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I have an LG G4 - with stock v20B Marshmallow - it is bootloader unlocked and rooted
I have removed some of the bloatware from LG and Google, but apparently I removed one program too many
the problem is, when I am on a call, I used to be able to use the back button while on the call and look up information, run another, app, etc.
but now my home touch buttons (BACK, HOME, WINDOW) don't show up during a call, although they show up at any other time, even on the dialer when a call is not in progress, and everything else about the phone works fine.
so which LG or Google program controls this, that I could have deleted?
Just received the V30 from Verizon. I wanted to upload all my apps from my google account by restoring the apps from my previous phone. I wanted to do this via wifi (need to get a different SIM for the V30), and once I select the device from my Google Play account to restore to the V30, the V30 screen goes all white and then times out going to black. Pressing and holding the back button initially does nothing but after multiple presses the screen with turn all white again.
Do anyone have a clue as to what's going on with my device. Alredy did a hard reset once and started over.
Hello, did you solve any way? I have the same issue on my new V30+. I have already soft reset the smartphone two times, but nothing changed.
It was previously just in a bootloop and didn't want to turn on the screen at all. Managed to somehow boot it up today and factory reset (AGAIN) and connected to my less used Google account just to be safe (less data to sync).
Previous problem I had is still there however. When I click the menu button even lightly (not holding down), it opens up Assistant. Voice commands haven't crashed the watch yet but if I click on Assistant settings or anything else, screen will turn black and it won't reboot. Only way to reboot it to place it on the charger and hold down the power button.
I also have a logcat from Bluetooth debugging. Log ends when watch shuts down after clicking anything on Assistant. Started logging right after startup and all I did was install some updates which took a while.
Nothing extraordinary at the bottom of the log stands out to me but I'm probably not as good as some of you at reading logs. There seems to be several errors occurring.
https://gist.githubusercontent.com/...3adc70142c5126ad2237d3ba19c9908a88177/log.log
Also video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OAWlFwCF2Y
I did all the updates on Play Store (WearOS, Google etc) but problem still persists.
Any help is really appreciated.
Have had lots of problems with 2 v30's bought off ebay. This last one I can not acess anything pushing volume down and power, just keeps looping or will boot up. I have refurbished with latest us998 kdz on refurbish, but that didnt fix above problem, anyone know how to restore that part? Thanks for the help...
From Off, Vol Down + Pwr, then as soon as LG V30 logo appears, release PWR and reapply and hold.
Is that what yer doing?
newbe1droidx said:
Have had lots of problems with 2 v30's bought off ebay. This last one I can not access anything pushing volume down and power, just keeps looping or will boot up. I have refurbished with latest us998 kdz on refurbish, but that didn't fix above problem, anyone know how to restore that part? Thanks for the help...
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Hey @newbe1droidx, what is it you are trying to access with that button combination?
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Hey @newbe1droidx, what is it you are trying to access with that button combination?
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Its supposed to alow me to manually get to restore settings and factory reset when cant get to settings in android per lg email before you helped me do lgup. Since imei and serial number dont match i probably will go back and try to unlock bootloader etc and turn this into an mp3 etc player. Or try to make it a verizon phone for my service.
I think because its supposed to be there but isnt it bothers me maybe more than it should
newbe1droidx said:
Its supposed to alow me to manually get to restore settings and factory reset when cant get to settings in android per lg email before you helped me do lgup. Since imei and serial number dont match i probably will go back and try to unlock bootloader etc and turn this into an mp3 etc player. Or try to make it a verizon phone for my service.
I think because its supposed to be there but isnt it bothers me maybe more than it should
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You can also do Master Reset.
Master Reset -- using buttons:
1. Unplug phone and turn it OFF.
2. Press and hold the Power and Volume down buttons.
3. When the LG logo appears, quickly release the Power button only -- then immediately press Power button again, while STILL pressing the Volume down button until you see the screen to select Yes to erase and reset everything.
4. Release both buttons so you can make your choices.
With your device powered off, press and hold the Power button and Volume Down buttons simultaneously for a few seconds.
