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Hi,
I've been noticing that my Hero has been gulping battery down VERY fast.
In general, the battery lasts 7-8 hrs, which is not acceptable (I'm out for 12+ hrs).
My usage is not heavy. Wifi, Bluetooth and GPS are rarely, if ever, on.
I do read some news and surf the web a little but only for 2-3 of those 7-8 hrs.
Is my battery life normal?
I've been reading people achieving 12+ hours with their stock battery...
2 or 3 hours websurfing is very heavy on the battery, much more so than phone calls. One of the biggest drains is the screen and you having it on for 2 - 3 hours is going to drain the battery I guess
Seems very poor, much poorer than my iDevice that I use more frequently.
Today, after flashing the 2.1 ROM, it has gotten worse.
Battery's down to 40% in 6 hours, and Battery Usage shows 50% phone idle, 50% cell standby.
I've not even touched the phone since unplugging it 6 hours ago ;S
Is it possible I've a defective battery?
If your battery is down to 40% after 6 hours of it being idle (no screen but switched on) then either you have some power hungry app(s) running in the background or the battery is defective.
At the moment my battery is showing 40%. It was last charged about 40 hours ago, and I have had it switched on the whole time with some light use, picking up emails in the background and occassionally switching the screen on.
I ran task killer and sync was off.
One thing I didn't do was charge it for 10-13 hours straight on first charge; I just unplugged it when the led turned green in ~4 hours (impatient...).
Could this have affected battery life?
Nope - when the LED is green it is fully charged. No minimum charge times suggested in the manual.
peterc10 said:
At the moment my battery is showing 40%. It was last charged about 40 hours ago, and I have had it switched on the whole time with some light use, picking up emails in the background and occassionally switching the screen on.
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That is amazing battery life, I never get more than 24 hours with similar use... what ROM and radio are you using Peter? Also, where are you and what network are you on?
I am in UK on Orange, and have standard Orange ROM and Radio - not the latest one but the one they had before 2.73.61.5.
I have read lots of complaints about battery life, but I think mine is fine for a smartphone. I am a relatively light user of a phone - don't do lots of surfing or watching videos. A few phone calls, very few texts, checking emails and listening to some music is all I normally do with it. The other thing I do use it for is I always have the sat nav on while I am driving, but in that case it is plugged into my Brodit mount and charging from the car.
This latest spell may have been helped because I have not been out over those 40 hours - spent the weekend at home, which means that the Hero has been logged into wifi rather than trying to use mobile data. And not used it to make calls or texts or used the music player.
I notice keep Internet connection active take a lot of battery. Go to settings and turn it off and try to see whether the problem exist. It'll will take you a few seconds to re-establish the connecting whenever you need it... not so unbearable considering it'll save a lot of battery.
Same, I notice the mobile chip is using abnormal amounts of battery.
In the morning I watched a 40 minute episode of drama.
Battery dove from 100% to 65%.
To preserve battery life, I turned Airplane mode on.
When I was done with the episode, there was still 55% battery left!
I'm pretty shocked at the battery drain.
I'm using one of the new 2.1 ROMs. They're known for having a bit of a battery-hunger. I solved it by installing the app Ultimatejuice from Market. it's a pay app, but it's worth it. It's also another app called juicedefender (free, less options) that I used before I bought the Ultimate. It also worked good! Now my battery lasts the whole day without any problem
I previously made a thread regarding low battery life.
After a week of use and more testing, here's what I gathered.
(Note: I have GPS, Bluetooth, Wifi always disabled, brightness lowest)
My phone will completely drain out in 6-7 hours.
I found the culprit: Cell Standby
1.) Cell Standby always uses the most battery, often 60%+.
2.) Phone Idle often follows with 30%+.
So, to verify my theory that the screen isn't the issue, I turned on airplane mode.
I proceeded to watch a 1 hour comedy, and battery life dropped from 60% to 50%.
This is lower battery usage than if it were sleeping with cellphone on.
I then noticed that my signal hasn't been good (provider sucks, no choice, all of em here sucks).
So, I placed my phone on, but asleep inside a locker for 2 hours (no signal).
When I took it out, it was very warm at 40+ C and battery life dropped about 20-30% per hour.
