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Why bother to root the 3VO or any phone?
How does Sprint update? If Sprint can update and change "stuff" in the rom like the clock or whatever, or even change the system from 2.2 to 2.3 how do they do it?
Is there some code in the front end of the install, that allows this update without root?
I suggest find this part of any update that Sprint uses; and then just run this section of code on any/every new rom that any developer wants to run...
I remember looking at some old games and programs, and being able to find the lost "code keys" that were actually on the cd's in hidden files.... type those into the program when they started, and bam.... no "key" on the box needed.
Anyway, if Sprint can do it without "root" why bother to root - just find the hidden lines!
This might seem simple, or maybe obsurd, or just outside the "box".... but seriously - what if?
The hell?
Drugs are bad mmkay?
Hmmm. Ok go ahead and get on that
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Hmmmm perhaps you don't get it...
i.e. if sprint can 're-rom" our locked phones... why can't we?
Que....?
I goes something like this.
Take the firmware, zip it up, take that zip, encrypt it with a private key. Push this OTA to the device.
The device will read the OTA update, check to see if the decryption key succeeds and then flash the device.
You're confusing headers in unsigned roms with hash checks in encrypted roms.
In simplest forms this is a header
Start>Rom1
You can change Rom1 to Rom2
Start>Rom2
That's a header.
Encryption is a little bit harder.
For simplicity sake let's just say the encryption key was +5 and decryption key was -5.
If your rom contained simply this.
Hello
Your file would be
Mjqqt
Send that to the phone it'll derive that into Hello
Now unless you know the encryption/decryption key how would you know that Mjqqt was Hello? It's not gonna be as simple as -5/+5 or anything like that.
Play with PGP and you'll see that the word Hello could be something like this
390tu904ugriojwG#GvrgerfdojeGO#J)94g39141Hb9ohbrG$#!Tjodsdfobadvscnleojgireig340909g3098409riorgkenR)#dgro0gJ#$)!0rejg!#GJ!!JRGH!#$G9je10ojgreojer1
You make it sound so simple. Too bad these phones are locked with strong modern encryption... The only way to install an update like htc/sprint can is it is signed with the correct private key, which only they have.
Because we don't have the private key to sign the update. There, no more questions on this thread.
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Stephanie95 said:
Hmmmm perhaps you don't get it...
i.e. if sprint can 're-rom" our locked phones... why can't we?
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Here, let me explain... it's like this. You go to work, but you can't go beyond your department. Sprint/HTC owns the office building, so they go in and out, with their key. You on the other hand, can only go where they let you go. Now if we some how find a little crack in the wall some where, we might be able to get in and then do as we please. We might even be able to change the locks so they can't get in unless we let them.
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Here, let me explain... it's like this. You go to work, but you can't go beyond your department. Sprint/HTC owns the office building, so they go in and out, with their key. You on the other hand, can only go where they let you go. Now if we some how find a little crack in the wall some where, we might be able to get in and then do as we please. We might even be able to change the locks so they can't get in unless we let them.
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Ok what about a "key-gen" ? i.e.
Is there an "encryption-gen"?
Can we delete this thread? Its taking up precious bandwidth from the internet.
Sent from my encrypted EVO 3d with ultra-secret decoder keys
Stephanie95 said:
Ok what about a "key-gen" ? i.e.
Is there an "encryption-gen"?
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I know that not everyone is knowledgeable on every subject, but instead of asking here, you can do some Google searches about public private key encryption.
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nealwheels said:
Can we delete this thread? Its taking up precious bandwidth from the internet.
Sent from my encrypted EVO 3d with ultra-secret decoder keys
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Hmmmm... this takes up bandwidth- from what? Crysis2 takes up tons of bandwidth and "they" can get away with it... this is just a bit of typing once ever 5 min... lol
Have some fun and think outside the BOX!
i.e. both Sprint and HTC have this code and the phones don't need to be unlocked to install a new ROM
lol
swatspyder said:
I know that not everyone is knowledgeable on every subject, but instead of asking here, you can do some Google searches about public private key encryption.
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Ya I will - but I was hoping the genius of the developers could hack something quickly... I don't know what I'm doing, other than "Brain-Storming"
Brainstorming is a good first step to get over "the wall"
I get my 3VO monday
Stephanie95 said:
Ok what about a "key-gen" ? i.e.
Is there an "encryption-gen"?
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I see what the OP is trying to say there is like a master program code that opens the door for the OTA to get pushed through.
I really would rather wait for a good program to come back such as unrevoked 3 and then AMON other then that im sure sprint has hidden there tracks really well because if they didn't this would be known world wide by now
There is no keygen for such a thing . There waiting on HTC to do a update to unlock the phone which should be soon.
reaper24 said:
There is no keygen for such a thing . There waiting on HTC to do a update to unlock the phone which should be soon.
