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Hello everybody
I have been reading on this forum for some time now, and I understand the update process, including unlocking, its all great.
However, Im at a loss - I have no idea what I have to gain from upgrading my ROM.
I currently have an untouched T-Mobile Vario II with bootloader 1.04, hardware vesion (?) 634.
My friend has just recieved his Vario II, v646.
Everyones talking about using ROMs from other providers, but I've yet to read anything substantial about whats to be gained from switching or upgrading ROMs.
What CAN actually be changed by changing ROMs? For example, T-Mobile have been kind enough to bundle my device with a free registered version of 'Spb GPRS Monitor' - it monitors GPRS/3G and battery power, plus providing a useful bar on the today screen. it's very useful and I wouldn't want to lose it should I decide to gamble on a ROM update that provides nothing nearly as useful.
I have identified several short comings of my devide, not the least of which is the fact that it intermittantly skips every 30+ seconds when playing music through my stereo bluetooth earphones. I imagine that some kind of update will be required to fix this, as it seems to be a problem for only certain version of the device - the Vario II being the obvious.
I have also decided that I would like to try other graphic themes. Before I have a go at making my own I thought it might be nice to try some existing ones...
There are lots of hardware/radio versions published, but unless I've missed it theres very little talk about what the ROMs provide.
Cheers very much for all your help thus far, and in advance for anything else you might be able to help me with!
lets make this a simple one.. if you are happy with the device the way it is then there is nothing to change... kinda like the old saying, "If it aint broke then dont fix it"
If there are things you are looking to change then maybe post your problems here and we can tell you if you would benefit from changing roms!
I have the universal and purchased the hermes for size and HSDPA / UMTS improvements.
The universal was upgraded and hacked many times.
However, I cant see an upgrade rom hack that is available at all here for the hermes yet.
Can anybody confirm a WWE 3.x Rom upgrade being available? Mine is Imate, but I am not particularly loyal in any way, but would like more reliable Push Email, and the speed improvements that occur with 3.x
To the moderator, you cant really say if it aint broke dont fix it, cause quite often, you dont know if it is broken until you start to fix something, and you dont know if something is faster, better, more efficient, more effective, or provides improvements in functionality until a question is asked.
Its a bit like me taking my car to a mechanic, they always ask if everything is fine, it always is, but they always call me up and tell me that this isnt working, this needs fixing, and this is about to broke... You can triple the cost if you would like us to fix it.
You didnt know until somebody points out the improvements and benefits.
So, I would like the initial question answered as well, if somebody is prepared to give an explanation and some guidance.
Here's some upgrading facts for you:
There is no AKU 3.x ROM available for the Hermes yet.
Due to a new encryption strategy, ROMS take 25 minutes to flash. Any interruptions during this time may brick your device.
Also due to the above encryption strategy, we are not yet able to cook our own custom ROMS for the Hermes.
Boot Loader v1.04 which shipped with most of the early ROMs contains a bug which allows easy bypassing of CID lock. However subsequent bootloaders fix this problem and will CID lock you to your original vendor. The only crossgrade solution is to first downgrade to a BL1.04 version of your vendor's ROM then exploit the bug to load another. Device owners without a 1.04BL version of their ROM have consequently been unable to crossgrade/unlock their Hermes.
There is a bootleg solution that will flash BL1.04 on any Hermes while leaving the rest of the ROM untouched. However, it isn't available here. In fact the original owner of it's copyrighted code actively pursues anybody who posts this solution on the internet. Consequently, it's worldwide availability is constantly changing
There is a CID/SIM unlock solution by pof that is posted here which works with the 1.04 Bootloader only
The more current ROMS for the DoPod, TyTN and 8525 contain measured performance improvements
The most current radio rom (v1.20) improves battery performance
Most of the newer roms fix a media player audio stutter bug
Getting a combination of the most current radio ROM and the most current device ROM involves 40-60 minutes of flashing time and the use of the bootleg BL1.04 solution described above.
HTH!
Thanks sleuth255 for taking the time to answer comprehensively.
I am really only interested in upgrading to 3.x and will wait and see how things transpire. There was major benefits to the universal upgrade to 3.x however, the hermes doesnt appear to suffer the speed issues of the universal and I am so far very happy with the device.
jubbbird said:
Hello everybody
I have identified several short comings of my devide, not the least of which is the fact that it intermittantly skips every 30+ seconds when playing music through my stereo bluetooth earphones. I imagine that some kind of update will be required to fix this, as it seems to be a problem for only certain version of the device - the Vario II being the obvious.