When the LG logo appears, quickly release and then re-hold the Power button while keep holding the Volume Down button.
Let go of the buttons when the onscreen menu appears.
When you see the option to Delete all user data (including LG and carrier apps) and reset all settings message prompt, press the Volume Down button to highlight Yes.
Then press the Power button to reset the device.
Wait until the reset is complete then reboot your device. If it’s able to boot up successfully, proceed with the initial setup.
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ChazzMatt said:
You can also do Master Reset.
Master Reset -- using buttons:
1. Unplug phone and turn it OFF.
2. Press and hold the Power and Volume down buttons.
3. When the LG logo appears, quickly release the Power button only -- then immediately press Power button again, while STILL pressing the Volume down button until you see the screen to select Yes to erase and reset everything.
4. Release both buttons so you can make your choices.
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Thanks I'll try that, thats not how lg said to do it, always learning....
newbe1droidx said:
Thanks I'll try that, thats not how lg said to do it, always learning....
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To my knowledge, Master Reset is more powerful version of Factory Reset.
EDIT: it may or may not be factory reset with hardware buttons, but is still referred to as Master Reset in all OEM and carrier documentation.
ChazzMatt said:
To my knowledge, Master Reset is more powerful version of Factory Reset.
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I don't think there's any difference Matt. Just 2 ways of doing it. 1 is with phone on select reset thru the menu options, the other is with the key combo.
While diff LG phones may use diff key combo's to factory reset, I've never seen anything for the V30 than exactly what we've been using, and it's always referred to as 'factory reset', the only time I've read it referred to as 'master reset' is in a few of the threads (WTF) here.
It seems to me, if there was a difference, it would be well known? And we'd have some idea of what exactly the difference is? But we don't.
Cheers
AsItLies said:
I don't think there's any difference Matt. Just 2 ways of doing it. 1 is with phone on select reset thru the menu options, the other is with the key combo.
While diff LG phones may use diff key combo's to factory reset, I've never seen anything for the V30 than exactly what we've been using, and it's always referred to as 'factory reset', the only time I've read it referred to as 'master reset' is in a few of the threads (WTF) here.
It seems to me, if there was a difference, it would be well known? And we'd have some idea of what exactly the difference is? But we don't.
Cheers
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Well, somebody tried recovery GUI factory reset in Frankenstein recently instead of "Master Reset" and messed up their phone. They also mistakenly flashed Oreo first, instead of Nougat. So, while it may be the same, I go with what works.
Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
ChazzMatt said:
Well, somebody tried factory reset in Frankenstein recently instead of "Master Reset" and messed up their phone. They also mistakenly flashed Oreo first, instead of Nougat. So, while it may be the same, I go with what works.
Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
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I'm not saying do one over the other, just that they are probably both exactly the same, anecdotal evidence notwithstanding. If the key combo one has worked in the past, by all means, keep using it. But if there's no actual confirmed evidence indicating it does anything other than a simple factory reset, why call it something else?
doing so, imho, just adds more unnecessary complexity.
AsItLies said:
I'm not saying do one over the other, just that they are probably both exactly the same, anecdotal evidence notwithstanding. If the key combo one has worked in the past, by all means, keep using it. But if there's no actual confirmed evidence indicating it does anything other than a simple factory reset, why call it something else?
doing so, imho, just adds more unnecessary complexity.
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Because all the LG OEM and carrier documentation calls it something else. Everyone specifically calls it Master Reset.
Two examples of many:
(T-mobile) Master reset with hardware keys
(Verizon) Master Reset (Powered Off)
It may indeed be a "factory reset", but it can be done without going into Recovery menu -- which on the V30 is hard to do with the button dance.
ChazzMatt said:
Because all the LG OEM and carrier documentation calls it something else. Everyone specifically calls it Master Reset.
Two examples of many:
Master reset with hardware keys
Master Reset (Powered Off)
It may indeed be a "factory reset", but it can be done without going into Recovery menu -- which on the V30 is hard to do with the button dance.
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It **is** just a factory reset. Even the documentation above indicates it as such:
"The Factory data reset screen appears."
