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Can anyone confirm that it's not just me? M5 8.4 inch UK model (normally using Nova launcher) set display view mode to small (in order for some apps to see this as a tablet not phone) and on rotation to landscape the navigation bar/buttons disappear.
(Leaving on default and the navbar stays at the side on rotation - though I'd prefer it on the bottom.)
Using developer options to set dpi to 680 makes the navbar appear but with only the home button showing.
Huawei support suggest a factory reset, which I've already done to enforce the DRM change in the recent update, so doubt it would make any difference.
Surely is not just my tablet?
Armpowered said:
Can anyone confirm that it's not just me? M5 8.4 inch UK model (normally using Nova launcher) set display view mode to small (in order for some apps to see this as a tablet not phone) and on rotation to landscape the navigation bar/buttons disappear.
(Leaving on default and the navbar stays at the side on rotation - though I'd prefer it on the bottom.)
Using developer options to set dpi to 680 makes the navbar appear but with only the home button showing.
Huawei support suggest a factory reset, which I've already done to enforce the DRM change in the recent update, so doubt it would make any difference.
Surely is not just my tablet?
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me too, the support told me to wait a future update...
I had what sounds like a somewhat similar issue using Nova Launcher and the 10 inch model. In landscape mode the nova dock would stay vertical on the right side instead of moving to the bottom, even if the screen orientation was set to auto-rotate in the nova settings / look and feel.
It was fixed by simply changing the View Mode setting to small in Settings / Display. Didn't have to mess with DPI manually or anything. With the View Mode to small I don't have any problems with the dock or the navigation bar.
skarce said:
me too, the support told me to wait a future update...
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Thanks, it's good to know that it's a general issue with the tablet.
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In landscape mode the nova dock would stay vertical on the right side instead of moving to the bottom, even if the screen orientation was set to auto-rotate in the nova settings / look and feel.
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This is probably just a side effect of the default DPI value, Nova treats the tablet as a phone, where it's normal to have the navbar on the side when in landscape. Switching display mode moves to a more compact DPI setting. Good to know that the navbar works, it suggests it's just an issue with the 8.4 that should get fixed.
For those annoyed by this, just wanted to mention that Ultimate Dynamic Navbar works, at least partially, if you are rooted (maybe even if you aren't). It's a navbar replacement that is fully customizable, fully collapsible, and will rotate with the device.
For me, I can't map home/recents/back functions to the softkeys - but a.) I haven't experimented, b.) the UDN softkeys can still be used to launch custom apps and for various other functions like switching to the "previous app," c.) the UDN navbar can be used in conjunction with your existing navbar setup, and d.) it's a lightweight app that is fully collapsible, so you have little to lose by installing it.
Known issue
This youtuber describes this exact issue amongst other issues:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qef...b3uy2lez3h4b2rhtpst1w03c010c.1526416319255488
Now fixed (at least partly) with firmware 8.0.0.151. When display size is set to small, the nav bar now stays visible on the short side, though I'd prefer it on the long side. Not a complete fix, in that when changing DPI in developer settings, it just shows the single home button on the long side.
The device offers you the option to use the fingerprint button for navigation. You can find the option at system settings / navigation
All you have to do is install this app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.home.button.bottom and set it up. Even survives a reboot. Only thing is you push it, not slide up. All other gestures stay the same.
justinswidebody said:
All you have to do is install this app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.home.button.bottom and set it up. Even survives a reboot. Only thing is you push it, not slide up. All other gestures stay the same.
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Hi Justin, thanks so much for all the help so far on this forum. But whole installing this app you suggested, I might have stumbled into a native fix for the "third party launched breaks swiping home button" thing.
Like you, I went into adb and deleted stock Oppo launcher in favor of a custom one (I'm using nova), and I too encountered the swipe home button problem where the phoje just goes to this greyed out screen. But while fiddling with the navigation settings, I chose the other swiping method (the one where you DON'T swipe up and hold to bring up multi task), aka #4 "back to the left" option. And after choosing that, my swipe navigations work normally even when running nova. Home swipe works fine.
