I'm hoping to use the galaxy tab s7 spen on my note 20 ultra as I find it to be much better to grip than the small note 20 ultra spen, does anyone know how I would be able to charge the s7 spen, if I don't actually own the tab s7 tablet? I have a tab s6 so not sure if it can charge on the tab s6?. Also does the spen work on any other android phone or tablet?
I can confirm that standard wireless charging does not charge the s Pen. As a matter of fact, there is no battery in the Tab 7+ s Pen. It's simply an induction coil that operates from a low power charging strip on the back of the tablet. The Tab 7+ stylus uses a wireless connection to the Tab 7+, where as the Note 20 Ultra uses capacitive touch.
I own both devices and have been unable to cross the stylus' between the two, since they use different technologies.
I have no experience with aftermarket, but if you want full size, I think you might be stuck looking for something like this:
Stylus Capacitive and Resistive Pen Touch Compact Lightweight
2 in 1 Capacitive stylus and resistive hard tip stylus combination. IMPORTANT NOTE: This is NOT a replacement for your phone's original built-in internal stylus. It is for separate use and a generic stylus. It is NOT an S-Pen. Will NOT fit to your phone's internal stylus slot if your phone has...
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I can confirm that standard wireless charging does not charge the s Pen. As a matter of fact, there is no battery in the Tab 7+ s Pen. It's simply an induction coil that operates from a low power charging strip on the back of the tablet. The Tab 7+ stylus uses a wireless connection to the Tab 7+, where as the Note 20 Ultra uses capacitive touch.
I own both devices and have been unable to cross the stylus' between the two, since they use different technologies.
I have no experience with aftermarket, but if you want full size, I think you might be stuck looking for something like this:
Stylus Capacitive and Resistive Pen Touch Compact Lightweight
2 in 1 Capacitive stylus and resistive hard tip stylus combination. IMPORTANT NOTE: This is NOT a replacement for your phone's original built-in internal stylus. It is for separate use and a generic stylus. It is NOT an S-Pen. Will NOT fit to your phone's internal stylus slot if your phone has...
uzid.com
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ummmm. ... the note 20 spen uses inductive wacom tech like all spens(at least for now). Capacitive stylus are the ones that work on all touch screens(like your finger). My s7+ spen works perfectly fine on my note and vice versa. What you are probably having issue with crossing stylus is on the note and on the s7 you need to remove the pen from it's holder to let the phone/tab know there is an spen it should look for, either that or you got an aftermarket capacitive pen that looks like an s-pen.
to the OP as far as I know you cannot use any other device for charging the s-pen.
jeromekobriger said:
I can confirm that standard wireless charging does not charge the s Pen. As a matter of fact, there is no battery in the Tab 7+ s Pen. It's simply an induction coil that operates from a low power charging strip on the back of the tablet. The Tab 7+ stylus uses a wireless connection to the Tab 7+, where as the Note 20 Ultra uses capacitive touch.
I own both devices and have been unable to cross the stylus' between the two, since they use different technologies.
I have no experience with aftermarket, but if you want full size, I think you might be stuck looking for something like this:
Stylus Capacitive and Resistive Pen Touch Compact Lightweight
2 in 1 Capacitive stylus and resistive hard tip stylus combination. IMPORTANT NOTE: This is NOT a replacement for your phone's original built-in internal stylus. It is for separate use and a generic stylus. It is NOT an S-Pen. Will NOT fit to your phone's internal stylus slot if your phone has...
uzid.com
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I have the Note20 Ultra and the tab S7+ and able to use both pens viceversa. Just make sure you have the option enabled in the spen settings that allows multiple spens. Can use the pen of the tab on the Note while the pen is still inside the phone.
So stuck my s-pen on the fridge and kinda lost it for a month. It was moved by accedenty too the side that normally isn't looked at. Now it will not charge at all.
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So stuck my s-pen on the fridge and kinda lost it for a month. It was moved by accedenty too the side that normally isn't looked at. Now it will not charge at all.
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They do that. Try resetting it and playing with it a couple times. The deep freeze didn't hurt it.
Not sure what reinitalizes it. I didn't use mine for 2 months and it behaved the same way. Wouldn't show or take a charge then after a couple days of playing with it, it started working again. It been fine for over a year now.
Try a reboot. Reset it.
Try a hard reboot. Reset it.