I'm not suggesting people use the Recovery Menu. Just that calling it something other than 'factory data reset' leads people to believe its somehow different. It's not. The documentation says as much.
I'd suggest this: Say something like "I've always used the following key combination to do a factory reset, and recommend it as it's always worked"....
And leave it at that. As it's nothing more.
Ok either way i tried it and the other way still doesn't give me a menu, no big thing time to move on to the next. So i can now lgup to latest verizon?
newbe1droidx said:
Ok either way i tried it and the other way still doesn't give me a menu, no big thing time to move on to the next. So i can now lgup to latest verizon?
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Sure.
AsItLies said:
It **is** just a factory reset. Even the documentation above indicates it as such:
"The Factory data reset screen appears."
I'm not suggesting people use the Recovery Menu. Just that calling it something other than 'factory data reset' leads people to believe its somehow different. It's not. The documentation says as much.
I'd suggest this: Say something like "I've always used the following key combination to do a factory reset, and recommend it as it's always worked"....
And leave it at that. As it's nothing more.
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There is actually one HUGE difference between Factory Reset from the Settings menu and Master Reset using the Button Dance: The latter invokes Factory Reset Protection (FRP) while the former does not. In other words: If a Google account was registered in the device when Master Reset (Button Dance) is performed, the phone will be locked down until that same account has been entered after the reset. The same is true of any other wipe initiated outside the OS.
If Factory Reset is performed from the Settings menu, the device is released from that account before being wiped, and Factory Reset Protection is not invoked. The same thing can be accomplished by manually removing the account BEFORE performing the Master Reset: Settings > General > Accounts > Google > Remove account.
At least in the US, this is required by law to deter theft (to my understanding).
Whether there are other differences between the two in their actual wiping, I do not know.
There IS a deeper Engineering reset available from the Service Menu: Dial *#546368#*932# (replace 932 with your model number). From there SVC Menu > Factory Reset (R&D Only). I used that once to overcome a stubborn carrier lock issue. But I cannot guarantee that it doesn't do other things that might be undesirable.
TheDannemand said:
There is actually one HUGE difference between Factory Reset from the Settings menu and Master Reset using the Button Dance: The latter invokes Factory Reset Protection (FRP) while the former does not. In other words: If a Google account was registered in the device when Master Reset (Button Dance) is performed, the phone will be locked down until that same account has been entered after the reset. The same is true of any other wipe initiated outside the OS.
If Factory Reset is performed from the Settings menu, the device is released from that account before being wiped, and Factory Reset Protection is not invoked. The same thing can be accomplished by manually removing the account BEFORE performing the Master Reset: Settings > General > Accounts > Google > Remove account.
At least in the US, this is required by law to deter theft (to my understanding).
Whether there are other differences between the two in their actual wiping, I do not know.
There IS a deeper Engineering reset available from the Service Menu: Dial *#546368#*932# (replace 932 with your model number). From there SVC Menu > Factory Reset (R&D Only). I used that once to overcome a stubborn carrier lock issue. But I cannot guarantee that it doesn't do other things that might be undesirable.
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I have a little experience with the FRP lock thing. Sold a phone that iirc, did the reset through the settings->menu with phone on.
Assumed, like all other phones I've had, it was completely reset. It was not. The buyer sent me emails in a panic assuming I was trying to rip them off or something. Nothing could have been further from the truth.
This is why, I always suggest to people, remove any accounts (google email etc) AND any finger prints, patterns etc PRIOR to doing a reset.
I honestly don't remember which way I did the reset on that phone, a G6, I *think* it was the settings->menu. Could be wrong, it's been quite a while.
But I think the context in which we are talking about 'factory reset'... the phone isn't being sold later. If the reset protection did somehow bizarrely get invoked, simple solution, enter the password for your email account, done.
But yes, the FRP lock thing is an important aspect to this. It came as a shock to me when I thought the phone was completely reset, but it wasn't. Frustrating experience.
