Some problems with Amazfit BIP - Amazfit

Hi @All
I have some issues with my Amazfit bip.
First some informations:
Firmware: 1.1.6.48
A-GPS: up to date
Now to my problems:
1. If I start a workout like Outdoor running my amazfit ne approx 7-10 min to get GPS connection. And I'm not inside my Appartement.
2. I have no Idea what I have to configure to use Amazfit original app and Notify& Fitness for Amazfit together.
I like Notify a lot but I think that the Firmware Update Process from the Original App is just better.
I also don't want the permanent Notifications from both apps in notification bar.
Can you help me please?
Best regards
Stephan

N & F can be used together with MiFit or by itself by pairing the BIP with it.
While I prefer N & F for pretty much everything and use it without MiFit, there is one problem - N & F can't update the AGPS, so you would have to use MiFit for that.
However, I also don't understand why your GPS connection takes so long, since it's up to date.
If you run both apps, I don't think there's any way to get around the need for persistent notifications for each, to make sure they aren't killed by Android.
Sorry I couldn't actually be of much help!

Is there someone who can help me with my major problem?
Best regards,
Stephan

Malli2602 said:
Hi @All
I have some issues with my Amazfit bip.
First some informations:
Firmware: 1.1.6.48
A-GPS: up to date
Now to my problems:
1. If I start a workout like Outdoor running my amazfit ne approx 7-10 min to get GPS connection. And I'm not inside my Appartement.
2. I have no Idea what I have to configure to use Amazfit original app and Notify& Fitness for Amazfit together.
I like Notify a lot but I think that the Firmware Update Process from the Original App is just better.
I also don't want the permanent Notifications from both apps in notification bar.
Can you help me please?
Best regards
Stephan
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Amazfit GPS drifting problem, findout the reason.

