I got a Surface Duo from the recent Woot deal, and after dealing with AT&T for a week, they've closed my case saying they do not have the unlock code. I used the AT&T unlock website, as well as calling several times after the listed 2 day turn around was missed. I also called MS at one point, and they claim they do not have the unlock code and that AT&T does. So both sides are pointing at each other and I'm not sure who is telling the truth.
Is it really possible they both do not have the sim unlock code and I'm just SOL? Or is there something special I need to say or ask to point them in the right direction to get it?
Conversely, if I were to flash the MS ROM Image, would that unlock it or is it a hardware lock?
Any help would be appreciated as I really don't know what else to do other than just returning it at this point?
HighWing,
Please keep us updated. I too just got the AT&T version from Woot and am in the same boat. Thanks for initiating this thread!
rabilancia said:
HighWing,
Please keep us updated. I too just got the AT&T version from Woot and am in the same boat. Thanks for initiating this thread!
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At this point I'm just waiting till someone can respond with an answer to my questions, or I get close to the end of my return window, which ever comes first.
whats the cellphone model number?
Mine:
On the box label:
SKU: 6574C
UPC: 889842653526
In Settings/About: Hardware Version is MP_A (16)
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whats the cellphone model number?
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There does not appear to be a model # as far as I can tell. The model is just listed as "Surface Duo" Other stuff I can find if that helps;
Hardware version: MP_A (16)
Build Number: 2021.314.92
Touch Version: 4.306.139.0
To add an update to this issue;
I tried another avenue to get a better response from AT&T, and lo and behold I got one. However, the news does not look good. They are saying that MS stopped giving AT&T unlock codes back in February. I am very much inclined to believe this person, which unfortunately means this is absolute confirmation that AT&T does not have any unlock codes for any of the recently sold Surface Duo's from Woot. They are trying one last effort to see if they can get codes and I should have another update in a day or two.
I also mentioned that I am not the only in this situation, so they are aware that there are others in need of their unlock codes as well. Unfortunately it is looking like we will have to hound MS for the codes. I am dubious if their support staff can even get them as I've already been told by MS that they don't have any Phone unlock codes.
Fingers crossed I get some good news in the next few days. but it's not looking great. :-/
Thank you for both the update & your hard work on this. We will all keep our fingers crossed.
Is your cellphone a microsoft surface duo does your cellphone ask for unlock code when u insert a sim card from a different carrier?
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Is your cellphone a microsoft surface duo does your cellphone ask for unlock code when u insert a sim card from a different carrier?
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Yes and yes...
No offense, but did you even read the starting post on this thread? Because the answers to both those questions, and several more you may ask, are in my opening post description.
I called MS this morning and the person I spoke to took down the information I gave them and said they would work on escalating the issue, and then call me back today. Seeing as it's ~5pm, it doesn't look like I'm getting a call back today. I'll bother them again tomorrow. But if I don't get any positive results by Thursday, I'm throwing in the towel and returning my Duo.
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I called MS this morning and the person I spoke to took down the information I gave them and said they would work on escalating the issue, and then call me back today. Seeing as it's ~5pm, it doesn't look like I'm getting a call back today. I'll bother them again tomorrow. But if I don't get any positive results by Thursday, I'm throwing in the towel and returning my Duo.
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Again, thank you for all your efforts. Even though I'm in the same boat, I have decided I will not be returning mine. Until the Duo "2" gets released I plan to use mine in WiFi mode only. At that later date I will explore my options to get a reasonable/fair trade-in allowance.
So new update with some maybe helpful information.
At this point I am convinced the MS Phone Support does not know that the Surface Duo is a phone and not a PC tablet, and they do not know how to properly transfer calls either. I made several calls to them today, and each time it was clear that none of them understood what I was talking about. None of them asked me for the IMEI # and they all wanted to transfer my call to another department. The later would not have been a problem if it wasn't for the fact that I was hung up on every time they said the call was being transferred.
I eventually changed tactics and started trying other options on the call prompts. Each one getting disconnected when they tried to transfer me to the "Correct department"... One of the options mentioned a website and using the online support instead, so I figured it was worth a shot. I used the online chat, and this time the person asked for my IMEI #. Even better, they gave me a case # as they needed to escalate this issue. Unfortunately, they said it could take 24-72hrs to get an update, and the only way to get an update was to wait for them to e-mail me. :-( I'm not too happy about those options, but this feels like there is at least some movement instead of hitting brick walls.