Maybe the bug is just for the "back at both sides" swiping options?
radioraheem2 said:
Hi Justin, thanks so much for all the help so far on this forum. But whole installing this app you suggested, I might have stumbled into a native fix for the "third party launched breaks swiping home button" thing.
Like you, I went into adb and deleted stock Oppo launcher in favor of a custom one (I'm using nova), and I too encountered the swipe home button problem where the phoje just goes to this greyed out screen. But while fiddling with the navigation settings, I chose the other swiping method (the one where you DON'T swipe up and hold to bring up multi task), aka #4 "back to the left" option. And after choosing that, my swipe navigations work normally even when running nova. Home swipe works fine.
Maybe the bug is just for the "back at both sides" swiping options?
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Thanks a lot for that. Makes everything so much better.
You are the hero dude!
Hi, I have changed my default launcher without using an app, or using adb to remove the default launcher.
After installing the launcher, I've gone to settings, app management, default app management. The option to change my default launcher is there.
All the gesture options, and navigation buttons work, with no black screens or anything. I'm pretty chuffed.
Thanks
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Hi, I have changed my default launcher without using an app, or using adb to remove the default launcher.
After installing the launcher, I've gone to settings, app management, default app management. The option to change my default launcher is there.
All the gesture options, and navigation buttons work, with no black screens or anything. I'm pretty chuffed.
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That's only available for the global model us fools who purchased the Chinese model are screwed and we cannot change this in settings.
How do you change the type of gesture navigation, I can't find those settings
How?
"Hi Justin, thanks so much for all the help so far on this forum. But whole installing this app you suggested, I might have stumbled into a native fix for the "third party launched breaks swiping home button" thing.
Like you, I went into adb and deleted stock Oppo launcher in favor of a custom one (I'm using nova), and I too encountered the swipe home button problem where the phoje just goes to this greyed out screen. But while fiddling with the navigation settings, I chose the other swiping method (the one where you DON'T swipe up and hold to bring up multi task), aka #4 "back to the left" option. And after choosing that, my swipe navigations work normally even when running nova. Home swipe works fine.
Maybe the bug is just for the "back at both sides" swiping options?"
How do you do this?
Hey guys, is there any way to customize the navigation swipe gesture areas in One UI? I love the new recent apps gesture with the smooth animation, but I would like that the entire bottom area was used to do the recent apps gesture, killing the back and home gestures. As I use the FNG app for side gestures, using the bottom gesture only for recent apps would be great!
I know, without root, this may be impossible, but maybe substratum could do some tricks...?!
I use FNG for everything. Bottom left half does recent apps, bottom right half does home.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/s10-plus/themes/fluid-navigation-gestures-s10-t3905933/post79177687
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I use FNG for everything. Bottom left half does recent apps, bottom right half does home.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/s10-plus/themes/fluid-navigation-gestures-s10-t3905933/post79177687
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I see that, and it's amazing. But, unfortunately, it has no transition animation like the native navigation gesture. =/
I'm a little confused on what you mean...
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I'm a little confused on what you mean...
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I mean that, on One UI, when you enable the native navigation gestures, you can swipe to open the recent apps screen, and as you swipe up, the app follows your finger, giving us a sweet animation, just like the Xiaomi, iOS and others. But the area to swipe to recent apps doesn't fill the entire bottom area of the Galaxy S10, so there's other gestures to the back button and home button. What I would like to know is, if there's any trick to remove the back and home swipe gestures, and fill the whole bottom area to the recent apps gesture only, like iOS and Xiaomi.
FNG act as a "click", so as soon as you do the gesture, it opens the recent apps screen, without that animation that follows your finger as you swipe.
Sorry if I'm not being clear, I'm working on my English yet. =/
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I mean that, on One UI, when you enable the native navigation gestures, you can swipe to open the recent apps screen, and as you swipe up, the app follows your finger, giving us a sweet animation, just like the Xiaomi, iOS and others. But the area to swipe to recent apps doesn't fill the entire bottom area of the Galaxy S10, so there's other gestures to the back button and home button. What I would like to know is, if there's any trick to remove the back and home swipe gestures, and fill the whole bottom area to the recent apps gesture only, like iOS and Xiaomi.