I and all you guys may met that problems many times before, and after doing many test I can see the cause of the problem. This time I show you one case I have just done it few hours ago:
- First I'm using iphone (but it not effect to the test)
- Amazfit app, change to us verson (simple just change the region to my country), so it will sync the activity to Strava.
- Watch Rom: us official 1.3.3a (the result is the same with dev PACEfied rom)
- Do the ride test around, with many turn.
- Sync the activity to Strava, go to strava export TCX file.
- Export TCX file directly from the watch. (How to)
****Okay, now compare:
Strava activity link: https://www.strava.com/activities/1068275813
TCX file export from strava and watch (see attachment files)
How to compare: import TCX files to this size: http://www.gpsvisualizer.com/map_input?form=google
The result you can see at pictures attachment.
****Conclusion:
- The original GPS file from the watch is very good, no drifting at all.
- After syncing to Strava, GPS route change alot, drifting happens.
- So the issue here is the step "syncing to Strava"
****Solution:
I have no solution, because I am not the engineer from Huami, I hope people from Huami/Xiaomi see this post and will fix this problem. I have read many feedback from Amazon, Facebook group that they have to give back the watch because the drifting problem. Maybe Strava is not fair to change something when syncing (my thinking). The watch is really good but this problem made many people disappointed.
It is "easy" to spot what happens.
while the Amazfit saves the coordinates with 15 decimal places Strava uses only 6 ( and adds a 0 ).
If we take the first entry
Amazfit:
<Time>2017-07-05T04:35:20Z</Time>
<Position>
<LatitudeDegrees>10.391833305358887</LatitudeDegrees>
<LongitudeDegrees>107.10086822509766</LongitudeDegrees>
</Position>
</Trackpoint>
Strava
<Time>2017-07-05T04:35:20Z</Time>
<Position>
<LatitudeDegrees>10.3918330</LatitudeDegrees>
<LongitudeDegrees>107.1008680</LongitudeDegrees>
</Position>
You can see that there is a difference, but a small one ( ~13cm )
If you then go to
Amazfit:
<Time>2017-07-05T04:40:57Z</Time>
<Position>
<LatitudeDegrees>10.385744094848633</LatitudeDegrees>
<LongitudeDegrees>107.11280822753906</LongitudeDegrees>
</Position>
Strava
<Time>2017-07-05T04:40:57Z</Time>
<Position>
<LatitudeDegrees>10.3857360</LatitudeDegrees>
<LongitudeDegrees>107.1127090</LongitudeDegrees>
</Position>
Here the difference is ~10.8 meters.
so you want to tell me that the watch is very precise and Strava is castrating down the results ?!?!?!!
I have installed the python scripts and extracted the data to GPX files.
One of them I uploaded to Strava and then re downloaded it again.
And the downloaded one was with Single precision.
But it was only off on a few points in a 12.5 Km run.
So it is a combination of Strava storing everything as a single ( not double ) .
But even there the data from the Amazfit was drifting, but it was a run through a forest.
If it was only for the precision it wouldn't really matter that much ( maximum of ~0.5 meters ).
So it seems that
1 - The Amazfit is drifting, and
2 - the upload to Strava sometimes does a strange "correction" to the data.
Thanks a lot Trần :good: this has been reported to the team and we are looking into it.
1immortal said:
so you want to tell me that the watch is very precise and Strava is castrating down the results ?!?!?!!
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Just my thinking, the problem happened when syncing to Strava, and we got the bad final result.
fzelle said:
I have installed the python scripts and extracted the data to GPX files.
One of them I uploaded to Strava and then re downloaded it again.
And the downloaded one was with Single precision.
But it was only off on a few points in a 12.5 Km run.
So it is a combination of Strava storing everything as a single ( not double ) .
But even there the data from the Amazfit was drifting, but it was a run through a forest.
If it was only for the precision it wouldn't really matter that much ( maximum of ~0.5 meters ).
So it seems that
1 - The Amazfit is drifting, and
2 - the upload to Strava sometimes does a strange "correction" to the data.
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Sorry for my bad, I dont follow your words (Single precision and Double), are you using your record or my files? Maybe it better with picture, thanks.
netzkobold said:
Thanks a lot Trần :good: this has been reported to the team and we are looking into it.
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Thank you so much for your responding! :good:
Single/double Precision is a programming/computing term.
Compared to Double they have a smaller range and therefore are easier to store, but not as accurate.
1.2.27 CN
[bold]- Update the GPS firmware
- Optimize the drift of GPS
[/bold]
- New voice control meter air purifier function (such as: open the living room of the air purifier, the air purifier set to automatic mode)
- Repair of some cases caused by the speed or speed display abnormal situation
@netzkobold:
Can we expect this for the pace ( US ) as well?
Has anyone reported this solution to the Huami- team and got a positive feedback to solve the problem in the next update?
mumfordfan said:
Has anyone reported this solution to the Huami- team and got a positive feedback to solve the problem in the next update?
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If netzkobold said that it was reported to the team, trust me, Huami are working on it.
I also have this problem. The drift is sometimes 20+ meters from the road so some Strava segments are not captured. I have downloaded the raw data from the watch (gpx file via python script) and uploaded that manually to Strava and it is perfect. Definitely something is happening when you sync to Strava via the Amazfit app. I can upload my files if anyone is interested.

Anyone helping building a new companion app to send data to the Stratos/Pace Watch?