At this point I would suggest everyone else trying this as if we can get enough people creating tickets with the same issue, maybe MS will notice there is a problem here. As an FYI you will need a MS account *(the free one you used for windows 10 will work)* and you will need to register/link the s/n of the Duo to your account. What I did was:
Goto help.microsoft.com and click on the blue "Contact US" button on the middle right side of the page.
A new window will open up asking you to sign in with your MS account. *(If you have a windows PC/laptop, you should have a MS account)*
Next a series of questions will ask you about what device you are inquiring about, and eventually it will come to a window that will ask you to register the new device. *(This is where you need the s/n)*
You should now be put in a queue to wait to chat with someone.
This is the important part, once you get someone, you will need to tell ALL of the following information.
That you need the sim unlock code for your phone.
AT&T has confirmed that MS stopped giving them the unlock codes. So AT&T does not have the codes at all.
3rd party vendors are unable to get the unlock code as well.
Hopefully if all goes well, they should ask for your IMEI # and then create a case # for you.
Hopefully if enough people do this, it may help us to get a favorable resolution faster. *Fingers crossed*
Followed your advice and just went through the process. It was one of the most satisfying support connections that I've ever experienced anywhere. I was told that I'd have answer back within 24 to 720 hours. The one very interesting thing was the rep said:
"We are receiving reports that AT&T is not been able to unlock it. And I want to give you the best support you deserve. We will need to escalate your case to a higher lever in our end, and they will help us to get a resolution for your case."
Like you: "FINGERS CROSSED!"
Thank you again!
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Followed your advice and just went through the process. It was one of the most satisfying support connections that I've ever experienced anywhere. I was told that I'd have answer back within 24 to 720 hours. The one very interesting thing was the rep said:
"We are receiving reports that AT&T is not been able to unlock it. And I want to give you the best support you deserve. We will need to escalate your case to a higher lever in our end, and they will help us to get a resolution for your case."
Like you: "FINGERS CROSSED!"
Thank you again!
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Your welcome One thing to note, I did get a response back a few hours later basically telling me to contact AT&T. However, they did not immediately close my ticket, and I have been pushing back reminding them that AT&T is saying that only MS can help now. I just talked to another person who I have confidence in that they fully understand the problem. Unfortunately they also implied that we may not be able to get the codes. But as long as the case is still open, and someone understands the problem, there is still a chance at getting these unlocked.
Just got an e-mail with this:
"Your case has moved to a higher level and they are actively working in this situation. I am constantly reviewing your case and as soon as I get a resolution, I will let you know so we can get this resolved successfully."
Looks like I will be joining you all in this unlock saga... this whole supply chain of Microsoft + ATT / 3rd Party Seller / Woot is quite hindrance. I will post if I am able to enable GoogleFi Sim on this device. I have already submitted the unlock request to AT&T and gotten the standard response of
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Woot had sent me second phone in a replacement request that also came with AT&T sim and network locked. I tried ATA& Unlock as an existing customer (my friend's) of AT&T for the second device..the response there was prompt stating Surface Duo is not supported by AT&T.
I will now initiate requests with Microsoft next.
Kuppu,
I agree with HighWing that this will need to be resolved by Microsoft. The tech that I spoke with there last week reached out again on Friday but with no new info. I've got my fingers crossed that I'll hear something next week.
I only have one update at the moment as I was only recently given permission to post it, but it's a good one. (See attached image) While it may not look like much, it's from AT&T support, and states 2 things. 1) MS was the source of the unlock codes for MS phones for AT&T, and 2) MS is the only ones that can resolve this issue.
tevado said:
cellphone can be unlocked by purchasing unlock code takes up 7 business days..
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Do you have proof of a Surface Duo, purchased in/after February 2021, being unlocked by a 3rd party vendor? Because I have proof that several can not unlock this phone.
