T-Mobile/Simple Mobile forcing a new phone.... why? - Samsung Galaxy S9+ Questions & Answers

Simple Mobile is telling me that my S9+ will not be compatible with their network changes on January 1st; my daughter's Moto G6 got the same message.
Does anyone know why? Is it because of their 5G network upgrade? And the S9+ can't handle it??

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A lot of companies are dropping 3g and I'm pissed too. Cricket don't support volte on byod. Which means my note 10 is useless once their switch over happens. And that's basically what they are saying. Is your device doesn't support volte only and or we can't make it work on yours. Even though I know it does. Will. And had worked on mine. This is in a nutshell

That is incredibly shady of them. I would drop them as a carrier, if it's an option. The official 3G shutdown isn't until 2023. AT&T did something similar, using a scare tactic and telling people their phones would stop working soon. The fine print however showed that "soon" meant February of 2023.

TheMadScientist said:
A lot of companies are dropping 3g and I'm pissed too. Cricket don't support volte on byod. Which means my note 10 is useless once their switch over happens. And that's basically what they are saying. Is your device doesn't support volte only and or we can't make it work on yours. Even though I know it does. Will. And had worked on mine. This is in a nutshell
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jeromekobriger said:
That is incredibly shady of them. I would drop them as a carrier, if it's an option. The official 3G shutdown isn't until 2023. AT&T did something similar, using a scare tactic and telling people their phones would stop working soon. The fine print however showed that "soon" meant February of 2023.
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thanks guys. So, I see that I have some time for this change. Replacing the wife's S9+ is probably due since she's getting a lot of missed work calls. But I also have a Moto G6 for my daughter with Simple Mobile, and I'm not sure what to replace it with. The Moto G6 is a nice, small, and cheap phone for a 12 year-old. Do I need to look for phones that work with VOLTE for her replacement?

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Nexus 6P on Three UK

Looks like, so far, Three are the only network not to have announced they are stocking the Nexus 6P.
I for one am hoping they are just delaying their announcement!
If anyone has any information regarding this matter, please post here.
Don't think three stocked the Nexus 6 at release did they?
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Three did not stock the N6 so very doubtful they will do the 6P
I think a few places never stocked the 6. This time however, everyone except Three are stocking the 6P.
They can't be the only people not to negotiate a contract to sell the 6P, surely!
Seems that way. No plans as yet to sell it, and as such I'd imagine it won't work with VoLTE on Three either.
Annoying as I've ordered one and am on Three.
jonmorris said:
Seems that way. No plans as yet to sell it, and as such I'd imagine it won't work with VoLTE on Three either.
Annoying as I've ordered one and am on Three.
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Not good, any more news on this??
No. I guess we can safely say VoLTE won't be possible on the 6P with Three. That is unless we get the ability to manually enter the relevant IMS settings (like APNs for data), in which case it should be possible.
I have heard rumours that the inTouch app may be updated to allow you to make calls over the app, just like you can use it for calling over Wi-Fi without 'proper' Voice over Wi-Fi support.
In this way, Three will then (apparently) give you access to the 800MHz LTE network (which is available in areas where there's no 3G to fall back to for voice) once you're registered and signed in.
That too could solve the problem, but it's a bit of a bodge and by no means going to happen for definite.
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No. I guess we can safely say VoLTE won't be possible on the 6P with Three. That is unless we get the ability to manually enter the relevant IMS settings (like APNs for data), in which case it should be possible.
I have heard rumours that the inTouch app may be updated to allow you to make calls over the app, just like you can use it for calling over Wi-Fi without 'proper' Voice over Wi-Fi support.
In this way, Three will then (apparently) give you access to the 800MHz LTE network (which is available in areas where there's no 3G to fall back to for voice) once you're registered and signed in.
That too could solve the problem, but it's a bit of a bodge and by no means going to happen for definite.
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When I first ordered the 6P i went into a three store and asked about the VoLTE and they said they should support it.
Remember they dont brand/lock the phones they sell anymore. Can't remember if they put extra software on though.
brichardson1991 said:
When I first ordered the 6P i went into a three store and asked about the VoLTE and they said they should support it.
