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Give Patience Not Petition To Xiaomi ..
I made this thread for those who are getting frustrated with Xiaomi and recently they are talking of signing Petition for releasing source code of Xiaomi Mi3 specially in India.
Beofore I start this thread, You must know that from begining, Xiaomi is Providing the Best to us.. How?? Let us Know..
Xiaomi Mi3 was first released in China for Almost Rs. 24000 and it was running on android 4.3 JellyBean with Miui V5.
Then It was rumored in India without Revealing the price and we thought its price will be almost 20000 and it will be a great choice.
When Xiaomi revealed it will be Only 14999, we smiled. Then You says, its JellyBean, Kitkat would have been better.. Xiaomi does that to You & you smiled More. Then when Mi3 was released price was cut 1000 more meaning only Rs. 13999. You smiled More & More..
After the last sale of Xiaomi Mi3, or after 0ne-two months, Xiaomi Owners started to request for these things..
1. Lollipop Update
2. Miui V6
3. Source Code
I want to say, its only have 6 months from the last sale of Xiaomi Mi3, What more you want from Xiaomi as they are constantly releasing device such as..
1. Xiaomi Redmi 1s
2. Xiaomi Redmi Note
3. Xiaomi Piston earphone
4. Xiaomi Power Bank (5200mAh & 10400mAh)
5. Xiaomi Cases & Covers
6. Xiaomi Redmi Note 4g
7. Xiaomi Redmi 2
8. Xiaomi Mi 4
9. Xiaomi Mi Note
10. Xiaomi Mi Note Pro.
11. Xiaomi Mi Band
12. Xiaomi Mi Box
13. And Many More..
But You still want those three things.. Common man lets wait, and give Xiaomi More time..
If Xiaomi will only focus on upgrading Software releasing source Codes, How can they focus on their Upcoming devices in Many Countries. But still they are promising, they will update you as always..
So why Signing the petition, lets congratulate Xiaomi and Give our Best Wishes for their upcoming Products..
Thanks for Reading This..
As much as I agree with you, be prepared to get flammed from some members here !
24000Rs might be for the 64gb variant.....
magicweapons said:
Give Patience Not Petition To Xiaomi ..
I made this thread for those who are getting frustrated with Xiaomi and recently they are talking of signing Petition for releasing source code of Xiaomi Mi3 specially in India.
Beofore I start this thread, You must know that from begining, Xiaomi is Providing the Best to us.. How?? Let us Know..
Xiaomi Mi3 was first released in China for Almost Rs. 24000 and it was running on android 4.3 JellyBean with Miui V5.
Then It was rumored in India without Revealing the price and we thought its price will be almost 20000 and it will be a great choice.
When Xiaomi revealed it will be Only 14999, we smiled. Then You says, its JellyBean, Kitkat would have been better.. Xiaomi does that to You & you smiled More. Then when Mi3 was released price was cut 1000 more meaning only Rs. 13999. You smiled More & More..
After the last sale of Xiaomi Mi3, or after 0ne-two months, Xiaomi Owners started to request for these things..
1. Lollipop Update
2. Miui V6
3. Source Code
I want to say, its only have 6 months from the last sale of Xiaomi Mi3, What more you want from Xiaomi as they are constantly releasing device such as..
1. Xiaomi Redmi 1s
2. Xiaomi Redmi Note
3. Xiaomi Piston earphone
4. Xiaomi Power Bank (5200mAh & 10400mAh)
5. Xiaomi Cases & Covers
6. Xiaomi Redmi Note 4g
7. Xiaomi Redmi 2
8. Xiaomi Mi 4
9. Xiaomi Mi Note
10. Xiaomi Mi Note Pro.
11. Xiaomi Mi Band
12. Xiaomi Mi Box
13. And Many More..
But You still want those three things.. Common man lets wait, and give Xiaomi More time..
If Xiaomi will only focus on upgrading Software releasing source Codes, How can they focus on their Upcoming devices in Many Countries. But still they are promising, they will update you as always..
So why Signing the petition, lets congratulate Xiaomi and Give our Best Wishes for their upcoming Products..
Thanks for Reading This..
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1. They promised on the kernel sources FEW TIMES and breaks that promises BEFORE they announce that it will be release in Q1 2015. THAT what made many people angry.
2. You only look at the India Market situation but Mi3 has been sold in other countries months before that. If you waited for 1 month, we have waited for 3 months. How fair is that to make such a statement by you??
3. The issues with Xiaomi, MIUI and GPL is NOT a new thing. Some has given them few chances since then. It has been YEARS that xiaomi is breaking the GPL and against the community.