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I have been trying to get the unlock code from AT$T ever since I got this phone. finally, the code is now available to customers for free and I got my yesterday. just in time for my trip overseas later this month. now my little aria is perfect.
so call at$t and get your aria unlocked
Do you need a foreign sim for it to unlock, or can you simply boot with no sim inserted?
you will need a sim card. all you have to do is:
1. power down
2. remove your AT$T sim
3. insert any sim, active or inactive (in my case I used my china mobile sim)
4. boot back up
5. it will ask you for the unlock code
6. type in code
7. done. your aria is free and unlocked
I tested it by using my friends t-mobiles sim and it worked fine
boxcar8028 said:
I have been trying to get the unlock code from AT$T ever since I got this phone. finally, the code is now available to customers for free and I got my yesterday. just in time for my trip overseas later this month. now my little aria is perfect.
so call at$t and get your aria unlocked
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What exactly did you do to get the unlock code? I just called them and they said that an unlock code is not available for this phone
Also, are you out of contract or still in contract? when i called again, they said that the phone is still in contract, so they can't provide an unlock code.
I have been trying to get the unlock code from AT$T ever since I got this phone. finally, the code is now available to customers for free and I got my yesterday. just in time for my trip overseas later this month. now my little aria is perfect.
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Do you think they will provide this for me if I bought the phone used?
I can use a friend's AT&T sim card but does it registers on his account or something? clarifications will be greatly appreciated.
boxcar8028,
wondering who you called/number. I too called yesterday (before reading this) even talked toa supervisor in the US (not India call center which is worthless) and they told me ATT doesn't provide unlocking code for the Aria ever (!), and would be 9 months from purchase for my other HTC phone (Inspire 4G) - both are in contract.
Sight, as I switched to ATT to get a world phone, and I'm traveling to europe in a week. Not looking foreward to paying >$25/phone on soem untrusted site...
GameGod72 said:
What exactly did you do to get the unlock code? I just called them and they said that an unlock code is not available for this phone
Also, are you out of contract or still in contract? when i called again, they said that the phone is still in contract, so they can't provide an unlock code.
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not sure why AT$T didn't give you the code, but keep trying. it took me 4 try's in the past 7 months and each time they would tell me the same thing "code is not available for this phone" until last week. but maybe its because I have been with ATT for over 10 years, and yes my aria has a 2 year contract (17 months to go) and if they ask you why you want it unlocked, just tell them for use traveling overseas. keep trying, good luck.
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Do you think they will provide this for me if I bought the phone used?
I can use a friend's AT&T sim card but does it registers on his account or something? clarifications will be greatly appreciated.
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not sure about a used aria, but AT$T will ask for the IMEI number to track the hardware. be careful AT$T may try to get you into a two year contract.
alain_HTC said:
boxcar8028,
wondering who you called/number. I too called yesterday (before reading this) even talked toa supervisor in the US (not India call center which is worthless) and they told me ATT doesn't provide unlocking code for the Aria ever (!), and would be 9 months from purchase for my other HTC phone (Inspire 4G) - both are in contract.
Sight, as I switched to ATT to get a world phone, and I'm traveling to europe in a week. Not looking foreward to paying >$25/phone on soem untrusted site...
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I just called 1-800-331-0500
I have been trying for over 7 months. each time I ask AT$T would always say check back in 2 months. not sure if the more you ask the more likely you'll get the code or not.
I thought AT$T would just make the code open to all now since the aria is an older model
I thought AT$T would just make the code open to all now since the aria is an older model
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We can make this happen if everyone will ask for this in AT&T forums. If HTC listened with the rom locking, I'm sure we can make AT&T listen as well.
Thanks to drumist, here are the official AT$T unlock rules:
http://www.att.com/esupport/article.jsp?sid=55002&cv=820#fbid=90LzT3_aeA4
Thanks to drumist, here are the official AT$T unlock rules:
http://www.att.com/esupport/article....id=90LzT3_aeA4
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as we can see even though the phone is sold exclusively by AT&T you still got the code. So the guidelines don't represent the situation here.
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I'm going to try to get my unlock code. If they tell me they can't do it, I'm going to remind them that unlocking my phone is my right and the DCMA was modified by the custodian of the Library of Congress. If they refuse, I'm going to demand that they purchase my phone. Either way, if I don't get the code, I'm going to start filing complaints with the FCC. I don't believe they have a choice in the unlocking debate.
