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Just wanted to drop a line as a new Motorola Photon owner.
I have been an XDA member for years and owned multiple devices. The Photon is replacing a HTC Shift. I additionally own a Sony S tablet.
Enjoying this new device!
dtaylorr said:
Just wanted to drop a line as a new Motorola Photon owner.
I have been an XDA member for years and owned multiple devices. The Photon is replacing a HTC Shift. I additionally own a Sony S tablet.
Enjoying this new device!
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Welcome to the Photon community!
Yea, welcome to the Family!
Welcome! I'm new too. Long time lurker, brand new poster. I have the Motorola Electrify, which is basically the same as the photon with some slightly different software, and no 4G =(. If you see people saying things like "Will you make an Electrify Version?" or "Does this work on Electrify?" That's just because the Photon and Electrify are so similar that making two forums is kind of silly. Unfortunately for me, my BL is locked, but I believe all versions of the Photon can be unlocked, so if Custom ROMs tickle your fancy, you're in luck!
Iorchova said:
Unfortunately for me, my BL is locked, but I believe all versions of the Photon can be unlocked, so if Custom ROMs tickle your fancy, you're in luck!
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I would not say unfortunate, I was unlocked and custom for months. 2/15/2012 I went bone stock and never looked back!!! MotoBLUR is not the best, but play with it long enough and you get things where you want them, you become confortable? Matter fact, if you put 10 photons side-by-side, I could pick mine on the first try!
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I would not say unfortunate, I was unlocked and custom for months. 2/15/2012 I went bone stock and never looked back!!! MotoBLUR is not the best, but play with it long enough and you get things where you want them, you become confortable? Matter fact, if you put 10 photons side-by-side, I could pick mine on the first try!
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Yes, I'm mostly fine with stock. I love it honestly. I just want to remove anything that's tracking me (a root should probably help with that) and to replace webtop with Ubuntop or Webtop+ (I'm still researching this.). I wouldn't mind switching to a custom rom if it still offered the full encryption, improved Exchange connectivity and the ability to get a real read on my extended battery.
I don't mean to hijack the thread, I just finally found a post with someone that likes stock and may know enough to be able to compare both or at least help me out in my searching.
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I don't mean to hijack the thread, I just finally found a post with someone that likes stock and may know enough to be able to compare both or at least help me out in my searching.
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I don't see it as jacking, I see it as a "one shop stop" for a new member and bring them up to speed on a few items/post that may interest them.
The encryption/tracking issue has been around for some time. Personally, I dont care. I go to work, home, maybe the grocery store, mall sometimes, and law enforcement is not looking for me (I dont think). secondly, once all carriers ditch CarrierIQ (is that the company that did their tracking?, that pretty much eased some mines. Personally, my GPS and WiFi (unless I need it) are off, you may get close off cell phone tower, but exactly where I am...............
As for Stock, ROM's gave me a headache. One day the phone worked, next it did not, would get home and it was working again? When I finally decided to put it back, I made a serious effort to see what stock had to offer, 2 days later I was happy and decided to dig deeper. Yes, I have a lot of bloatware, I just don't use it! Matter fact, I really don't hit the "App's" icon. Everything I do on a normal is on one of the Panels that I can find easily. But since I use the phone so much, if I'm in e-mail and I want to chack my bank, I just press and hold the home button and the last 10 current apps come up anyway, then I open the bank.
Thanks everyone.
I am a heavy modder, and spent 5 hours the first night I had my Photon downloading apps and setting up everything the way I like.
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Thanks everyone.
I am a heavy modder, and spent 5 hours the first night I had my Photon downloading apps and setting up everything the way I like.
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F.Y.I., downloading apps and setting everything up and modding are apples and oranges. Like srkelley and I, I have downloading apps and set everything up, stock! (matter fact, at one point I had 230+ apps, broke that down to less than 60!
Modding = Rooting (gaining Admin Rights to root directory) and unlocking (kicking Sprint to the door and taking control of your phone to do anything you damm well please, Like blowing away SprintNSCAR and installing whatever you want!)
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I don't see it as jacking, I see it as a "one shop stop" for a new member and bring them up to speed on a few items/post that may interest them.
The encryption/tracking issue has been around for some time. Personally, I dont care. I go to work, home, maybe the grocery store, mall sometimes, and law enforcement is not looking for me (I dont think). secondly, once all carriers ditch CarrierIQ (is that the company that did their tracking?, that pretty much eased some mines. Personally, my GPS and WiFi (unless I need it) are off, you may get close off cell phone tower, but exactly where I am...............
As for Stock, ROM's gave me a headache. One day the phone worked, next it did not, would get home and it was working again? When I finally decided to put it back, I made a serious effort to see what stock had to offer, 2 days later I was happy and decided to dig deeper. Yes, I have a lot of bloatware, I just don't use it! Matter fact, I really don't hit the "App's" icon. Everything I do on a normal is on one of the Panels that I can find easily. But since I use the phone so much, if I'm in e-mail and I want to chack my bank, I just press and hold the home button and the last 10 current apps come up anyway, then I open the bank.
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Thank you.
I'm too boring for big brother, but if anything were to ever occur then I'd like to make things as difficult as possible for them legally. I just don't like people going through my stuff but pretty much have to accept that it happens in our lives now. Not without a fight and exercising all of my rights though!
I'm probably going to back up stock and try something else for a while. I honestly don't feel limited in stock, just in Webtop. If I'm going to really go through with modifying anything then I may try underclocking the processor to see if I can get better battery life without losing performance in regular use. I don't do anything too taxing on the phone so it's power is mostly wasted on me outside of keeping things smooth.
hello
Welcome,have you unlocked and rooted?
Hi,
I also bought it few days back and I have rooted it and installed CWM too. My photon is unlocked meaning I can put any operators sim and use it. I am now in India and using it with Tata Docomo.
If I change the rom, do I have to unlock it again or it will stay unlocked forever ?
Thanks.
kikloo said:
Hi,
I also bought it few days back and I have rooted it and installed CWM too. My photon is unlocked meaning I can put any operators sim and use it. I am now in India and using it with Tata Docomo.
If I change the rom, do I have to unlock it again or it will stay unlocked forever ?
Thanks.
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You've unlocked the bootloader, so you can install custom ROMs, kernels, etc.
GSM isn't locked unless you are in the US, its a world phone.