Remember they dont brand/lock the phones they sell anymore. Can't remember if they put extra software on though.
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They don't lock but they do brand. It isn't like the old days, with custom ring tones, colours, loads of extra apps (free trials of aps, or whatever) installed but it's still a custom ROM with settings unique to them, from APNs to the IMS settings needed for VoLTE (and Wi-Fi calling).
If you want to use VoLTE on Three today, or SuperVoice as they call it, you need to flash the Three ROM on your Galaxy S5, LG G4 or the other few devices given access - and requiring a software update.
Apple is the exception. These are never branded and the carrier settings are the same on EVERY single phone. I do wish Google would do something similar with regards to carrier settings, as then every phone on any network could be made to work properly with all the available features.
Given this is Xda, it's worth noting that there are sometimes other ways to get a generic phone to work with VoLTE but it's not something Joe Public would be able to do, or even know they could do. And Three stores have been saying some phones are able to work that can't (and never will, unless they do this inTouch update) as well as saying 4G 800 is a high priority, when the reality is that it's the lowest and you'll only ever use it when 3G isn't available.
There's a dedicated UK thread here,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/general/uk-nexus-6p-t3213767
Please continue this there. :good:
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Verizon

Wondering if this will work on Verizon given it had the correct lte bands. Anyone tried yet?
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No?
Verizon is CDMA and this phone only supports GSM. Am I missing something? I feel like you probably know that, bill?
Edit: Sorry for the posting issues. Ironic sidenote... for being an android enthusiest site, it difficult to use this website on mobile.
Yeah but will just lte work? Bands 2,4, and 13 are there.
bill3508 said:
Yeah but will just lte work? Bands 2,4, and 13 are there.
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On Verizon?
Just because the LTE bands are enabled on the phone doesn't mean you'll get the functionality.
Data over LTE might work, but VoLTE on Verizon generally requires LTE binaries signed with a certificate that is acceptable to Verizon, which are highly unlikely to exist on the XZ1.
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On Verizon?
Just because the LTE bands are enabled on the phone doesn't mean you'll get the functionality.
Data over LTE might work, but VoLTE on Verizon generally requires LTE binaries signed with a certificate that is acceptable to Verizon, which are highly unlikely to exist on the XZ1.
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I just wondered. Normally Sony doesn't even include band 13. Been wanting to run a top Sony device for a long time now with no help from Sony to do it. I may just order one and see for the hell of it.
If one of you good folks has a friend with Verizon swap his sim in and factory reset and see if lte and volte works. May have to cycle volte on and off in phone settings *#*#4636#*#*, and then do the same in cellular settings.
I guess I don't know about band functions and LTE on a CDMA network. Maybe it would work? I'd be inclined to think not though just because Verizon has historically been one of the more strict white/blacklisting of phones on their towers, right? I think I'd be with Pbarrette in support/functionality unlikely to be there for a Sony phone. But I really don't have first hand personal experience with that so I guess I don't know.
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I guess I don't know about band functions and LTE on a CDMA network. Maybe it would work? I'd be inclined to think not though just because Verizon has historically been one of the more strict white/blacklisting of phones on their towers, right? I think I'd be with Pbarrette in support/functionality unlikely to be there for a Sony phone. But I really don't have first hand personal experience with that so I guess I don't know.
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Well cdma only comes into play outside of lte areas with volte working. Even if a device isn't white listed it will still work like the Axon 7. It's just a matter of whether volte would work really otherwise I'd have data but couldn't talk. Hopefully someone will try it before I order one.
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bill3508 said:
Well cdma only comes into play outside of lte areas with volte working. Even if a device isn't white listed it will still work like the Axon 7. It's just a matter of whether volte would work really otherwise I'd have data but couldn't talk. Hopefully someone will try it before I order one.
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The XZ1 isn't certified for VoLTE in the US on any carrier AFAIK, doubtful that it'll work on Verizon if it doesn't on AT&T and TMO which are GSM carriers.
murtaza02 said:
The XZ1 isn't certified for VoLTE in the US on any carrier AFAIK, doubtful that it'll work on Verizon if it doesn't on AT&T and TMO which are GSM carriers.