I've tried turning 3G off, turning always-connected off or downgrading 2g.
The result has always been the same. It still sucks bigtime.
It seems like Nexus One also has this problem, anyone notice similar problems?
I've googled and been told that this is "normal", because the phone increases power to secure a signal.
However, I've clearly owned phones and placed them in signal-less lockers prior to this, and trust me when I say most of them drop 5% per hour max.
20-30% per hour is horrible, and clearly the phone is overpowering its components.
There are some certain Radios you can flash to improve how your phone uses power to pick up a signal, Requires root access tho.
Can you please point me to those radios? I've already tried updating my radio to latest.
My phone is already rooted.
My battery is a joke and I have tried many different things. I always have to charge it by around 3pm everyday during week as It will almost die on way home.
I take it of charge at 7.30am by 9.30 it could be down to 86% and then it judt continues to drop by 3 It can be between 60 and 50% if lucky, by time i'm tenmins from my house I get 15% and warnings.
I use basically for txt, some net usage and sometimes playing a game 10 - 20 mins tops and or read ten mins of books.
I have all updates off only manual and screen down low etc - doing my head in!
G2 (HERO!)
choccy31 said:
My battery is a joke and I have tried many different things. I always have to charge it by around 3pm everyday during week as It will almost die on way home.
I take it of charge at 7.30am by 9.30 it could be down to 86% and then it judt continues to drop by 3 It can be between 60 and 50% if lucky, by time i'm tenmins from my house I get 15% and warnings.
I use basically for txt, some net usage and sometimes playing a game 10 - 20 mins tops and or read ten mins of books.
I have all updates off only manual and screen down low etc - doing my head in!
G2 (HERO!)
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Im facing the same level of battery drain, but i have 3G turned on constantly with updates from facebook every hour twitter updates every 15 mins and mail app every 30 mins. And i mostly use my phone for music and SMS with occasional browsing.
aziz831 said:
Im facing the same level of battery drain, but i have 3G turned on constantly with updates from facebook every hour twitter updates every 15 mins and mail app every 30 mins. And i mostly use my phone for music and SMS with occasional browsing.
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Strange, I always have 3g on, and still play a lot with my hero (games and such)
Still it survives about 36 hours on 1 battery load. Without 3g it holds out for 72 hours.
Post #1 on the thread below seems to have a working solution (re-interpreted below)
It seems to be something to do with the battery stats and charging via usb through PC instead of via the mains.
You have to clear your battery data when your phone has really really low battery (this is probably the MOST IMPORTANT step) (you can do this through recovery mode in amonRa). Once the battery data is clear, switch back on (before plugging in) and drain the battery so that your phone switches off by itself (playing music loud and switching wifi, data connect etc, etc is suggested in the thread).
Once battery has died, plug in your phone WHILE it is STILL OFF, then when the battery shows green (will probably take longer to charge because this time it is getting a full charge), UNPLUG BEFORE you switch it on. and you should notice the significant difference. - Oh yeah make sure you switch off all those data connections and wifi and all those other things that you used to drain the battery - unless you use some of them of course
EXTRA TIP given on the thread: TIP!! Remeber when changing and flashing new roms to unplug the phone from charge *(i.e. unplug from your PC) (edit Bad4ss) * after you boot!
TO answer LennyUK's Q below ( and so that the next page doesn't start to quickly before this suggestion is read ) I think why it is suggested for the first boot after this process to be done while off is because it is already off because of the drain AND because it will get a clean full charge up for the first time after a battery data wipe. Because while it is on it will be depleting the battery even if it is in a small way - after that you can do it whichever way you want *nudge-nudge-wink-wink-say-no-more*
Source:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=647460
I don't see why the same thing cannot be achieved by charging with the phone on, just as long as you don't change between phone being on or off during the charge i.e. if you start charging with the phone on leave it like that the whole time and visa versa
Bad4ss said:
Post #1 on the thread below seems to have a working solution (re-interpreted below)
It seems to be something to do with the battery stats and charging via usb through PC instead of via the mains.
You have to clear your battery data when your phone has really really low battery (this is probably the MOST IMPORTANT step) (you can do this through recovery mode in amonRa). Once the battery data is clear, switch back on (before plugging in) and drain the battery so that your phone switches off by itself (playing music loud and switching wifi, data connect etc, etc is suggested in the thread).