Cell phone providers, software providers, etc, enjoy benefits and protections that no one would tolerate for any other device. If you purchased a car that would only run on gas from one station, you would burn the dealership to the ground. But cell phone companies do it, because many people don't exercise their rights.
yeah, I have to agreed with you. I wish USA cell services was more like overseas, were people are more lock into their phone numbers then their providers. make sure to point out that you are within the unlock rules of AT$T and hopefully they will give you the code. - good luck
I'm going to try to get my unlock code. If they tell me they can't do it, I'm going to remind them that unlocking my phone is my right and the DCMA was modified by the custodian of the Library of Congress. If they refuse, I'm going to demand that they purchase my phone. Either way, if I don't get the code, I'm going to start filing complaints with the FCC. I don't believe they have a choice in the unlocking debate.
Cell phone providers, software providers, etc, enjoy benefits and protections that no one would tolerate for any other device. If you purchased a car that would only run on gas from one station, you would burn the dealership to the ground. But cell phone companies do it, because many people don't exercise their rights.
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I'm sure everybody here support our right for unlocked devices. But this is even not the issue here. Even if we assume that AT&T has the right to lock the device, it seems that the company does give out the unlock codes to many users. That's what really frustrates me since I don't understand the reason to prefer one customer over another.
Please update us on any progress.
You just have to have been used the phone for 3-4 months for them to give you the unlock code. I have done this with previous phones, as well as with my Aria and my Mom's Aria. Both of them I bought on craigslist, so not on contract.
You just have to have been used the phone for 3-4 months for them to give you the unlock code. I have done this with previous phones, as well as with my Aria and my Mom's Aria. Both of them I bought on craigslist, so not on contract.
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Are you sure about that? quite a bummer. Still looking for a way to get the code without having to wait.
is not expected to wait so much! it's like 3 hour like much.
is not expected to wait so much! it's like 3 hour like much.
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Do you know this for sure? 3 hours from placing the first call?
This is like company policy or something. or atleast it was like a few months ago. good luck guys!
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We all know that the GN2 from Verizon has a ton of features disabled such as:
Blocked or added by Verizon:
- Permanently on Wifi Mode
- Bubble Notifications on Lock Screen
- Blocking Mode
- H+ network support (Yes this is truly a world phone if they wouldn't block it)
- Sim locked
- Locked Bootloader
- S Planner Widget (God I want to know why?)
- Can't continually scroll in Touchwiz but you get stopped on either side
- Tons of Bloatware
- Verizon Logo on Homebutton (Really not much of a problem just they were the only ones that did it)
- Multi-window was limited to 7 apps
- Photo Editor
Since I was in the mood to dig deeper and get answers I decided I would contact Verizon and see what they have to say to that. After getting nowhere with them I was told to contact Samsung since they were in charge of the whole affair.
For all your amusement I have included my email/chat conversation with Verizon and Samsung. It is awesome to see how they can write so much and say so little. Things that are written in BOLD ARE COMMENTS AND EXPLANATIONS
Lucas: Hi, thank you for contacting Samsung Technical Support. How may I help you today?
Visitor: I was directed here to you by Verizon Technical support because I had some questions regarding features that were disabled on the Galaxy Note II
Lucas: Please let me know how may I help you.
Lucas: I will certainly help you with the information available in live chat.
Visitor: Can I send you a copy of the email exchange that I send to Verizon and how they responded to me - I can copy and paste it in the chat
Lucas: Yes, you can copy and paste the chat in the live chat window. Unfortunately, live chat is not provided with the feature to send via attach files.
HERE I COPY AND PASTE THE EMAIL I SENT TO VERIZON
Visitor: To whom it may concern,
I recently acquired the Galaxy Note 2 and it is an amazing phone, however please tell me why Verizon has disabled the following features on the phone:
- Bubble Notifications on Lock Screen
- S Planner Widget disabled
- Can't continually scroll in Touchwiz but you get stopped on either side
- Photo Editor deleted I understand why Verizon is disabling certain features such as locking the Bootloader but why were the above mentioned implemented when all the other carriers have them and they don't cut into the profit margin of Verizon?
Thank you and I am looking forward for an answer! A call from someone who knows the answers to this question would be very much appreciated.
John
I OMITTED THE FULL LIST SINCE SOME OF THEM WERE OBVIOUS SINCE VERIZON WOULD LOOSE MONEY
Visitor: This is my letter that I sent to them - when you are ready I will send you their response to it.
Lucas: Please give me 2 minutes while I go thorough the issue.
Visitor: take your time. Once you have read this part I will copy and paste you the response I got from Verizon.
Lucas: Sure.
Visitor: let me know when you are ready for the response
Lucas: Please let me know the response form Verizon carrier team.