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ok cool
does every phone have it's specific type of encryption?
I imagine they all have different "code-keys"
But, I wonder if anyone knows how the EVO was encrypted, or any of the older phones? Would that help?
I'm really pulling for the developers to come up with a "simlpe root" for the
3VO!
Using the computer to open files and "push stuff in a shell with pc3600.exe.zip.whatever.something.newfile... wasn't easy when I got my EVO when it was released(with "s-on"). lol
Alright, honestly we just need to wait for HTC to release a update...
Its been 24 hours and already some people are thirsty to root this bad boy...
Give it time
Stephanie95 said:
ok cool
does every phone have it's specific type of encryption?
I imagine they all have different "code-keys"
But, I wonder if anyone knows how the EVO was encrypted, or any of the older phones? Would that help?
I'm really pulling for the developers to come up with a "simlpe root" for the
3VO!
Using the computer to open files and "push stuff in a shell with pc3600.exe.zip.whatever.something.newfile... wasn't easy when I got my EVO when it was released(with "s-on"). lol
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Htc really locked this sucker down from what I remember then enough people started *****in and HTC CEO said it will not be locked down with that crazy encryption which would take year or more to break.
From what I know and read were waiting on them to unlock us and the devs to build stuff along with a easy root
Stephanie95 said:
I get my 3VO monday
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Please, buy an iphone.
Oh, and never post in the Developer section again. OKTHANKSBYE
I know there are tons of threads out there showing how to get the MSL, some involve calling sprint and getting a nice rep, others require external tools to read info from the device... here's a way that i discovered (on accident really) for the Evo-3D..
First obtain temp root via any method you wish.
Next we need to 'download' the Radio_Config from the phone, we can do this by issuing the following commands:
(You may need temp root, i'll double check since my phone already had it)
adb shell cat /dev/block/mmcblk0p19 > /sdcard/radio.cfg
adb pull /sdcard/radio.cfg
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after we have this file, open it up in a hex editor and go to the offset 0x107AC4, this is your MSL number.
Use Sprint Chat
I just had a chat session and I got the MSL in under 2 minutes !
if you have temp root, another method would be to download MSL reader from the market.
dadoc04 said:
if you have temp root, another method would be to download MSL reader from the market.
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which is much easier lol
All of those comments are true, but for us over in the "shaking something loose" thread, we're looking at the raw radio config, so this method is nice....
BTW, I've grabbed my MSL this way and it seems to work just fine....
Nieylana said:
I know there are tons of threads out there showing how to get the MSL, some involve calling sprint and getting a nice rep, others require external tools to read info from the device... here's a way that i discovered (on accident really) for the Evo-3D..
First obtain temp root via any method you wish.
Next we need to 'download' the Radio_Config from the phone, we can do this by issuing the following commands:
(You may need temp root, i'll double check since my phone already had it)
after we have this file, open it up in a hex editor and go to the offset 0x107AC4, this is your MSL number.
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Good finding!
Thank you for the new way (serious), but IMHO, if you have temp root, the app "MSL reader" in the market is waaay easier. Peace.
EDIT: wtf, iFail, sometomes I look at a thread, see one reply, post mine, and then xda is all like "oh yeah, there were a bunch of posts already, and they covered this, but we were hiding it from your browser" ....
sorry for the duplicate
+1 yea i just downloaded MSL reader from the market and got my MSL very easy to do !! Make sure you have temp tho .
All I did was a 30 second phone call to Sprint
cyberbrutus said:
I just had a chat session and I got the MSL in under 2 minutes !
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asked the guy to hit the print button on the device details page before the next button when I bought it.
+1 people skills
Like was said in the OP, i know there are many other ways to do this, I discovered this again by accident, my wife's evo3d doesn't have the OTA update, and mine does... I was taking a look at the bytes agrabren believes to be the bytes we need to change to get s-off and wanted to compare hers and mine, and found this in the process.
Nieylana said:
Like was said in the OP, i know there are many other ways to do this, I discovered this again by accident, my wife's evo3d doesn't have the OTA update, and mine does... I was taking a look at the bytes agrabren believes to be the bytes we need to change to get s-off and wanted to compare hers and mine, and found this in the process.
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Ty sir
sent from my EVO 3D
Used MSL reader on my old Evo and it worked flawlessly. VERY easy.
rutter9 said:
All I did was a 30 second phone call to Sprint
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what did you say when they asked you "why" lol
I think the easiest way is to call and ask how to reactivate your phone. Say you had to reset it. And they will give you a 6 digital "special code". And you all know what that special code is.
When I called to get mine the rep said he couldn't give the MSL out but said he could tell me how to activate my phone with a little smiley face at the at the end of his sentence. Glad I got a knowledgeable rep and helpful without getting him in trouble.