Try clearing the system cache. Reset it.
Try clearing it's data. Reboot
You get the idea... it just wants some wuv
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ummmm. ... the note 20 spen uses inductive wacom tech like all spens(at least for now). Capacitive stylus are the ones that work on all touch screens(like your finger). My s7+ spen works perfectly fine on my note and vice versa. What you are probably having issue with crossing stylus is on the note and on the s7 you need to remove the pen from it's holder to let the phone/tab know there is an spen it should look for, either that or you got an aftermarket capacitive pen that looks like an s-pen.
to the OP as far as I know you cannot use any other device for charging the s-pen.
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Supposedly, you can have multiple S Pens linked to one phone/tablet. I got my Tab S7 to work on my Note 10+ 5G like you said.
The S Pen setting is: Settings -> Advanced features -> S Pen -> Allow multiple S Pens (Let other S Pens write on the screen while your S Pen's inserted into your phone. This may drain your battery.)
Once you toggle that on, restart your phone and it works without you having to take out the S Pen.
I have my old Tab S3 S-pen I use on my note 10+ and now also on the Tab S7+...the Tab S7 pen works on my note 10, did not tried vice versa as the little note 10 pen is just an emergency solution for me.
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anyone know if the galaxy note stylus would work on the amaze? or just another phone in general? or do you think its somehow "programmed" or made to work just with the note. was looking at stylus and every one of them are huge lol, like incipios and others. I think it would be cool to use it for some apps.
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Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe phones/displays that use a stylus utilize a different kind of display, and the note I believe is like dou hybrid or something.
I am pretty sure a stylus will be useless on the amaze...unless the tip was heated? lol
I think stylus screens are based on pressure sensors in the display and the more common ones we use the sensors in the display are heat based...or something.
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Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe phones/displays that use a stylus utilize a different kind of display, and the note I believe is like dou hybrid or something.
I am pretty sure a stylus will be useless on the amaze...unless the tip was heated? lol
I think stylus screens are based on pressure sensors in the display and the more common ones we use the sensors in the display are heat based...or something.
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no, they make capacitive display stylus. look at the new galaxy tab, regular capacitive screen, with a stylus included. also look at the htc flyer, it has a stylus as well. its a special material they use on the tip. I actually have a pair of gloves that have the material that I can use in the winter with a capacitive screen. they just operate different. resistive stylus are used with pressure, and capacitive have a special material at the end that some how activates the screen as your finger would.
http://www.incipio.com/HTC-Amaze-4G-Cases-Accessories/HTC-Amaze-4G-Cases-Accessories.asp go here and youll see some capacitive stylus that are compatible with our phones but they are huge lol. that's why im interested in the notes stylus since its small. I think some apps would be fun with it, like sketchbook, etc.
edit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBpo7USR8I8 this is how it works
What's likely is that the stylus from these devices might work for detecting single touch events - but would not be pressure sensitive, as the phone doesn't have the special digitizer material to create the field that allows passive pressure sensitive pens (ie, look at wacom) to work. So, in other words, why bother?
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What's likely is that the stylus from these devices might work for detecting single touch events - but would not be pressure sensitive, as the phone doesn't have the special digitizer material to create the field that allows passive pressure sensitive pens (ie, look at wacom) to work. So, in other words, why bother?
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try drawing a image or words or anything in general with the sketchbook and then you tell me. some other apps would be more fun/interesting with a stylus imo. also with grease and what not, when texting its okay or just swiping around but when using apps like angry birds it would be more fun to use a stylus I think.
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no, they make capacitive display stylus. look at the new galaxy tab, regular capacitive screen, with a stylus included. also look at the htc flyer, it has a stylus as well. its a special material they use on the tip. I actually have a pair of gloves that have the material that I can use in the winter with a capacitive screen. they just operate different. resistive stylus are used with pressure, and capacitive have a special material at the end that some how activates the screen as your finger would.
(link) go here and youll see some capacitive stylus that are compatible with our phones but they are huge lol. that's why im interested in the notes stylus since its small. I think some apps would be fun with it, like sketchbook, etc.
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This is not right. The galaxy note (and "new galaxy tab"/Galaxy note 10.1) uses an active digitizer similar to what you find in Wacom tablets and old school tablet pcs. The HTC Flyer and Jetstream uses a similar pen (but from a different maker HTC=Ntrig Samsung=Wacom). None of these styluses will work on another device, exept, maybe some windows 7 tablet pcs.