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I tested all the WWE ROM here (not the one with 1.09 bootloader, because since today is a one way only road, no way to flash back the original ROM)
About music skip: not sure if upgrade will solve it (since today) but there is a good patch here. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=284974
Other well known problems (lost storage card in windows media player, overnight and in-call freeze, poor efficiency (short battery life in UMTS coverage, slow performances if compared to processor speed promise, ...) are still unsolved
I will suggest: play if you want, but having in mind that HERMES ROM flashing today is just for play, have a look, testing, not for really solving anything
Supercid ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=282073 ) your device to play with ROMs, now, because you have the 1.04 bootloader version. Once SUPERCIDed you can play with all ROM
Well thats my primary issue at the moment and it sounds a lot like your fix may work for me.
I am using an original ROM im guessing, with bootloader 1.04 so all the doors are open for me. I'm in nor rush, strictly speaking, because I love this device and it generally works wonders for me. I listen to music for long periods of time once in a while (long car journeys alone with my SE ds970 - plugs the ears well providing awsome noise removal from external sources, can't even hear the engine on my crappy Vauxhall Corsa with those in...) but it is during those periods that I suffer with the skipping. fixing it will be wonderful.
I have a question about your fix though, but I worry that having read the first few pages of your other thread, and the last few, I may have missed the answer so I apologise if I'm asking questions you have already answered - but I remember reading the original thread a while ago from the guy who discovered the Task Manager app that fixed the issue and he mentioned that because the software seems to prevent any CPU speed scaling (not sure if thats actually what its doing) he observed that CPU battery consumption while running that specific app + audio decreased noticably. Is this still an issue with your patch? I plan to purchase a working in-car power adapter so it won't really be a problem, but im curious
I'm gonna take my time with regards to ROM upgrades because as has been mentioned above - I have only a few issues which after reading this thread now seem to be standing issues which won't be fixed whatever I decide to do right now. Ultimately, I have the stuff I detailed above adn thus far no steadfast information about which ROMs are good for what. I don't even know anything about this 3.x business noted above...
What I'd like to know now, before I try your fix, is - if i were to install a TyTn ROM (which right now Im assuming is an original HTC TyTn ROM as oposed to a yet-to-be-released T-Mobile ROM...?) will that effectively brand it back to HTC, wipe the onboard flash, give me the original TyTn green theme, remove all the software and settings T-Mobile gave me (they were kind enough to give me a licensed copy of Spb GPRS Monitor which is quite an advantage for me - my friend has a more recent T-Mobile Vario II and they seem to have retracted the offer ... ) and leave me at square one with any fixes/improvements/new-issues that ROM provides?
I also seem to remember reading that because as yet T-Mobile have not released an original ROM, changing now is a one way trip.
I think what I need is for someone to set me in the right direction from the perspective of a early Vario II user. I really enjoy my gadgets, and the best thing about them is "fixing things that aint broke" I love upgrading and trying to squeeze it for all its worth. Better yet, updating my device and gloating to those who have no idea what that means! It's all good...
Anyway, cheers very much for your help thus far - greatly appreciated.
Hi all!
I'm picking up a hopefully gently used Touch Pro tomorrow to replace my HTC Mogul. Very excited to have some extra RAM to work with, as well as the capability to try out all of these great ROMs.
As I have no experience with the Touch Pro, I am hoping you all can tell me what Radio and SPL I will need to begin my journey, and hopefully where to find them!
If you can offer any additional advice about this phone, any tips, tweaks, or general recommendations, I'd be very appreciative.
Thanks in advance!
I forgot to add that I'm going to be on the Sprint network!
Anyone?
I found the unlocking guide above which includes info on obtaining a HardSPL version. I hope this is the best one available.
I have not been able to find any information about updating the radio of the device so it works best with Sprint.
Hopefully someone can shed more light on this for me.
xiton said:
Anyone?
I found the unlocking guide above which includes info on obtaining a HardSPL version. I hope this is the best one available.
I have not been able to find any information about updating the radio of the device so it works best with Sprint.
Hopefully someone can shed more light on this for me.