Sent from my iPhone with the bigger GeeBees.
eslogic said:
what did you say when they asked you "why" lol
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First off, you din't really need a WHY... it is YOUR phone, period! There are many reasons you could ask for it, but I use the one that I needed it for on the HTC Hero which was to change the "Slot Index Cycle" of the phone... if you don't know what this is, do a quick search, it'll learn ya', the EVO3D is set to "2" as is default (on most) phones, but I like mine set at "0".
Good Luck, but really you shouldn't need it.
Regards!
Come on guys this is useful info.
We don't need to know what way you feel is the easiest.
Damn this forum is going downhill.
eslogic said:
what did you say when they asked you "why" lol
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Tell them you are a developer and you need the MSL to test out a new app you are working on. It sounds good enough that they typically won't ask any further questions.
Lafester... of course it is, there is no doubt this is helpful to those who chose this path in the OP to obtain it, very interesting mind you, as there are many ways to skin a cat, so to say...
By the way, I just gave it a shot, just to see how long it would take Sprint via phone and it was 1 minute 37 seconds exempting the time on hold, lol.
Remember, keep the MSL "TIGHT" as someone could, (cough) COULD clone your phone with it... just saying.
Have a nice day all...
You cannot Clone a phone with a msl number.
Lol false info!!
Hello,
Long story short, I am pretty sure my child has a serious problem that he is refusing to share for some reason (I'm getting the idea that he's not allowed to). I am afraid he'll enter clinical depression if I couldn't help him. I am pretty sure I will have an idea about what's going on if I could get my hands on his whatsapp chat with a specific contact. Is there any app that can do that? I read StealthGenie can do that but it's very expensive ($110).
Any help will be much appreciated.
Thanks
PeritoX said:
Hello,
Long story short, I am pretty sure my child has a serious problem that he is refusing to share for some reason (I'm getting the idea that he's not allowed to). I am afraid he'll enter clinical depression if I couldn't help him. I am pretty sure I will have an idea about what's going on if I could get my hands on his whatsapp chat with a specific contact. Is there any app that can do that? I read StealthGenie can do that but it's very expensive ($110).
Any help will be much appreciated.
Thanks
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If his device is rooted, the database whatsapp stores the texts is in plain text... But that needs you to have his device in your hands anyway so thre must be a more simple solution. Oh, I read the stealthgenie stuf, the phone needs to be rooted anyway to get it to work with whatsapp so it needs to be in your hands. Meaning you should be able to read the whatsapp just by holding the thing.
Hey guys,
i'm looking for someone with a Huawei "Phone Account", and is willing to help me generate my bootloader unlock code
i am from Germany and can't register a "Phone Account" with my phone number.
i desperately hope there is someone that is willing to help me, just post here and i'll provide the necessary information via pm!
tfBullet
At the risk of sounding silly, do some Googling on this one. What you're asking for is a little sketchy, but there's a large enough community of tinkers for Huawei since they've penetrated the North American market. You may have to google translate some of the foreign resources.
Googling for what exactly? i googled for days, and didn't find any way, despite sending an email to [email protected], which i did 6 times, starting five weeks ago, and havent got ANY sort of reply so please be a bit more specific
tfBullet said:
Googling for what exactly? i googled for days, and didn't find any way, despite sending an email to [email protected], which i did 6 times, starting five weeks ago, and havent got ANY sort of reply so please be a bit more specific
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Had any luck? I'm in the same boat -- it seems since the online boot code unlocker tool has gone live, Huawei has quit answering emails requesting a code (I've sent too many requests to count, for weeks now and gotten nothing back). But, just like you, I don't have a phone number that is eligible to register as a "phone account," and so the tool is useless.
I'm getting pretty close to ordering a cheap SIM from a country from which Huawei allows phone accounts to be registered.
EDIT: I managed it, just now. The key was to use the Chinese version of the unlock website ( h t t p://emui.huawei.com/cn/plugin.php?id=unlock&mod=detail ) -- this version doesn't require a product ID, and it doesn't even seem to matter what device you pick from the dropdown -- it just calculates the code from the SN and the IMEI (at least, for me, running it multiple times picking different devices but putting in the same SN and IMEI generated the same code each time; YMMV). Google translate does an EXCELLENT job on the page text, and it was super simple.
revston said:
Had any luck? I'm in the same boat -- it seems since the online boot code unlocker tool has gone live, Huawei has quit answering emails requesting a code (I've sent too many requests to count, for weeks now and gotten nothing back). But, just like you, I don't have a phone number that is eligible to register as a "phone account," and so the tool is useless.
I'm getting pretty close to ordering a cheap SIM from a country from which Huawei allows phone accounts to be registered.