So, no the note s-pen will not work on your Amaze. A capacitive stylus like pogo scketch or the link above, will work just fine on most phones today, but it is hardly any better than a finger. The s-pen, however gives you a lot more presicion. I can fit more handwritten text on a 5.3 note with the s-pen, than on the 9.7 ipad with a capacitive stylus.
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This is not right. The galaxy note (and "new galaxy tab"/Galaxy note 10.1) uses an active digitizer similar to what you find in Wacom tablets and old school tablet pcs. The HTC Flyer and Jetstream uses a similar pen (but from a different maker HTC=Ntrig Samsung=Wacom). None of these styluses will work on another device, exept, maybe some windows 7 tablet pcs.
So, no the note s-pen will not work on your Amaze. A capacitive stylus like pogo scketch or the link above, will work just fine on most phones today, but it is hardly any better than a finger. The s-pen, however gives you a lot more presicion. I can fit more handwritten text on a 5.3 note with the s-pen, than on the 9.7 ipad with a capacitive stylus.
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That is correct, you can immediately tell it is not a capactive stylus by trying to press the capacitive buttons and not getting a response.
Why not just got to Best Buy / ATT and try it out to be sure
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Why not just got to Best Buy / ATT and try it out to be sure
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look up a town called rolla in Missouri and you will see why lol. closest best buy is over a hour away
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This is not right. The galaxy note (and "new galaxy tab"/Galaxy note 10.1) uses an active digitizer similar to what you find in Wacom tablets and old school tablet pcs. The HTC Flyer and Jetstream uses a similar pen (but from a different maker HTC=Ntrig Samsung=Wacom). None of these styluses will work on another device, exept, maybe some windows 7 tablet pcs.
So, no the note s-pen will not work on your Amaze. A capacitive stylus like pogo scketch or the link above, will work just fine on most phones today, but it is hardly any better than a finger. The s-pen, however gives you a lot more presicion. I can fit more handwritten text on a 5.3 note with the s-pen, than on the 9.7 ipad with a capacitive stylus.
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what exactly does it use? that was my main question pretty much, if they would work or not cause I wasn't sure if they were like a regular capacitive stylus or just something custom made. the capacitive stylus are too big to even be called a stylus
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look up a town called rolla in Missouri and you will see why lol. closest best buy is over a hour away
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Dont need to look it up, Im an STL guy myself.
Road trip
Tell you what, I have a BB right next to my work, Ill try and run over there tomorrow and check it out
dude i saw one on cvs, it suppost to work with all touch phones it cost $10 bucks thats why i didnt buy it. but it would be nice to use to play "draw something''
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what exactly does it use? that was my main question pretty much, if they would work or not cause I wasn't sure if they were like a regular capacitive stylus or just something custom made. the capacitive stylus are too big to even be called a stylus
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I think it is called electromagnetic ressonance. When you press down the tip of the s-pen it generates a magnet field or something which is registered by the phone, or something like that. In the first s-pen i had, the tip got stuck, so it would register input even when not touching the screen.
from wikipedia:
Wacom tablets use a patented electromagnetic resonance technology. Since the tablet provides power to the pen through resonant coupling, no battery or cord is required for the pointing device. As a result, there are no batteries inside the pen (or the accompanying puck), which makes them slimmer.
mikeschevelle said:
Dont need to look it up, Im an STL guy myself.
Road trip
Tell you what, I have a BB right next to my work, Ill try and run over there tomorrow and check it out
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haha nice!
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dude i saw one on cvs, it suppost to work with all touch phones it cost $10 bucks thats why i didnt buy it. but it would be nice to use to play "draw something''
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exactly, it would be fun to use with some apps but not everything lol. just like sketchbook or angry birds or draw me. since its hard as hell with your finger
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I think it is called electromagnetic ressonance. When you press down the tip of the s-pen it generates a magnet field or something which is registered by the phone, or something like that. In the first s-pen i had, the tip got stuck, so it would register input even when not touching the screen.
from wikipedia:
Wacom tablets use a patented electromagnetic resonance technology. Since the tablet provides power to the pen through resonant coupling, no battery or cord is required for the pointing device. As a result, there are no batteries inside the pen (or the accompanying puck), which makes them slimmer.