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That is supposedly in the works though or so I've heard.
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That is supposedly in the works though or so I've heard.
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I got my XZ1c last night and ported my number to T-Mobile today.
In the intervening time, I put my working Verizon SIM into the phone and got no connection to VZW towers at all.
In fact, the modem just kept cycling.
So given that the XZ1 and ZX1c have the same radios, I suspect that the XZ1 (full-size) will also not work (at all) on Verizon.
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I got my XZ1c last night and ported my number to T-Mobile today.
In the intervening time, I put my working Verizon SIM into the phone and got no connection to VZW towers at all.
In fact, the modem just kept cycling.
So given that the XZ1 and ZX1c have the same radios, I suspect that the XZ1 (full-size) will also not work (at all) on Verizon.
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Did you factory reset after installing sim?
bill3508 said:
Did you factory reset after installing sim?
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I literally did a full, clean flash of US firmware (partition, boot, ta files and all) and powered on with the VZW sim.
I did a lot of flashing to try narrowing down what needed to get flashed to enable T-Mo VoLTE + fingerprint without the launcher crashing.
pbarrette said:
I literally did a full, clean flash of US firmware (partition, boot, ta files and all) and powered on with the VZW sim.
I did a lot of flashing to try narrowing down what needed to get flashed to enable T-Mo VoLTE + fingerprint without the launcher crashing.
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I know but starting from scratch and just installing the sim will often show no signal on some devices. Worth trying if your still able.
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I know but starting from scratch and just installing the sim will often show no signal on some devices. Worth trying if your still able.
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It does not work with Verizon.
tearfalls said:
It does not work with Verizon.
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Thanks for the help folks.
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Thanks for the help folks.
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Don't suppose you tried it yourself between then and now? I'm also wanting to get an XZ1c or XZ2c for use with Verizon in the US. I know the XZ2c works but curious about the XZ1c.
Mike7143 said:
Don't suppose you tried it yourself between then and now? I'm also wanting to get an XZ1c or XZ2c for use with Verizon in the US. I know the XZ2c works but curious about the XZ1c.
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No sir. I did get the compact xz2c but I'm on the op 6t now. Xz2c is a nice device.
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VoLTE

Is there anyway to get VoLTE in the US for LYA-L29?
whtgrizzly said:
Is there anyway to get VoLTE in the US for LYA-L29?
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Get your carrier to enable volte on your service. Restart your phone and it should work
Hazzay88 said:
Get your carrier to enable volte on your service. Restart your phone and it should work
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Do I have to take it to the store for them to do it, or can I just call customer service?
The other response is incorrect. Huawei has a whitelist of carrier MCC/MNC for VoLTE support. US carriers are not on it for LYA-L29.
VoLTE working fine in the middle east for the LYA-L29 for those who are wondering.
I don't know about North America though.
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duraaraa said:
The other response is incorrect. Huawei has a whitelist of carrier MCC/MNC for VoLTE support. US carriers are not on it for LYA-L29.
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Volte works fine on the P20 Pro. Since that phone was never sold or supported in the USA there is no reason US carriers would be on a whitelist.
Volte also works fine on the Xiaomi MI Mix 2 & 2S which aren't sold or supported here.
Same problem in Canada too...the carrier has to work with Huawei to turn the feature on. I upgraded from an S7Edge which WAS VoLTE enabled by the carrier, so the account has the feature, but it did not automatically carry over.
Looks like there will be a few months before we get this, seeing how long it took for P20 Pro.
Anyone on UK EE with VoLTE available?
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I'm using MintMobile with the Mate 20 Pro. I found out that this carrier does not provide VoLTE service.
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Ipse_Tase said:
Same problem in Canada too...the carrier has to work with Huawei to turn the feature on. I upgraded from an S7Edge with WAS VoLTE enabled by the carrier, so the account has the feature, but it did not automatically carry over.
Looks like there will be a few months before we get this, seeing how long it took for P20 Pro.