Visitor: Good morning John, I apologize for the delay in response to your email. We have been experiencing higher email volume than normal which is causing delayed responses. My name is Brittani and I definitely understand your frustration with some features that you like being disabled on your Galaxy Note 2. Wireless carriers work very closely with the device manufacturers on the products that come out. While we worked with Samsung to bring the Galaxy Note 2 to Verizon Wireless, we do not develop the software or disable features on device. That is all built into the software of the phone. A possible reason that you might see different features from carrier to carrier is that we may be operating with a different software version. I honestly recommend that you reach out to Samsung for answers as to why some things are locked down and others are not. This is not information that I have available. They would have more knowledge on the topic since they actually created the software. I apologize for the inconvenience. Have a great day! Sincerely, Brittani Verizon Wireless Customer Service
SO IN OTHER WORDS IT WAS SAMSUNG THAT DISABLED ALL OF THOSE FEATURES - HARD TO BELIEVE BUT OK I PLAY THEIR GAME AND CHAT WITH SAMSUNG
Lucas: I'm sorry for the delay. I'll be right with you.
Visitor: take your time please
Lucas: I will be right with you.
Visitor: no problem take your time
Lucas: I understand that your concern about the missing features on Verizon Galaxy S 3, this is due to the fact that as the software changes after updating the phone depending upon the previous software performance Samsung will check with the device issues and delete the features that causes the issues and update the phone to new features. - SO IT WAS A SOFTWARE UPDATE? YOU GOT TO BE KIDDING?
Visitor: No GALAXY NOTE 2
Lucas: I am sorry for the typo error, I am referring to Galaxy Note 2 device.
Lucas: In fact that update released by Samsung will check with the previous software version performance and release the update for the phones accordingly.
Lucas: This the reason the features has been deleted by the Samsung with the latest update.
Lucas: I can understand how important you feel the feature to use. However, as per recorded issues and complaints Samsung will look upon the issues and update the software to fix such issues. THIS GOT TO BE A JOKE RIGHT
Visitor: So you are telling me that the S-Planner widget which works on every major carrier and the international version of the phone but Verizon even after the latest software update to 4.1?
Lucas: Please let me know if you have any questions.
Visitor: see above question please
Lucas: Yes, I am reading your content. Unfortunately, yes. ANSWERS LIKE THIS TAKE YOUR BREATH AWAY BECAUSE THEY ARE SO HARD TO BELIEVE
Lucas: As I said the Samsung look upon the complaints and major issues with the phone depending upon the carrier, Samsung will update the phones and get the issue fixed.
Lucas: We sincerely apologize for inconvenience that might have caused to you.
Visitor: Oh no worries I know how to deal with the issue and fix it my way. Thank you for your help THANK GOD FOR ROOTING AND XDA DEVELOPERS
Lucas: You're welcome.
Lucas: If you want to report the feedback you can reach our Samsung voice support team at 1-888-987-4357, Mon-Fri: 7 AM - 9 PM (CST), Sat: 9 AM - 6 PM (CST).
Lucas: As support team is our higher support, they will look upon the issue and provide you with the solution to isolate the issue.
After this exchange it took me a while to digest this information - they really did tell me that it was a software issue! Thank God I have rooted and flashed another rom but it still bugs me how this was handled.
Would love to hear everyone's comments!
Take care and thanks everyone.
Samsung uses different features for different markets and that is limited via CSC (this includes blocking mode, infinite scrolling, bubble notififications, etc.). Verizon does not code anything. Samsung does, and while they may have done it via Verizon's wishes, they still did it. SPlanner widget was probably broken. Multiwindow is a new feature that we have on 4.1.1, everyone else in the States had to get it on 4.1.2. We probably got an older iteration of it that needs a bit of work. Again, this is a software issue that can (and probably will) be addressed in the future. Blocking Mode has been shown time and again not to work on Verizon, at least not with JB (not sure if it was there in ICS). Therefore, it is blocked on the network via CSC and some changes in SecSettings.apk. Even if you enable it, it will not work.
I don't know why you tormented those folks. Both of who you talked to are not in a position to know anything past customer service scripts and basic account maintenance.
It sounds like they told you it can possibly be fixed in a software update and you weren't satisfied with the answer.
Unfortunately these level techs don't really have the information behind the decisions all they can really do is try to pacify the consumer and offer basic troubleshooting.