Cheers
AsItLies said:
I have a little experience with the FRP lock thing. Sold a phone that iirc, did the reset through the settings->menu with phone on.
Assumed, like all other phones I've had, it was completely reset. It was not. The buyer sent me emails in a panic assuming I was trying to rip them off or something. Nothing could have been further from the truth.
This is why, I always suggest to people, remove any accounts (google email etc) AND any finger prints, patterns etc PRIOR to doing a reset.
I honestly don't remember which way I did the reset on that phone, a G6, I *think* it was the settings->menu. Could be wrong, it's been quite a while.
But I think the context in which we are talking about 'factory reset'... the phone isn't being sold later. If the reset protection did somehow bizarrely get invoked, simple solution, enter the password for your email account, done.
But yes, the FRP lock thing is an important aspect to this. It came as a shock to me when I thought the phone was completely reset, but it wasn't. Frustrating experience.
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Thank you.
It does sound like you may have performed a Master Reset outside the OS when you sold that G6. That would cause exactly the situation the seller described. And it can be very annoying.
I made that mistake myself one time, performing a Master Reset (Button Dance) before sending my phone to LG service to replace a camera lens. I just didn't give any thought to the fact that it might be a problem. After trying for several days, they were unable to get into the phone or do anything with it. They ended up ditching it and sending me a refurbished phone instead. Lesson learnt!
Absolutely, the context here is a different one. But I think it makes sense to distinguish the two procedures (as @ChazzMatt was doing) since they are indeed different -- if nothing else in regards to FRP.
TheDannemand said:
Thank you.
It does sound like you may have performed a Master Reset outside the OS when you sold that G6. That would cause exactly the situation the seller described. And it can be very annoying.
I made that mistake myself one time, performing a Master Reset (Button Dance) before sending my phone to LG service to replace a camera lens. I just didn't give any thought to the fact that it would be a problem. After trying for several days, they were unable to get into the phone or do anything with it. They ended up ditching it and sending me a refurbished phone instead. Lesson learnt!
Absolutely, the context here is a different one. But I think it makes sense to distinguish the two procedures (as @ChazzMatt was doing) since they are indeed different -- if nothing else in regards to FRP.
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I'm still calling it Master Reset for the Frankenstein instructions. And yes, it's somehow slightly different from the Recovery settings "factory reset". Just a little tired of debating it.
In the Frankenstein instructions, you are doing that step to stabilize then go to the next firmware. It's your phone you want to convert to another variant.
Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
ChazzMatt said:
I'm still calling it Master Reset for the Frankenstein instructions. And yes, it's somehow slightly different from the Recovery settings "factory reset". Just a little tired of debating it.
In the Frankenstein instructions, you are doing that step to stabilize then go to the next firmware. It's your phone you want to convert to another variant.
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I agree with that. And I apologize for re-opening the debate. I just thought that difference with FRP was important in general -- even if not applicable to the OP's case.
But then there is also the Engineering Reset, which I can testify does things beyond the normal Factory Reset / Master Reset. It's worth keeping in mind as a last resort.
Over & out then
TheDannemand said:
I agree with that. And I apologize for re-opening the debate. I just thought that difference with FRP was important in general -- even if not applicable to the OP's case.
But then there is also the Engineering Reset, which I can testify does things beyond the normal Factory Reset / Master Reset. It's worth keeping in mind as a last resort.
Over & out then
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No, I thank you for the additional information. It proves it is different from regular factory reset.
My comment was more than add on to your comment, not necessarily a direct reply.
Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
== WARNING - PIE 9 is not compatible with a known Android OS 8.0 security vulnerability that can be used to achieve ROOT. DO NOT UPDATE to 9.0 if you use this method. See post below for links and info. ==
== Warning: Pie 9.0 screws with the audio through the headphones and speakers! The equalization is different and output volume is quieter than 7/8!! If you bought the G6 for the sound profile, you'll lose it in Pie. Even equalizing manually doesn't bring it in line with 7/8. Other users of other makes have also noticed this Pie problem on Samsungs, etc. ==
You could start with something like this equalization in the music player to try and restore the original profile of the G6.
https://ibb.co/r3YWgbZ
I bought a H873 cheap, $120, off eBay on the last 7.0.