Hi there,
i'm trying to build a companion app similar to watchdroid with wich i can send data to the watch and display them on a widget/springboard.
In my case i wan't to have my blood glucose level on my watch as i was used to with my android wear watch.
I have a simply app made with taske wich can read out a json from my nightscout site. This sadly work only via wifi.
Main problem is the bluetooth comunication. i've tried so many simply bluetooth apps and librarys via sideload. I can't even tell how many. Non of them worked out. Only some worked in watch to phone direction but not the other - desired - way. In almost every case, my phone could'nt even find the watch.
But since watch droid got it working, i know there is a way.
There is another way to get data to the watch: the notification system. Since i also could'nt get the notification listener to work on the watch, it is also not a starting point for me.
Last chance i see is automizing watchdroid and sending a file at a regulary scedule and reading this from the widget.
For the moment i just use Notify and fitness cause the Phone notification with my glucose level is persistent and the huami app ignores persistent notifications.
But get a new notification with my glucose level every 5 Minutes. On the phone the notification gets just updated, on the watch i get a new one. Over the day the notification stack gets fuller and fuller...
I'm not talking about geting this into a watchface, thats the next step after the next hundreds of steps.
Any help and tipps are welcome.
When a notification is dismissed on the phone, it should dismiss on the watch.
If you have the source to this app, you could make it dismiss it's notification and send a new one.
Klaus3d said:
Hi there,
i'm trying to build a companion app similar to watchdroid with wich i can send data to the watch and display them on a widget/springboard.
In my case i wan't to have my blood glucose level on my watch as i was used to with my android wear watch.
I have a simply app made with taske wich can read out a json from my nightscout site. This sadly work only via wifi.
Main problem is the bluetooth comunication. i've tried so many simply bluetooth apps and librarys via sideload. I can't even tell how many. Non of them worked out. Only some worked in watch to phone direction but not the other - desired - way. In almost every case, my phone could'nt even find the watch.
But since watch droid got it working, i know there is a way.
There is another way to get data to the watch: the notification system. Since i also could'nt get the notification listener to work on the watch, it is also not a starting point for me.
Last chance i see is automizing watchdroid and sending a file at a regulary scedule and reading this from the widget.
For the moment i just use Notify and fitness cause the Phone notification with my glucose level is persistent and the huami app ignores persistent notifications.
But get a new notification with my glucose level every 5 Minutes. On the phone the notification gets just updated, on the watch i get a new one. Over the day the notification stack gets fuller and fuller...
I'm not talking about geting this into a watchface, thats the next step after the next hundreds of steps.
Any help and tipps are welcome.
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Hello,
what application do you use to get a notification every 5 minutes ??? you use a FreeStyle Free blood glucose sensor ??? I will be very happy to read you to know if you succeeded !!!
astrarico said:
Hello,
what application do you use to get a notification every 5 minutes ??? you use a FreeStyle Free blood glucose sensor ??? I will be very happy to read you to know if you succeeded !!!
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Yes, it's freestyle libre with ambrosia blucon nightrider for nfc readout and transmission every 5 min. The app i use is xdrip+.
The notification is persistent to keep the data collector service running, to show the value on the notificatiin icon even on the aod of samsungs.
Klaus3d said:
Yes, it's freestyle libre with ambrosia blucon nightrider for nfc readout and transmission every 5 min. The app i use is xdrip+.
The notification is persistent to keep the data collector service running, to show the value on the notificatiin icon even on the aod of samsungs.
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ah yes anyway, the price of "ambrosia blucon nightrider" as we say at home "it stings the eyes". before you give me the answer I was wondering how you did to get back the FreeStyle scan, so I understand. on the other hand to use the nightscout, it is a little the course of the fighter ... a lot of account to create. damage that the app glimp or other does not regroup suddenly!
It's currently my intention to build a framework for both phone and watch to allow apps to get data from the internet at some point in the next few months. I'm stuck with work to do at the moment so don't have any time to put towards projects (especially not big ones like that) but in the future - probably
I'd ideally also like to get Android Wear (not Wear OS, it's an old version) working too, to allow at least some companion apps to function (Sleep as Android, Keep etc.). I've got the framework working fine (which does improve app compatibility, but no communication still severely limits what they can do), but the two way Bluetooth connection throws an error that I cannot find any documentation about, so it's on hold for now until I have sufficient time to investigate properly
This would be awesome to have a framework like this. In my case i would'nt even need real internet access, due to the web service is localy provided by the xdrip app. But this would open so many things and possible options to code. Let me know if i could help. I'm also short in time but willing to help.
Getting Android wear working on the pace/stratos would also be great. I tried out sideloading the micro apk for wear of xdrip+ and it worked out better than expected. No crashes from the app and even the integrated watchfaces were selectable. Of course there were no data shown and no low power watchface.
Klaus3d said:
Getting Android wear working on the pace/stratos would also be great. I tried out sideloading the micro apk for wear of xdrip+ and it worked out better than expected. No crashes from the app and even the integrated watchfaces were selectable. Of course there were no data shown and no low power watchface.
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It might actually be possible to build a newer version of Android, source code exists for the CPU and MIPS sources exist all the way up to Oreo, but again that would take time I don't have (and space for that matter)
Just wanted to let you know, that thanks to edotassi i have a working widget with my blood glucose values on my Stratos.
https://github.com/edotassi/AmazMod
https://github.com/edotassi/AmazModService
Now i'm fine tuning the widget and maybe also the nightscout parts of amazmod. But i'm still learning.
Klaus3d said:
Just wanted to let you know, that thanks to edotassi i have a working widget with my blood glucose values on my Stratos.
Now i'm fine tuning the widget and maybe also the nightscout parts of amazmod. But i'm still learning.
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Hi, great news. Will this work on Amazfit BIP ?
Since the Bip does not rely on the AmazFit Watch app, i'd say no.
Can you show on the photo the indications of the xdrip on the watch? how it works.
Hi, i'm now trying to integrate quinnys library into xDrip, to make thinks easy and to allow 2 way communication.
Since xDrip is a really big and complex project + i'm a noop i'm having trouble with providing a switch in the menus and finding the right place to start the service from. Maybe someone can help me out again.
I am also really interest of amazfit bit. I saw now, xdrip have one section called "amazfit synk service" look like can connect with this kind of phones. Are there news to see the value on the display?
Tapiocapioca said:
I am also really interest of amazfit bit. I saw now, xdrip have one section called "amazfit synk service" look like can connect with this kind of phones. Are there news to see the value on the display?
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None of this will work with the Bip, it's too limited
Is there any way to implement the clockscreen or widget from Glimp instead of XDrip on the Stratosphere. I'm getting better use from Glimp and MiaoMiao.
Klaus3d said:
Just wanted to let you know, that thanks to edotassi i have a working widget with my blood glucose values on my Stratos.
https://github.com/edotassi/AmazMod
https://github.com/edotassi/AmazModService
Now i'm fine tuning the widget and maybe also the nightscout parts of amazmod. But i'm still learning.
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You should ask this the devs of glimp.