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Hola
Can you please elaborate. For some of our carriers in Canada VoLTE and Wi-Fi Calling are only enabled with carrier branded phones. This is particularly true for Rogers and Fido. If you are dealing with Shaw, Telus and Bell I have seen different scenarios that certain non branded phones working ok for VoLTE and other phones not working at all.
I am with Fido and I bought the Mate 20 Pro from them and VoLTE and Wi-Fi Calling work.
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I'm with Videotron...hence the difference. They have been notoriously slow to enable the feature on new phones.
On the flip side, I was getting VoLTE on my old phone which was NOT bought from them (it was first registered on Koodo).
Rogers does not allow that -as you mentioned.
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Anyone on UK EE with VoLTE available?
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Anyone?
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Ipse_Tase said:
I'm with Videotron...hence the difference. They have been notoriously slow to enable the feature on new phones.
On the flip side, I was getting VoLTE on my old phone which was NOT bought from them (it was first registered on Koodo).
Rogers does not allow that -as you mentioned.
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A follow-up on my own post:
- we all knew the Canadian version L0C is NOT dual-SIM - I finally got a chance to test this. Bummer.
- I put in my phone a Rogers SIM and VoLTE and VoWiFi WERE INSTANTLY ENABLED. So the software supports it, has to be enabled by the provider via the SIM cfg. Somewhat positive news - as we all thought, Rogers would only allow VoLTE on the phones they sell, the test proved this is not the case.
Ipse_Tase said:
A follow-up on my own post:
- we all knew the Canadian version L0C is NOT dual-SIM - I finally got a chance to test this. Bummer.
- I put in my phone a Rogers SIM and VoLTE and VoWiFi WERE INSTANTLY ENABLED. So the software supports it, has to be enabled by the provider via the SIM cfg. Somewhat positive news - as we all thought, Rogers would only allow VoLTE on the phones they sell, the test proved this is not the case.
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Got 9.0.0.182 update and VoLTE works now. NO VoWiFI though.
any one from israel with partner / 012mobile volte vowifi is on on the phone but its not working its goes to H+
Anyone else willing to admit they don't even know what it is and turned it off just to get rid of the awful notification?
Oh, right , nah me either ....
Quaz1 said:
Anyone else willing to admit they don't even know what it is and turned it off just to get rid of the awful notification?
Oh, right , nah me either ....
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I can definitely tell that the call quality is a LOT better in my case with VoLTE on, as it uses HD codecs (G.722).
You can try for yourself by turning VoLTE ON and then play with WCDMA vs LTE settings...one will disable it right away. In my case even the call button in the dialer shows HD.
And yes, the damn icon is hideous and won't go away even with System Tuner.
bhagiratha said:
I'm using MintMobile with the Mate 20 Pro. I found out that this carrier does not provide VoLTE service.
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MintMobile does provide Volte but they have no idea which phone models it works on so they don't advertise Volte. I had Volte functionality on MintMobile with One Plus 5, Essential PH-1, Xiaomi Mix 2 & Mix 2S, and Huawei P20 Pro.
But it does not work with this phone.
On Telus, the first time I set the phone up it made me jump through a hoop where I went to a Telus site and enabled the VOxxx stuff. Strangely, it seemed to be kinda random whether it was 'on' or not, and before the last 2 updates I don't think you could even trust the icon to be telling you the truth. I'm not sure why this feature is a big deal, codecs or not the voice quality seems fine on this phone regardless. Some people claim that enabling any of the VO stuff gobbles battery, I haven't really noticed.
Much like the AOD, it is sad that we have almost no control over the icons at the top - especially when space is at such a premium there.

Good data signal strength to poor call strength?

My question/problem. What/why do I have a good 4 bars (of 5 bars) of data signal normally, but, when I decide to dial and make a telephone call, the signal strength goes to barely one bar as soon as I hit the dial button on the phone? I have not moved myself or the phone's location. The call may dial, but goes in and out and, more often than not, drops the call. At the same time, if I receive a call from someone, it is normally a much better signal, and does not drop or go in and out.
I am on Verizon phone (vs996) Frankenstein to us998 30b (pie). I have recently tried android 10 roms (Havoc, POSP). I don't know if that has anything to do with it or not? Very frustrating when trying to call someone.