Another Electrify user here, but I'm neither new here, nor new to the device. I've had it for a little over 4 months now. And I will never go back to stock. Screw that. The closest I will consider going is CM7.2. CyanogenMod+Gingerbread. I really don't want to downgrade from ICS, though. It's too nice. I will admit part of the thrill is having something most others (93% of Android users!) do not, but I genuinely like it on its own as well. I just got a huge performance increase going from stock to Joker's CM9, and ICS requires more resources than Gingerbread. Yet the phone runs faster? How does THAT work? It's because of bloatware. And Blur is just terribad. I imagine CM7.2 would be pretty slick since it doesn't require the power of ICS and has all the crap from Blur removed.
kikloo said:
If I change the rom, do I have to unlock it again or it will stay unlocked forever ?
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Nope! If you unlock the bootloader, it's unlocked. Flashing ROMs doesn't touch the bootloader. To re-lock the bootloader you would have to flash a locked bootloader. I haven't heard of anybody doing that, though.
Hello everyone,
I might have a big problem.
This morning I booted my HTC One M7 as usual, and when it finished booting it opened a browser tap with a fake whatsapp update. I closed the browser immediately, and five minutes after this, the exact same thing happened. I started thinking how this could happend, and honestly I have no clue. All my apps are from the play store, and I only download documents for school. I haven't even downloaded a new app in the last week, however 15+ of my apps aren't up to date.
I scanned my phone with malwarebytes and it couldn't find anything. I rebooted my phone after the scan, and the problem seems to be gone. I was telling this story to a friend of mine this afternoon, and my mother said that she experienced the same thing, just a couple hours before I experienced it. After further investigation, it wasn't exactly the same. When she opened whatsapp, it asked her to do a weekly back-up of her chats. At first, she closed whatsapp, but when it appeared again, she clicked yes. She wasn't very clear about this, so I don't know if it was a fake menu, or the real deal. I have also scanned her Moto g (2013), and it found no malware.
I don't know if this could be harmfull. Especially because my parents use their phones for mobile banking.
This is a screenshot of my HTC
It could easily have been done through whatsapp. Part of the reason most people have stopped using it. Viruses run rampant I'm just about all of Facebook apps. And no anti virus will find them as they are vastly different then normal viruses.
zelendel said:
It could easily have been done through whatsapp. Part of the reason most people have stopped using it. Viruses run rampant I'm just about all of Facebook apps. And no anti virus will find them as they are vastly different then normal viruses.
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In the Netherlands literally everybody uses it, but it's good to know that this could indeed happen! Should I be worried about this, and what should I do when it returns?
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In the Netherlands literally everybody uses it, but it's good to know that this could indeed happen! Should I be worried about this, and what should I do when it returns?
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Yeah I heard alot of people in Europe use it alot, here in the states almost no one uses it really except for kids. Most have moved to hangouts.
If I was you I would completely back up the device and then wipe everything and reflash the device.
Things like this will not be picked up by so called virus scanners.
I'am afraid that it is something like ShiftyBug (https://blog.lookout.com/blog/2015/11/04/trojanized-adware/). In the article it says that you have to install apps from third parties, but I have almost never done that. I have downloaded popcorntime in the past, but I have deletet it almost 6 months ago.
I'm afraid that if I reflash my device, that it will come back fairly soon. Is it possible that it has spread over my wifi network? Because of the fact that my mother got something similar on the same day.
But how do I know for sure that it is a virus? After I restarted my phone (12 hours ago), it hasn't shown up yet. Am I worried for nothing, or is there a big chances that I'm infected?
Thank you for all your replies!
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I'am afraid that it is something like ShiftyBug (https://blog.lookout.com/blog/2015/11/04/trojanized-adware/). In the article it says that you have to install apps from third parties, but I have almost never done that. I have downloaded popcorntime in the past, but I have deletet it almost 6 months ago.
I'm afraid that if I reflash my device, that it will come back fairly soon. Is it possible that it has spread over my wifi network? Because of the fact that my mother got something similar on the same day.
But how do I know for sure that it is a virus? After I restarted my phone (12 hours ago), it hasn't shown up yet. Am I worried for nothing, or is there a big chances that I'm infected?
Thank you for all your replies!
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The key word there is almost. If you reflash the device and it comes back then it maybe something that someopne else downloaded and was shared through your network. As you said your mother also saw it so I would go through her phone as well.
There are many apps out there that do this that are in the play store. So it is all a matter of being careful.
There is a chance. If it is big or not depends on how you use your device. It could also have come from a website someone visited. Im not saying you did but many porn sites are set to infect devices when they visit them.
If it was me. I would just start from scratch with each device and make sure that all the things installed are legit.
You could also run a logcat and try to reproduce it. That would tell you what is causing it.
Doesn't seem dangerous.
JohnColston said:
Doesn't seem dangerous.
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Then you have not been paying attention. Any browser pop that tells you to update an app is 99% an infected apk. It is a common practice for those that take apks and re-package them with malware
After reading more i must admit you are right.... My bad:good:
So I have to flash my phone, aren't there any other options? And if not, how do I reflash The HTC firmware to my phone?
Should I make a back-up before doing this, won't the malware spread again if I instal the back-up on my phone?
Thanks again!
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Unfortunately, I still haven't been able to reproduce the problem.
I still haven't been able to reproduce the pop-up.
I do propably know where the problem came from, a friend of mine sent me a older version of soundcloud (the new one can't cache music). I installed that app, decided that it was to old for me and deleted it. The malware must have spread right after the first use. I'm planning on flashing my phone inthe weekend.
EDIT: I can reprodce the pop-up! It's linked to opening the app 'night mode', this app was downloaded in the official play store 2 years ago. Since then it hasn't got a lot of updates though.
Hey,
Time for a little update.
Last weekend, I contacted HTC's customer support due to the fact that I couldn't find my software version. They told me that I should execute a RUU, but they couldn't find the right version, so I had to contact the Dutch customer support (I didn't do this in the first place because the Dutch customer support wasn't open in the weekend).
The next monday (23-11) I contacted the Dutch customer support and asked them for the ROM, and unfortunately due to the regulations they don't publish the ROM's. However, they told me to do a factory reset and that should solve the issue. Unfortunately, it didn't. After the reset, I now get a different Whatsapp pop-up once or twice a day. The pop-up isn't connected to opening an app, like it was before the reset.
A friend of mine experienced the same problem this week on his new Moto X. All the other phones in my home network don't have this problem.
I hope someone will be able to help me!
