I recently switched from a Droid X (running CM9) to the Rezound, and I am loving it so far. I have read all the stickies on unlocking, rooting, and installing ROMs, and it is very different on this device. I understand the general idea, but I have a few questions...
For one, I am accustomed to being able to SBF back to factory if anything went wrong with my DX. I realize that there is no SBF process for a "bricked" Rezound, and that there are ways to fix your device if something goes wrong. I am wondering if there is a way to actually brick a Rezound beyond repair by just flashing ROMs and kernels. And if this does happen, has anyone had trouble getting a new device from Verizon after using HTCdev to unlock their device? I realize that it may void parts of the warranty, but I was just wondering if anyone has actually been denied a replacement device because of this.
My last question is, does Chrome work on ICS ROMs on the Rezound? I've looked through a lot of threads for the different ROMs in the development section, but I have not even seen it mentioned. On my Tab 10.1 (also CM9) and some other devices I have played with, you could just change the build number in the build.prop to fix Chrome if it didn't work with a ROM. Does this work for the Rezound?
Troider said:
I recently switched from a Droid X (running CM9) to the Rezound, and I am loving it so far. I have read all the stickies on unlocking, rooting, and installing ROMs, and it is very different on this device. I understand the general idea, but I have a few questions...
For one, I am accustomed to being able to SBF back to factory if anything went wrong with my DX. I realize that there is no SBF process for a "bricked" Rezound, and that there are ways to fix your device if something goes wrong. I am wondering if there is a way to actually brick a Rezound beyond repair by just flashing ROMs and kernels. And if this does happen, has anyone had trouble getting a new device from Verizon after using HTCdev to unlock their device? I realize that it may void parts of the warranty, but I was just wondering if anyone has actually been denied a replacement device because of this.
My last question is, does Chrome work on ICS ROMs on the Rezound? I've looked through a lot of threads for the different ROMs in the development section, but I have not even seen it mentioned. On my Tab 10.1 (also CM9) and some other devices I have played with, you could just change the build number in the build.prop to fix Chrome if it didn't work with a ROM. Does this work for the Rezound?
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Bricking is pretty tough on this phone. I haven't heard of full on bricking yet.
Also haven't heard of a warranty being voided just for flashing ROM's, at least for HTC.
There is a Chrome APK in the Themes forum. Sideload it as the very first thing you do once you flash an ICS rom. After that you are golden.
Good Luck.
Anyone know when ICS is out for Motorola Razr?
What? You aren't going to find to many people in this forum that actually care about an ICS release for the Razr.
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=motorola+razr+ics+release
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Anyone know when ICS is out for Motorola Razr?
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Try here... http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1361
Troider said:
I recently switched from a Droid X (running CM9) to the Rezound, and I am loving it so far. I have read all the stickies on unlocking, rooting, and installing ROMs, and it is very different on this device. I understand the general idea, but I have a few questions...
For one, I am accustomed to being able to SBF back to factory if anything went wrong with my DX. I realize that there is no SBF process for a "bricked" Rezound, and that there are ways to fix your device if something goes wrong. I am wondering if there is a way to actually brick a Rezound beyond repair by just flashing ROMs and kernels. And if this does happen, has anyone had trouble getting a new device from Verizon after using HTCdev to unlock their device? I realize that it may void parts of the warranty, but I was just wondering if anyone has actually been denied a replacement device because of this.
My last question is, does Chrome work on ICS ROMs on the Rezound? I've looked through a lot of threads for the different ROMs in the development section, but I have not even seen it mentioned. On my Tab 10.1 (also CM9) and some other devices I have played with, you could just change the build number in the build.prop to fix Chrome if it didn't work with a ROM. Does this work for the Rezound?
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I am a almost 3 year Motorola user using that root/flashing/sbf process. I haven't went back to unrooting yet on my Rezound, but I can tell you it's a little more difficult to get rooted than the original Motorola Droid and the Motorola Droid X2 (which is what i upgraded from).
First you have unlock the bootloader. I did it the slow way step-by-step through HTCDev.com becuase the noob method wasn't working for me. After you get the files you need from the SDK Android app it's pretty much easy from there to unlock the bastard.