Any thoughts or explanations or, hopefully, fixes?
Thx
gimpy1 said:
My question/problem. What/why do I have a good 4 bars (of 5 bars) of data signal normally, but, when I decide to dial and make a telephone call, the signal strength goes to barely one bar as soon as I hit the dial button on the phone? I have not moved myself or the phone's location. The call may dial, but goes in and out and, more often than not, drops the call. At the same time, if I receive a call from someone, it is normally a much better signal, and does not drop or go in and out.
I am on Verizon phone (vs996) Frankenstein to us998 30b (pie). I have recently tried android 10 roms (Havoc, POSP). I don't know if that has anything to do with it or not? Very frustrating when trying to call someone.
Any thoughts or explanations or, hopefully, fixes?
Thx
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If you are using Verizon on US998 firmware, then you don't have access to VoLTE (which is phone calls over LTE, Voice over LTE). LTE started out as a data-only service but for actual phone calls, carriers were still using 3G HSPA or CDMA (Verizon, Sprint). When making a phone call, phones temporarily bump down to 3G, and then jump back to LTE after the phone call is over.
With the VoLTE protocol, that finally allowed phone calls with LTE. It added VOICE capability to LTE.
However, different carriers treat VoLTE differently. T-mobile allows VoLTE and Wi-Fi calling for US998 phones, while AT&T and Verizon are more stingy. They reserve VoLTE mostly for their branded phones running their carrier firmware.
I'm an AT&T customer and I've never had VoLTE because I've never used a branded AT&T phone. For me, on AT&T, when I make a phone call I am bumped down temporarily to AT&T HSPA. Then, after the phone call, it jumps back to LTE.
If I were to flash the AT&T TWRP flashable zip, possibly I could enable that. But it's not just firmware, it's also a setting on the carrier side that has to be enabled.
Bottom line, what's happening is you are seeing you STRONG LTE signal. But when you make a phone call, you are being temporarily bumped down to Verizon CDMA. However, Verizon is in the process of dismantling all their CDMA towers. That's why your CDMA signal is so weak. Verizon plans to shutdown CDMA entirely by end of 2020. After that, you will need VoLTE to make phone calls on Verizon.
Since you have an actual VS996, you can flash the VS996 TWRP-flashable zip. Once on that firmware, see if VoLTE is enabled on your account (carrier side setting) and see if when you make phone calls you stay on LTE and are not bumped down to CDMA?
Thx, Chazz. So, it's a Verizon thing? Not necessarily something I caused by going back and forth trying out the different Android 10 roms. Good to know. I will try the 996 rom later today, since I don't need the Hotspot for a couple of days. As always, you've been very helpful, thx. :good:
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Thx, Chazz. So, it's a Verizon thing? Not necessarily something I caused by going back and forth trying out the different Android 10 roms. Good to know. I will try the 996 rom later today, since I don't need the Hotspot for a couple of days. As always, you've been very helpful, thx. :good:
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Yes, especially if you see strong LTE signal before making the phone call. Control freak Verizon (mostly) only allows VoLTE on Verizon firmware with Verizon branded phones. There may be exceptions (maybe Pixel phones?) and I know the ZTE Axon 7 (not a branded Verizon phone) somehow got VoLTE not only on ZTE stock firmware but also on LOS ROM -- but I believe ZTE paid Verizon to allow that. It's the exception that proves the rule.
Here's a a more in depth article about Verizon CDMA being shut down end of this year.
https://grantcountyreview.com/content/verizon-wireless-postpones-its-shutdown-3g-cdma networks
when Verizon closes its 2G and 3G networks at the end of 2020, 3G phones will become obsolete and non-VoLTE LTE phones will not be able to make or receive calls.
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You DO have a Verizon VoLTE capable phone -- a Verizon VS996 -- but for V30 only on Verizon firmware. If you were using T-mobile with US998 firmware, you would have no problems with VoLTE or Wi-Fi calling. T-mobile is more open than Verizon about such perks.