FNG act as a "click", so as soon as you do the gesture, it opens the recent apps screen, without that animation that follows your finger as you swipe.
Sorry if I'm not being clear, I'm working on my English yet. =/
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Ah, I think I know what you're saying. Unfortunately I am unsure of how to have the animation follow similar to stock navigation gestures using anything other than the baked in version Samsung gave.
And it's not your English, I'm just a little slow at times, haha.
Is anyone else having trouble using gestures with third party launchers? For me, they work just fine and then after some time it reverts to buttons and I get the message "System navigation updated. To make changes, go to settings".
Searching around, it seems like people on other phones don't have this problem anymore.
On a different note, I started using fluid navigation gestures (FNG) and I preferred that since I could add more gestures. Problem is if I'm plugged into the dual screen case and I turn off the dual screen - either by turning the screen behind the phone or manually turning it off - and use the notification shade, then the buttons come back and hide and FNG is disabled until I start using the dual screen again.
Anyone have any solutions?
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Is anyone else having trouble using gestures with third party launchers? For me, they work just fine and then after some time it reverts to buttons and I get the message "System navigation updated. To make changes, go to settings".
Searching around, it seems like people on other phones don't have this problem anymore.
On a different note, I started using fluid navigation gestures (FNG) and I preferred that since I could add more gestures. Problem is if I'm plugged into the dual screen case and I turn off the dual screen - either by turning the screen behind the phone or manually turning it off - and use the notification shade, then the buttons come back and hide and FNG is disabled until I start using the dual screen again.
Anyone have any solutions?
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Same annoying issue! I think it happens every time Nova gets restarted but not sure on that. I've searched for a resolution too and can't find one. I tried creating a tasker profile to make it easier to switch back to gestures via a quick setting but it doesn't work. The secure setting to change is navigation_mode value of 2.
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Is anyone else having trouble using gestures with third party launchers? For me, they work just fine and then after some time it reverts to buttons and I get the message "System navigation updated. To make changes, go to settings".
Searching around, it seems like people on other phones don't have this problem anymore.
On a different note, I started using fluid navigation gestures (FNG) and I preferred that since I could add more gestures. Problem is if I'm plugged into the dual screen case and I turn off the dual screen - either by turning the screen behind the phone or manually turning it off - and use the notification shade, then the buttons come back and hide and FNG is disabled until I start using the dual screen again.
Anyone have any solutions?
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Nova shows you an explanation right on the settings page of the problem. Google has not made gestures 100% compatible with 3rd party launchers and there is nothing devs can do until Google gives them what they need
Yes, I've seen that message. I've also seen that Google delivered this ability in December of last year and that some users have this working fine. It's different from when it would gray out the option to use the gestures. This one feels like LGs software is the one resetting the gestures since the notification is titled System UI.
I'd be fine with any solid gesture solution as I'm not mated to the built in gestures, but it seems like others break due to the dual screen. Meanwhile the built in ones fail. I could of course change back to gestures every time this happens, but it feels like I'm using a beta device in this regard.
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Yes, I've seen that message. I've also seen that Google delivered this ability in December of last year and that some users have this working fine. It's different from when it would gray out the option to use the gestures. This one feels like LGs software is the one resetting the gestures since the notification is titled System UI.
I'd be fine with any solid gesture solution as I'm not mated to the built in gestures, but it seems like others break due to the dual screen. Meanwhile the built in ones fail. I could of course change back to gestures every time this happens, but it feels like I'm using a beta device in this regard.
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I don't think it's LG. My wife has the same issue on her Note10, and I have it in both my V60 and my OnePlus 6t all using Nova. Maybe another launcher has implemented the fix?
So far for me Action Launcher seems to be working ok with gestures, even after a reboot. I prefer Nova but this is close.
edit: Dual screen causes the navigation to revert back
Is it possible to change the diagonal gesture from Google assistant to something else?
I really like gesture navigation, especially because of screen space, and there's no minimize function in the 3 button navigation which isn't great.
Anyway, would be great to modify the gesture or somehow add the minimize functionality to the 3 button navigation.