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well then wouldnt it work on all touch screens then? since all capacitive touch screens respond to static/heat, or does it give off a different type? im confused how samsung made the note lol, its interesting
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My Galaxy Note stylus doesn't work on Galaxy S2 or Galaxy Tab 7.7
Not even the input response. I figure they will work minus the pressure sensitivity but i was wrong. You need an active digitizer layer
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My Galaxy Note stylus doesn't work on Galaxy S2 or Galaxy Tab 7.7
Not even the input response. I figure they will work minus the pressure sensitivity but i was wrong. You need an active digitizer layer
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so the note has a special layer made for the stylus? thats cool
stylus for the note didnt work on my amaze
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stylus for the note didnt work on my amaze
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thats a shame, oh well the screen on this phone really isnt that big any ways. i could see using one on the one x or something. i think the new lg vu also has a custom stylus for it hmm
Hello, anybody used Sculpt Mobile Keyboard or the Arc Keyboard on the PRO 12.2? How is it?
What are the differences between keyboards for Android and normal keyboards for Windows? Can I assume that as long as a keyboard is bluetooth, it should work with Android tablets? I suppose keyboards for Android tablets have cut/copy/phase buttons.
I have an old Microsoft Arc wireless keyboard that I used to use for my HTPC that works fine with the Note Pro using its USB dongle plugged into a USB OTG cable. Hotkey combinations like CTRL-C and CTRL-V work just like they do on a Windows machine.
I also have a Logitech Tablet Keyboard that's a standalone unit that opertates on Bluetooth. I cant say that I recommend that one, it's a battery killer whereby with the unit switched off (this is with a hardwired switch mind you) the two AA batteries will die after several weeks unused. Hard to believe I can go a couple of months using my cable/TV remote control every day as opposed to storing that keyboard unused and turned off.
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Do you mean this: http://www.logitech.com/en-us/product/tablet-keyboard-android-win8-rt?crid=26
Besides being a battery killer, how is it compared with the Logitech PRO for 12.2? My tablet is white. It is a bit strange to use a black Logitech PRO case with keyboard. Also, I heard that it is quite heavy compared with the Logitech Tablet Keyboard. Am I right?
Yeah that's essentially the one. I think they made a couple of variants and that is the latest incarnation of it. Mine is the 3.0+ but it looks exactly the same.
I'm stuck trying to decide whether or not to buy an integrated keyboard case. I'm leaning towards not doing so because if I'm going to lug the tablet around in a thick keyboard case I may as well carry my rMBP. I bought the note pro to carry with me practically everywhere I go so turning it into a laptop is NOT on my wishlist. On the other hand I do want a keyboard that I can shove into a suitcase when I travel such that I have somewhat of a laptop replacement once I'm at my destination.
All of that said the difference between the Logitech Tablet Keyboard and the Logitech Pro Keyboard Case boils down to whether or not you always need the keyboard functionality. They both weigh about the same once in a bag, though you save a few ounces on the stand alone keyboard compared to the keyboard case. With the keyboard case you'll have to deal with the keyboard being part of the tablet all of the time and it will undoubtedly be heavier than a plain book cover type case (the Samsung Book Cover Case is a full 0.75 lbs lighter than the Logitech Pro Keyboard Case).
I have the note pro 12 and bought the very light but very good samsung bt keyboaed. It's designation is bkb something or other. It's about $35 on ebay and has many hot keys linked to the np12.2. I also have several by mice but just ordered the samsung action s mouse which i also operates hot key-like on the np12. Carrying the np, keyboard and mouse is featherweight compared to a my old macbook air.
I don't need a keyboard all the time. A lightweight, comfortable keyboard is nice. Somebody mentioned about the Logitech Bluetooth illuminated keyboard K810.
i was looking around for a long time for a keyboard that I didnt have to always use and could have it not be attached to a case or anything. Also the size of the keyboard and how well it worked. I ended up buying the sparin ultra thin bluetooth off amazon on my way to work really quick. I got it a few days ago and it is very very thin and light and the length is about the size of he tablet (a little smaller). it sits perfectly on the rest of my 3 angle case when its all the way up or I can sit far back and use it. he keys are not that rubbery kind and are actually larger size keys , bigger then my laptops buttons. Also I can use the buttons to control the usage of my device and has a mail button that brings up your email and voice search button and even a button that you can press to bring the virtual keyboard back up on the screen or away so you can use either without having to reconnect it everytime. Easy to setup , turn switch on push button to pair bluetooth and thats it. here is the link if your interested and it was only 15 bucks.
amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00GAX7JYQ/ref=redir_mdp_mobile
Hi, I am looking for a lightweight and comfortable keyboard for the PRO 12.2 Some users use the Logitech Bluetooth Illuminated Keyboard K810. How is it compared with the Tablet Keyboard for Windows and Android? Is there any other keyboard that is lighter and comfortable to type than these two? I am also interested in foldable ones.
