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How do I completely freeze this service using T backup pro?
I freezed Gtalk 1.0.3 the app, but using Betterbatterystats reveal that gtalk_async_conn still resulting in partial wakelock timing
I have also noticed this.
Anyway we can stop it?
Still no solution? GTALK_ASYNC_CONN is my main Partial Wakelock in the Betterbatterystats (KH3 firmware) and heavy battery drainer with about 60 min of activity during 8 hours...
same problem with me...and no one on Google does not have a solution for this.
installed 'Better Battery Stats' to see what was keeping the phone up and it's "gtalk_async_conn". The thing is that I don't even use Google Talk. I tried to disable auto-login and freeze it with Titanium Backup without any luck. The only thing that worked was to disable 'Background data' but other apps like Market needs that option on.
Literally everyone appears to have this problem, i actually froze Talk in Titanium and have had no problems but is this Gtalk_async_conn related to this or what?
This problem persist more with google Maps 5.8, 5.9 version. I uninstalled the google maps and noticed that problem was solved, issue was not present anymore in wakelock of batterbatterystats. However it's not permanent solution.
same prob here. would be nice if s.o. has a solution
I also uninstalled Google Maps (rooted; used free edition of Titanium Backup) and it helped for a while -- got really minimal battery drain for several hours. But now the problem is back so I'm wondering if it might also be related to Market or Gmail.
I would say this is the answer.
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And it would explain why everyone has it.
That post might explain what it is, but it's not very helpful at solving the issue.
I turned off notifications in Market (some versions don't have this setting; try Market 3.1.3). If it still doesn't help then I am going to try turning off Gmail sync.
Turn off all syncing (gmail, calander, etc), turn off background data and you may have it disappear, also don't use anything that uses google c2d push notifications.
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I did the following:
- Uninstalled Google Maps (rooted; used free edition of Titanium Backup)
- Turned off notifications in Market (using Market 3.1.3)
- Turned off Google accounting syncing for everything except Gmail (background data / auto-sync still enabled)
Partial wakelocks for GTALK_ASYNC_CONN are now very low. Just a couple of seconds over 15+ hours of low use.
However I think I still have some battery drain (based on Battery Monitor Widget) so I am looking at other possibilities.
claimui said:
I did the following:
- Uninstalled Google Maps (rooted; used free edition of Titanium Backup)
- Turned off notifications in Market (using Market 3.1.3)
- Turned off Google accounting syncing for everything except Gmail (background data / auto-sync still enabled)
Partial wakelocks for GTALK_ASYNC_CONN are now very low. Just a couple of seconds over 15+ hours of low use.
However I think I still have some battery drain (based on Battery Monitor Widget) so I am looking at other possibilities.
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I am not trying to be a smartass but doesn't your battery monitor widget cause some battery drain?
hondaguy said:
I am not trying to be a smartass but doesn't your battery monitor widget cause some battery drain?
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Totally valid point. But I have also tried running it with Battery Monitor Widget turned off and I still see the same drain (by looking at the battery history graph).
Also while experimenting, I had a couple of hours where Battery Monitor Widget continuously reported -1mA battery discharge (while Battery Monitor Widget was running of course). The battery history graph was basically flat. So that tells me that I can still run Battery Monitor Widget and get minimal battery usage -- if everything else is working right.
In the Better Battery Stats thread, the developer says his target battery discharge is -2mA to -10mA (measured by Battery Monitor Widget). I know it's possible because I've gotten it before, but lately I'm somewhere around -70mA so that's what I've been working on.
Getting great battery life now with the Gtalk_async_conn issue seemingly gone. I still have Maps removed -- luckily I do not need it much these days. I also notice that Market likes to stay running in the background, where it uses some CPU time even with notifications disabled. Also, turning on Google Calendar auto-sync caused significant battery drain.