Thanks in advance!
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Hey,
Time for a little update.
Last weekend, I contacted HTC's customer support due to the fact that I couldn't find my software version. They told me that I should execute a RUU, but they couldn't find the right version, so I had to contact the Dutch customer support (I didn't do this in the first place because the Dutch customer support wasn't open in the weekend).
The next monday (23-11) I contacted the Dutch customer support and asked them for the ROM, and unfortunately due to the regulations they don't publish the ROM's. However, they told me to do a factory reset and that should solve the issue. Unfortunately, it didn't. After the reset, I now get a different Whatsapp pop-up once or twice a day. The pop-up isn't connected to opening an app, like it was before the reset.
A friend of mine experienced the same problem this week on his new Moto X. All the other phones in my home network don't have this problem.
I hope someone will be able to help me!
Thanks in advance!
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There's a chance that it might've spread over a certain network.... Is you and your moto x friend uses the same network ?
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There's a chance that it might've spread over a certain network.... Is you and your moto x friend uses the same network ?
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Yes, we both use the wifi network at our high school. But I did the factory reset friday evening, and since then I haven't connected to that network.
It might have spread through that network though.
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Yes, we both use the wifi network at our high school. But I did the factory reset friday evening, and since then I haven't connected to that network.
It might have spread through that network though.
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Depending on the malware a factory reset will not remove it. In fact most malware cant be removed that way. You have to flash the whole device to get rid of it.
Dark-shot said:
Yes, we both use the wifi network at our high school. But I did the factory reset friday evening, and since then I haven't connected to that network.
It might have spread through that network though.
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In my opinion after starting all over again as you've already been told, you should do all that you did before and monitor each step with patience and concentration to actually understand what's behind this... This may help out
sdeepb said:
In my opinion after starting all over again as you've already been told, you should do all that you did before and monitor each step with patience and concentration to actually understand what's behind this... This may help out
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As he said. Here is what I would do if I was in your place. Anyone got any extra steps to add feel free to chime in. This would kinda suck for a bit.
You will need a custom recovery. And a bit of time to set up
1. Take everything off device.
2. Format full device in recovery. Not factory reset. Format system, data, internal storage and both caches.
3. Flash complete stock firmware.
4. Get root before rebooting
5. Reboot, do not connect to wifi during set up. Do not restore anything.
6. Get Catlog from the play store and run it.
7. Then continue set up. Wifi and ect. Scan backed up files with a pc virus scan but only return what you really need.
8. When restoring from TIBU install apps fresh from the market and restore data only to apps. (sucks I know but only way to be sure) make sure to delete old back and redo.
Then monitor catlog. This will tell you everything going on. You would be able to figure it out.
Lol... Use adaway or adblocker and such pop up will be gone ... These are the new tricks from those freaking advertisement companies. They are now smart buddy. Even they can access the vibration as the pop up will come phone will get vibrate and users understand this as genuine and click on those ads . You got whatsapp pop some got browser pop up. Hope this will help u ...
Even you can flash moaAB ADBLOCKER from recovery.
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Lol... Use adaway or adblocker and such pop up will be gone ... These are the new tricks from those freaking advertisement companies. They are now smart buddy. Even they can access the vibration as the pop up will come phone will get vibrate and users understand this as genuine and click on those ads . You got whatsapp pop some got browser pop up. Hope this will help u ...
Even you can flash moaAB ADBLOCKER from recovery.
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If you would've read it fully than you'll know that the case is far bigger than what you're thinking it is
Hello folks, i've been rooted for a while now and i was wondering if there is any custom recovery for the verizon v10 yet? The reason is because i messed up my google apps and i need to flash them to make the market work again. Any input would be appreciated.
As of right now no, we need the bootloader unlocked first and thats gonna be a minute. So just do a flash back to stock. Theres also a option where it won't wipe your data, instead of upgrade in the programs options just select refurbished instead ( I think, you'll have to look it up).
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Hello folks, i've been rooted for a while now and i was wondering if there is any custom recovery for the verizon v10 yet? The reason is because i messed up my google apps and i need to flash them to make the market work again. Any input would be appreciated.
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No and there's not going to be.
evolver10 said:
No and there's not going to be.
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Kind of have to agree. There is just is not a following for this phone.
I have really been considering selling this phone and getting a Moto X Pure.
Does anyone have connection with team twrp? Or the developers that usually work an help with rooted phone's recoveries?
I do, and it won't happen without a bootloader unlock.
Haxcid said:
Kind of have to agree. There is just is not a following for this phone.
I have really been considering selling this phone and getting a Moto X Pure.
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Thats what they said about root for this phone. Give it time dam*it
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Thats what they said about root for this phone. Give it time dam*it
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Good luck with that. I am sure this phone will get root and boot loader but by then I will be long onto another phone. Having used it now for a time, I really wish I went with the smaller moto x pure, I could have gotten it completely customized, and root, and roms... one handed use with this phone sucks even with the tools provided.
for half the price with performance on par...
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Good luck with that. I am sure this phone will get root and boot loader but by then I will be long onto another phone. Having used it now for a time, I really wish I went with the smaller moto x pure, I could have gotten it completely customized, and root, and roms... one handed use with this phone sucks even with the tools provided.
for half the price with performance on par...
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Also , I'm starting to see reports of the G4 boot loop of death on the V10. We live and learn I suppose. My v10 is sitting on my desk collecting dust now while I'm rocking my N6P.
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Also , I'm starting to see reports of the G4 boot loop of death on the V10. We live and learn I suppose. My v10 is sitting on my desk collecting dust now while I'm rocking my N6P.
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I'm pretty decent at fixing the G4 bootloop. It's caused by the NAND coming away from the board. Have to reflow it and pray it isn't to far gone. Sometimes it works forever sometimes just Kong enough to get data from. Sad to hear that the V10 is displaying the same issue. Haven't seen any at my shop yet but then again have only seen 3 or 4 V10s.
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I'm pretty decent at fixing the G4 bootloop. It's caused by the NAND coming away from the board. Have to reflow it and pray it isn't to far gone. Sometimes it works forever sometimes just Kong enough to get data from. Sad to hear that the V10 is displaying the same issue. Haven't seen any at my shop yet but then again have only seen 3 or 4 V10s.
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I had to warrenty my v10 due to random issues i.e. icons would be grey blocks, apps would act as if they'd been wiped. Tried doing a recovery restore from my pc and it still did it. Literally the phone was loosing it's memory.
