Does anyone know if the Edge+ could be bought and used for non-Verizon service like TMobile?
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Yes and No.
The Verizon version is locked to Verizon service for 30 days. It needs to be activated on Verizon otherwise it will never be unlocked.
The Verizon version also doesn't have band 71 which T-Mobile will be using mainly in the future. So the phone may work but it will start to be missing a critical band in a few months.
I'm looking at options now and I see that the Global version has both bands 41 and 71. So, unless tmobile plays ****, the global version should work with tmobile. Mind you I'm not saying it's a good phone or anything. Just looking at options...
I have the international version and am running on T-Mobile. Band 71 works great. Absolutely love the phone.
I know this thread is a little old but according to the verizon website (here: https://www.verizon.com/smartphones/motorola-edge-plus/#specsHeading), the Edge plus supports band 71
"Network: 5G: mmWave band n260/n261 | 5G: sub-6GHz band n2/5/41/66/71/77/78 | 4G:LTE band 1/2/3/4/5/7/8/12/13/17/20/25/26/28/29/30/34/38/39/40/41/42/46/48/66/71"
tjsamford said:
Does anyone know if the Edge+ could be bought and used for non-Verizon service like TMobile?
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did you ever get the Edge+ and use it on TMobile?
I have the vzw edge+ on T-Mobile I wouldn't recommend it, data and everything is fine but if you rely on your phone for phone calls then it's doesn't work very well, phone has to drop from from lte down to g in order to make or receive calls and sometimes you won't get calls. If it had volte support or handled TMobile calls better it would be great. But from my experience if you mainly use data then you'll be fine but don't rely on making and receiving calls reliably.
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Hey everyone,
I just searched this topic and didn't find any definitive answers so I thought I'd ask...
Anyways is the VZW Galaxy S4 SIM unlocked out of the box? I keep reading the new VZW releases in 2012 and onwards are according to the VZW forums and website but then I found a post of someone asking VZW for an unlock. It its an official code its easier to just ask VZW as I meet all the requirements (1+ year customer). Also I read that on the S3 the APN settings are blocked on the default VZW firmware unless rooted. Is the APN settings on the S4 open (changeable) by default?
Also what's a realistic battery life you guys are getting out of this phone?
Am comparing phones and need a phone that is:
1. SIM Unlocked and APN settings changable that has VZW's US CDMA and LTE bands PLUS ALL the international bands (the 4 GSM and 4 UMTS international bands).
2. Has HSPA+21 at least.
3. Long battery life to last the day.
4. Rootable so I can get rid of VZW crap and increase the battery life.
I've also not seen any international VZW phones with HSPA+42 dual carrier like Apple's iPhone 5. I'm also debating getting a Android versus iOS phone...
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Recently took my S4 to Brazil and spent a fair bit of time talking to Verizon Global Support before the trip. One of the questions I asked was whether the phone was SIM unlocked so that I could purchase a SIM card while in Brazil and use local service down there. The VZW rep assured me the phone was indeed unlocked, but I did not use a Brazilian SIM card while on travel so I cannot confirm via personal experience.
I can confirm that it is unlocked. I put an active att sim card in, that then allowed me to add the correct apn info. I was then able to make calls and use data.
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willzzz88 said:
Hey everyone,
I just searched this topic and didn't find any definitive answers so I thought I'd ask...
Anyways is the VZW Galaxy S4 SIM unlocked out of the box? I keep reading the new VZW releases in 2012 and onwards are according to the VZW forums and website but then I found a post of someone asking VZW for an unlock. It its an official code its easier to just ask VZW as I meet all the requirements (1+ year customer). Also I read that on the S3 the APN settings are blocked on the default VZW firmware unless rooted. Is the APN settings on the S4 open (changeable) by default?
Also what's a realistic battery life you guys are getting out of this phone?
Am comparing phones and need a phone that is:
1. SIM Unlocked and APN settings changable that has VZW's US CDMA and LTE bands PLUS ALL the international bands (the 4 GSM and 4 UMTS international bands).
2. Has HSPA+21 at least.
3. Long battery life to last the day.
4. Rootable so I can get rid of VZW crap and increase the battery life.
I've also not seen any international VZW phones with HSPA+42 dual carrier like Apple's iPhone 5. I'm also debating getting a Android versus iOS phone...
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The SCH-I545 has Quad band GSM/EDGE frequency's (850/900/1800/1900) and Quad band UMTS/HSPA (850/900/1900/2100) As well as AWS bands for LTE (1700/2100) so it should get LTE on T-Mobile. However, it does not have the capabilities to get LTE on AT&T since the SCH-I545 does not have the frequency's to operate on AT&T's LTE network but it will get HSPA+ on both networks. It will work on Sprint as well but it will not get LTE since its two LTE bands, (700 and 1700/2100), are not compatible. Sprint operates on the same CDMA/ Ev-Do bands as VZW so you will get 3G. I can confirm that i have used the SCH-I545 with an AT&T SIM card and i got HSPA+ speeds.