Maybe you jumped to android recently.
Maybe you knew MIUI just recently.
Maybe that's why you don't know the whole story.
Don't believe me??
READ HERE
4. THIS IS NOT MIUI Forum. What do you really wanted and expect from posting such USELESS thread in here?
feed3 said:
1. They promised on the kernel sources FEW TIMES and breaks that promises BEFORE they announce that it will be release in Q1 2015. THAT what made many people angry.
2. You only look at the India Market situation but Mi3 has been sold in other countries months before that. If you waited for 1 month, we have waited for 3 months. How fair is that to make such a statement by you??
3. The issues with Xiaomi, MIUI and GPL is NOT a new thing. Some has given them few chances since then. It has been YEARS that xiaomi is breaking the GPL and against the community.
Maybe you jumped to android recently.
Maybe you knew MIUI just recently.
Maybe that's why you don't know the whole story.
Don't believe me??
URL
4. THIS IS NOT MIUI Forum. What do you really wanted and expect from posting such USELESS thread in here?
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Xiaomi is not my brother to keep a cover for them but the thing is, the thing which made something nearly impossible into possible, the thing which warm your pocket without firing on it, I respect it..
There are times when people doesn't understand, because they don't care of wahtever you are doing or whoever you are..
and that happening to xiaomi..
1. Xiaomi breaks promises, i agree, but why people not became angry at the time when Xiaomi breaks promises about price and gave you devices at much lower cost than they announced.. So i have empathy on under what conditions it does not providing Source Codes, may be you jumped to Xiaomi recently that's why you no nothing about it..
2. You waited for three months and we waited for months, nice statement.. that's why, xiaomi mi3 doesn't even have a rom since it came to India.. No need to talk from when I'm using Miui, Maybe before you ever learnt how to spell those four letters.
3. Talking about GPL, read GPL's first line what it says.. "It designed to take away your FREEDOM" Maybe the whole story you know, probably it doesn't meant to you or you even don't know..
And what I really wanted in Posting such a Useless thread in here, is that,
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You really don't deserve to know about it..
Thanks...
Love You..
magicweapons said:
Xiaomi is not my brother to keep a cover for them but the thing is, the thing which made something nearly impossible into possible, the thing which warm your pocket without firing on it, I respect it..
There are times when people doesn't understand, because they don't care of wahtever you are doing or whoever you are..
and that happening to xiaomi..
1. Xiaomi breaks promises, i agree, but why people not became angry at the time when Xiaomi breaks promises about price and gave you devices at much lower cost than they announced.. So i have empathy on under what conditions it does not providing Source Codes, may be you jumped to Xiaomi recently that's why you no nothing about it..
2. You waited for three months and we waited for months, nice statement.. that's why, xiaomi mi3 doesn't even have a rom since it came to India.. No need to talk from when I'm using Miui, Maybe before you ever learnt how to spell those four letters.
3. Talking about GPL, read GPL's first line what it says.. "It designed to take away your FREEDOM" Maybe the whole story you know, probably it doesn't meant to you or you even don't know..
And what I really wanted in Posting such a Useless thread in here, is that,
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You really don't deserve to know about it..
Thanks...
Love You..
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How does one can angry on a good thing? And how does an "announced price" can be considered as a promise?
Based on your arguments, i can see the level of your maturity and intellectuality..
You may don't know me but some people may do and even used my miui rom before, or even used my translated miui apps before. So, unless you provide more valid and intellectual points of argument, i have no reason to reply anymore and can only say Good luck to you.
Good day.
Sent from my A0001 using XDA Free mobile app
feed3 said:
How does one can angry on a good thing? And how does an "announced price" can be considered as a promise?
Based on your arguments, i can see the level of your maturity and intellectuality..
You may don't know me but some people may do and even used my miui rom before, or even used my translated miui apps before. So, unless you provide more valid and intellectual points of argument, i have no reason to reply anymore and can only say Good luck to you.
Good day.
Sent from my A0001 using XDA Free mobile app
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Really, I wasn't angry.. I was laughing.. and Still am laughing out loud.. Because the level of maturity and intellectuality does not depend upon words.. People used your rom, apps, wow that's the only reason someone got to know you..
This is my last reply to you in this forum.. and I commited to it..
Because when I commit once, I ain't hear even myself..
Haha I just cant stop laughing. Great and funny post.
Please
don't let this subforum become like the miui official forum. This thread is totally useless, whether we agree or not with you. Think about it, if everyone with an opinion posted a thread about it, what chaos would ensue? Moreover, this topic has been discussed over and over and OVER, the only sensible thing to do NOW is wait until the end of Q3 and see what happens.