Well I just sold my v10 so be looking for that bootloader to be unlocked soon.
So many know vulnerabilities to try, so little time... HAHA if on 5.1.1 it's possible
Long time, no post. So, I'm wondering if anyone else has been having RAM issues with their S9+? I've attached a few screenshots. My RAM fills up 1-3 times a week with 300-600MB free, and I have to reboot the device because the phone becomes so slow that it's unusable. Music playback will get choppy, the UI lags badly... A reboot fixes it.
My device is unlocked, carrier is Viaero, so no odd carrier bloatware.
I am using the stock ROM, all up to date, and stock launcher. Most of the bloatware has been disabled, including the unfortunate Bixby. I've had this phone since June and the memory leak has been a constant feature across updates. I cannot pinpoint an app that would be causing it, and using the in built device management will never show me what's hogging up memory. The tool itself will only clear 200-400MB out of RAM, and the device will faithfully fill it back in while remaining sluggish.
Does anyone have some ideas what I can do aside from resetting the device? I hate to waste several hours of my life only to be back in the same boat.
This is bad enough that I am considering seeing if my carrier will just take it back and buying a OnePlus 6T.
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Long time, no post. So, I'm wondering if anyone else has been having RAM issues with their S9+? I've attached a few screenshots. My RAM fills up 1-3 times a week with 300-600MB free, and I have to reboot the device because the phone becomes so slow that it's unusable. Music playback will get choppy, the UI lags badly... A reboot fixes it.
My device is unlocked, carrier is Viaero, so no odd carrier bloatware.
I am using the stock ROM, all up to date, and stock launcher. Most of the bloatware has been disabled, including the unfortunate Bixby. I've had this phone since June and the memory leak has been a constant feature across updates. I cannot pinpoint an app that would be causing it, and using the in built device management will never show me what's hogging up memory. The tool itself will only clear 200-400MB out of RAM, and the device will faithfully fill it back in while remaining sluggish.
Does anyone have some ideas what I can do aside from resetting the device? I hate to waste several hours of my life only to be back in the same boat.
This is bad enough that I am considering seeing if my carrier will just take it back and buying a OnePlus 6T.
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Have you looked in developer options > running services? Worth sending a screenshot of that
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Have you looked in developer options > running services? Worth sending a screenshot of that
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How do I access the Dev options on this phone?
kozad said:
How do I access the Dev options on this phone?
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About phone > software information > spam build number
Here you go. =)
kozad said:
How do I access the Dev options on this phone?
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About phone > software information > spam build number
I guess when the damn thing decides to bog down again, I'll pop into this, or try to at least, and see what Samsung's malfunction is - I'll post a screenshot of it as well.
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Here you go. =)
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Nothing stands out on that, but it is saying you've got 2gb free. Have a look again when it slows down?
The one app that really made my phone choppy was Snapchat when its running in the background as it's so badly coded
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I guess when the damn thing decides to bog down again, I'll pop into this, or try to at least, and see what Samsung's malfunction is - I'll post a screenshot of it as well.
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Actually check your cached processes as well see if there's anything big in there
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Actually check your cached processes as well see if there's anything big in there
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I'm trying - the damn thing refreshes constantly, so you'll see duplicates in these.
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I'm trying - the damn thing refreshes constantly, so you'll see duplicates in these.
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Still looks like you've got plenty of ram free. I'd suggest getting something like simple system monitor and check it whenever you get lags
Also when you factory reset did you install from fresh or restore your apps?
I just want to chime in and say that I have this EXACT same issue. It the issue first began to occur back in an August 2018 update; the issue started every 3 days and now it is every single day I have to reboot. Once the ram gets down to 2-300 MB available, the system just tanks and becomes extremely sluggish, laggy and unusable - not to mention HOT.
I have tried uninstalling apps, googling fixes that other similar users experience... no fix. However, the more and more I read about the issue, I am beginning to believe we may have a botched firmware update or something, but definitely something bad on Samsung's end - and a memory leak sounds very plausible.
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Still looks like you've got plenty of ram free. I'd suggest getting something like simple system monitor and check it whenever you get lags
Also when you factory reset did you install from fresh or restore your apps?
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Never bothered doing a restore - it takes forever to get everything re-installed.
And yes, memory was fine at time of screens, I will take some more and post them here when the phone bogs down again. =)
I want to say I was having a similar problem. I have an unlocked s9+ on Sprint. Running stock (no root of course), applied the hotspot hack, disable bixby, disabled most Samsung apps that I could run Google's alternatives (including Pixel launcher), bxactions for torch. I would get the slow down every 1-2 days requiring a restart. I've since did a factory reset and only applied the hotspot app and hid the Samsung apps in a folder that I downloaded Google alternatives for instead of disabling them with SAC. I can say that I've only had one slow down that eventually resolved itself after about 10 seconds not requiring a restart. It's been over a week and it looks promising.
I have the unlocked international version. The phone slowed to a crawl once and I uninstalled some apps I wasn't using. Can't remember which but the lag disappeared.
I really think theres something wrong with these phones, whether it be a specific batch of hardware or software or both.
Another case with the exact same problem.
https://forums.androidcentral.com/s...ystem-apps-usage-over-4gb-no-recent-apps.html
Happening again right now. Nothing is jumping out at me. Got screenshots here. Dipping down to 230MB, up to 480. Lots of lag, phone is very sluggish.
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Happening again right now. Nothing is jumping out at me. Got screenshots here. Dipping down to 230MB, up to 480. Lots of lag, phone is very sluggish.
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Nothing looks untoward in there, might be worth going in cached again as that's where most of the RAM is being taken (note that list doesn't add up to the amount being used) . The other consideration is that low 'free RAM' isn't necessarily a bad thing, it just means it's being utilised. (Cached processes should be automatically closed down if more RAM is required) It's likely that a rogue app is hogging a processor (I find Snapchat makes my phone very laggy as it's poorly coded). If you can't find anything untoward I'd recommend doing a reset and manually restoring. Appreciate it's a pain but not sure what else you can do. If it persists then take it back to Samsung
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Nothing looks untoward in there, might be worth going in cached again as that's where most of the RAM is being taken (note that list doesn't add up to the amount being used) . The other consideration is that low 'free RAM' isn't necessarily a bad thing, it just means it's being utilised. (Cached processes should be automatically closed down if more RAM is required) It's likely that a rogue app is hogging a processor (I find Snapchat makes my phone very laggy as it's poorly coded). If you can't find anything untoward I'd recommend doing a reset and manually restoring. Appreciate it's a pain but not sure what else you can do. If it persists then take it back to Samsung
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Typically my phone will have anywhere between 1.1 and 2GB free. I check it periodically because of the slowdowns, and it only gets that low when the phone bogs down. it's the same on my desktop computer, when my Ram gets really low the computer comes to a crawl, so it just seems to be something emblematic of technology in general.