Quick summary:
- Uninstall/freeze Maps
- Kill Market if it's running in the background
- Turn off Google account syncing for everything except Gmail
- Turn off "Back up my data" under Privacy settings
I was at about 50% battery after 20 hours. I am running Cognition 1.5.1 with SpeedMod kernel.
claimui said:
Getting great battery life now with the Gtalk_async_conn issue seemingly gone. I still have Maps removed -- luckily I do not need it much these days. I also notice that Market likes to stay running in the background, where it uses some CPU time even with notifications disabled. Also, turning on Google Calendar auto-sync caused significant battery drain.
Quick summary:
- Uninstall/freeze Maps
- Kill Market if it's running in the background
- Turn off Google account syncing for everything except Gmail
I was at about 50% battery after 20 hours. I am running Cognition 1.5.1 with SpeedMod kernel.
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It's good to know that these mods work, but they are pretty extreme for me, and I would assume many others. I actively use the functionality of Maps and other Google account syncing. I hope that someone can work out a way to minimize the usage without cutting off the functionality completely.
For what it's worth, I see a dramatically higher usage of the GTALK process when I am at work where some of the syncs are blocked on the office wifi. Out of the office on 3G or at home, the amount of time GTALK is active is significantly reduced.
Atrix here but same issue. I agree if turning off syncs is the way to go, I might as well buy a dumbphone
I agree it's annoying. But the battery life improvement is dramatic, even more so than I mentioned in my earlier post. I used to get <20 hours per charge. Now I get about 3 days. Hopefully these are just bugs in the apps that Google will fix in future versions.
Not sure what is causing it. I have turned off auto-sync, logged out of gtalk, and even turned off "Back up my data" and "Automatic restore" from Settings>Privacy.
I still notice 1-2 minutes of partial wakelocks.
Try killing Market if it is running.
The last week or so since I got my HTC One Max, I have been slowly configuring it and setting it up to my tastes. On my previous phone, an HTC Rezound, I used an app called Clean Master to manage the phones ram, and Battery Doctor to extend its battery life. I tried an application called Battery Guru on my Max, but it actually drained the battery faster while the phone was not doing anything. After uninstalling it, my battery life seems to have shot upwards. I have not re-installed Battery Doctor. I have read the following things about these battery saver apps over the last few days:
1. Some say the applications are not needed and you should not use them, especially if they include a task manager. The logic was that Android was designed to have multiple apps in memory all the time, and closing them, then opening them again from scratch, uses up the battery.
2.Others have said just the opposite. They claim the applications greatly increase battery life. If you read the reviews on the Android Market about these two applications, that seems to be the case.
Both of these applications I have used get rave reviews from the many folks that have used them. Is the benefit they are seeing just imagined? Do the applications actually work? Is it also possible that they work for some and not others, since there are a lot of models of Android devices out there?
Most things that are ram "cleaners" are just giving you a slight point in time speed boost. Your ram will fill up again (as it should). Most so called battery doctors cripple your phone to extend battery life (think extreme power saver on the Max). What you want is something that blocks the applications that you do have running from performing activities in the background that you dont need at that moment ( think facebook looking for your location even when not using it just so it will know it faster when you open the app).
I use a combo of firewall to block most apps from using the internet (radio takes a lot of battery) and greenify which hibernates the app while keeping it in ram so it brings me into the app where I was before.
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The last week or so since I got my HTC One Max, I have been slowly configuring it and setting it up to my tastes. On my previous phone, an HTC Rezound, I used an app called Clean Master to manage the phones ram, and Battery Doctor to extend its battery life. I tried an application called Battery Guru on my Max, but it actually drained the battery faster while the phone was not doing anything. After uninstalling it, my battery life seems to have shot upwards. I have not re-installed Battery Doctor. I have read the following things about these battery saver apps over the last few days:
1. Some say the applications are not needed and you should not use them, especially if they include a task manager. The logic was that Android was designed to have multiple apps in memory all the time, and closing them, then opening them again from scratch, uses up the battery.
2.Others have said just the opposite. They claim the applications greatly increase battery life. If you read the reviews on the Android Market about these two applications, that seems to be the case.