I am confused in buying this tablet ...I fear that kitkat will soon get outdated and i will not be able to use some apps... I have read many forums but nobody discussed of the update for pad to lollipop...Will it ever get updated ...and if not will I be able to use apps even after incompatibility with kitkat(if there is any way to get out of the problem)???
there's no way to get any decent rom out of xiaomi as they don't release the source code.
there's a few ported 5.0 roms put there but many things are not working yet and development is very slow (it's been months and there's no updates)
MIUI 7 is just released, but still in kk.
i don't think xiaomi will move to lollipop anytime soon.
save yourself the trouble, go get other tablets.
sad to hear that, i'm planning to buy 1, i want this this tab just because of it's powerful specs, high battery and size.
hope we can have at least lollipop update from Mi
After experiencing the lack of real updates on the Mi Pad, I've given up the purchase of many Mi devices.
For example, the Redmi Note 2 is a great device at a killer price (about $130 here) with near-flagship specs. But it is stuck on 5.0, so of course I'm not getting it because I know it'll be stuck down for a long time simply because MIUI never releases code, and never releases kernel even though they're supposed to.
If the kernel was released by Xiaomi you'd have killer roms on these devices in a single week.
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jeremeel2015 said:
sad to hear that, i'm planning to buy 1, i want this this tab just because of it's powerful specs, high battery and size.
hope we can have at least lollipop update from Mi
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There won't be one. Xiaomi only has 4 developers working on Mi Pad, part time. And the support has been terrible. As a MiPad owner, I'm horribly disappointed. Their support for their other phones are just as awful.
according to miui forum they need beta tester to apply global beta team for miui7 MM base for xiaomi device http://en.miui.com/thread-197475-1-1.html
lets pray sodamn hard mipad will get it too
Other then 4.4.4 updates as in just the apps here and there Mi Pad will NEVER be getting Android 5 nor Android 6. They the MODS that have no idea either since launch been saying "wait and see". If you search you find MIUI said about marshmellow just what would be getting updated and MI PAD is NOT there.
Yes, MIUI 8 for Mi Pad is available now, I think so
Miui 8 is available on the Chinese ROM only.
A general point is that in the fast moving world of mobile telephone sales, to stay profitable, you must come up with new and better models regularly. This means a limited software shelf life for old phones, where 'old' means over 2 years. Of course there won't be support for older models, most owners have bought other handsets by then, anyway. Of course xiaomi should release the source code though.
Well, I cannot say much about MI Pad support as I do not have that one, but pretty much ANY MI devices got MIUI 8 now. Yes, some are running on top of old Android, but it does not matter much for most users, and please tell me which company supports such old devices as Redmi 1s? What is offered with Huawei T1-A21L tablet still commonly offered across Europe by 3? Correct 4.4 with no plans to give any updates. So let us be more objective. Well, I agree, to get sources would be nice. BTW, di we get them for Nvidia own device?
Its time to let the source kod loose...why are they Holding this for them selfs ? If they are smart release the source kod and maybe just maybe we forget about that they didnt support us.... 1 thing is for sure, i will never ever buy a Xiaomi product again! And i hope you guys are with Me on this One, this Company is a joke !
Good news, the Kernel just released. Finally! https://github.com/MiCode/Xiaomi_Kernel_OpenSource/tree/mocha-kk-oss/kernel
skrewie said:
Its time to let the source kod loose...why are they Holding this for them selfs ? If they are smart release the source kod and maybe just maybe we forget about that they didnt support us.... 1 thing is for sure, i will never ever buy a Xiaomi product again! And i hope you guys are with Me on this One, this Company is a joke !
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Im with you. the support for this tablet has been pathetic. Really regretted buying it. Hopefully now we have source code some good folk will make it usable again
Only custom. Not by xiaomi
it seems that its about nvidia... because mi 3 td also use kk in miui8.mi 2s use lolipop in miui6(5.0.2).also,cm12.1 is better then miui now.and i suggest you to flash cm12.1
https://github.com/MiCode/Xiaomi_Kernel_OpenSource/tree/sirius-o-oss
Pretty quick for a Xiaomi device
Great, I want to purchase a Mi 8 SE when it is available in my country and I will install LineageOS :3
Does this basically mean we are about to see a massive surge in development of custom roms and kernels for it ?
SlyUK said:
Does this basically mean we are about to see a massive surge in development of custom roms and kernels for it ?
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If we're lucky! It all depends on developers adopting development for the device as with every device. But price to hardware ratio I think (and hope) that it'll happen. When a good ROM comes out, this will probably be my next device!