Also, screenshots of cached are in the mix with these other screenshots. the phone was so slow while I was trying to scroll down the list of cached apps, the list would just completely go blank and then repopulate with a different apps. ?
And I do not use Snapchat, but I've heard that complaint often about the Android version of the app.
Sadly I cannot take it back to Samsung, I did not buy it from them. I am making payments to my carrier for the phone and they refuse to simply let me relinquish the device.
When I get time off of work, I will probably go ahead and do the restore, although I would much rather just smash the phone on the ground and stomp on it until there's nothing left that can't be vacuumed up. That honestly sounds like a more productive waste of time to me. ?
After this experience, I will probably just go ahead and cough up the $800 to pay this darn thing off and throw it on eBay for $500 or whatever it is they are going for these days. I feel very burnt by Samsung and my carrier as well.
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Typically my phone will have anywhere between 1.1 and 2GB free. I check it periodically because of the slowdowns, and it only gets that low when the phone bogs down. it's the same on my desktop computer, when my Ram gets really low the computer comes to a crawl, so it just seems to be something emblematic of technology in general.
Also, screenshots of cached are in the mix with these other screenshots. the phone was so slow while I was trying to scroll down the list of cached apps, the list would just completely go blank and then repopulate with a different apps. ?
And I do not use Snapchat, but I've heard that complaint often about the Android version of the app.
Sadly I cannot take it back to Samsung, I did not buy it from them. I am making payments to my carrier for the phone and they refuse to simply let me relinquish the device.
When I get time off of work, I will probably go ahead and do the restore, although I would much rather just smash the phone on the ground and stomp on it until there's nothing left that can't be vacuumed up. That honestly sounds like a more productive waste of time to me. ?
After this experience, I will probably just go ahead and cough up the $800 to pay this darn thing off and throw it on eBay for $500 or whatever it is they are going for these days. I feel very burnt by Samsung and my carrier as well.
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Can you not do scroll capture to get everything?
Yea Snapchat won't be the only rogue app, that's why I suggest getting an app that can monitor your processor usage.
So I'm in the UK - don't know how US warranty laws work but i would assume there is a year's manafacturer warranty were they have to look at your phone within a certain period regardless of the carrier? Between them and your carrier I'm sure you'd be covered if there is something wrong with the phone that's not your fault? (I'm ignorant of US contract law so might be wrong, I'll have a Google when I get a second )
Samsung UK have actually been quite good to me so it's worth giving the US guys a call!
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Is that an app?
Also. I will need to look into the warranty process. If I have to mail the phone off, I'll still need to buy a new phone because I'll die of boredom at work without one.
Hi,
I, like many others, got forced onto Android 11. I have a lot of problems with it. With or without root. The most annoying of which is the wifi aggressively dropping/changing. Bluetooth failures. Volume drops that don't return to normal, forcing a reboot to fix. Clock and background/screen saver problems. System UI crashing. Keyboard freezing and lagging on certain sites with textareas. I used my phone without root for a couple days after the forced upgrade and all of these issues were present with or without magisk modules.
I'm interested in going back to Android 10 and blocking the a11 OTA in Hosts.
I'd like to get some help with a couple things. I'd like to make a FULL flashable backup of my current device as is. Just in case I mess something up, I can get back to this current state as worst case, very easily. Do I use the MSM tool and copy something? Do I boot twrp and push something over? Please advise the safe and smart way to get right back to a 1:1 of current install. I want to be very sure about this part.
After I know which way I can safely get back to current state, can I use the MSM tool to wipe and flash an older build of Android 10? Or is it a problem after being on 11 because of some restrictions (partitions, RO, twrp no mount) somewhere?
If I can get back to an older build of Android 10, I have a couple options (grayhat and httpcanary) to monitor the traffic to see what we need to block in Hosts for sure.
I'm open to other suggestions also. Someone in the root thread said they proactively tried to disable some services around update and it was still forced on them.
OnePlus 7T Pro 5G McLaren TMobile
Android 11.0.1.2HD61B
(Carrier unlocked, bootloader unlocked, magisk root)
Thanks for any help
Disable the T-mobile update app or ask them to disable it on their end, they can.
Backup all critical data by direct file transfer and verify... just in case.
There's no way to do a full nandroid backup, e.g. restoring things exactly back to how they are now. Best you can do is use the app Swift Backup to backup app data/settings along with Google's backup and OP's backup app.
As for OOS11, have you tried resetting back to stock (factory reset while running OOS11)? Chances are you just have some leftover things from OOS10 that didn't play well with the upgrade. So before you abandon OOS11, try that first (factory reset from stock recovery). Make sure you've copied any backups to your PC first. If the issues come back after restoring your backup from Swift Backup or from Google or OP, then you need to find out exactly what app(s) are causing issue or just start from scratch.
As for the MSM Tool, it will restore you back to OOS10 just fine on its own.
Lastly, the OTA updates are downloaded from https://android.googleapis.com
For example, the url for the latest OTA to go from latest version of OOS10 (10.0.43) to first version of OOS11 (11.0.1.2) was
https://android.googleapis.com/packages/ota-api/package/45ba72b0b2f7c643a09d2d0875459cd01b8db998.zip
I pulled that from the update log. So blocking
https://android.googleapis.com/packages/ota-api/*/
in AdBlock or other hosts file app should do the trick. It may still see an update available, but it will definitely continue to fail when trying to download it.
But try OOS11 clean (after a factory reset). I bet all your problems will go away. I have exact same phone, not a single issue on OOS11, bootloader unlocked, latest version of Magisk.
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There's no way to do a full nandroid backup, e.g. restoring things exactly back to how they are now. Best you can do is use the app Swift Backup to backup app data/settings along with Google's backup and OP's backup app.