Flashing new roms is pretty similiar, but there's a hitch. Usually when you flash a ROM you have to flash a kernal that is compabitable with the ROM. Which means you have to do it in the bootloader instead of in Recovery. The only time you don't have to do this is when the ROM has a built in kernal (boot.img) and it almost flashes it for you automatically.
I'm very happy with my upgrade from the X2, but then again the original X had a lot more variety as far as development. The X2 wasn't very popular even though for a short while it was the best specced pure 3G device on Verizon when 4G LTE came out.
I've tried a couple ICS ROMs and for the most part they're pretty damn stable with a few bugs in them. Personally I like ROMs very polished with literally almost no bugs so I'm sticking with GB ROMs until something pretty polished comes out. I will be totally happy with my Rezound if we get a full or pretty close to a full AOSP ROM released under Ice Cream Sandwich.
If you have any other questions private message me. I've owned the Rezound for about a week now and have been happy with it.
Chrome shows in the market for ics running rezounds, no need to side load.
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hello everybody i am a new galaxy s2 user , i have purchased this phone second hand ( 5 months old ) because i unfornately dropped my Dell Streak 5.
i have had it for 4 days and it has been a great phone but i have not flashed any custom roms to it just yet.
i cant really decide what to do because i still have some 7 months waranty left on my phone.
i really want to use this phone to its full potential but i have heard that a official ICS rom is on its way
should i wait for the official release or take the big step and flash for example , ressurection remix ics rom ?
greetings
welcome,
you upgrade your old phone dell steak 5 TO GS2.
Samsung Note kind of more closer match it?
cheers
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that is definately true i have had all three phones infront of me at the same time and the s2 was clearly the one i could handle the best.
the size of a 5 / 5.3 inch phone is just ridiculous, so i had to make the choice between display estate and functionality
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hello everybody i am a new galaxy s2 user , i have purchased this phone second hand ( 5 months old ) because i unfornately dropped my Dell Streak 5.
i have had it for 4 days and it has been a great phone but i have not flashed any custom roms to it just yet.
i cant really decide what to do because i still have some 7 months waranty left on my phone.
i really want to use this phone to its full potential but i have heard that a official ICS rom is on its way
should i wait for the official release or take the big step and flash for example , ressurection remix ics rom ?
greetings
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To address your question, at this stage I would suggest that waiting for official ICS is the safest option to protect your warranty and allow yourself a little time to get to grips with the phone.
It's allegedly just around the corner...allegedly!
Understand about the warranty,
But its never bothered me, Always on the day i have a new handset, i will root it and have a ROM Installed.
Its the best way, Features, Speed, Battery.
SGS2 is the best phone i have had, 0 Issues and rooting it was a breeze,
Personally i would go for it, the choice is unlimitedly yours.
But if you go through the forum, the threads or posts about bricking are pretty much none existing.
Just read up, ask questions you cannot go wrong
And if you do!! Unlock the power your phone Holds
(Am running Resurrection Remix ics v9.6)
And i love ICS
The ICS custom roms are buggy beta based ICS .
It is very hard to brick SGS2
Probable first rollout of ICS tomorrow .
Not long after we should have custom roms built on genuine ICS .
jje
Have been an Android user since November 2009 when I got my OG Droid, was rooted and ROMed in January after the 2.0.1 update came out and dev's cracked it. I really want a Note 2 but want to be sure we will see ROMs, Kernels and recoveries. From reading the Dev section it seems SBOOT is locked and we can't even get kexec at this point. It sounds like the VZW version may just be locked down too tight to get anything other than just Root. So, given all this, what do you guys think is the liklihood of use seeing custom ROMs, kernels and recoveries on the VZW Note 2?
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Have been an Android user since November 2009 when I got my OG Droid, was rooted and ROMed in January after the 2.0.1 update came out and dev's cracked it. I really want a Note 2 but want to be sure we will see ROMs, Kernels and recoveries. From reading the Dev section it seems SBOOT is locked and we can't even get kexec at this point. It sounds like the VZW version may just be locked down too tight to get anything other than just Root. So, given all this, what do you guys think is the liklihood of use seeing custom ROMs, kernels and recoveries on the VZW Note 2?