NikkeNok said:
If we're lucky! It all depends on developers adopting development for the device as with every device. But price to hardware ratio I think (and hope) that it'll happen. When a good ROM comes out, this will probably be my next device!
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If it's released globally, then expect a ton of Roms and kernels
example: Mi note 3 has the sources,but is China-only, so development is pretty much dead
nguyenlucky said:
If it's released globally, then expect a ton of Roms and kernels
example: Mi note 3 has the sources,but is China-only, so development is pretty much dead
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I do expect it too as well. It's already available from several importers. However Xiaomi announced that the 'regular' Mi 8 is coming to Europe in August - no mention of the SE version though.
Great, I want to purchase a Mi 8 SE when it is available in my country and I will install LineageOS { thnx Xiaomi )
Already get the phone mi8 SE, 710 is pretty good, waiting for the twrp & lineageos....
Tittle says it all. Why pocophone as soon as september 2018 already had custom roms avaiable here on XDA and other phones such as Mi 9, S10, V20 almost 3 months since launch doesn't have any?
What makes it possible to develop custom OS and ported OS?
I really wanted to purchase a Mi 9 but MIUI is absolutely unbearable. Will miss so much OOS for Poco F1
Edit: Is it a long way to learn how to port ROMs, GSI to the point i can develop my own OOS for my desired phone?
It's about how popular the device gets. Pocophone is indeed very popular due do having flagship SOC for a very low price compared to Flagship phones. Also, Xiaomi made Source Code available literally after the phone launched. Good price, source code, popularity, attracts the developers.
Also, why do you miss OOS? It's still alive and being updated. Beta version for example. You just need to join their VIP section for some cheap monthly price and you're gonna get updates regularly according to the OOS dev for Poco.
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It's about how popular the device gets. Pocophone is indeed very popular due do having flagship SOC for a very low price compared to Flagship phones. Also, Xiaomi made Source Code available literally after the phone launched. Good price, source code, popularity, attracts the developers.
Also, why do you miss OOS? It's still alive and being updated. Beta version for example. You just need to join their VIP section for some cheap monthly price and you're gonna get updates regularly according to the OOS dev for Poco.
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Sorry buddy i wasn't very clear. I am using OOS and if i move to another device such as Mi 9 i will miss it so much.
I really wish to know the best way to understand my android system so i could tweak it to my likings.
Buy a pixel/OnePlus and you will have countless roms to play
A request to the devs to port the android 11 beta 1 build of Mi 10 for K20 Pro/Mi 9T Pro
We also wanna experience the latest android on our devices
No we don't, a port would take so much work to get headphone jack, pop up camera and everything else to work even slightly ok, it would not be anywhere close to being a daily driver but a rom to try for a hour. In good time Xiaomi will release miui 12 android 11 beta for our device just be patient.
I don't think Xiaomi's gonna provide Android 11 for K20 Pro. They've already discontinued it's production and investing more work in it won't bring them profit. Also they've got a lot of flagships. So, I don't think they'll care about this phone. They've already given one Android update, they'll settle for it.
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Just wait for the release and some custom roms will pop up, just give it some time.
Senior_Pj said:
A request to the devs to port the android 11 beta 1 build of Mi 10 for K20 Pro/Mi 9T Pro
We also wanna experience the latest android on our devices
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Being a senior member you should know that this section is for development, not for requests.
mauam said:
Being a senior member you should know that this section is for development, not for requests.
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Yup, but sometimes things are noticed like this, else go unnoticed
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Yup, but sometimes things are noticed like this, else go unnoticed
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Your answer is so predictable. Please, refrain from post requests here. We will get a11 later.
mauam said:
Your answer is so predictable. Please, refrain from post requests here. We will get a11 later.
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Yeah, predictable as things with sense matter. Ok, I won't but this thread was to check if any dev is interested as nowadays people aren't interested
You don't think the devs have already thought of this? It's a lot of effort and time. Are you willing to fund them?
kibria.mgk said:
I don't think Xiaomi's gonna provide Android 11 for K20 Pro. They've already discontinued it's production and investing more work in it won't bring them profit. Also they've got a lot of flagships. So, I don't think they'll care about this phone. They've already given one Android update, they'll settle for it.
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They might not provide the beta but they certainly will a stable version once it's ready. Don't forget that the phone launched with Android 9, was a part of Android 10 beta testing and should receive one more Android update which would be 11. Xiaomi has always updated higher-end models with 2 Android versions just like every other OEM (except Google). It would be a shame if they left one of their most popular phones behind, wouldn't it?