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The SCH-I545 has Quad band GSM/EDGE frequency's (850/900/1800/1900) and Quad band UMTS/HSPA (850/900/1900/2100) As well as AWS bands for LTE (1700/2100) so it should get LTE on T-Mobile. However, it does not have the capabilities to get LTE on AT&T since the SCH-I545 does not have the frequency's to operate on AT&T's LTE network but it will get HSPA+ on both networks. It will work on Sprint as well but it will not get LTE since its two LTE bands, (700 and 1700/2100), are not compatible. Sprint operates on the same CDMA/ Ev-Do bands as VZW so you will get 3G. I can confirm that i have used the SCH-I545 with an AT&T SIM card and i got HSPA+ speeds.
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The AWS is there but not activated yet. for now you will only get EDGE on t-mobile unless in a refarmed are you will pickup HSPA. you will however pickup all AWS tis summer when verizon activates that band on our phone.
SOURCE: I'm on the 30$ a month prepaid with t-mobile. edge sucks but it works.
att sim in verizon sg4
Silentgray said:
I can confirm that it is unlocked. I put an active att sim card in, that then allowed me to add the correct apn info. I was then able to make calls and use data.
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Hi,
I have had the same outcome, voice and data work, BUT data is only HPSA+ at best. Do you get 4G LTE or found a way to get it?
Thanks!
ddckylec said:
Hi,
I have had the same outcome, voice and data work, BUT data is only HPSA+ at best. Do you get 4G LTE or found a way to get it?
Thanks!
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No, but that is because i am not in an area where ATT has LTE turned on. South Dakota is still on the waiting list. Verizon uses different frequencies for LTE then ATT does.
Verizon has never locked their phones, even the CDMA ones. If you put a non Verizon SIM in you can change the APN settings
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Ok, I'm buying a G3 thats for Verizon but for my T-Mobile service. I want to flash roms etc and I'm coming from a unlocked T-Mobile Note 2. Anything I should know before I buy it? Is it fine with T-Mobile?
T-Mobile runs on GSM network and Verizon runs on CDMA so the two won't work.
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I thought it was SIM unlocked and worked
digitallure said:
T-Mobile runs on GSM network and Verizon runs on CDMA so the two won't work.
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Don't give false information if you have no idea what you're talking about? If this information were true, how am I using a Verizon G3 on ATT with LTE?
The Verizon G3 is unlocked so it will work on either T-Mobile and ATT. It picks up LTE and HSPA+ on both networks. But LTE depends on what frequency is used in your area.
daniel4653 said:
Don't give false information if you have no idea what you're talking about? If this information were true, how am I using a Verizon G3 on ATT with LTE?
The Verizon G3 is unlocked so it will work on either T-Mobile and ATT. It picks up LTE and HSPA+ on both networks. But LTE depends on what frequency is used in your area.
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Alright, you got it
LTE on band4 works fine on the vs985 on both T-Mobile and Cricket pre-paid. H+ gsm works as a fallback, too. Verizon phones have had GSM radios since at least the Droid3, if they were "World Phones", like ALL current LTE models are. Verizon used to require a code be entered before GSM would work, and even then no USA GSM networks would work. But that's all in the past.
lowridincrew said:
Ok, I'm buying a G3 thats for Verizon but for my T-Mobile service. I want to flash roms etc and I'm coming from a unlocked T-Mobile Note 2. Anything I should know before I buy it? Is it fine with T-Mobile?
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every lollipop rom will pop up with a call forwarding hass been disabled bug that happens when dropping for lte to H or H+
it will work but the bug will annoy you all the time and i never was able to find away to disable it
4.4.4 roms work amazing tho so id say stick to those for now
digitallure said:
T-Mobile runs on GSM network and Verizon runs on CDMA so the two won't work.
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Actually it will work. I'm using mine on T-Mobile now. 4g lte is limited since verizon g3 only supports one band thats compatible with tmobile. But hspa+ or regular 4g works, spa or 3g works edge gprs all of those work.
Question for you guys!
Brief background:
I live in MN, USA and currently have a Nexus 6 on the Verizon network (works great as it's unlocked).
Just got a SIM card on T-Mobile (the $30 a month plan). Also works great on the Nexus 6.
What I am hoping to do is use the T-mobile SIM for Data and the Verizon SIM for voice calls. By looking at the frequency bands, it "looks" like this should work. What do you guys think? I am planning on installing some kinda of custom ROM on the 5X also. Something like CM12/13 if possible.