I honestly didn't even realize they had stripped out so much since I was running a custom ROM on my phone within 45 minutes of owning it.
Verizon, you daft bastards.
Also,
-The device isn't sim locked.
-If there is no H+ support (I know not), it is because the band isn't supported in the hardware.
-Photo Editor is a Note 1 feature, not Note 2. Not even International has it stock.
We all know that's all bull. Why would you disable all those Samsung features (that's one of the reasons why many people want to buy these devices in the first place). I'd say we should create a new phone company called Chupacabra Mobile where we won't have problems with all this crp. lol :laugh:
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We all know that's all bull. Why would you disable all those Samsung features (that's one of the reasons why many people want to buy these devices in the first place). I'd say we should create a new phone company called Chupacabra Mobile where we won't have problems with all this crp. lol :laugh:
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The list is shorter than he listed and software defects aside, Samsung limits things by markets using CSC. They planned this a long time ago considering that these limitations are even in the International software.
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Also,
-The device isn't sim locked.
-If there is no H+ support (I know not), it is because the band isn't supported in the hardware.
-Photo Editor is a Note 1 feature, not Note 2. Not even International has it stock.
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Technically, no the Device is not sim locked but it doesn't allow you to add APN settings because Verizon wants you to pay 20 bucks per megabyte when you travel abroad. The hardware supports it - just look on Wikipedia. About the Photo Editor? From what I have seen it is on the Note 2 but I could be wrong on that one. I have it on my rom and if not it can be easily installed.
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Technically, no the Device is not sim locked but it doesn't allow you to add APN settings because Verizon wants you to pay 20 bucks per megabyte when you travel abroad. The hardware supports it - just look on Wikipedia. About the Photo Editor? From what I have seen it is on the Note 2 but I could be wrong on that one. I have it on my rom and if not it can be easily installed.
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I have downloaded stock International roms...there is no photo editor in the Note 2 roms. So unless they are hiding it....
Besides, you can download it off the market.
The apn editor is blocked via CSC, and I already mentioned that Samsung does that for different markets. If H+ is supported by the hardware, you simply need to add the correct APN data.
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It doesn't even require you to modify the code. Two lines in my build.prop is all it took. Verizon probably has a way to enable it as well without even doing that.
Have you actually called Verizon to see if they will unlock it for overseas travel? I am guessing not.
Since my phone is rooted and flashed I can't really call Verizon. I have it enabled now so I have the possibility to travel internationally and simple switching the Sim card. For your information: I have called them before I bought the phone and I was told that it is really not an international phone and therefore they won't/can't unlock it - but still advertise it as a world phone.
What does CSC stand for?
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What does CSC stand for?
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I don't know exactly, but best guess is Customer Software Customization. Basically, settings and changes specific to the carrier that are controlled via different change in prop files and XML files.
I'm guessing you can enable the APN editor on stock by putting the proper lines in /data/local.prop and restarting.
Country Sales Code.
adrynalyne said:
Country Sales Code.
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Mine sounds better
imnuts said:
Mine sounds better
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Mine sounds accurate
What are the 2 lines?
Rob
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Maybe I am missing something...
The carrier chooses to carry the phone in their line up. Then they subsidize the cost for their customers.
If the carrier wants to modify it so they can make extra profit through the services they provide, I fail to see how that's wrong.
If the phone is being purchased outright then you have the choice to buy a factory unlocked from another source... it's usually even cheaper.
Do they make their cost back through contract alone? Sure, but they have a duty to their stock holders to churn a profit too. The more the better.
I guess my point is that I have a hard time comprehending why you would choose to grief employees over this. You can't honestly tell me that you expected policy clarification from two public companies via chat and email with first or second tier support.
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What are the 2 lines?
Rob
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=36412505&postcount=81
There was an article on Engadget about how the Motorola Atrix came to be. If you can find that article I'm sure that you'll understand that what the VZW CSR told you was bull. Verizon tells the manufacturer exactly what they want.
Now the process will be different since the GN2 is not an exclusive phone to Verizon, however the principle is still the same. The carrier is in total control. They decide what features they want their phones to have and what features they don't want to have. Google wallet is a given since Verizon has their own NFC payment service.
As for other features, they probably wanted the phone dumbed down so that their CS department won't be bothered too much on how to use blah blah.