Senior_Pj said:
A request to the devs to port the android 11 beta 1 build of Mi 10 for K20 Pro/Mi 9T Pro
We also wanna experience the latest android on our devices
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WTH is wrong with you?! Nobody owes you anything.
XblackdemonX said:
WTH is wrong with you?! Nobody owes you anything.
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Keep you F in your back H and move away quietly, I didn't asked your opinion, thanks
hoopsnake said:
No we don't, a port would take so much work to get headphone jack, pop up camera and everything else to work even slightly ok, it would not be anywhere close to being a daily driver but a rom to try for a hour. In good time Xiaomi will release miui 12 android 11 beta for our device just be patient.
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Can be done from the Poco F2 Pro Android 11 Beta 1 easily, right?
porting isn't straight forward as you might think, not only that more than likely a new kernel would need to be compiled.
It probably won't be long till the k20 gets a proper beta release, imagine someone working on trying to port another devices firmware and doing a kernel for it and then a proper firmware gets released, it would be a waste of a devs time.
Most devs on here are concentrating on non miui roms, apart from xiaomi.eu firmwares no other miui roms are being kept upto date.
sofir786 said:
porting isn't straight forward as you might think, not only that more than likely a new kernel would need to be compiled.
It probably won't be long till the k20 gets a proper beta release, imagine someone working on trying to port another devices firmware and doing a kernel for it and then a proper firmware gets released, it would be a waste of a devs time.
Most devs on here are concentrating on non miui roms, apart from xiaomi.eu firmwares no other miui roms are being kept upto date.
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This is a non-miui rom as well, the stock one
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This is a non-miui rom as well, the stock one
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As far as I can tell they haven't released the beta for poco f2 pro yet, the other 2 phones don't have a pop up camera so porting would not be straight forward.
It's an early dev build which will be full of bugs, below are the features that android 11 will bring:
https://www.androidauthority.com/android-11-features-1085228/
A lot of these have already been done or very similar in custom aosp roms already available, if not more.
I wouldn't hold your breathe on this, it's probably not going to happen, and people will just wait for a proper k20 pro release
sofir786 said:
As far as I can tell they haven't released the beta for poco f2 pro yet, the other 2 phones don't have a pop up camera so porting would not be straight forward.
It's an early dev build which will be full of bugs, below are the features that android 11 will bring:
https://www.androidauthority.com/android-11-features-1085228/
A lot of these have already been done or very similar in custom aosp roms already available, if not more.
I wouldn't hold your breathe on this, it's probably not going to happen, and people will just wait for a proper k20 pro release
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I hope that the one for Poco F2 Pro is out soon! So that devs can port it to K20 Pro
kibria.mgk said:
I don't think Xiaomi's gonna provide Android 11 for K20 Pro. They've already discontinued it's production and investing more work in it won't bring them profit. Also they've got a lot of flagships. So, I don't think they'll care about this phone. They've already given one Android update, they'll settle for it.
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What a joke! By your logic, no phone should get 2 android updates because no company produce a particular phone model for 2 years. And, software updates profit them because it allows their royal customers happy and stick to their brand. Otherwise, they will just buy another brand with better software update. Lastly, there isn't many redmi flagships, k20 pro, k30 pro/zoom. That's it.
Even midrange Mi A2 lite got 2 android updates.
Xiaomi has pretty good record of giving updates and I am 100% sure that K20 pro will get android 11.
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What a joke! By your logic, no phone should get 2 android updates because no company produce a particular phone model for 2 years. And, software updates profit them because it allows their royal customers happy and stick to their brand. Otherwise, they will just buy another brand with better software update. Lastly, there isn't many redmi flagships, k20 pro, k30 pro/zoom. That's it.
Even midrange Mi A2 lite got 2 android updates.
Xiaomi has pretty good record of giving updates and I am 100% sure that K20 pro will get android 11.
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It's not my logic, it's Xiaomi's, so far as my observation.
Besides, the ones you're calling "Royal" customer, K20 pro is a budget flagship. The customers for this are anything but "Royal".
Mi A2 lite got the update probably because of its long lifespan.
Again, I don't have any problem if Xiaomi provides another Android update. I'm just skeptical they'll do so.
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kibria.mgk said:
It's not my logic, it's Xiaomi's, so far as my observation.
Besides, the ones you're calling "Royal" customer, K20 pro is a budget flagship. The customers for this are anything but "Royal".
Mi A2 lite got the update probably because of its long lifespan.
Again, I don't have any problem if Xiaomi provides another Android update. I'm just skeptical they'll do so.
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What do you mean by its long lifespan?