Not sure but with Verizon, I am assuming that the Honor 5X will only be able to use the WCDMA frequencies on Band 1.
I cannot post external links, so I've taken some screenshots of the frequencies and Bands.
Thanks!
setipollux said:
Question for you guys!
Brief background:
I live in MN, USA and currently have a Nexus 6 on the Verizon network (works great as it's unlocked).
Just got a SIM card on T-Mobile (the $30 a month plan). Also works great on the Nexus 6.
What I am hoping to do is use the T-mobile SIM for Data and the Verizon SIM for voice calls. By looking at the frequency bands, it "looks" like this should work. What do you guys think? I am planning on installing some kinda of custom ROM on the 5X also. Something like CM12/13 if possible.
Not sure but with Verizon, I am assuming that the Honor 5X will only be able to use the WCDMA frequencies on Band 1.
I cannot post external links, so I've taken some screenshots of the frequencies and Bands.
Thanks!
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I don't think the phone supports CDMA at all, I would be surprised if Verizon will work
Verizon wont work, it's CDMA not GSM.
Doesn't work very well on tmobs either. I don't know if I have a bad device, but the signal is horrible compared to other devices (S7e, HTC 10 and Galaxy Prime)
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So I just read and saw on line that the US Cellular version of the LG G6 is on $550 buy it out right. Would this version work with Verizon Wireless. It looks to have the same LTE bands. What would be the chance of buying and putting a Verizon sim in it and it works out the gate. Anyone have any ideas?
https://www.uscellular.com/devices/phones/lg-g6-platinum.html?productId=prod9410143
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GSMarena doesn't currently list 3G bands for the US Cellular G6 (US997). However, I've seen the Verizon and US Cellular versions of phones differ on 3G bands before (see the Galaxy S7 USA, for example), so 3G might have problems if you just popped a Verizon SIM card into a US Cellular G6.
I'm wondering if there could be a similar method to the one that was discovered for the HTC 10 where you flash radio images from the Verizon variant onto another phone:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-htc-10/how-to/vzw-how-to-unlocked-model-vzw-t3376743
Is the us cellular version factory unlocked? It is the same model number as the unlocked version, us997. I'm looking to use on AT&T.
It looks like you have to pick up some kind of plan from them to get the $550 price. It's probably better to go the b&h route (or hope vzw does a mother's day week sale).
Update: Ended up buying a new us cellular us997 for cheap. Popped my straight talk/at&t sim in and it works flawlessly. I always use this site to check bands
https://www.frequencycheck.com/compatibility/0Dlph6Y/lg-us997-g6-lte-a/united-states
I have used that site several times and its always been accurate. From what im seeing, the us cellular model supports all of the bands needed for verizon. It doesnt support CDMA2000 1xEV-DO Rel. 0 but does support CDMA2000 1xEV-DO Rev A. So if 3G is a major concern, I'd check and see which one is used in your area. I personally wouldn't care about the 3G considering the price difference of the USC model and the fact that all LTE and voice bands are supported. Hope this helps
puff601 said:
Is the us cellular version factory unlocked? It is the same model number as the unlocked version, us997. I'm looking to use on AT&T.
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Hey. Are there any Tutorials of how to GSM Unlock a Galaxy Tab S3 LTE to be able to use a T Mobile SIM Card with a Mobile Internet Data Plan?
EpiphanyofMusic said:
Hey. Are there any Tutorials of how to GSM Unlock a Galaxy Tab S3 LTE to be able to use a T Mobile SIM Card with a Mobile Internet Data Plan?
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Why wouldn't you just buy an international LTE Tab S3? The VZW version is going to have their crap and modifications on it and most likely will be updated 6 months behind an international version if at all. Do you know if the VZW version supports T-Mobile's band 12? The international version doesn't and folks on T-Mobile get 8MB down in those markets that rely on band 12 heavily.
While all of the above is true, VZW devices should be SIM unlocked out of the box due to their block C agreement. The primary band for TMO is band 4 so you should be fine but yes, it is missing band 12 so if you live in a band 12 area, you're possibly giving up some coverage, particularly indoors. I'm in Chicago and since we don't have band 12... Doesn't matter to me.
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Does anyone know if they come out of the box unlocked through Verizon? As I also want to use it on my T-Mobile unlimited plane to replace another tablet but buy the tablet through Verizon as it is not offered at T-Mobile.
Postpay Device Unlocking Policy
We do not lock most phones or tablets that are activated with our postpay service, either during or after the term of your service contract or Device Payment Plan installment sales agreement.
We do not lock our 4G LTE devices, and no code is needed to program them for use with another carrier.
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In case anyone else was wondering. Found this on Verizons website.
Not to bring up an old post, but the US Cellular S3 is also fully unlocked. I have it running on ATT with just apn modifications
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