MyNameIsEarlB said:
Is it possible to change the diagonal gesture from Google assistant to something else?
I really like gesture navigation, especially because of screen space, and there's no minimize function in the 3 button navigation which isn't great.
Anyway, would be great to modify the gesture or somehow add the minimize functionality to the 3 button navigation.
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I have been using a Magisk module to hide the swipe gesture bar entirely on mine, and had previously used 3 buttons as well (using the gesture because then floating Gboard has more room and no forced space on the side for 3-buttons even when hidden) via "Fullscreen/Immersive Gestures (Q-S), have it set to fully hide the gesture bar, and have been relying on "Xposed Edge Pro" for my actual gesture navigation and customizing of it, since I've changed my Moto G Power 2021 into a Watch (modified build prop to force landscape even by system apps and more ). So have Riru and Lsposed naturally via Magisk as well. Just some ways to pull that off.
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I have been using a Magisk module to hide the swipe gesture bar entirely on mine, and had previously used 3 buttons as well (using the gesture because then floating Gboard has more room and no forced space on the side for 3-buttons even when hidden) via "Fullscreen/Immersive Gestures (Q-S), have it set to fully hide the gesture bar, and have been relying on "Xposed Edge Pro" for my actual gesture navigation and customizing of it, since I've changed my Moto G Power 2021 into a Watch (modified build prop to force landscape even by system apps and more ). So have Riru and Lsposed naturally via Magisk as well. Just some ways to pull that off.
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Awesome!
Which version of riru works with edxposed?
I've tried a few and can't get edxposed to find any of them when installing.
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I just noticed you said you installed Lsposed, got it installed successfully and i'm going to be checking out xposed edge pro, thanks a lot!
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For those wanting a step by step to accomplish this. Not sure exactly how you got yours setup @Onoitsu2, but this way works for me.
First enable 3 button navigation (search navigation in settings)
Install "Xposed Edge" from here, enable it in Lsposed, reboot.
Xposed edge | Xposed Module Repository
repo.xposed.info
Enable the gestures in Xposed Edge, definitely at least a home gesture, a back gesture, and maybe a recent apps gesture. If you do not do this before the next step, you may have to restore a backup.
Note that gestures from the bottom of the screen will not work when the keyboard is open, so I created a back gesture from the side of the screen like the stock one. Then you can tap back to close the keyboard, other things could be used too, like a toggle soft keyboard among others I'm sure.
Then follow this guide.
[MOD][Magisk] Disable Navbar For 3rd-Party Navigation Gestures
If you're like me, you like using a 3rd party navigation gesture app with the navbar hidden. In Android 11, google disabled wm overscan which makes it difficult to hide the navbar. Luckily, it's possible with Magisk and a little bit of...
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Now your relying only on the Xposed Edge module, and it's awesome!
Thanks @Onoitsu2
For some reason, my system UI keeps restarting, usually after I unlock my phone. Does that happen for you using Xposed Edge?
It only seems to happen when I use my fingerprint to unlock.
MyNameIsEarlB said:
First enable 3 button navigation (search navigation in settings)
For some reason, my system UI keeps restarting, usually after I unlock my phone. Does that happen for you using Xposed Edge?
It only seems to happen when I use my fingerprint to unlock.
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I would recommend enabling the gesture nav actually, as with the 3 buttons enabled, you actually lose screen real estate from invisible sections it keeps there in gboard and other keyboards as well, if you use the Android gesture nav it opens up that space as it seems to read that state in the gboard app and honors it, even if hidden or not it still gives the room. But then that "Fullscreen/Immersive Gestures (Q-S)" Magisk module, run through the console it has you answer questions. Once you have Xposed Edge set up right, you can use that to fully hide the Android gesture nav, and get full screen space overall.
As for your crashing system UI, it sounds like you may have the double tap gesture enabled still for your power button. When I rooted, I think that is the only thing that I lost access to, just stopped working, but reader itself worked fine. I did have some issues when I left that option on in Settings, with System UI being dumb at times as I think it tried to trigger it but would not work properly. Just a thought, since I've come to use Xposed Edge and the shortcut panel instead, much more feature rich than the stock panel.