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Custom ROMs is fairly easy. The way the phone was rooted is how one would also do a custom ROM at this point. If we are to get more than that, we're going to need to find a way to unlock the bootloader, which so far, has been futile, but it was also people that have never really done it before trying. Hopefully, an unlock method is found, and we can then go with custom recoveries and kernels, along with easier to flash custom ROMs.
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Custom ROMs is fairly easy. The way the phone was rooted is how one would also do a custom ROM at this point. If we are to get more than that, we're going to need to find a way to unlock the bootloader, which so far, has been futile, but it was also people that have never really done it before trying. Hopefully, an unlock method is found, and we can then go with custom recoveries and kernels, along with easier to flash custom ROMs.
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So they would have to be just custom versions of the stock ROM correct, since you would have to continue using the stock kernel. Is AOSP basically impossible without unlocking the boot loader and getting custom kernels? I don't want to have to rely on VZW and Samsung for updates, at their pace 4.3 will be out and this will still be on it's current 4.1.1.
just gotta wait for a leak from someone important....hopefully it doesn't take as long as it did for the s3!
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So they would have to be just custom versions of the stock ROM correct, since you would have to continue using the stock kernel. Is AOSP basically impossible without unlocking the boot loader and getting custom kernels? I don't want to have to rely on VZW and Samsung for updates, at their pace 4.3 will be out and this will still be on it's current 4.1.1.
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You could do something that looks like AOSP, but no, I don't think you could get true AOSP until we get custom kernels.
I've been in Android for a few years now, and I've always defaulted towards AOSP since I hate the heavy overlays that these OEM's place on our devices, but this is the FIRST time in a long time that I will be saying this: why would you even want custom ROM's for this device?
I mean that, honestly. It's perfect. Sure it's nice to get root and modify certain things, but for the most part I don't see any 3rd party ROM trumping stock for this phone. Just the S Pen alone is reason enough to never want to leave stock.
I wasn't really lurking the Note 1 ROM scenes so I don't know how well developers were able to port S Pen functionality over to ROM's like CM10 etc, but I don't imagine they'd ever be able to fully integrate it to the level it is on stock.
And given the immense battery life, top notch performance on stock, I don't see a need to "trim the proverbial fat" of the actual firmware anyway. It's just, perfect.
You can have custom ROMs without getting rid of spen features. I agree with you that I wouldn't want an AOSP ROM but shaving a little weight off this thing wouldn't hurt
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Honestly, I'm just waiting for a rom that's debloated, deodexed, has unlimited multiview, wifi toggle, adjustable homescreen, etc. etc. Nothing major, unless some one comes up with some neat ideas on how to integrate the S Pen into the ROM for a better user experience. We've got a good dev community, so I remain optimistic that something cool will come our way.
i agree...i see no need for aosp on this device at this time. just need root and hopefully cwm recovery. samsung has touchwiz dialed in pretty well. however aosp will have its place when this device quits getting updates.
I'd just like it open and custom kernels I don't mind touchwiz on this type of device
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Honestly the S Pen is NOT at all what is drawing me to this phone, really couldn't care less about it to be honest. What IS drawing me to this phone is the bigger screen from my G-Nex, the faster processor, the bigger battery and the improved screen. Also the improved radios and data conenction from the notoriously bad G-Nex radios is a huge draw, but none of this is about the S Pen. I know I may be in the minority with my opinion here, but that's at least what I want, and to be honest, when is having more ROMs for a device worse than having less That's why I want AOSP ROMs and custom kernels etc.
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Honestly the S Pen is NOT at all what is drawing me to this phone, really couldn't care less about it to be honest. What IS drawing me to this phone is the bigger screen from my G-Nex, the faster processor, the bigger battery and the improved screen. Also the improved radios and data conenction from the notoriously bad G-Nex radios is a huge draw, but none of this is about the S Pen. I know I may be in the minority with my opinion here, but that's at least what I want, and to be honest, when is having more ROMs for a device worse than having less That's why I want AOSP ROMs and custom kernels etc.
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+1
But I will admit that I am PLEASANTLY suprised at how nice TW is. With an AOSP JellyBean launcher and lock screen I am really enjoying this thing. I am not sure what could really improve this bad boy other than some cleaned up stock ROM and OC kernel.