Some ignorant abonxious customers will always blame Verizon for anything wrong with their phone even if they didn't make it. After all, Verizon wants to keep their CS reports better than other carriers. And let's be honest with each other, the general population are ignorant to technology.
I'm against this practice by Verizon, however I understand why they do it.
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adrynalyne said:
Also,
-The device isn't sim locked.
-If there is no H+ support (I know not), it is because the band isn't supported in the hardware.
-Photo Editor is a Note 1 feature, not Note 2. Not even International has it stock.
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I installed Samsung apps and then got photo editor there. I did notice that the note ii was not listed as a supported device when you had to select your device but I just selected the note and it installed fine and i use it all of the time. I guess I just assumed that Samsung was showing off their s pen and their own app (photo editor) in the lebron commercial and that other commercial (where it's some dude's birthday and everyone is forwarding pics they quickly edit with what looks like photo editor). I thought it was an app Verizon had dumped but now that you mention it, the note ii is not an option when you have to choose your type of device when installing from Samsung apps. I guess though it wouldn't be the first time they used an app or feature in an ad that they never ended up including on the phone.
tapa'd from my note ii
Huawei will stop providing bootloader unlock codes. If you want code you have 2 months to request it, after it they will stop this service. :silly::silly:
Source: https://www.xda-developers.com/huawei-stop-providing-bootloader-unlock-codes/
Code request site: https://www.emui.com/en/plugin.php?id=unlock&mod=detail
Source?
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Thanks. Well that sucks
Luckily have already requested mine and awaiting it.
But if I need to get a replacement phone in future I wont be able to root
Last Huawei I get then...
Got my code yesterday. But this is probably my first and last Huawei phone.
And DC Phoenix developers will raise their prices for it...I bet DC Phoenix is developed by Huawei.
I don't know why phone manufacturers do this. First it was Apple - the never ending war againt Jailbreakers. Instead of registering the phone for voided warranty and denying service for jailbroken iDevices, they fight againt ist.
Now Huawei does this - it's nearly the same and for me the rooting "freedom" on Android was the main reason to switch from iOS.
So, first and last Huawei I've had...after waiting 1.5 years for good custom rom development and good community support for EMUI I will choose another manufacturer - is the question: which one? Nevermind.
My main reason against iPhone too, locking down to only get everything through them and charging through the nose for the privilege...
OnePlus seems like a good way to go at the moment. I am quite tempted to go back to my HTC days as far as I know they are one of the better most lenient I have come across and their phones seem to be getting to the top of the pile again stat-wise...
i got my code instantly from the site. Stupid move by Huawei. One of the main reasons I got this phone was because i could unlock the the bootloader. If they dont change their decision this will be my last Huawei.
Are the unlock codes a alpha numeric 16 character code ? I just want to double check the code i got is correct.
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Are the unlock codes a alpha numeric 16 character code ? I just want to double check the code i got is correct.
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It is. In my code were only capitals and numbers.
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Are the unlock codes a alpha numeric 16 character code ? I just want to double check the code i got is correct.
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Mine is 15 digits, not letters.
Well that is terrible news...
Now here's another thing, my wife has a p10, I haven't rooted yet. Figured I'd wait till her warranty was near it's end to avoid any hassle if it needed servicing.
I went to that link in the op, thing I noticed is that when trying to register there is no option to select Canada or the US from the country list. Did those of you that have used that site, did you have prior accounts created, or does the country matter?
I would like to have the unlock code for later use.
If not, I guess I'm looking for another carrier to buy out this contract to get another phone.
I was rather impressed with her phone, and would have liked one too once my Sammy's screen kicked the bucket.
Now I have no idea what phone is worth getting for modding. Seems like very few options left...
Myself, I ditched apple because jailbreaking became an impossibility. I just can't fathom owning a device without administrative privileges. Plus if it weren't for custom ROMs, my phone would have received no further security updates. This is horrible business practice. At least windows gives its users years of monthly updates.
This is indeed ****ty news...
babalou62 said:
Well that is terrible news...
Now here's another thing, my wife has a p10, I haven't rooted yet. Figured I'd wait till her warranty was near it's end to avoid any hassle if it needed servicing.
I went to that link in the op, thing I noticed is that when trying to register there is no option to select Canada or the US from the country list. Did those of you that have used that site, did you have prior accounts created, or does the country matter?
I would like to have the unlock code for later use.