Once battery has died, plug in your phone WHILE it is STILL OFF, then when the battery shows green (will probably take longer to charge because this time it is getting a full charge), UNPLUG BEFORE you switch it on. and you should notice the significant difference. - Oh yeah make sure you switch off all those data connections and wifi and all those other things that you used to drain the battery - unless you use some of them of course
EXTRA TIP given on the thread: TIP!! Remeber when changing and flashing new roms to unplug the phone from charge *(i.e. unplug from your PC) (edit Bad4ss) * after you boot!
TO answer LennyUK's Q below ( and so that the next page doesn't start to quickly before this suggestion is read ) I think why it is suggested for the first boot after this process to be done while off is because it is already off because of the drain AND because it will get a clean full charge up for the first time after a battery data wipe. Because while it is on it will be depleting the battery even if it is in a small way - after that you can do it whichever way you want *nudge-nudge-wink-wink-say-no-more*
Source:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=647460
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Can you do this on non rooted phone? How do I get into recovery mode?
I think the analysis is flawed. I also think the stats information doesn't tell you everything. For example, yesterday I had 60% cell standby, 20% WiFi, 20% phone idle. Consumption was 45% in 24 hours.
Previous to yesterday, I had high battery consumption. So yesterday was a breakthrough but YMMV. I removed the PCSCII and the Mail app (I don't sync with Exchange and I don't sync with a PC as such - I don't run Windows). I also disabled auto task killer. I rebooted without being connected via USB to power or to PC. Suddenly power consumption became similar to Modaco ROMs.
Last night, I also disabled the setCPU application and rebooted. 6% battery consumption in 9 hours. 34% cell standby, 33% WiFi, 33% phone idle. Consumption was 45% in 24 hours.
how have you improved battery usage, ive tried resetting battery stats, draining battery, fully charging, using kimera 1.5 and with no wifi no bluetooth, not using phone in few hours it was down to 63% and in 10mins had dropped to 59%
i had similar battery problems but today i changed radio versions into a different one, now i get almost full signal all the time and battery usage is geatly increased (went down 2% in 4 hours as compared to 10%/hour)
so i suggest finding a radio that give you good reception
immya said:
i had similar battery problems but today i changed radio versions into a different one, now i get almost full signal all the time and battery usage is geatly increased (went down 2% in 4 hours as compared to 10%/hour)
so i suggest finding a radio that give you good reception
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Which one did you use?
im on tmobile uk, changes radio from
63.18.55.06JU_6.35.09.26 to
63.18.55.06JU_6.35.08.29
made alot of diference
you should ty out diferent radios and find one that gives the best reception, it will be different for different providers and countries
also i did this...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=647460
i unplugged my phone from the charger after doing this at 6am, it had 100% charge
its now10:45 pm, i have 44%charge left...its crazy
before i used to run out of juice around 10 hours after i charged my phone, its not been almost 17 hous and i got 45% left
i seriously suggest doing this
immya said:
im on tmobile uk, changes radio from
63.18.55.06JU_6.35.09.26 to
63.18.55.06JU_6.35.08.29
made alot of diference
you should ty out diferent radios and find one that gives the best reception, it will be different for different providers and countries
also i did this...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=647460
i unplugged my phone from the charger after doing this at 6am, it had 100% charge
its now10:45 pm, i have 44%charge left...its crazy
before i used to run out of juice around 10 hours after i charged my phone, its not been almost 17 hous and i got 45% left
i seriously suggest doing this
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I will use that radio too seeing as I too am on T-Mobile in the UK. When you say to use the link and suggest doing it, I take it you mean the "get to 10% -> get to recovery mode -> wipe battery info -> reboot and drain battery 'til off -> charge while off and the take off charger once charged and switch on..