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xxxxmarkxxx said:
I'd just like it open and custom kernels I don't mind touchwiz on this type of device
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What I'd a custom kernel going to give you over stock performance? A few added features maybe, but it didn't seem like this phone needs undervolting or overclocking.
bose301s said:
Honestly the S Pen is NOT at all what is drawing me to this phone, really couldn't care less about it to be honest. What IS drawing me to this phone is the bigger screen from my G-Nex, the faster processor, the bigger battery and the improved screen. Also the improved radios and data conenction from the notoriously bad G-Nex radios is a huge draw, but none of this is about the S Pen. I know I may be in the minority with my opinion here, but that's at least what I want, and to be honest, when is having more ROMs for a device worse than having less That's why I want AOSP ROMs and custom kernels etc.
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Aosp roms are the hardest to get on cdma devices, plus isn't this chip a new one as well? Many hurdles to jump over before that happens.
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If we could have per app DPI on TW, that would be really cool. I'm confident we'll get this thing unlocked soon enough tho.
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im with the others...im very impressed at this UI of this phone. i would like a recovery and perhaps and overclock but the overclock isnt even needed IMO. other than that (thought id never say this) the stock rom nailed it. its apparent the people at samsung not only know what they are doing but listen to the consumer. i dont know how many of you are boaters but phones are like boats. you will never find the perfect one. however judging from the reviews so far this is about as close as it comes...from my point of view anyway..
and to think i was hesitant about getting it. i stood in the store for 30 minutes contemplating it. the rep was about to give up when i said "okay im pulling the trigger". first time i have ever bought a phone and not been 100% sure when i walked through the door.
I guess I have also been spoiled by the phones I have had, the OG Droid and the Galaxy Nexus, honestly I don't think any one phone has had a bigger and more vibrant community than the OG Droid, not even the Galaxy Nexus. I would like to be able to stay on the cutting edge of Android though, knowing that if a new version is released I should have it within 24-48 hours if not less. I am using 4.2.1 on my Nexus and quite like it, seems even smoother than 4.1.2 and also like the few new features, mainly the quick settings panel and PhotoSphere. I know the Galaxy series was one of the originators of the quick setting panel but I like Google's implementation quite a bit. Would just be weird to give up using CM after doing so for almost 3 years now. All decisions to consider. May pick up the phone at Best Buy and see if I like it an return it if I still prefer the Nexus.
There is a thread about them trying to get CM10 on the Note 2, but the VZW version might be the hardest.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2019535
Would it be useful to start a bounty for a bootloader unlock and custom recovery or for CM and AOSP on it? If so I would donate, just wondering what you all think.
I have said in a lot of devices forums in the past that the amount people will be able to do is proportional to the amount of effort and the support the communities give. In this case you guys have already bought adamOutler a phone, and he has torn it down, we have started to analyze the bare bones, and I'm sure hes looking for an unbreakable mod. With this being said lets address a couple of the questions at hand:
First off it does not look like their will be an easy fix to the fact that the bootloader is locked. The way that it looks in the white paper are their are efuses that are used as both a hardware key and possibly a configuration bit. Once this is set it cannot be unset. All hope is not lost though. With adam's UART he has found a couple loading points that might be inject a new bootloader and kernels and such there. However this is a shot in the dark, as it utilizes the fact that there is some security code loopholes in the boot chain to allow for injections.
Secondly there is always the possibility of custom roms. Using subsystems such as 2ndboot and such you can always make it so that you load a new system image onto the existing one, though this means longer boot up times. Also there is another cool thing out there called kexec (this may or may not be enabled in the default kernel). If enabled in the kernel, the kernel can shut down proc1 and then re initiate with a new kernel ontop of it. If properly coded all phones with the root ability have the ability to do this if they can issue a kexec. Kexec has been ported over to many phones, and some of which dont have kexec enabled in the existing kernel. This makes it so EVERY DEVICES THAT HAS ROOT HAS THE POSSIBILITY TO HAVE CUSTOM ROMS. However with kexec not being enabled on ever phone, it makes it hard to program ever phone to have the right kernel injection points.
The last thing is that to the best of my knowledge the bootloader code is not public, which makes it very hard to find vulnerabilities, however it does not mean that they never get found. Time. Time is all we ask for, as this is not our only job and it takes alot of hard work from devs free time to work and develop. With all that being said im sure in time someone some where will find a link.