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You should have everything you need on my guide. As far as radio, what you could do is after unlocking the device, flash a Sprint stock rom (the latest available), which will likely have the latest radio that Sprint released as well. Once you have flashed this package, simply flash another rom (whichever one you like) on top. The radio will remain the same and only your rom will change. Hope this helps.
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You should have everything you need on my guide. As far as radio, what you could do is after unlocking the device, flash a Sprint stock rom (the latest available), which will likely have the latest radio that Sprint released as well. Once you have flashed this package, simply flash another rom (whichever one you like) on top. The radio will remain the same and only your rom will change. Hope this helps.
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Thanks for the reply. I was able to find more for our device on another popular forum. It seems that XDA has more of a GSM focus for the Touch Pro. I appreciate your guide as it has helped me expand my knowledge of the device. I feel like I'm all set now.
I did the same thing a few months ago. There is everything you could ever need to unlock and flash to what ever rom you want. After flashing just about every rom here, my problem is that I want to combine about 3 different roms to make the one I want, The only problem is I have no idea how to use a kitchen or build a rom hahahaha.
Tony
YO MAN!!!
Glad you were able to find everything you needed. Holler if you need anything else, we here and over at PPCG are always ready to help someone else... Just remember, there will always be nOObs out there and it never hurts to share the knowledge you have received.
Take care man.
EDIT 1: To the post above mine, try PPCKITCHEN.org... if you are not sure how to cook a rom, this kitchen is made for people with little to no experience... Experiment with it, build your own rom with your own options. Just make sure you do the update first...(it takes forever for the update to complete.) There are also other kitchens out there, but this is the one I first started out with. (Sorry for advertising other sites...)
mapaz04 said:
Glad you were able to find everything you needed. Holler if you need anything else, we here and over at PPCG are always ready to help someone else... Just remember, there will always be nOObs out there and it never hurts to share the knowledge you have received.
Take care man.
EDIT 1: To the post above mine, try PPCKITCHEN.org... if you are not sure how to cook a rom, this kitchen is made for people with little to no experience... Experiment with it, build your own rom with your own options. Just make sure you do the update first...(it takes forever for the update to complete.) There are also other kitchens out there, but this is the one I first started out with. (Sorry for advertising other sites...)
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There are a LOT of issues with the rom kitchen for the Herman in PPCK. A lot of reports of roms simply getting stuck at the initial boot-screen. You can try Ervius or one of the newer Visual Kitchens. Good luck!
xiton said:
Thanks for the reply. I was able to find more for our device on another popular forum. It seems that XDA has more of a GSM focus for the Touch Pro. I appreciate your guide as it has helped me expand my knowledge of the device. I feel like I'm all set now.
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the pro is a good phone as long as you have a good rom.
i am currently using the new xxxRootRom which can be found on the ppcgeeks.com forums. i have tested about 6 - 8 different roms so far and found this one to be very stable and snappy.
maybe try a few so you can compare.
only thing i would recommend is to change the pagepool on the xxxrootrom because for some reason it was set to 6. change the value to 0 and you will be very happy with it.
hope that help.
New to Touch Pro (former Mogul User) - Many Issues - Verizon
I just got a new Touch Pro from Asurion as an insurance replacement to XV6800. I am not new to these forums and have, over the years, applied many hacks and flashed many ROMS to my Mogul.
I'm currently using the stock ROM from Vzn (full device details in my sig) but I'm experiencing too many issues to address in a single post perhaps, and I researched and tried many solutions for hours. My biggest issue is Bluetooth related.
I am using the Bluespoon Spider stereo headset which worked great on Mogul. On TP I cannot get any settings to not cause skips and lags on locally stored music playback. I use both Adv Config 3.3 and Total Commander to adjust bitpool Min/Max bitpool. sample rate, & audio gateway settings. The best I've gotten is clear, mostly uninterupted music with the TP sitting in my lap, BUT if I turn my head to the right (the AVRP controls are in the right earpiece) I get serious skips & lags. I used to go about 100 ft clearsight from my Mogul before experiencing drops! Now with TP a matter of inches and my own head blocks the signal?
Anyone else experince this issue? What are you best results with BT seeings? I remember dumping M$ Bluetooth Stack for Widcomm's on Mogul and that made all the difference - can I / should swap out stacks on the TP? My headset won't even properly coonect, I must continually choose "set as wireless stereo" each time I turn on BT.