For whatever reason, OTA and LG Bridge couldn't connect to the network to update to 8.0 even though there wasn't any issue with my Win10 laptop on latest updates. I did this to upgrade to 8.0 releases several times, and today, to 9.0.
Finally found a working, easy solution to update the firmware anytime to the latest available when ota and lg bridge don't work that works for 9.0/Pie as well.
Note!
9.0/PIE has the problem where if you turn on COMFORT DISPLAY AND ALWAYS ON DISPLAY, THEN REBOOT THE PHONE WITH BOTH ON, no Always on Display shows up.
To fix this, TURN OFF Comfort Display and Always on Display.
Next, sleep and wake the phone (press the power button).
Turn on AOD, then sleep the phone.
You should now see the aod.
Wake the phone. Turn on comfort display.
Sleep the phone to test aod. Should be ok now.
0. Try LG Bridge first.
This is the Official way where you connect phone to PC, then officially update the firmware using LG consumer software.
https://www.lg.com/us/support/product-help/CT10000025-1438110404543-lg-backup-lg-switch
This also ensures you can see your phone when connected to the PC.
You'll want to click the pop-up notification on the LG G6 to switch the usb mode to file transfer mode instead of just charging.
0. BACKUP YOUR PHONE!!!! BACKUP YOUR PHONE!!
While this should be an easy in-place upgrade from 7/8 to 9, don't expect anything to go 100% perfectly. Backup just in case.
1. Now, if that and OTA didn't work, you'll install Uppercut (a launcher for LG Up to enable compatibility with the G6 and other phones) + LG Up (their firmware flashing program not for consumers).
DOWNLOAD UPPERCUT And LGUP from this thread.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g5/development/uppercut-lgup-loader-g5-variants-t3511295
If LG Bridge is already installed and it sees your phone when connected, you don't need the LG USB drivers download. Otherwise, download this, uppercut and lg up (3 total).
2. Install lg drivers (if needed), then lg up.
DISABLE YOUR ANTIVIRUS!
Microsoft AV thinks Uppercut is a trojan - you definitely do not want important upgrade programs and files to be quarantined during a flash upgrade!
Unzip uppercut anywhere, run it and it'll start lg up.
Connect phone (make sure usb mode is in file transfer mode) and it should show up in lg up.
Now disconnect the phone - you've confirmed it'll show up, but will switch to download mode later.
3. Download the kdz (firmware) file of your choice.
https://lg-firmwares.com
There's a ton of places online for this, and I used this one. Just type in your model number, eg "h873", to look for one.
Now, you know the model number of the firmware MUST match (in general) your phone, so check (settings, general, about phone, hardware version). (Yes, there are other ways to cross flash, etc. See other threads).
For the H873, doesn't matter which carrier - rogers, etc - all identical. Otherwise, you'll generally want the same as your current one (e.g. T-Mobile firmware for T-Mobile phone).
I used the Rogers KDZ file named H87330b_00_OPEN_CA_OP_0917.kdz for Pie (Android 9 Pie 3.03 GiB 2019-10-24).
DOWNLOAD THE MATCHING FIRMWARE FOR YOUR LG G6 MODEL!!! Eg. Look for the H873 firmware if you have a H873. Don't use the wrong one.
4. Switch phone to download mode
Plug a USB cable into your computer (not into the LG G6 yet)
Power down the LG G6.
Press and hold the Volume Up button.
Connect the USB cable to the LG G6.
Continue holding the Volume Up button until it boots into Download Mode.
This should only take less than 5 seconds after you have plugged the phone into the PC while the volume up button is held down.
You'll see a black screen, DOWNLOAD mode, box at the bottom for status.
5. Load the kdz in lg up by RUNNING UPPERCUT to start LG UP!
With phone connected, in file manager mode, and lg up running by starting Uppercut, you'll see the phone listed at top (it'll list the current firmware version on the phone - e.g. H87320h).