Wondering if there is any way I can help. I am not new to Android, however I have never gone past using already fully known and documented things, standard rooting etc. I am interested in getting to know things better so if I can be of any help let me know.
Man I think this will be the last time I buy a Samsung phone from Verizon. The way they force samsung to lock down the bootloader is crazy.
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Hello,
I've rooted my XTZ and unlocked the bootloader. I've used TA-Backup to backup my DRM Keys. I'm on the 4.1.2 stock ROM still. I love the tablet interface of this ROM, so I have decided not to upgrade it yet. Based on this, I had a few questions about the custom ROMs I've seen there and what benefit I have in updating at all, or perhaps the cons.
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Are there any custom ROMs that use or have the tablet UI? They don't have to be based on stock ROMs.
Are there any ROMs that have a working IR Blaster?
Can I use any Sony apps in these custom ROMs and if so, where do I get them? I thoughtI saw them in the Apps and Themes forum.
Is there any reason I really need to go to a different ROM than 4.1.2? Speed benefits? Better battery life? Video performance?
What are the main reasons not to use a custom ROM?
Thank you for any help you can provide.
ColdSunNC said:
Hello,
I've rooted my XTZ and unlocked the bootloader. I've used TA-Backup to backup my DRM Keys. I'm on the 4.1.2 stock ROM still. I love the tablet interface of this ROM, so I have decided not to upgrade it yet. Based on this, I had a few questions about the custom ROMs I've seen there and what benefit I have in updating at all, or perhaps the cons.
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If you are happy with the ROM usability and performance I see no reason to meddle with the ROM as it is. Personally I kmow what you mean, even with all the stock Sony apps it is quite a quick runner. I never had issues of lag or slowness. Whatever OEM bloatware is added is honestly not very much bloated, at lewst no comparison to a few years ago when basically your only way to get a lag and nagfree device was switching to a custom ROM. Also many features thought up by the dev community have in some way or another been adopted by the OEMs over time.
Might also be a matter of habit and perception. You see so many threads about this or that ROM develpment, like Cyanogenmod immediately after market release. This also made me try it once and I really disliked. And went back to stock. So, the scramble for custom ROMs for many people is NOT to avoid the crappy unusable stock ROM but rather the fact that they already have grown used to say vanilla Android or CyanMod. And I can totally understand them, I have been buying HTC phones for many years because I was so happy with Sense. To each his own and if you are happy, great.
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Are there any custom ROMs that use or have the tablet UI? They don't have to be based on stock ROMs.
Are there any ROMs that have a working IR Blaster?
Can I use any Sony apps in these custom ROMs and if so, where do I get them? I thoughtI saw them in the Apps and Themes forum.
Is there any reason I really need to go to a different ROM than 4.1.2? Speed benefits? Better battery life? Video performance?
What are the main reasons not to use a custom ROM?
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4. I would take advantage of the official Sony upgrades unless there is something in 4.2.2 you totally hate. Sony has announced to upgrade at least through 4.3 and 4.4 and I will gladly check their stock updates out when they come. Speed benefits might exist, but I think on the negligible side... Maybe measurable with a benchmark but unnoticeable in normsl use. Battery life might be a tad bit better if less stuff runs in tne background, but if some Sony apps or whatnot bother you,much can be turned off under Settings/Apps and whats resilient can be disabled with TiBackup freeze mode. Ask if you need more detailed instructions. I have dumped all the Facebook / Twitter stuff and then some, and while it still is on the tsblet snd in the ROM it is just deactivated and takes no runtime resources.
Thank you, Walter_White. That information was exactly what I was looking for. I'm very satisfied with the performance and layout of 4.1.2. I don't much care for the change they made to the tablet UI in 4.2 so I'll likely wait until 4.3 is released and just upgrade then. My bootloader is unlocked though, so I guess I'll have to use the Sony PC Companion to upgrade and then lose root, unless someone figures that out beforehand.
If someone made an update for a custom ROM that had all my Sony applications and IR functionality, with the tablet UI, I would try it though. I'll also try finding the apps that could cause performance issues like you mentioned.
Again, thanks for this help.