I don't get VoLTE with AT&T on US998 firmware, but AT&T has no plans to end 3G HSPA anytime soon.
Chazz, I thought I would give a quick update. Late Last night/early this morning, I switched to vs99630c. I have made two phone calls, one to Florida, one to Washington state. Both connected and sounded so much better than when with the us99830b Rom. Even though both dialers had a little HD in the upper left hand corner. This Rom kept the same 3 or 4 bar designation for the signal strength. Much happier with it. Even though I don't have a hotspot (may have to pay the $10(?)or so to set it up, if I decide to stay on here.
Also, I have just seen a 99630c debloated Rom someone has made, that I might try in the next day or so.
I so wanted to try the android 10 Roms, but I just had too many small issues (reboots, no hot spot, system ui crashes, etc.).
Thnx, again for your help and guidance.
gimpy1 said:
Chazz, I thought I would give a quick update. Late Last night/early this morning, I switched to vs99630c. I have made two phone calls, one to Florida, one to Washington state. Both connected and sounded so much better than when with the us99830b Rom. Even though both dialers had a little HD in the upper left hand corner. This Rom kept the same 3 or 4 bar designation for the signal strength.
Much happier with it. Even though I don't have a hotspot (may have to pay the $10(?)or so to set it up, if I decide to stay on here.
Also, I have just seen a 99630c debloated Rom someone has made, that I might try in the next day or so.
I so wanted to try the android 10 Roms, but I just had too many small issues (reboots, no hot spot, system ui crashes, etc.).
Thnx, again for your help and guidance.
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Then you are now probably using Verizon VoLTE, which is using LTE signal -- not the increasingly degraded CDMA signal Verizon will completely shut off December 31, 2020.
Verizon is probably already deprecating those towers -- leaving just enough, like when you're on the highways.
ChazzMatt said:
Then you are now probably using Verizon VoLTE, which is using LTE signal not the increasingly degraded CDMA signal Verizon will completely shut off December 31, 2020.
Verizon is probably already deprecating those towers -- leaving just enough, like when you're on the highways.
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I really want volte and vowifi for my unlocked us998. The only way to have that is to flash the vs rom, which is 30c? I'm on US99820h, what do I lose by going to the vs rom? Is there a vs 20h variant?
ldeveraux said:
I really want volte and vowifi for my unlocked us998. The only way to have that is to flash the vs rom, which is 30c? I'm on US99820h, what do I lose by going to the vs rom? Is there a vs 20h variant?
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Yes, we have Oreo VS996 KDZ. It's actually "20k", because it took Verizon two attempts to fully release LG V30 Oreo. And they released a couple extra updates for Verizon related bugs. So, although it's equivalent to US998 20h, it's a higher letter.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/development/vs996-lg-v30-verizon-vs996-t3865398
You need to have VoLTE enabled in your Verizon account, besides flashing this firmware. It helps to have it already enabled from a Verizon branded phone. But sometimes a helpful store rep willing to bend the rules can do it for you.
ChazzMatt said:
Yes, we have Oreo VS996 KDZ. It's actually "20k", because it took Verizon two attempts to fully release LG V30 Oreo. And they released a couple extra updates for Verizon related bugs.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/development/vs996-lg-v30-verizon-vs996-t3865398
You need to have VoLTE enabled in your Verizon account, besides flashing this firmware. It helps to have it already enabled from a Verizon branded phone. But sometimes a helpful store rep willing to bend the rules can do it for you.
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I thought the Pie variants were not great, lots of broken features? Or was that just the US998 versions? What were the tradeoffs to staying on Oreo?
ldeveraux said:
I thought the Pie variants were not great, lots of broken features? Or was that just the US998 versions? What were the tradeoffs to staying on Oreo?
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You asked for Verizon Oreo equivalent to US998 20h and that's what I gave you.
I'm not recommending Pie for US998.
Verizon Pie may be a lot better. I don't know. Someone using Verizon Pie will have to answer.
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You asked for Verizon Oreo equivalent to US998 20h and that's what I gave you.
I'm not recommending Pie for US998.
Verizon Pie may be a lot better. I don't know. Someone using Verizon Pie will have to answer.