'cos I tried that and still having problems - am using the new Villain 4.0 beta2, so maybe the radio change in combination to this is what will work - I'll try it tonight when I get home.
immya : many thanks i now hove phone back
flashed radio 63.18.55.06_6.35.05.31
and lost 1% over night
previously on LOST
radio 63.18.55.06JU_6.35.09.26 lost 56% overnight
perhaps issue with 2.1 roms is the latest radio and not latest kernal
BTW using sensehero at moment as was trying 1.5 roms to get better battery, and that didnt work.
some one maybe sticky this info , if anymore find it a saviour. will report back after work, mayeven be able to use data syncing again
I got my refurb LG Optimus from T-mobile a little over two weeks ago. I set it up with Groove IP and have wifi on almost all day with the phone in airplane mode. Running stock 2.2 and stock kernel, haven't rooted or anything. Generally I had it unplugged for about 14 hours a day and would charge it nightly. Battery life would get down in the 20-30% range on occasion and it was generally looking like I would have gotten about 20 hours total if I would have taken it down to 0%.
Without remembering making any major changes (updated a couple apps maybe) I am currently at 2 days 4 hours since last charge and battery is at 60%. This is the first time it's going this long ... basically two nights ago I was about to plug it in when I noticed the battery level was still really high so I didn't bother. Still high last night so I again didn't plug it in.
Any ideas what would cause this to happen? Looking at the battery use, it is mostly the same as before (50% wifi, 19% phone idle, 15% cell standby, 10% android system, a little to display and some other stuff). Was the battery level indication just wrong the first couple weeks? i.e. when it said 30% left it really might have been at like 80%?
Not complaining at all of course and I hope I keep getting this battery life.
In the past, my Gear S has given me amazing battery life. I was getting (with light-to-average use) around 1.5-2 days per charge, on really light use I got 2.5-3 days!
Now I struggle to get 1 long day...
Here was my Gear's Day:
got up at 9:15, took it off the charger
at 9:30 my SGN4's alarm went off so the Gear notified me and alarmed, I shut it off after a few seconds.
Morning: checked the time a few times (probably 5, max 10)
Lunch: set the alarm on my gear, alarm went off, I turned it off after probably 5-10 seconds
Afternoon: checked the time another 5-10 times.
Tonight: couple skype notifications (8 total) and 1 eBay notification
2am: 20% battery
17 hours of light useage to almost completely drain the battery.
Previously I would use my gear to remote-control the music on my phone or my PC, surf the net on it some, use the flashlight (screen to max brightness for upto a couple minutes) and make long calls (upto 2 hours) and still ahve a good 40% or more at night, sometimes as much as 80% (as I said it lasted roughly 1.5-3 days)
Anyone have any ideas what's going on? This has been happening for a couple days now. Suggestions? (and yes, I have done a soft-reset)
Ashton_Durkhun said:
In the past, my Gear S has given me amazing battery life. I was getting (with light-to-average use) around 1.5-2 days per charge, on really light use I got 2.5-3 days!
Now I struggle to get 1 long day...
Here was my Gear's Day:
got up at 9:15, took it off the charger
at 9:30 my SGN4's alarm went off so the Gear notified me and alarmed, I shut it off after a few seconds.
Morning: checked the time a few times (probably 5, max 10)
Lunch: set the alarm on my gear, alarm went off, I turned it off after probably 5-10 seconds
Afternoon: checked the time another 5-10 times.
Tonight: couple skype notifications (8 total) and 1 eBay notification
2am: 20% battery
17 hours of light useage to almost completely drain the battery.
Previously I would use my gear to remote-control the music on my phone or my PC, surf the net on it some, use the flashlight (screen to max brightness for upto a couple minutes) and make long calls (upto 2 hours) and still ahve a good 40% or more at night, sometimes as much as 80% (as I said it lasted roughly 1.5-3 days)
Anyone have any ideas what's going on? This has been happening for a couple days now. Suggestions? (and yes, I have done a soft-reset)
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Yeah, that sounds pretty bad. I had that problem once and a reset fixed it. If you already tried that then you might want to try a complete reset along with odin flashing the stock firmware.
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Ashton_Durkhun said:
In the past, my Gear S has given me amazing battery life. I was getting (with light-to-average use) around 1.5-2 days per charge, on really light use I got 2.5-3 days!
Now I struggle to get 1 long day...
Here was my Gear's Day:
got up at 9:15, took it off the charger
at 9:30 my SGN4's alarm went off so the Gear notified me and alarmed, I shut it off after a few seconds.