In the middle, select UPGRADE from the 4 Process options. This will upgrade your phone firmware like an ota, keeping everything.
SELECT THE UPGRADE option, SELECT THE UPGRADE option (not refurbish, no FOTA Upgrade).
In the bottom, click on the BIN FILE line once, then click the ... Icon that appears at the end of this line to open a file selection window.
Select the kdz file you downloaded in step 3. (The latest PIE firmware you downloaded from LG-Firmwares.com.)
6. Make sure your computer is connected to AC and won't go to sleep (keep moving your mouse every minute, or adjust power settings).
MAKE SURE YOUR PC WON'T GO TO SLEEP!!!!
The Phone should still be in download mode.
Click Start in LG Up and you'll see it sending files. The G6 will show progress as well.
3-4 minutes to load the KDZ file into the phone over a USB 3.0 port (USB 2.0 will be slower).
A few minutes and the new firmware will be loaded, then the phone will auto reboot to update.
Doesn't matter if you disconnect now, but you can keep in plugged in to charge.
When you see the LG G6 logo on the reboot, you can close Uppercut, and restart your Antivirus.
Reboot took 4 minutes on my LG G6 H873.
Finishing system update after getting to the home screen took another minute.
About 2-3 minutes more to feel not so sluggish as it finished up background updating.
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The downloading and installing of uppercut etc takes a few minutes, kdz depends on server speed, and update just a few minutes, so not hard at all.
Really nothing major to worry about (BACKUP before any firmware update if needed to microsd card), and my H873 is running fine on the latest Pie firmware noted above.
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(If needed, disconnect the phone from USB, press power button a few times quickly to get into Firmware Download mode - waiting. Then, volume down+power until the phone reboots into normal operation/mode.)
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Because the main functionality of the phone is typically updated through downloaded apps like Twitter, updating the OS itself only really gets you compatibility with apps that have dropped support for 7 or 8, a few interface gui tweaks, and newer security updates.
Otherwise, like many will discover, 9 is just the usual gui / icon tweak with little else of benefit. No real reason to update unless you need the updated OS for app compatibility. I could run my LG G6 on 7, 8, or 9 and not notice any difference in day-to-day use.
Pie any good?
5/5/20 - Running 9 for a few months. Stable.
4.5~ hrs on my battery, decent knowing that it's an old battery in the phone and runtime isn't far off from 8.0. The SCREEN BRIGHTNESS is the biggest factor - go above 40%~ and the lg quickly burns through the battery much faster, go below and it can run an hour longer or so. The second is the wireless connection. 4G signal isn't so strong and it'll use more battery life.
3C battery monitor app does a good job tracking the charge/use cycles and graphs.
Quickcharge 3.0 is a few minutes slower than pd charging, but about 1:40 hours to a full charge. QC toots it helps lengthen battery life, and since the moto qc charger runs cooler than my Samsung pd charger, I've switched to the qc charging.
Settled into the audio levels difference. Just have to apply EQ + on all frequencies to get the volume up in noisy environments using the speaker. Otherwise, it's fine driving headphones at the normal eq.
Everything's generally stable. No ui issues of note. Settle in and the phone just works.
Very rare issue where the ui gets to the point where it pops up a wait/stop app prompt, but a reboot gets past that. Could be from visiting all those "dangerous" websites since regular browsing doesn't do it. Maybe twice I recall in many months on 9.
So only outstanding point would be if you want the root from the 8.0 vulnerability noted in the other thread, you'll be stuck without root on 9.0.
Otherwise, stable and good enough to run 9.0 daily.
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No improvements in functionality that I can find. Basically the same experience as oreo.
For those that really need two Facebook accounts at the same time, pie does let you install two Facebook, skype, line, etc apps independent of each other. Can't think of any good reason or use.
Only big exception is no way to force location top use ONLY gps, no a-gps. This means it locks faster, but can waste power in low cell connection areas trying to connect to towers for a-gps info. Plus, security risk as it gives the government one more way to constantly track you.