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I misread, somehow thought the ROM you linked was Pie. My bad. I know dirty flash is never recommended, but could I get away with it here? What do I lose by going with the VS ROM over the US998? Apparently the only things I have to gain are VOLTE and possibly VVM?
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I misread, somehow thought the ROM you linked was Pie. My bad. I know dirty flash is never recommended, but could I get away with it here? What do I lose by going with the VS ROM over the US998? Apparently the only things I have to gain are VOLTE and possibly VVM?
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Do you have VoLTE already enabled in your Verizon account?
You'll lose the no bloatware experience, but you can fix that with Titanium Backup.
As for dirty flashing, you can try... If it doesn't work, then you have to factory reset and clean install. Don't forget to reflash Magisk.
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Do you have VoLTE already enabled in your Verizon account?
You'll lose the no bloatware experience, but you can fix that with Titanium Backup.
As for dirty flashing, you can try... If it doesn't work, then you have to factory reset and clean install. Don't forget to reflash Magisk.
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I logged into my VZW account and after 8745 menus, finally found the HD Voice section. It says it's "Active", so I should be good for the VS ROM yes?
ldeveraux said:
I logged into my VZW account and after 8745 menus, finally found the HD Voice section. It says it's "Active", so I should be good for the VS ROM yes?
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Seems like, yes.
I had to do a few steps to manually activate HD/VOLTE on my VS996 phone when I was on VZ. I documented the steps somewhere here (using ShortcutMasterLite). I know at least one other member here used the same steps on his phone. I'm thinking you'll be fine once you're on VS996.
I have not switched to Pie... still running Oreo. I have heard too many issues with Pie, so I have no desire to bother. I can't imagine VZ's Pie release is any better than Pie US998. VZ is too lazy to do anything else right, so why would they bother fixing what's wrong on US998.
Just want to quickly update this thread. I dirty flashed the VS99620K.zip in TWRP, then immediately flashed the latest Magisk zip. Everything updated perfectly, installed about 10 VZ apps, and I now have VOWIFI (and can send/receive texts!), though haven't been able to check VOLTE as I'm currently in a dead zone.
I'd already had HD calling active on my account, but can't select the option to also enable Video Calling. It says I need to contact support. I chatted multiple times with VZ support who claim it's active, though every time I try to enable it, it gives me the same error. What is this option, and do I need it? I'm pretty sure I was able to use Duo, Skype, Zoom, etc before the ROM update, am I spinning my wheels here?
Also, independent of this upgrade, my motion GIFs in any text app don't move. I thought it might have something to do with the non-VZ specific kernel, but after flashing, still just shows a static picture.
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I'd already had HD calling active on my account, but can't select the option to also enable Video Calling. It says I need to contact support. I chatted multiple times with VZ support who claim it's active, though every time I try to enable it, it gives me the same error. What is this option, and do I need it? I'm pretty sure I was able to use Duo, Skype, Zoom, etc before the ROM update, am I spinning my wheels here?
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Are you the account holder? Some people can't get to it as they are just user.
https://community.verizonwireless.c...video-calling-feature-is-disabled/td-p/853001
I'm not sure what Verizon video calling is. I'm guessing some Verizon-only video chat -- like Apple's FaceTime is only for iOS? If you are already using Duo, Skype, Zoom, it would seem you don't need it. But you do make sure you have voice over LTE (VoLTE, called "HD calling" Verzion) --before end of this year.
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Are you the account holder? Some people can't get to it as they are just user.
https://community.verizonwireless.c...video-calling-feature-is-disabled/td-p/853001
I'm not sure what video calling is. I'm guessing some Verizon-only video chat -- like Apple's FaceTime is only for iOS? If you are already using Duo, Skype, Zoom, you don't need it. But you do need to get voice over LTE.
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I am the only user on this account, so definitely the account holder. After more wasted chats with VZ, they said that since my phone is not VZ branded, it's not eligible for Video Calling, which apparently is exactly as you described; Facetime for non-iphone Verizon users. I don't need that, as you said all my other platforms work fine.