As for OOS11, have you tried resetting back to stock (factory reset while running OOS11)? Chances are you just have some leftover things from OOS10 that didn't play well with the upgrade. So before you abandon OOS11, try that first (factory reset from stock recovery). Make sure you've copied any backups to your PC first. If the issues come back after restoring your backup from Swift Backup or from Google or OP, then you need to find out exactly what app(s) are causing issue or just start from scratch.
As for the MSM Tool, it will restore you back to OOS10 just fine on its own.
Lastly, the OTA updates are downloaded from https://android.googleapis.com
For example, the url for the latest OTA to go from latest version of OOS10 (10.0.43) to first version of OOS11 (11.0.1.2) was
https://android.googleapis.com/packages/ota-api/package/45ba72b0b2f7c643a09d2d0875459cd01b8db998.zip
I pulled that from the update log. So blocking
https://android.googleapis.com/packages/ota-api/*/
in AdBlock or other hosts file app should do the trick. It may still see an update available, but it will definitely continue to fail when trying to download it.
But try OOS11 clean (after a factory reset). I bet all your problems will go away. I have exact same phone, not a single issue on OOS11, bootloader unlocked, latest version of Magisk.
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Thanks so much for the detailed reply.
My main reason for rooting my phone is to have full speed tethering. If that worked, I would try a reset. Since it doesn't, it's a good excuse to go back to 10 on its own for me.
No simple method for a full nandroid backup is going to slow me down. I need to go thru my apps and make sure I don't forget about anything important for a reset or a downgrade.
Do you have any hypothesis on why they forced Android 11 so hard?
During the time I wrote this message, my wifi switched networks a half dozen times. When this first started after the force to a11, I thought it was strange because I wasn't rooted and any modules shouldn't have been affecting anything. They're only added props (for the tethering module anyway). I don't have the Qualcomm crash others are reporting but maybe something in the new settings are related and causing both problems, theirs and mine.
Do you have multiple APs within reach of your phone? I've tried to disable/enable different connection options in the wifi settings and handoff settings. Nothing seems to help. It wants to drop me off my AP to any closer AP, constantly. Which is particularly annoying because I'm constantly in ssh sessions and that closes them. I can avoid that somewhat by forgetting the other APs near me so it tries to stay connected to just one but I shouldn't have to do that. I never had an issue before the update. In fact, I was actually really happy with how stable Android 10 was for our device.
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Thanks so much for the detailed reply.
My main reason for rooting my phone is to have full speed tethering. If that worked, I would try a reset. Since it doesn't, it's a good excuse to go back to 10 on its own for me.
No simple method for a full nandroid backup is going to slow me down. I need to go thru my apps and make sure I don't forget about anything important for a reset or a downgrade.
Do you have any hypothesis on why they forced Android 11 so hard?
During the time I wrote this message, my wifi switched networks a half dozen times. When this first started after the force to a11, I thought it was strange because I wasn't rooted and any modules shouldn't have been affecting anything. They're only added props (for the tethering module anyway). I don't have the Qualcomm crash others are reporting but maybe something in the new settings are related and causing both problems, theirs and mine.
Do you have multiple APs within reach of your phone? I've tried to disable/enable different connection options in the wifi settings and handoff settings. Nothing seems to help. It wants to drop me off my AP to any closer AP, constantly. Which is particularly annoying because I'm constantly in ssh sessions and that closes them. I can avoid that somewhat by forgetting the other APs near me so it tries to stay connected to just one but I shouldn't have to do that. I never had an issue before the update. In fact, I was actually really happy with how stable Android 10 was for our device.
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Honestly I can't help. OOS11 made my phone even better than it ever has been. No exaggeration. And not a single bug or even issue. They probably saw the same results on their test phones and pushed it really hard because they knew people had been waiting a very long time for it.
That's why I really think you have some trash left behind from your OOS10 install that made the upgrade to OOS11 go crazy. Once you get your backups done, please try a factory reset on OOS11 and don't restore any Google or other backups and just see if you have any issues. It could all be due simply to needing a "fresh install"
Edit: As for high speed tethering, is that accomplished with a Magisk module? If so, it probably needs the tiniest change in directory names/path to be compatible with OOS11, just like the boot and shutdown animation modules
Edit2: And yes, my phone can see at least 15 APs while at home. Never have any trouble connecting via 802.11ac on 2.4 or 5ghz at home, and never had any trouble with other random hotspots.
You've got some OOS10 settings/junk/leftovers interfering with OOS11. Not trying to sound like an idiot TMobile tech, but in this case you do need to factory reset and I bet all issues go away.
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Honestly I can't help. OOS11 made my phone even better than it ever has been. No exaggeration. And not a single bug or even issue. They probably saw the same results on their test phones and pushed it really hard because they knew people had been waiting a very long time for it.
That's why I really think you have some trash left behind from your OOS10 install that made the upgrade to OOS11 go crazy. Once you get your backups done, please try a factory reset on OOS11 and don't restore any Google or other backups and just see if you have any issues. It could all be due simply to needing a "fresh install"
Edit: As for high speed tethering, is that accomplished with a Magisk module? If so, it probably needs the tiniest change in directory names/path to be compatible with OOS11, just like the boot and shutdown animation modules
Edit2: And yes, my phone can see at least 15 APs while at home. Never have any trouble connecting via 802.11ac on 2.4 or 5ghz at home, and never had any trouble with other random hotspots.
You've got some OOS10 settings/junk/leftovers interfering with OOS11. Not trying to sound like an idiot TMobile tech, but in this case you do need to factory reset and I bet all issues go away.
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I believe you. I don't think you sound like the robot techs either. Yes, it can be accomplished with a magisk module. Which I first tried to edit like the animation modules. When that was unsuccessful, I did it manually by creating/editing props. The tethering provision and dun props. I even tried them in combination with another apn using only ipv4.
Some other phones report the module still working in Android 11 so I was hopeful it was just a path adjustment or that manual would work. It's still likely it could be done but I have to balance how long someone with more experience to bring a solution might take, with how long I can get by with this 600kbps throttle. I have kids and having internet (capable of YouTube, 600kbps doesn't cut it, especially on multiple devices) available for long car rides is really helpful after they're tired of playing Eye-Spy
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I believe you. I don't think you sound like the robot techs either. Yes, it can be accomplished with a magisk module. Which I first tried to edit like the animation modules. When that was unsuccessful, I did it manually by creating/editing props. The tethering provision and dun props. I even tried them in combination with another apn using only ipv4.