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I would recommend enabling the gesture nav actually, as with the 3 buttons enabled, you actually lose screen real estate from invisible sections it keeps there in gboard and other keyboards as well, if you use the Android gesture nav it opens up that space as it seems to read that state in the gboard app and honors it, even if hidden or not it still gives the room. But then that "Fullscreen/Immersive Gestures (Q-S)" Magisk module, run through the console it has you answer questions. Once you have Xposed Edge set up right, you can use that to fully hide the Android gesture nav, and get full screen space overall.
As for your crashing system UI, it sounds like you may have the double tap gesture enabled still for your power button. When I rooted, I think that is the only thing that I lost access to, just stopped working, but reader itself worked fine. I did have some issues when I left that option on in Settings, with System UI being dumb at times as I think it tried to trigger it but would not work properly. Just a thought, since I've come to use Xposed Edge and the shortcut panel instead, much more feature rich than the stock panel.
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Awesome thanks for the tips.
I tried installing the full screen gestures module but I couldn't figure out how to disable the assistant gesture. I don't remember exactly, but I thought it only asked to disable the back button gestures, however I wouldn't doubt that I'm wrong ther on that. I'll have to reinstall it and try it the way your describing here.
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Awesome thanks for the tips.
I tried installing the full screen gestures module but I couldn't figure out how to disable the assistant gesture. I don't remember exactly, but I thought it only asked to disable the back button gestures, however I wouldn't doubt that I'm wrong ther on that. I'll have to reinstall it and try it the way your describing here.
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I used that module to not only alter the gestures, but turn that gesture nav fully off, hiding it entirely relying only on Xposed Edge Pro for navigations on my device actually. No System UI crashes here, nor other quirks that way like keyboard going dumb and not permitting swiping from bottom (be sure you look at Xposed Edge's settings and tweak them, it's worth it messing versus defaults)
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I used that module to not only alter the gestures, but turn that gesture nav fully off, hiding it entirely relying only on Xposed Edge Pro for navigations on my device actually. No System UI crashes here, nor other quirks that way like keyboard going dumb and not permitting swiping from bottom (be sure you look at Xposed Edge's settings and tweak them, it's worth it messing versus defaults)
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I just reinstalled it a bunch of times and you do get a lot more options if you choose immersive instead of Fullscreen.
It seems that no matter which options I choose and regardless of whether or not you use the 3 button or gesture system navigation, there's still a tiny black bar on the bottom of the screen.
The black bar is in exactly the same place as it is during boot. When compared to the top of the screen which goes all the way to the top, the bottom bar still has a little part of unused space.
Did you manage to extend the screen all the way to the bottom, as it does with the top of the screen?
It's definitely extended more, but it would be awesome to get the entire screen space.
On a side note, do you know if there's a way to force all apps to be completely fullscreen and go all the way to the very top with the status bar hidden?
When I hide the status bar and turn it into landscape mode with the status bar hidden, I do get to use the full space in the app readera for example, but when using it in portrait mode, the space just goes unused despite checking off all apps to go around the camera whole in settings. For example, Firefox doesn't use the full space at the top of the screen, even with the status bar hidden.
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On a side note, do you know if there's a way to force all apps to be completely fullscreen and go all the way to the very top with the status bar hidden?
When I hide the status bar and turn it into landscape mode with the status bar hidden, I do get to use the full space in the app readera for example, but when using it in portrait mode, the space just goes unused despite checking off all apps to go around the camera whole in settings. For example, Firefox doesn't use the full space at the top of the screen, even with the status bar hidden.
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Have you tried in multitasking list, tap on app's icon, it has a pullout of options that show like Full screen and if enabled split screen as another. That is the only thing I've used to make it fill up that upper notch area the camera is housed in. Mine is set to (Developer Options > Display Cutout) Device default. You want yours set to Hide to use the full space as often as possible I believe.
If you're on A11, When you go to Settings > Display and tap Advanced to expand the menu, do you have an option labeled "Full Screen" ? From there you can choose the apps you'd like to run full screen, of course this assumes the app is compatible and capable to do so.