad, however those huge lenses do stick out like a sore thumb.
but overall if you can get this phone on special price, its well worth it.
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https://t.me/ViPER4AndroidFXchannel Here is the official link just open it in Telegram
redavenger said:
I have to say this is a great compact phone. Almost as good as the old sony xperia xz1 compact.
The battery life on this phone is awesome, Im running with 4.5 hours screen time so far and 2 days stand by and I still have about 41% battery life.
performance is great, the camera is not bad, however those huge lenses do stick out like a sore thumb.
but overall if you can get this phone on special price, its well worth it.
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