Some other phones report the module still working in Android 11 so I was hopeful it was just a path adjustment or that manual would work. It's still likely it could be done but I have to balance how long someone with more experience to bring a solution might take, with how long I can get by with this 600kbps throttle. I have kids and having internet (capable of YouTube, 600kbps doesn't cut it, especially on multiple devices) available for long car rides is really helpful after they're tired of playing Eye-Spy
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Post the Magisk module for high-speed tethering and I'll take a look at it. It'll either be really simple to get it working on OOS11...or not lol.
All credit to the authors and yadda yadda.
There's another one floating around.
In this one, I changed it to be /product/ but didn't have success.
If you do have success on a11 with it, that'd be cool. I can find out if a reset will clear up these other issues I have or not
Hello everyone, I'm in a similar situation though I was wondering if it might be a different problem.
So I bought a 7TPro Mclaren off Ebay and for the last year, it's worked fine. the phone came factory unlocked, with zero issues connecting to Telus (my Canadian provider). Last month my phone force-updated itself to android 11, and nothing but bad things have happened since. screen frame-rate tanks randomly, apps are slow, battery's tanked, the works.
After resetting the cache 3 or 4 times and still having issues, I reset the phone to factory, stock settings, but the phone still performs poorly Maybe because I re-added all my apps and pictures via Oneplus backup? either way, I'm very fed up with how the phone has been especially the battery, so I've been looking into downgrading back to Android 10, but it seems that the Tmobile variant has trouble doing that (i.e. no simple menu option).
Should I try downgrading to Android 10 again and not bothering with a backup? I don't have too much to lose as of right now so I don't mind resetting it again, but if restoring all my pictures via backup is what's causing the issue I'm willing to do that. Should I make another Oneplus backup before I do this, or should I back up the data to my PC first? I find it very irritating that T-mobile forced this update so I will try and block the upgrade in my hosts but I'm worried that won't work because I don't plan to root my phone and block the hosts files.
Any tips or help would be appreciated!
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Hello everyone, I'm in a similar situation though I was wondering if it might be a different problem.
So I bought a 7TPro Mclaren off Ebay and for the last year, it's worked fine. the phone came factory unlocked, with zero issues connecting to Telus (my Canadian provider). Last month my phone force-updated itself to android 11, and nothing but bad things have happened since. screen frame-rate tanks randomly, apps are slow, battery's tanked, the works.
After resetting the cache 3 or 4 times and still having issues, I reset the phone to factory, stock settings, but the phone still performs poorly Maybe because I re-added all my apps and pictures via Oneplus backup? either way, I'm very fed up with how the phone has been especially the battery, so I've been looking into downgrading back to Android 10, but it seems that the Tmobile variant has trouble doing that (i.e. no simple menu option).
Should I try downgrading to Android 10 again and not bothering with a backup? I don't have too much to lose as of right now so I don't mind resetting it again, but if restoring all my pictures via backup is what's causing the issue I'm willing to do that. Should I make another Oneplus backup before I do this, or should I back up the data to my PC first? I find it very irritating that T-mobile forced this update so I will try and block the upgrade in my hosts but I'm worried that won't work because I don't plan to root my phone and block the hosts files.
Any tips or help would be appreciated!
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Sorry to hear that.
Do fresh installs for the apps.
Do direct file transfers to/from the PC for all other critical data. "Restore it all" apps can fail miserably and are hard to verify the data they supposedly stored.
11 is a mess but this might help... or not.
DhoomLard said:
Hello everyone, I'm in a similar situation though I was wondering if it might be a different problem.
So I bought a 7TPro Mclaren off Ebay and for the last year, it's worked fine. the phone came factory unlocked, with zero issues connecting to Telus (my Canadian provider). Last month my phone force-updated itself to android 11, and nothing but bad things have happened since. screen frame-rate tanks randomly, apps are slow, battery's tanked, the works.
After resetting the cache 3 or 4 times and still having issues, I reset the phone to factory, stock settings, but the phone still performs poorly Maybe because I re-added all my apps and pictures via Oneplus backup? either way, I'm very fed up with how the phone has been especially the battery, so I've been looking into downgrading back to Android 10, but it seems that the Tmobile variant has trouble doing that (i.e. no simple menu option).
Should I try downgrading to Android 10 again and not bothering with a backup? I don't have too much to lose as of right now so I don't mind resetting it again, but if restoring all my pictures via backup is what's causing the issue I'm willing to do that. Should I make another Oneplus backup before I do this, or should I back up the data to my PC first? I find it very irritating that T-mobile forced this update so I will try and block the upgrade in my hosts but I'm worried that won't work because I don't plan to root my phone and block the hosts files.
Any tips or help would be appreciated!
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Try another factory reset on OOS11 but don't restore any backups including Google app backups and see if problem still persists. Don't even bother logging in with your Google account at first. Just see if issues are fixed.
Morning b4 coffee rant:. I'm so tired of hearing this, TMobile/OnePlus didn't "force update" anyone's phones any more so than Google or any other manufacturer. This is my first OnePlus phone, probably will be the last because of all the serious quirks in rooting and just horrible software engineering by OnePlus and I want to throw it thru the window sometimes, but that's half from me screwing with it lol. Anyway, so I'm not OnePlus's biggest fan, but they didn't do crazy by releasing OOS11. That's how updates work...People had been (rightfully) been expecting it for a long time. And I don't have a single issue with it.
My battery life is much worse also. I blame it on the constant/aggressive wifi changes.
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Try another factory reset on OOS11 but don't restore any backups including Google app backups and see if problem still persists. Don't even bother logging in with your Google account at first. Just see if issues are fixed.
Morning b4 coffee rant:. I'm so tired of hearing this, TMobile/OnePlus didn't "force update" anyone's phones any more so than Google or any other manufacturer. This is my first OnePlus phone, probably will be the last because of all the serious quirks in rooting and just horrible software engineering by OnePlus and I want to throw it thru the window sometimes, but that's half from me screwing with it lol. Anyway, so I'm not OnePlus's biggest fan, but they didn't do crazy by releasing OOS11. That's how updates work...People had been (rightfully) been expecting it for a long time. And I don't have a single issue with it.
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They did force the update. There was no further postponement available. It's not cool that we have to jump thru hoops to take an OTA but the full version upgrade ignores root woes and forces itself to install. I don't mind jumping the hoops, so long as it's consistent.
I've never had this force update issue on any previous device. I've been able to ignore it indefinitely, and if rooted, need to do a manual intervention to take the OTA. I was in the middle of doing something when my phone shut down and installed a11.