Morning: checked the time a few times (probably 5, max 10)
Lunch: set the alarm on my gear, alarm went off, I turned it off after probably 5-10 seconds
Afternoon: checked the time another 5-10 times.
Tonight: couple skype notifications (8 total) and 1 eBay notification
2am: 20% battery
17 hours of light useage to almost completely drain the battery.
Previously I would use my gear to remote-control the music on my phone or my PC, surf the net on it some, use the flashlight (screen to max brightness for upto a couple minutes) and make long calls (upto 2 hours) and still ahve a good 40% or more at night, sometimes as much as 80% (as I said it lasted roughly 1.5-3 days)
Anyone have any ideas what's going on? This has been happening for a couple days now. Suggestions? (and yes, I have done a soft-reset)
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Just curious, reading between the lines it looks like you leave it on charge all night. My experience with leaving things charging all night is not good, I know people can argue all day about the tech capabilities of modern day charging , but, no system is 100% perfect 100% of the time, and if anything is going to go a wry, it seems to bring it to a head and some times rather quickly, by all night charge or different/higher capacity chargers, and this watch doesn't take long to charge.
The software upgrade one time on my gs1, caused it to backwards drain immediately after full charge was reached, if it was still left on charge.
With your watch , you could try, draining it fully at the evening leaving it for an half hour, then charging it only till its full, with its own charger then pull it strait out. A couple of full drains/100% charge and disconnect cycles with its own charger might do it.
Forgive me if I've misread your words so nothing here would apply.
Ps I've been tempted to use my tab s rapid charge but the power of the watches unit is quite low so I'm stocking with its own power rating. Good luck
Wich watchface ?
Example : WatchStyler -> 5% by hour
Original Samsung Analog face with eco mode -> 2% by hour (and sometime 1.6%)
Keep an app in background, ex SportStopwatch -> 8% by hour....
Well, it works now. I'm still not sure what caused it though (especially since I'm careful to use the "close all apps" at night and whenever I think of it) However, I do have several somewhat-intensive programs loaded that could have been triggered like Zensou (sp?) Youtube player (though no video was loaded that I'm sure of) as well as Opera Mini. I also have Gear Remote (controls PC though a mated app on my phone) . Any could have triggered since they're all on my homescreen (using the Launcher Face in 8-button mode)
I've been charging using a cheep $10 eBay charger (bought two and one broke within a week so I opened it up and from the looks of it, it literally just turns traces direct from Power +/- and Data +/- on the USB to the Watch, absolutely nothing else in there. I've only used the charger that came with my gear (or my PC's data connection while loading up media)
Charging was overnight and sometimes longer, I'll try charging it less time next time I notice trouble again just in case (though so far not seen a difference in my experiences, usually both methods drop from 100% to ~97 percent in ~2 hours)
One other thing I noticed was I started getting a "SIM not Provisioned" error (apparently my H2O service expired and they didn't remind me) but my thoughts are that it would have no effect on the battery life since I'm in bluetooth mode 99% of the time
Thanks everyone!
What advantage do I have with a stockroom ?
peter7 said:
What advantage do I have with a stockroom ?
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Keep clothes in.
I've been struggling with significant battery problems on my OG Pixel running android 10 - fast battery drain. I just need it to last a few more months until the Pixel 5 comes out, but at this point it drains so fast that it's not reliable. Here is what I've done:
1. Factory reset phone. Didn't seem to make a difference
2. Had a new OEM battery installed by ubreakifix. Still the same problem.
3. Tried calibrating the new battery using the technique of draining the battery completely, charging while off, and then restarting multiple times and charging up to 100% each time. The problem was that after each reboot, the battery percentage would start quite low - maybe 60 or 70 percent. It seemed like an endless loop, never rebooting close to 100%.
Ultimately, it it seems that the calibration hasn't worked. I still get rapid battery drain and the phone will often shutoff at random percentages (20, 30, 50 percent). Also, every time I reboot the phone, the new battery percentage is quite low.
Basically, the impression I get is that the phone just isn't accurately reading the battery charge even after recalibration.
I'm out of ideas, but really just need a few more months out of this phone. Any suggestions on next steps to keep this Pixel going for a while longer?