Both of these applications I have used get rave reviews from the many folks that have used them. Is the benefit they are seeing just imagined? Do the applications actually work? Is it also possible that they work for some and not others, since there are a lot of models of Android devices out there?
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Try greenify
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Free ram is idle ram. Having a lot of ram usage isnt a bad thing... Don't know how many people think the opposite. Now if it gets too high then yea its an issue when opening new apps but this issue died with gingerbread in all reality. Some would argue task managers even died with froyo.
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Thanks everybody! I have installed Greenify, and removed Battery Doctor and Clean Sweep, and my phone is running great! I like it so much, I have put Greenify on my other Android tablets. No more battery saving apps or task managers for me!!
The trick is to properly manage the apps that you use.
The problem with task killers is that some apps that you kill will simply "respawn" themselves automatically in the background. Killing apps that do this just means your phone is constantly closing/opening the app again and again which is worse than not killing it in the first place. You will just have to experiment and check which apps respawn after killing them and avoid having the task killer auto-kill those apps, or uninstall those apps.
You also have battery saver apps that try to manage turning certain features on/off like WiFi, GPS and Blutooth. The most efficient way of managing this is to manually disable those features when you don't need them. Having an app do this for you means that app now has to be running all the time to manage those other features, which itself will ironically increase battery usage.
Avoiding as many apps as possible that need to constantly run in the background to perform it's function. These mostly include instant messenger apps or other apps that regularly check the internet for updates in the background. Either avoid them or if possible increase the delay between how often the app checks for updates/info. The Greenify app will allow you to "suspend/pause/freeze" specific apps when they are not currently on your screen. This keeps them from performing any activity in the background, and will help save battery if used on apps that would normally be doing tasks in the background. The downside is that if that app is suppose to be doing something while in the background, it won't be doing that anymore...like checking for updates, chat messages etc...
Keep screen brightness on automatic, so you don't waste power on a bright screen when in a darker environment.
These should be more than enough tips to help you better manage your battery.
Hi there ! Today my simple question is how to increase battery life of android mobile ! Please tell me some tips cause I'm tired ?
use a taskkiller to Close unused apps!
mflapp said:
use a taskkiller to Close unused apps!
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Never use a task killer
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- Turn off all unnecessary connections. That includes GPS, NFC, Locationservices, Sync, etc. That alone will save you days.
- Turn off WiFi when you're not using it.
- Greenify all apps before you turn the screen off. Android keeps apps running in the background for quick access, but it eats battery. Yes, greenifying them will mean they take a second longer to open, but it'll save battery life.
- Turn down the brightness. Use LUX to go below 0%. (Which doesn't actually mean the screen turns off.)
- Disable or delete all bloatware, or as much as you can.
- Using a MicroSD? Drop a .nomedia file in every folder that doesn't need to show up in a mediaplayer. (pdf's, comics, etc). You can still open the files through a filemanager, but MediaScanner/Indexingservice won't freeze on them.
- Turn off all unnecessary sensors. Especially if you're using a Samsung, those have quite a lot of sensors.
Is there a way to get NOTHING running in the background?
Maybe you should remove bloatwares using titanium backup im doing this on my galaxy note before. Even on my s2
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You should download du battery saver from playstore
X3RATH said:
Is there a way to get NOTHING running in the background?
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Developers options > Limit Background Processes > "No Background Processes".
Remember that this means that if you're writing an email, and you open the browser, the email is gone. If you're listening to music, that's it, you can't do anything else or the music app shuts down.
There is absolutely no need to use task killers or anything like that on an Android. Android is designed to run with apps cached for quick opening of them. And designed to run on little free memory.
As long as apps "behave", it will not affect your battery having them running in background. If the odd app does seem to cause trouble, try using Greenify to hibernate such apps.
Having no apps running will definitely cause more drain for you, as it takes more cpu power to initialize them every time you open them, or the system does. Hence why task killers do more harm than good. :good:
If you have battery issues, it's likely poor reception on data, an inefficient setup or app wakelocks. Use GSAM to see about that.