As for players, Ive used WMP, HTC player and S2P all with the same poor results. I hate that with TouchFlo 3D off, WMP insists on opening and assuming control of AVRP (play/pause/next) features. I tried one hack to break that and it nearly bricked my phone and it caused my SD card to become unreadable AND unformattable. I'll address that in the proper forum
I was so psyched about getting the Touch Pro, but I think I'm gonna have to cook the pants of the stock ROM. Any help with my bluetooth issue woud be greatly appreciated.
Hi,
I have tried the official roms, villainrom 12 (excellent!) and cronos 2.1.3 (also excellent!). All have the horrible bluetooth problem of skips in the music, then a speed up/slow down that results in pitch changes.
I saw that Darchdroid got it fixed in the CDMA version and wondered if there are any roms for the GSM version that have it fixed too? Just in case I missed it!
Thanks
nobody in this forum seems to know how to fix it. I've asked but nobody knows, i believe the only sense rom that i never had the skipping was behnaam's legend port.
I am not experiencing this with VillainROM 12. Didn't have it with CyanogenMOD by Elemag either...
none of the Aosp based roms have this problem it seems to be only sense related. I've had this problem with villain,cronos,chocolateeclair,etc and nobody had any idea when i asked the same question. I actually am going to try to move the bluetooth firmware and files from the legend rom i mentioned above into another newer sense rom I just have to read up on resigning the zip, I'm a super noob to all that is linux.
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ggrammer said:
nobody in this forum seems to know how to fix it. I've asked but nobody knows, i believe the only sense rom that i never had the skipping was behnaam's legend port.
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Thanks, although I have also tried Cronos 2.2 (Froyo) that doesn't have sense and it still did the pitch/speed change.
kosmiq said:
I am not experiencing this with VillainROM 12. Didn't have it with CyanogenMOD by Elemag either...
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Can I ask what car head unit or bluetooth headset you were using? It definitely does it with my Sony BT2600 car unit and both Cronos & Villainrom.
ggrammer said:
none of the Aosp based roms have this problem it seems to be only sense related. I've had this problem with villain,cronos,chocolateeclair,etc and nobody had any idea when i asked the same question. I actually am going to try to move the bluetooth firmware and files from the legend rom i mentioned above into another newer sense rom I just have to read up on resigning the zip, I'm a super noob to all that is linux.
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Could you let me know an AOSP rom to try that you know it works in please? - although I really like sense, I hate this issue and could live without it to get it fixed.
I'm pretty much a noob at this too but I'll help as much as I can!
like kosmiq mentioned Elemag's CMH rom doesn't seem to have this issue (I've used this rom alot and I have a 2010 Mazda3 and the bluetooth in the mazda is wonky at best and this rom works perfectly with it). As far as cronos froyo I haven't tried the bluetooth in that yet in my car but that is still an alpha development so if you need something more stable and complete then stay away from it, It is a great rom and the one I am running now but I am probably going to flash over to Maxisma's newest legend+WWE combo rom.
Good to see Maxisma back.
I am about to flash this ROM
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1312201
I'm wondering which radios will work with this. I'm new to rooting/flashing, fyi. I've been studying immensely.
The reason I'm wanting to flash a new rom is because I'm running cyano 7.1.1 and my bluetooth piece will no longer connect to my phone. Would you folks recommend I flash a new rom? Or only new radios?
The current radios I have are: 1.48.00.0817r AND 0.01.78.0802w_3.
ALSO, if I may ask, what is the difference between RUU and Radios? How are the two linked?
Thank you very much.
Radios really aren't rom specific. more like whatever works best on your phone.. sometimes updating to a radio that works or fixes someone else's problem isn't necessarily going to fix someone else's . If that makes sense.. I honestly haven't changed radios since I first rooted in 2011..
Really what works great for one person might not work great for you. Most you can do is just try different radios over s few days and come up with your own conclusions of what worked better on your phone.
reestipt reactions.
RUU = rom upgrade utility. Basically usually the stock roms from HTC.
The radio usually affects signal quality and speed.
any hope of getting FM radio support on roms (I'm mainly using cyanogenmod, usually sportsstar's). I've tried the port of the apk for the fm radio (wouldn't run) and some spirit radio apk (loud static all channels). Thanks.
I'm using spirit and it works fine. You do need to have a headset plugged in though for an antenna
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yeah. ok thanks, I guess I will try again.
your welcome
reebokhcfr said:
yeah. ok thanks, I guess I will try again.