Lap time by gps position

Hi all,
I don't know if this already exist or if it is even possible from the technical perspective. I've tried to find how to do it, mainly trying to install one of the already existings apps for android but only one is compatible with the amazfit pace architecture and the result in the watch screen is to poor.
The point is to have a new activity in the smartwatch that record laps by GPS position (fe some garmin models do this as well). You set at the beginning a start point and every time you cross that point the activity set a new laptime. It will be usefull for different sports as for example circuit cycling or motorsports like go karts/motorbikes.
Does someone know if this is possible or if already exist something similar?
Regards
Which device? Pace and Stratos have a function called Autolapse which I guess is what you are looking.
nhedgehog said:
Which device? Pace and Stratos have a function called Autolapse which I guess is what you are looking.
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Hi nhedgehog, thanks for your reply.
I have an Amazfit Pace... I can see the autolap by distance or by time but can't find the autolap by gps start position or something called autolapse, where is that? Do you have any custom rom installed?
I don't think you can do it besides auto lap by distance or time, as most watches do. If you need anything else then probably you must export the GPX data on watch, transfer it to computer then use a third party service to edit the data.
I'll answer later, just switched the ROM, don't know if I got confused with all that new settings.
I'm on the Amazfit Pace Chines BETA 2.0.6.12 ROM. Here is a thread which lists the activity settings of some outdoor activities.
You are right I can't define a GPS position as Lap Starting. I have the possibility to define autolap by distance and set this alert on or off but not what you were looking for.
I also would be interested by this GPS lap function
WOS2 on Pace has an "Auto Lap" setting (with option of notification separate from the normal lap notification where you can set the lap length), most probably it exists on Stratos as well... Does it do what you need?

Amazfit GTR Questions

Hi a little question: is GTR able to import/export GPX files like Stratos does? to follow a prepared track. (when you plug it is there a GPXdata folder?)
i had a stratos which did that great but it died so i wonder if i by this new whach or go back to stratos.
Vincent
Hello,
I allow myself to join your post.
I would also have a question in addition to yours.
Is it possible to schedule interval training sessions?
like 30 * 30 seconds?
If so, is it configurable per second? And by distance?
thank you so much
GTR, like Verge lite or BIP, has no internal storage that is available for users, so probably you can't load any files to it.
The same goes for interval training: if Verge lite doesn't have it then GTR won't either (same OS, different body).
Thanks
It's still a regression from Amazfit.
They turn their products more into connected products and no longer into sports watches

Custom Firmware for GTR?

As everyone already knows, the GTR's GPS module is useless. I usually take my phone to my outdoors activities, so I wish I could track my activity using the phone's GPS. I can do this already using the Amazfit phone app, but this way I can't see the data through my watch. Isn't there any way to flash a custom firmware that has this feature?
I guess this is yet not possible cuz the code is not open source. If Amazfit shares the code then I think programmers can easily modify and make custom rom.
Use Notify and Fitness app and start a workout in N+F. It uses phone GPS and displays pace etc on amazfit watch.
Dr raman said:
Use Notify and Fitness app and start a workout in N+F. It uses phone GPS and displays pace etc on amazfit watch.
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I tried once, but I was not pleased. It showed the information as notification, making the watch vibrating all the time. And I couldn't read while cycling, because the notification text is not large enough.

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