Initial surfing showed it to be eating more battery, but now, a few days later with the system settled in, looking better than 8.0. Maybe 4-5 hours on 8.0, 5-6 hours on 9.0. Need to try it out longer to see of this holds up.
I've got everything possible turned off - unused apps disabled, sync off, gps, bt, wifi, nfc off - only auto brightness and cellular on and always on display on except 8 hours at night. Standby at night is as good as oreo as configured - practically 0% change in battery life as I've experienced with Oreo , too.
Another annoyance is the headphone volume especially when turned to the lowest sounds quieter than in Oreo. In Oreo, I simply used a custom equalizer setting to go even quieter, but now, I have to use a higher volume at night. Hope this doesn't mean I have to use a custom volume setting to go louder art the high end outdoors.
A gui annoyance is the home touch button bar at the bottom has lost its white on black theme. Only light gray on white and very light shades of a few colors. Plus, the bar color sometimes changes to the theme of the app (like red with opera browser) making it far more annoying than it should be. This should stay the same color regardless of app, but broken in Pie.
The square button in the bottom toolbar (non-gesture gui) used to switch between the current and prior used app quickly, but in 9.0 it's not reliable and often returns to the same app. Bad.
Rotation stutters. If you rotate the phone past 45 degrees than back quickly before it switches to landscape mode, especially with the keyboard visible, you can see the gui lag and stutter as it tries to cancel the rotation.
They fixed the translucency on the clock widget, adjustable, so you can read it when placed over photo backgrounds - e.g. Pure white or black solid color rather than translucent. But, they don't let you adjust it for the weather widget!??
To get the qslide calculator, you still need to install it on your own. https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g6/help/qslide-calculator-t3596931/amp/
When selecting text and adjusting the selection range, a tiny magnifier box appears so you can see what letters you are selecting. But, it doesn't show the selection point with a cursor like Oreo, only highlights the selected text - slower.
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So, a lot of work to backup, download, prep lgup and uppercut, simply to update it to 9 with no obvious changes to the camera and other lg apps.
This is because Most of the Functionality comes from the apps you download, which comes from the Google Play Store. Thus, 8 or 9, the apps work the same and you get the same updated functionality (maps. Facebook. Etc) regardless.
Seriously, from 7 to 8 to 9, it still works and looks and acts the same basically and no real incentive to keep updating unless you'd like marginally better security (old exploits patched).
BUT, lg is terrible at frequent updates, once every 4-6 months, which means your exposed to new exploits for 4-6 months even on pie. Might as well run a good antivirus like bitdefender to catch new viruses than to depend on lg for timely os updates.
The ONLY good reason to update otherwise is to run apps that have dropped support for 7 or 8. Else, I could honestly run on 7 or 8 today and not notice any benefits from upgrading to 9.
https://developer.android.com/about/dashboards
Notice that 4.4-5.1 still run 1 of 5 android devices in active use! Even Facebook and Messenger support installation on 4.4, so I wouldn't worry about being on an older OS for years to come.
Thank you for this detailed guide. My friend has tried using uppercut but it reports that we insert a Metadata key.
We are quite surprised by such an error.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g6/how-to/root-howto-as993-wip-t3908213/post80908533#post80908533
https://repo.or.cz/cve2019-2215-3.18.git/tree/refs/heads/master:/release
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g6/how-to/root-howto-as993-wip-t3908213/post80908533#post80908533
NOTE - The root method using the vulnerability exposed by CVE-2019-2215 WILL NOT WORK in PIE 9.0. Those who want root and are using this method SHOULD NOT UPGRADE TO PIE!
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Also, due to changes in Android 9+ by stupid Google, programs such as 3C Battery Monitor won't be able to access correct battery statistics without rooting + workarounds (see 3C xda thread).
Thanks for this useful summary. Pie was just released in my region (30c), but based on your observations I think I'll pass. Seems like a downgrade.
Major upgrades tend to slow down old devices anyway
Correct. No significant changes of note in 9 thus far that I've noticed worth the trouble after months of use. Just moving things around, theme and gui changes. LG really isn't updating security fast either, so 9 isn't better in this regard.