Tablet keyboard for windows and android
Wedge mobile keyboard
Arc keyboard
Sorry can't post outside links due to restrictions from forum.
I've got the K810. It's very light and 5mm smaller than the tablet itself. (Easy to put in the same sleeve or bag).
I do also on occasion use OTG to connect to a fairly cheap (10 quid) foldable USB keyboard.
I don't own any of the others, so I can't compare.
My tablet keyboard for Windows and android sucks. ..batteries.
The AAA batteries inside will discharge even with the physical power switch turned off. This means that regardless of use I end up with about 6 weeks on a set of 4 and I rarely use the keyboard. It could be that my unit has a faulty power switch though. The radio within the keyboard turns off (keyboard no longer seen by my devices) as does the LEDs when the keyboard is switched off but perhaps there's still a bad connection internally. Thought i'd mention it anyway though.
Other than that it works perfectly fine for me so I've lived with it for the past couple of years.
The reason that I rarely use the keyboard is that I always have both my macbook pro and the note pro with me at home, work or travel so I haven't felt the need to carry the separate keyboard too. I'm sort of stuck in between the decision of whether or not i should bulk up my note pro with a keyboard case thus making it nearly as big as my macbook pro or should I stick with the external keyboard I rarely use LOL. With 90% of what I do with the note pro being browsing and media consumption thus far I haven't dropped money on a keyboard case.
I picked up the AERB IBK-02 keyboard from Amazon. It's fairly comfortable to type on and is just slightly wider than the tablet. It fits nicely in the base of my tablet's case when I have it open for reading. So far, I'm pleased with the performance and comfortabilty of the keyboard. It also has a trackpad on the right side of the keyboard which is a huge plus....Unfortunately it loses connectivity with a regularity my bowels would envy. For the price, it is extremely good. Issues with the trackpad aside, I can't complain about anything else....And I suppose I can just touch the screen, ya know.
I'm going to do a full review of it...After rebooting the tablet my trackpad issues essentially vanished. This keyboard is perfect.
I have been using the Logitech K400 because of the built in mouse pad similar to the above mentioned keyboard.
http://www.logitech.com/en-us/product/wireless-touch-keyboard-k400r?crid=26
I have since discovered there are two updated versions that may suit others needs with the Note Pro even better. One is very similar to the K800 but has a mouse pad and is backlit. It looks like an awesome keyboard but I am not sure a backlit keyboard is best for my portable needs. I guess I can always turn the lights off to conserve energy. It uses the 2.4GHz wireless adapter.
http://www.logitech.com/en-us/product/living-room-keyboard-k830?crid=26
The last one is the K480 which is a bluetooth device with a unique design. It has a slot to hold your phone or a smaller tablet and can sync with up to 3 devices. This doesn't seem like it would hold our 12.2 tablet but for those who already have a stand and just want a keyboard this might work if you want to sync to multiple devices.
http://www.logitech.com/en-us/product/multi-device-keyboard-k480?crid=26
ShadowLea said:
I've got the K810. It's very light and 5mm smaller than the tablet itself. (Easy to put in the same sleeve or bag).
I do also on occasion use OTG to connect to a fairly cheap (10 quid) foldable USB keyboard.
I don't own any of the others, so I can't compare.
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K810 on sale on Amazon got one for $55
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I just bought a note 12.2 but I want a stylus pen with eraser functionality so that I can avoid manually toggling the eraser. I know that it works on Samsung apps, sketchbook and other big name software. However, Amazon's question and answer does not make it very clear if it works on smaller 3rd party apps like Lecture Notes.
Can someone test their stylus eraser and see if it works on Lecture Notes (free trial)?