How do I determine if VOLTE works? Like I said, I'm in a dead zone now, but going out to a good cell region in a few hours and can check then somehow. I did confirm that I can make calls and text over WiFi, so that's half the battle. How to check VOLTE?
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How do I determine if VOLTE works? Like I said, I'm in a dead zone now, but going out to a good cell region in a few hours and can check then somehow. I did confirm that I can make calls and text over WiFi, so that's half the battle. How to check VOLTE?
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I think if you have Vo-WiFi that means your VoLTE is also activated. They seem to be packaged together.
If you make a call in a good signal area, see if the "4GLTE" icon stays on when you make the call. It may even change to VoLTE icon? or HD calling icon? A Verizon user can probably tell you better. But the key is to see if there are any status bar icon changes and what they are. Also see if there is any information in the dialer GUI during the call, where you click on the dialer timer.
Yeah, don't talk to VZ. They're too stupid to help and downright liars. Your phone will work fine on their network even if it's not VZ branded (I've used US998 and H931 phones on VZ without issue).
On my phone, I did have to do some setting changes in SML (ShortcutMasterLite) to get VOLTE working. I don't think most people have to do that, but I did... and I agree, I think that got VOWIFI working as well. I'm guessing you have both, too... just need to try it. If not, you can force-activate it as I documented earlier (via SML).

Xperia 1 AT&T compatibility in 2022 (USA)

Hello
Just received a email from AT&T, claiming that none of my Sony phones will be compatible with AT&T wireless network on 2022. This is what their page says
"To bring you faster speeds and new features, we have to evolve America’s best and also fastest network. One change we’re making is phasing out our 3G network by February 2022. Once we do, 3G devices and 4G wireless devices that don’t support HD Voice will no longer work on our network."
Their compatibility list (https://www.att.com/ecms/dam/att/consumer/help/pdf/Devices-Working-on-ATT-Network.pdf) does not include any Sony phones at all.
Does anyone know if this is actually true? One the one hand, I can see that my phones are not on their compatibility list. On the other hand, AT&T appears to be completely unaware of Sony's existence.
TheKorbenDallas said:
Hello
Just received a email from AT&T, claiming that none of my Sony phones will be compatible with AT&T wireless network on 2022. This is what their page says
"To bring you faster speeds and new features, we have to evolve America’s best and also fastest network. One change we’re making is phasing out our 3G network by February 2022. Once we do, 3G devices and 4G wireless devices that don’t support HD Voice will no longer work on our network."
Their compatibility list (https://www.att.com/ecms/dam/att/consumer/help/pdf/Devices-Working-on-ATT-Network.pdf) does not include any Sony phones at all.
Does anyone know if this is actually true? One the one hand, I can see that my phones are not on their compatibility list. On the other hand, AT&T appears to be completely unaware of Sony's existence.
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What model is your Xperia 1 (should be J8xxx or J9xxx)?
Do you get VoLTE with AT&T right now?
I"m on AT&T, and I don't have VOLTE from them here in Texas. Our X1 is not supported according to list provided by AT&T, however no Sony phones are. I haven't received the email...at least not yet for mine. Of course our phones are able to use VOLTE services but AT&T doesn't provision for them. There are some discussions about this going on on Reddit too, some people are reaching out to file complaints to the FCC.
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What model is your Xperia 1 (should be J8xxx or J9xxx)?
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Mine is a dual-SIM model J9110.
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Do you get VoLTE with AT&T right now?
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Haven't been paying attention... but apparently not.
I have the J8xxx USA model.
TheKorbenDallas said:
Mine is a dual-SIM model J9110.
Haven't been paying attention... but apparently not.
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The phone will probably still be able to use data, but no calls will be possible since the phone doesn't support VoLTE on AT&T.
MeltdownSpectre said:
The phone will probably still be able to use data, but no calls will be possible since the phone doesn't support VoLTE on AT&T.
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The Phone supports it just fine. AT&T won't allow their servers to support the phone. They say its because they can't certify that it's safe to use for VoLTE and that means 911 calls could fail but it's really because they are pushing people to get AT&T branded phones and stay on a phone payment plan.

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