Thanks, it worked on my LG G6 (
LGH870_ORI)
I now have Pie!
Error "kdz file is invalid"
i am using lg g6 H-87320h model. and when i try to flash file as described above it shows error "kdz file is invalid".
firmware trying to flash is "H87330b_00_OPEN_CA_OP_0917".
eddited :
file was corrupted somehow. downloaded again and it went all fine
Just to make sure, this method only work for G6 phones that have the official android Pie already, right? I mean, there is many G6 H870 versions that don't have official Pie yet.
This method should work fine to update a lg g6 on official 7 or 8 to 9.
The same method works if you want to update 7 to 8, or 8 to 9, too.
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For my H873, I saw numerous firmwares on lg-firmwares.com for various Canadian carriers like Rogers.
You'll want to double-check, but I read somewhere that as long as the model is the same (h873), doesn't matter which carrier's H873 firmware you flash. They all work.
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From this, but double check with experienced xda folks,
Lg-firmwares.com has a long list of countries under H870. I'd assume, but double check, any of them can update a H870 to 9.0.
The differences would be language, pre-installed apps, and carrier customizations.
I'm on Android 8. I've updated my LG G6 a couple of times using the above method. Now, whenever I power off the phone and then hold the UP button and put USB cable in, it just goes to the battery animation and that's it. I've tried numerous times and even reset the phone, but can't get it to .
I'm on 8.0.0 Feb 1 , 2019 build. H87320i. Can anyone help me update to version 9? Thanks.
That's weird.
Try holding the power down 5-10 seconds until the phone powers off.
Then follow the steps.
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Try a different usb cable and port.
Try a different computer.
Otherwise, ask around xda forums. That's a weird problem.
thewonderer said:
I'm on Android 8. I've updated my LG G6 a couple of times using the above method. Now, whenever I power off the phone and then hold the UP button and put USB cable in, it just goes to the battery animation and that's it. I've tried numerous times and even reset the phone, but can't get it to .
I'm on 8.0.0 Feb 1 , 2019 build. H87320i. Can anyone help me update to version 9? Thanks.
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Hey, yah that's really weird. I think you should try changing your cable with a good one, and the USB port change too.
Because it doesn't matter what firmware version you are al LG devices boot into bootloader mode by holding up the volume up key + connecting the USB cable.
That's the standard behaviour of all thr custom roms on all devices i ever had, when charging in soft - off mode. (My G6 is still running stock).
The kernel has to be booted for charging and in these cases will keep running after unplugging.
This shouldn't happen if the phone is already in Dowmload or Fastboot Mode prior to attaching it.
On some devices(i never did it with rhe G6) it's necessary to hold a button while attaching the usb cable. Then you probably must try a different usb port or even pc. It should work best with a Usb 2.0 port at 0,5 amperes, w/o a charging mode for phones (2amps and more).
A black usb port, none of the blue(standard usb3), yellow and red ones.
(as the G6 boots really long before starting to charge in soft-off mode, i suspect that it boots the whole system instead of only the kernel, just like IOS devices, that would be rather special for Android. And it hasn't even the Project Treble architecture, where this may be common)
Hi everyone and thanks a lot for your works !
I have a lg g6 h870 V20H-EUR-XX. It is a stock rom, installed with twrp and rooted with magisk.
What is the best way to get android pie and still have the root with magisk.
Should i go on the original rom and make update ?
Or just flash with twrp a h87030 rom and magisk ?
Sorry for my english
Thank you very much
ehhh, and i probably bricked device this way :/
all the time only animated logo of LG after start :/ loaded version H87030b_00_ORG_COM_OP_1105 and everything goes good during process just that booting all time and time and time ... ;(
Can i update my G6 to Pie ?
I have converted my H871 to H873 and its on H873320i ..ok i tried flashing Pie but my device bricked ...so flash stock again ..can i upgrade my lg h873 to Pie ?
wheh device was bricked i used LHUp ttol to brick ..so Uppercut work for Pie ???
How Pie screws audio on G6 regarding first post? i put pie on my H870 and ok, not issues at all