I'm seeing sluggish performance after turning my screen back on. My battery usage is already fairly good. I mainly am using Greenify to attempt to free up some memory. There are apps that I rarely use but don't want to uninstall (ie facebook, whatsapp, etc). The way I understand it, the more I hibernate, the more memory I save. However, I read that doing this too much can cause sluggish performance when waking up. How does this work exactly? I have noticed sluggish performance after turning the screen back up. However, what does this have to do with greenify? The apps are still hibernated.
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I'm seeing sluggish performance after turning my screen back on. My battery usage is already fairly good. I mainly am using Greenify to attempt to free up some memory. There are apps that I rarely use but don't want to uninstall (ie facebook, whatsapp, etc). The way I understand it, the more I hibernate, the more memory I save. However, I read that doing this too much can cause sluggish performance when waking up. How does this work exactly? I have noticed sluggish performance after turning the screen back up. However, what does this have to do with greenify? The apps are still hibernated.
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- Greenify won't directly free up memory
- sluggishness is likely do to multiple apps/services competing for resources when the device wakes; that's why native doze has occational​ maintenance windows
- aggressive doze can contribute to this behavior
- consider a start-up (broadcast receiver) blocker if the social media apps you reference are found running after the device starts; that way they never get loaded into memory in the first place
Can you recommenced a start-up blocker? this means the app will never be launched into memory unless I do it manually?
I thought that "greenify" will "compress" the program in memory causing it to use less. I don't want the app to be completely disabled (otherwise I could just freeze it). For example, if someone sends me a message on facebook (which is very rare), I'd like to know.
I am facing the issue you see in the title. When I check the battery usage, I find a lot of apps that have been active in the background for hours and hours on end.
I specifically set those apps to be "battery optimized", and I disallowed foreground and background activity/data. Still, turns out these apps do not care and stay active on the background.
These are not system apps, it's WhatsApp, Infinity For Reddit and some more. I do not want these apps to do ANYTHING unless I open them! What should I do?
It's pretty normal for apps to run for hours (or all the time) in background , it doesn't necessarily mean they consume resources , what are their battery % consumption in the battery apps statistics ? On my phone whatsapp or Telegram only consume 2~5% of total per day (and I send/receive a lot of messages )
The option to restrict foreground/background activity don't block the app, it will only restrict some process to prevent the app do to something berserk and drain all the resources of the phone.
Unless you force disable them (from the options or with an app but sometimes the option doesn't exist unless you rooted your phone) and enable it each time you want to use them they will continue to run in background, especially social apps that need to listen to push notifications from internet all the time .
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It's pretty normal for apps to run for hours (or all the time) in background , it doesn't necessarily mean they consume resources , what are their battery % consumption in the battery apps statistics ? On my phone whatsapp or Telegram only consume 2~5% of total per day (and I send/receive a lot of messages )
The option to restrict foreground/background activity don't block the app, it will only restrict some process to prevent the app do to something berserk and drain all the resources of the phone.
Unless you force disable them (from the options or with an app but sometimes the option doesn't exist unless you rooted your phone) and enable it each time you want to use them they will continue to run in background, especially social apps that need to listen to push notifications from internet all the time .
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How to block apps like instagram if I have root?
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How to block apps like instagram if I have root?
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I use Titanium Backup Pro to freeze/unfreeze any app or system app but you can also block apps per ADB commands too if you have root
Pouic said:
It's pretty normal for apps to run for hours (or all the time) in background , it doesn't necessarily mean they consume resources , what are their battery % consumption in the battery apps statistics ? On my phone whatsapp or Telegram only consume 2~5% of total per day (and I send/receive a lot of messages )
The option to restrict foreground/background activity don't block the app, it will only restrict some process to prevent the app do to something berserk and drain all the resources of the phone.
Unless you force disable them (from the options or with an app but sometimes the option doesn't exist unless you rooted your phone) and enable it each time you want to use them they will continue to run in background, especially social apps that need to listen to push notifications from internet all the time .
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thank you for your reply. That's the thing though, I don't want them to listen for anything!