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Are you using the feb 3rd beta version of spirit?
The stock FM radio is probably going to need to be rebuilt to make it work. Or there is just some strange file that is missing or not configured right.
chevycowboyusa said:
Are you using the feb 3rd beta version of spirit?
The stock FM radio is probably going to need to be rebuilt to make it work. Or there is just some strange file that is missing or not configured right.
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Sense Apps do not work on AOSP roms. And can't be made to work...
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dcacklam said:
Sense Apps do not work on AOSP roms. And can't be made to work...
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Hi Dave! Thanks for the response
I thought there was an FM radio app in the CM Builds??
There are people using Spirit on CM10 (other devices) and I have got Spirit working on Sense 4 (even though the built in one doesn't work)
I have tried my darndest to get Spirit radio to work. All I get is white noise.
What am I missing or not configured? I did search the site, but wasn't able to
find the answer.
Thanks.
mgp53 said:
I have tried my darndest to get Spirit radio to work. All I get is white noise.
What am I missing or not configured? I did search the site, but wasn't able to
find the answer.
Thanks.
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I couldn't get it to work either on the PacMan rom
I just flashed SpeedRom 9.0 Beta 1 and the FM Radio app works because SpeedROM is still a sense based ROM but looks like JellyBean.
Viper Radio
chevycowboyusa said:
I'm using spirit and it works fine. You do need to have a headset plugged in though for an antenna
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I have used viper from version 1.6.6, 1.7.0.1 and 1.7.0.2, the fm radio never worked. even when i used spirit FM it only just make noise as if no station is working.
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I have used viper from version 1.6.6, 1.7.0.1 and 1.7.0.2, the fm radio never worked. even when i used spirit FM it only just make noise as if no station is working.
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That's strange. Where are you located?
I'm in California.
Not much proof, but this is it working.
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chevycowboyusa said:
That's strange. Where are you located?
I'm in California.
Not much proof, but this is it working.
Sent from my HTC_Amaze_4G using xda app-developers app
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I have the same issue with Sportsstar's CM10.1. Sprit FM just gives me static (though I can occasionally hear the slightest bit of an actual station). I think I read in his thread that radio firmware is missing from CM10.1. Is that something one can flash after the fact?
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JimDandy68 said:
I have the same issue with Sportsstar's CM10.1. Sprit FM just gives me static (though I can occasionally hear the slightest bit of an actual station). I think I read in his thread that radio firmware is missing from CM10.1. Is that something one can flash after the fact?
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There is a difference Between the Radio firmware for the hardware (flashed thru hboot) and possibly radio drivers in the ROM.
You can flash the ICS Radio update, link in my Viper thread or ARHD thread, that will update you to the most recent radio "Firmware"
You do need to have an antenna (wired headset) and you have to manually tune the radio station.
I'll test it on CM10.1 later this weekend and I'll let you know what I can figure out!
chevycowboyusa said:
There is a difference Between the Radio firmware for the hardware (flashed thru hboot) and possibly radio drivers in the ROM.
You can flash the ICS Radio update, link in my Viper thread or ARHD thread, that will update you to the most recent radio "Firmware"
You do need to have an antenna (wired headset) and you have to manually tune the radio station.
I'll test it on CM10.1 later this weekend and I'll let you know what I can figure out!
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Thanks, Chevy
I can't find the reference I was talking about, but here's a reference to missing drivers: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2010901
And if this is what you're talking about for a radio update - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=42317972&highlight=radio+update#post42317972 - that matches my current baseband version.
FM radio works on ICS ROMs, like ARHD and SpeedRom, I know. I also know I need a headset attached - only way it ever worked. I've seen other threads about Spirit FM just producing static, so I don't know if it's that app and this device. Anyway, thanks for whatever you can figure out. My thought was that flashing anything ICS on JB wouldn't work, but I don't know.
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Thanks, Chevy
I can't find the reference I was talking about, but here's a reference to missing drivers: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2010901
And if this is what you're talking about for a radio update - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=42317972&highlight=radio+update#post42317972 - that matches my current baseband version.
FM radio works on ICS ROMs, like ARHD and SpeedRom, I know. I also know I need a headset attached - only way it ever worked. I've seen other threads about Spirit FM just producing static, so I don't know if it's that app and this device. Anyway, thanks for whatever you can figure out. My thought was that flashing anything ICS on JB wouldn't work, but I don't know.