Here is the stylus:
http://www.amazon.com/Galaxy-Genuin...d=1449214660&sr=8-1&keywords=stylus+note+12.2
Here is the specific app:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.acadoid.lecturenotestrial&hl=en
Yes, it does work on Lecture notes (full version). In settings you can enable button actions.
I don't have your stylus, but I tried with two different pens and both work very well (Lenovo ThinkPad Tablet Pen 4X80F22107 and Wacom Bamboo Smart CS-310)
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Yes, it does work on Lecture notes (full version). In settings you can enable button actions.
I don't have your stylus, but I tried with two different pens and both work very well (Lenovo ThinkPad Tablet Pen 4X80F22107 and Wacom Bamboo Smart CS-310)
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Thanks. I think the programmer needs to program it with the API and the feature is not system wide. I'm very happy about this.
btw: the eraser on the top of the pen will not work (when you flip the pen), at least not with my Lenovo pen
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btw: the eraser on the top of the pen will not work (when you flip the pen), at least not with my Lenovo pen
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So do you erase in lecture notes by clicking the stylus button on the side?
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So do you erase in lecture notes by clicking the stylus button on the side?
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Yes, I think it's qicker anyway
This pen might work with squid.
Such a shame that one note is so crap on Android.
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This pen might work with squid.
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I can confirm this. These pens work excellently with squid (Papyrus). If you additionally buy so-called premium features, you can also use a "true eraser" by pressing the pen button.
And btw: the Lenovo pen is much more pressure sensitive than the Wacom Bamboo.
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I can confirm this. These pens work excellently with squid (Papyrus). If you additionally buy so-called premium features, you can also use a "true eraser" by pressing the pen button.
And btw: the Lenovo pen is much more pressure sensitive than the Wacom Bamboo.
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There are no reviews on the Lenova pen, so I didn't buy it.
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And btw: the Lenovo pen is much more pressure sensitive than the Wacom Bamboo.
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You do realize pressure sensitivity is determined by the digitizer in the tablet, not the pen...
The NotePro (All versions) have a sensitivity of 1024 levels. The only part of the pens that matter in terms of sensitivity is what they support. (A pen that supports, say, 500 levels, will never offer 1024.)
All Wacom pens support at least 1024 levels.
The Lenovo pen also supports 1024 levels.
Both pens have the exact same sensitivity level on this device.
Obviously the Wacom pen is designed specifically for Note devices as both the pen and the sensors are made by Wacom, whereas the Lenovo is not. I can't say if that affects usability, as I haven't tried the Lenovo pen.
Mind you, I have the regular and carbon versions of the Bamboo Stylus Feel for Note. (There are two versions of both the regular and the Carbon Bamboo Feel, (For Note and for Microsoft) and a lot of people bought the wrong one.)
I've been a Wacom (Intuos and Cintiq) user for years, So yea, I'm a bit biased. :laugh: I stuck with the brand I know. (Wacom is the professional brand for digital artists, from amateurs to Hollywood).
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You do realize pressure sensitivity is determined by the digitizer in the tablet, not the pen...
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Obviously you are an expert and your explanation makes sense to me.
But how would you explain, that lines drawn with the lenovo pen are partially thicker than the ones from Bamboo even in same app (Squid) with the same settings and with the same pressure?
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Obviously you are an expert and your explanation makes sense to me.
But how would you explain, that lines drawn with the lenovo pen are partially thicker than the ones from Bamboo even in same app (Squid) with the same settings and with the same pressure?
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Well, I'm not really an expert.:laugh: I've just got a bit of experience with wacom's tech, and an unhealthy habit of wanting to know how everything works. :laugh:
That's actually ridiculously simple once you realize it. There is a difference in the various nibs (the tips), which affect the result when drawing, as well as 'paper'resistance on the screen. I don't know precisely which nibs came with which pen, but they vary in size, material and effect. I think the Bamboo Smart came with two different types of tips, which can be swapped. (That's what that silly piece of metal that looks like a weird pincer is for.)
Also, the driver on the tab is configured for Wacom pens. As such, the result with a non-Wacom pen can be a little lacking in finesse. Then again, thicker isn't always an advantage when you're sketching, but for non-precise tasks a more 'solid' line might be more preferable.
got it
Thanks for useful information, ShadowLea
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I have the regular and carbon versions of the Bamboo Stylus Feel for Note. (There are two versions of both the regular and the Carbon Bamboo Feel, (For Note and for Microsoft) and a lot of people bought the wrong one.)