This isn't my first OnePlus device. It is my first carrier tied/coupled OnePlus device. And will definitely be my last carrier coupled phone. I want to give OnePlus another chance. I had the 8 Pro and it was lackluster to say the least. I found a great medium with this device. It offered similar specs, 5G, good build quality at a reasonable price.
It may be true that other manufacturers force updates on some devices but it wasn't true for me with the Nexus or Pixel phones I had. Or my previous OnePlus device (5T/8P).
A lot of us are intentionally choosing OnePlus for the root and ubl friendliness with good specs.
I don't think anyone is saying A11 shouldn't be offered, it should be of course. It just shouldn't be forced and the safety net we thought we had to prevent that, was also swallowed up.
Give OnePlus another chance, this phone is not the typical OnePlus experience I've come to love. Or maybe this is the new OnePlus... I'm gonna give them another shot.
As a side note to this, my wife wanted the Samsung s21, coming from a OnePlus device. She is very disappointed with the s21 in just about every aspect other than the picture quality. Oppo and OnePlus are merging, I'm not even sure where to go after OnePlus
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My battery life is much worse also. I blame it on the constant/aggressive wifi changes.
They did force the update. There was no further postponement available. It's not cool that we have to jump thru hoops to take an OTA but the full version upgrade ignores root woes and forces itself to install. I don't mind jumping the hoops, so long as it's consistent.
I've never had this force update issue on any previous device. I've been able to ignore it indefinitely, and if rooted, need to do a manual intervention to take the OTA. I was in the middle of doing something when my phone shut down and installed a11.
This isn't my first OnePlus device. It is my first carrier tied/coupled OnePlus device. And will definitely be my last carrier coupled phone. I want to give OnePlus another chance. I had the 8 Pro and it was lackluster to say the least. I found a great medium with this device. It offered similar specs, 5G, good build quality at a reasonable price.
It may be true that other manufacturers force updates on some devices but it wasn't true for me with the Nexus or Pixel phones I had. Or my previous OnePlus device (5T/8P).
A lot of us are intentionally choosing OnePlus for the root and ubl friendliness with good specs.
I don't think anyone is saying A11 shouldn't be offered, it should be of course. It just shouldn't be forced and the safety net we thought we had to prevent that, was also swallowed up.
Give OnePlus another chance, this phone is not the typical OnePlus experience I've come to love. Or maybe this is the new OnePlus... I'm gonna give them another shot.
As a side note to this, my wife wanted the Samsung s21, coming from a OnePlus device. She is very disappointed with the s21 in just about every aspect other than the picture quality. Oppo and OnePlus are merging, I'm not even sure where to go after OnePlus
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You can block OTA a couple different ways. I've done it for over 5 years with AT&T, no root needed.
My 10+ is still running happily on Pie.
Appreciative said:
A lot of us are intentionally choosing OnePlus for the root and ubl friendliness with good specs.
Oppo and OnePlus are merging, I'm not even sure where to go after OnePlus
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Xiaomi/Redmi/Poco meets the root and ubl friendliness. In some countries, they still have warranty coverage after unlock bootloader.
Good specs or not is vague between different phones.
Check XDA Xiaomi category and see the reply and thread count. It's to some point a sign of better price to the specs.
Use GSMarena to compare the spec.
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Give OnePlus another chance, this phone is not the typical OnePlus experience I've come to love. Or maybe this is the new OnePlus... I'm gonna give them another shot.
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Sadly, OnePlus hasn't been typical OnePlus in well over a year. Look how slow updates are now even for their latest non-carrier flagships beginning around 7T time (and can start to be seen as early as the 6T).
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As a side note to this, my wife wanted the Samsung s21, coming from a OnePlus device. She is very disappointed with the s21 in just about every aspect other than the picture quality. Oppo and OnePlus are merging, I'm not even sure where to go after OnePlus
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Oppo and OnePlus are merging, like you said, so won't they still continue producing flagship phones at a manic rate, like Samsung? At least Samsung has gotten much better with the speed of OTA updates, while OnePlus has tanked.
We're guaranteed Android 12 for our phones. Let's see how long it takes for us to get it, probably more than a year after I make this post. The 6T is still waiting for OOS11.
To be honest, receiving the 8 Pro was disappointing. I had the pixel 2xl and it's the only thing I've returned in a decade. I got the 5T for half the price and couldn't believe how amazing that phone was. It's still alive and crack free. I put it through a lot.
Getting the 8 Pro, I knew it was $1k but I expected a lot. I was disappointed. I liked it but not $1k-liked-it. And I realized then, that maybe OnePlus had already ended their founding principles. I was most disappointed that nothing about the 8P was pushing the envelope. The 5T was breaking the envelope and the 6 was doing big moves with giant storage and ufs3 speed. After that, partially because of how well the 5T was made, I didn't follow what they were doing. I didn't need to. Now we are at OP9 and you may be right that 'that oneplus' isn't here anymore.
I did look at some oppo devices. I knew that's the parent/sister company to OnePlus and would find similar features. It just worked out that the 7T Pro 5G dropped right after I got the 8P and I traded back.
I guess I got spoiled
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To be honest, receiving the 8 Pro was disappointing. I had the pixel 2xl and it's the only thing I've returned in a decade. I got the 5T for half the price and couldn't believe how amazing that phone was. It's still alive and crack free. I put it through a lot.
Getting the 8 Pro, I knew it was $1k but I expected a lot. I was disappointed. I liked it but not $1k-liked-it. And I realized then, that maybe OnePlus had already ended their founding principles. I was most disappointed that nothing about the 8P was pushing the envelope. The 5T was breaking the envelope and the 6 was doing big moves with giant storage and ufs3 speed. After that, partially because of how well the 5T was made, I didn't follow what they were doing. I didn't need to. Now we are at OP9 and you may be right that 'that oneplus' isn't here anymore.
I did look at some oppo devices. I knew that's the parent/sister company to OnePlus and would find similar features. It just worked out that the 7T Pro 5G dropped right after I got the 8P and I traded back.
I guess I got spoiled
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That's one reason I got this phone, OnePlus's prices are thru the roof. And no, I don't want any Nord crap. I want a flagship phone at a reasonable price. Got my 7T Pro 5G Mclaren for $500 brand new from eBay the day after the OP8/Pro launched. I just couldn't justify spending $1000 on a phone and I never will.