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Just want to ask again on this thread, has anyone ever gotten Spirit FM or another FM radio apk to work on a JB ROM (non-sense-based)? Chevy mentioned the Spirit FM 3rd beta, but not sure whether he was talking about having it work on a JB ROM or on Viper. ICS ROMs mostly have the stock radio app working, so not an issue there.
Thanks.
There is code in the CM base sources allowing for radio apps like spirit FM, now whether the devs working on it here have enabled it or gone through the task of debugging to ensure it works is a different story. Tytung has it working well in his CM ROMs for the HD2. I purchased it (spirit) to use on his ROMs so I do know it can work with CM if the developer chooses to. Frankly, for me this capability isn't as important as resolving the other outstanding issues which are keeping JellyBean from being fully functional and truly stable on our devices.
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There is code in the CM base sources allowing for radio apps like spirit FM, now whether the devs working on it here have enabled it or gone through the task of debugging to ensure it works is a different story. Tytung has it working well in his CM ROMs for the HD2. I purchased it (spirit) to use on his ROMs so I do know it can work with CM if the developer chooses to. Frankly, for me this capability isn't as important as resolving the other outstanding issues which are keeping JellyBean from being fully functional and truly stable on our devices.
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Yeah, I'm really just trying to find out if anyone has gotten something working on the Amaze, not any other device. For me, the showstoppers on CM10.1 were uncontrolled in-call volume (evidently working in Evervolv), audio drop-outs when listening to music, and lack of FM radio. Otherwise, it seemed really solid. I'm kinda tired of laggy ICS ROMS, but everything works.
Thanks
JimDandy68 said:
Yeah, I'm really just trying to find out if anyone has gotten something working on the Amaze, not any other device. For me, the showstoppers on CM10.1 were uncontrolled in-call volume (evidently working in Evervolv), audio drop-outs when listening to music, and lack of FM radio. Otherwise, it seemed really solid. I'm kinda tired of laggy ICS ROMS, but everything works.
Thanks
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I know what you're talking about. I think many here, myself included, wish that development was further along. Frankly, I find it sad and ironic that my old HD2, which was a Windows phone, has had fully functional usable stable Jellybean ROMs for a well over a year and it never had any sources released to develop from.
The sad truth is that the Amaze is a great device that wasn't marketed well, so few units were sold. Too few at least for it to have developed a devoted loyal following. If you follow the threads you see that there was never a large volume of development for it and that most of the early adopters have long since moved on to other devices. I'm just glad that we're now experiencing a second wave with new folks stepping up and trying.
I'm optimistic that the issues currently afflicting these builds can be resolved and that our Amazes will get a new lease on life. We just need to have a bit more patience, they're getting closer to nailing it. Once one gets it right the others will learn and use in their development. Then we'll have all kinds of jellybean and KitKat flavors to choose from.
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I'm optimistic that the issues currently afflicting these builds can be resolved and that our Amazes will get a new lease on life. We just need to have a bit more patience, they're getting closer to nailing it. Once one gets it right the others will learn and use in their development. Then we'll have all kinds of jellybean and KitKat flavors to choose from.
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Hope your optimism proves right. It's amazing (no pun intended) that anyone spends there time doing this kind of dev work at all. Pretty sure I'll never buy another HTC device, too.
JimDandy68 said:
Hope your optimism proves right. It's amazing (no pun intended) that anyone spends there time doing this kind of dev work at all. Pretty sure I'll never buy another HTC device, too.
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I wouldn't be so down on HTC. They may not have been the most supportive manufacturer when it comes to outside development, but they've also produced some of the most groundbreaking innovative products. They're in financial trouble now, as their market share has eroded, and haven't had a breakout device in some time. They realize this and have begun making incremental improvements within the development community in an attempt to improve it's perception. The thing is who are you going to jump ship to? Samsung is already undermining android by developing Its own market place for apps that can only run on their devices and has announced It's developing its own proprietary OS. Since they're the biggest player in this device market, they could easily splinter Android and force other manufacturers to do the same to compete.
The point is, if there's one thing I've learned from my 50 years on this planet is to never say never about anything.
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The point is, if there's one thing I've learned from my 50 years on this planet is to never say never about anything.
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Point taken. I'm 45 and evidently haven't learned anything. :cyclops:
Time to go back to a landline.