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Dude, i'm sorry i didn't already respond here with my solution... actually, i have no idea if it was just luck, or if they have changed their system because of my e-mail-spam-campaign
So, this is how it worked for me! You go here: http://www.emui.com/plugin.php?id=unlock&mod=detail
1st: browser to http://www.emui.com/plugin.php?id=unlock&mod=detail
You should be landing directly on the unlock page!
---> don't change the language!! keep it chinese, or whatever kind of language that is ^^
---> don't user googe translater!
2nd: select the second element (from top to bottom) in the first box
3.: You select the model "HUAWEI Y300-0000"
4.: in the first box you enter your S/N
5. in the second your IMEI
6. in the third you enter the captcha
now send a prayer to god, and press the green button...
thats it, s if they ask for your account, then just use the normal account, which you probably already have
soo.... din't get any sleep the last two nights... cheers!
EDIT: Wow, i was that tired yesterday, i didn't even notice that i wrote Denglish (= German + English) sorry
i have corrected the post now, please let me know if you had success!
And don't hesitate to send me a PM with your data, if it doesn't work for you, i'll try it and do my best - know what you're going through man, i was at the same point, also even considering buying a foreign SIM just for this crap! And out of sheer frustration, i tryed it for the millionth time, and out of nowhere suddenly it worked... i couldn't believe it!
If it doesn't work for you, and i can generate your code for you, i'll write a webpage, which uses my account to help others that are stuck in the same dilemma...
well unfortunately, my device still won't boot, i can flash what i want, it shows me "Func NO : 12 (FUNC_LOAD_IOM3)" and i found almost no information about what it even means...
tfBullet said:
Dude, i'm sorry i didn't already respond here with my solution... actually, i have no idea if it was just luck, or if they have changed their system because of my e-mail-spam-campaign
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Hey, no worries! As I edited my earlier comment to say, I got it, using a variation of what you described as your process. Thanks a ton for your write up though -- hopefully it will also help the next person, because this is clearly a common problem.
I feel the same as you, that now that I've gotten it to work I want to make sure other people manage it as well -- a web page or new post with detailed instructions in the manufacturer specific forum...I dunno.
tfBullet said:
well unfortunately, my device still won't boot, i can flash what i want, it shows me "Func NO : 12 (FUNC_LOAD_IOM3)" and i found almost no information about what it even means...
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Ugh, sorry mate. Again I'm in a similar (though more common, and potentially less dire) boat: I can flash what I want, but I'm in a bootloop, only able to boot into recovery. Oh well...progress, right?
Good luck!
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Hey, no worries! As I edited my earlier comment to say, I got it, using a variation of what you described as your process. Thanks a ton for your write up though -- hopefully it will also help the next person, because this is clearly a common problem.
I feel the same as you, that now that I've gotten it to work I want to make sure other people manage it as well -- a web page or new post with detailed instructions in the manufacturer specific forum...I dunno.
Ugh, sorry mate. Again I'm in a similar (though more common, and potentially less dire) boat: I can flash what I want, but I'm in a bootloop, only able to boot into recovery. Oh well...progress, right?
Good luck!
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I'm glad you managed it! even with my writeup in total doze, couldnt even hold my eyes open (i think i actually fell asleep while writeing it a couple times xD) where i switched between languages,
and wrote half sentences but i wanted to get it out to you asap, to end your suffering
to your bootloop problem:
Well you're close, actually falshing a full image (B127 for example) should do the trick... if not, try to find out why the device is rebooting ( -> errorlogs)
to my problem: well, i cant even get into recovery, all i got atm is fastboot... the only thing the search revealed about the error i'm getting is, that this has something to do whith some kind of sensor(s), i guess i damaged a partition which holds some kind of firmware/driver for some kind of sensor...
BUT: i have a Riffbox, so my last resort is flashing via JTAG, but unfortunatley the Mate 7 isn't supported at the moment, and i didn't get a response when i asked them to help me build a ressurrector for it... :/
I bought this phone off a friend of a friend. It's not stolen I had a chat with Google on a way to get around it. They couldn't help me but they did run the IMEI code and it's not stolen or even reported missing. So the guy just hard rest it gave to me with out taking his Google account off the dang thing. Long story short I'm stuck with this phone and need help with a work around. Please help me.
Rbohannon89 said:
I bought this phone off a friend of a friend. It's not stolen I had a chat with Google on a way to get around it. They couldn't help me but they did run the IMEI code and it's not stolen or even reported missing. So the guy just hard rest it gave to me with out taking his Google account off the dang thing. Long story short I'm stuck with this phone and need help with a work around. Please help me.
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Double one
Original thread here :
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/help/alcatel-5044r-frp-bypass-bought-unable-t3860281
Why did you only quote me?