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Could you tell me what is the exact model of Bamboo Carbon Feel you use, because I bought one that during writing at 45 degrees has an offset of about 1 ~ 2 mm.
Thanks, :good:
marcio.mg said:
Could you tell me what is the exact model of Bamboo Carbon Feel you use, because I bought one that during writing at 45 degrees has an offset of about 1 ~ 2 mm.
Thanks, :good:
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I've got the CS-400. There is only one version of the Carbon, as far as I'm aware.
It did have an offset at the beginning, had to recalibrate it. Mind you, it will always have an offset when held at an angle. The sensors work in a straight line. 1mm is fairly normal at 45º. (Also, that way you can see what you're drawing.)
The guide as to how to do that is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=54772260&postcount=18
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ShadowLea said:
There's two ways to go about this. The 'Viking equivalent of try this first' and the 'If that doesn't work, let's try the more technical one.'
Firstly, try giving it a good solid whack on the edge of a table. As ridiculous as that sounds (and makes you look), this does usually have an effect. Often, the nib isn't properly inserted, or sits at just the wrong angle. Brute force tends to work.
If that doesn't help, it's time for the proper technical solution. This works on pretty much any magnetic stylus with a button, including the Spen.
Requirements:
- A small flat screwdriver
- A non-cluttered room (preferably without carpets)
- The pen
- The tablet
Step 1) Carefully use the small screwdriver to pop off the button. You should be able to insert it along the side in the middle and then slide it towards the back end (where the fastener isunder the button).
The thing jumps, so be careful! (Hence the clean, carpet free room. I had to use a vacuum cleaner to recover mine once..) If the screwdriver doesn't work, try a needle or a razor (mind your fingers!).
Step 2) With the lid off, you'll see two dials.
The one closest to the tip of the pen adjusts the sensitivity.
The one closest to the cap adjusts the offset. This is the one we'll need to fix this issue. (Might as well tweak both whilst you're at it)
Carefully make tiny adjustments (and I mean really tiny) to these dials. Test it on the tab every time, you don't need to re-attach the button to test it. They go both ways, so play with it 'till you're satisfied with the result. (On my previous one I had to turn it a whole 85º, on my new one only 5º.)
Step 3) If you're happy with the result, click the button back on. It only fits one way, and needs to be inserted very much like a battery: one side first. (The side pointing towards the cap)
That's it
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I have that samsung spen with eraser and use it every day with LectureNotes. The eraser and side button both work beautifully with LectureNotes. Actually, LN allows you to customize the behavior of the eraser and the side button independently.
The stock s-pen has pretty decent eraser functionality via the button on the side in some apps like Squid. Squid really is fantastic -- I've used it for class notes for more than a year and a half now.
I have this stylus and the eraser works on Squid and LectureNotes
Hi @All,
unfortunately there is no attachable keyboard cover for the S9 yet like there was/is for the S8. I know the camera and fingerprint scanner are different. But would it work (or did someone maybe know someone) who actually tried it and modified the keyboard cover so it works with the S9...
Kind regards
A.
Samsung EJ-CG950BBEGDE Keyboard Cover
bionicbee2000 said:
Hi @All,
unfortunately there is no attachable keyboard cover for the S9 yet like there was/is for the S8. I know the camera and fingerprint scanner are different. But would it work (or did someone maybe know someone) who actually tried it and modified the keyboard cover so it works with the S9...
Kind regards
A.
Samsung EJ-CG950BBEGDE Keyboard Cover
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Would be interesting to know.
Remember that the cover-part has a (nfc?) chip and a magnet (near the power key). And also the keyboard part has a tiny magnet in the lower left.
I took one for the S6 Edge apart, and I can see that the S8 is quite similar. See this
So it is NOT just a matter of cutting a larger hole in the cover, the phablet has to be prepared for it with the suitable strategically placed magnetic sensors to detect that it is there.
For fun I have tried to use some of the non S8-variants on the S8, and could get an S8 back to react with the print part from the S6 Edge.
I also tried some of the other backs, but could not get them to work with the S8 (not even with the S8 keyboard)
But as it seems they have stopped production for Note 8 and S8, I think they unfortunately are abandoning the whole idea, so we should be damn lucky if the S9 got the correct sensors AND even in the same place as on S8
ADD:
Just had a look at the ifixit tear downs of the S8- and S9-, and it does not look promising for a total fit....
On the S8, the magnet at the back has its centre approximately 32mm from the top, and 10mm from the power-switch side.
So if I can measure correctly, the magnetic switch must be the tiny little component mounted north of the square chip with "C3 559 X791" (north of the orange square) here, but the S9 got no chip at that location AFAICS from this.
BUT the S9 does have a similar looking component closer to the vibrator, so it MIGHT be prepared for a cover...
The magnet on the key-part is about 16mm from the bottom and 13mm from the volume rocker side. Just north of the tip of the 3.5mm plug. And there IS a similar small component on the other side of the small print on both the S8- and S9-...
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Apart from the above add, note that surprisingly the keyboard with an S8 ALSO works both in Aeroplane mode and with NFC turned off, so the communication with the case must be a dedicated circuitry.
So that has to be there for the S9 too...
ADD: I just verified that the chip is on a small plate, and thus NOT with any antenna in the back plate (updated blog post linked above), so it SHOULD be possible to move that to another location, if the circuitry is placed elsewhere on the S9-
I just tried the s8 keyboard and I could put it on my s9 (snapdragon). It was a very tight and unstable fit, but when I did get it to click the phone recognized it and resized the screen accordingly. Unfortunately the keyboard below wasnt alugned with the buttons, and there was mostly no response. When it did respond I got a key registered from the row below and to the side, e.g. when pressing 't' it would sometimes register as 'f'. Any ideas on how to get this to work properly?
alh84001 said:
I just tried the s8 keyboard and I could put it on my s9 (snapdragon). It was a very tight and unstable fit, but when I did get it to click the phone recognized it and resized the screen accordingly. Unfortunately the keyboard below wasnt alugned with the buttons, and there was mostly no response. When it did respond I got a key registered from the row below and to the side, e.g. when pressing 't' it would sometimes register as 'f'. Any ideas on how to get this to work properly?
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Very interesting that it works that much! Thanks for the info! This at the least proves that the a S9 was designed for a keyboard.
To bad about the slight misalignment though. Do you see the same displacement in all columns? I mean does a W also give an A, and a P an L? (when it does anything)
You COULD try to take the print out and see if a slight move would fix it. But there is no guarantee, as they could have changed the spacing in either direction too (perhaps squeezed in an extra column)
Why SamSung doesn't make for S9?
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Very interesting that it works that much! Thanks for the info! This at the least proves that the a S9 was designed for a keyboard.
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However, the Samsung Keyboard app, which is responsible for software support of the cover keyboard, does not have a separate kb-cover's layout for the S9 device. This app has layouts for S6, S7, S8, etc. Note 8 is the latest model supported.
Keyboard cover working in exactly the same way as the smart covers. The chip on the back of the case tells the phone the accessory ID, and the magnet on the front signals about the event - the keyboard is connected or the smart cover is closed.
This means that any Samsung smartphone that has version 3 of the Samsung Keyboard app (versions 4 and 5 no longer support cover keyboards) and can detect Samsung accessories, will work with cover keyboards, even those intended for older models. The only problem is shape of the case, I mean geometrical parameters.
1) You connect the keyboard
2) The phone recognize it via back chip + magnet
3) Samsung Keyboard app began to receive signals from it and process them
So no, most likely S9 was not designed for the separate keyboard, but this phone supports keyboard covers from older models.
I have several cover keyboards for S6, S7, S8. I'm thinking of adapting one of them for Note 8 (because it's impossible to find an official overlay keyboard for it!) or another Samsung phone, such as S9 + or Note 9, for which such an accessory was not released at all. Here is my plan:
1) Take a standard protective back cover, glue the chip from the old keyboard cover to it, cut two grooves to snap the front piece with keyboard into place.
2) (most difficult part for me) Design and 3D print a new front part of the keyboard case. Extract the keyboard module and magnet from the old keyboard cover, and fit it into the 3D printed front part.
3) Modify and rebuild the Samsung Keyboard APK to change the XML layout in order to match it the physical layout of the buttons. I may need to get root access to install a modified application, or I may not - IDK, need to try.
I think this should work. At least it looks like it should work.
Unfortunately, I don't have much time for this activity, so I don't know when I'll do it. But maybe it will help someone in his research. Good luck!