If not, I guess I'm looking for another carrier to buy out this contract to get another phone.
I was rather impressed with her phone, and would have liked one too once my Sammy's screen kicked the bucket.
Now I have no idea what phone is worth getting for modding. Seems like very few options left...
Myself, I ditched apple because jailbreaking became an impossibility. I just can't fathom owning a device without administrative privileges. Plus if it weren't for custom ROMs, my phone would have received no further security updates. This is horrible business practice. At least windows gives its users years of monthly updates.
This is indeed ****ty news...
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I sent an email through this
I had to send a couple before they got back to me with this...
"Thank you for contacting Huawei Customer Care.
We have sent you a email in which we said the following. It seems that it didn't end up to you, we're sorry about that. Please fill in the following and send us the reply.
But, in response, please note that we can, of course, generate and provide the bootloader code for your device.
However, please keep in mind that unlocking the device's bootloader voids its warranty and might cause numerous software issues (unlocking any device's bootloader is considered to be software manipulation).
Should you still require the code, please provide us with the following details:
Full Name (if applicable):
Email address (if applicable):
Device model:
Serial number:
IMEI:
Product ID - dialing *#*#1357946#*#*. If not available, the invoice should be attached."
After sending that about week later got the u/l code
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SavageRobot said:
I sent an email through this
I had to send a couple before they got back to me with this...
"Thank you for contacting Huawei Customer Care.
We have sent you a email in which we said the following. It seems that it didn't end up to you, we're sorry about that. Please fill in the following and send us the reply.
But, in response, please note that we can, of course, generate and provide the bootloader code for your device.
However, please keep in mind that unlocking the device's bootloader voids its warranty and might cause numerous software issues (unlocking any device's bootloader is considered to be software manipulation).
Should you still require the code, please provide us with the following details:
Full Name (if applicable):
Email address (if applicable):
Device model:
Serial number:
IMEI:
Product ID - dialing *#*#1357946#*#*. If not available, the invoice should be attached."
After sending that about week later got the u/l code
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Thanks for this.
Edit: Wife contacted Huawei by email. First response was their branch couldn't help and gave a link to contact the same domain name with a different contact name, however the contact is non existent. (So far twice they responded with a non existent contact)
We're waiting to see if they respond with a working contact.
If not, we'll look at another carrier buying out the contract and get another phone I guess. It's sad because it is a nice phone.
Edit 2: not looking like we're getting an answer.
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That is concerning, now I want to test the code but I like others was going to wait and unlock. I heard others are getting the code by email, but mine was given instantly. Have others got it instantly? I just don't want to assume the code is legit then when I do go to use it it's not and it's to late to get one. Is there a way to test it without actually unlocking it. I really don't feel like wiping my data, just to check it
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That is concerning, now I want to test the code but I like others was going to wait and unlock. I heard others are getting the code by email, but mine was given instantly. Have others got it instantly? I just don't want to assume the code is legit then when I do go to use it it's not and it's to late to get one. Is there a way to test it without actually unlocking it. I really don't feel like wiping my data, just to check it
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Just enter the unlock command with your code. If your code is working there will be a message for factory reset, there you need to press "Yes" or "No". So no factory reset if you don't confirm it.
If the code isn't working you'll get adb error "invalid command"
Super excited received my P6 from tmobile today, loving it so far, except for the fact that i cant unlock the device!, i received it and dev option was already enabled and the device has a greyed out Oem unlock with (cannot be used on carrier locked device)
I believe you can unlock the bootloader once the device has been paid off in full. That was the case with my 4 xl anyway
So you need to contact tmobile and get an unlock code, or look for an unlock app here, but I'll try to help by asking, whats a p6?
A year away from leaving primary school lol...
Nah, seriously, who made the p6?
Pachacouti said:
So you need to contact tmobile and get an unlock code, or look for an unlock app here, but I'll try to help by asking, whats a p6?
A year away from leaving primary school lol...
Nah, seriously, who made the p6?
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hmm well you are a cheerful one, id answer your question, but i see you have an issue with context clues, figuring out what a "P6" is on a forum called Pixel 6. i bet blocks and holes was hard for you as a kid also
Moderator you can close this thread im posting what i did to unlock my device! thank you.
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Super excited received my P6 from tmobile today, loving it so far, except for the fact that i cant unlock the device!, i received it and dev option was already enabled and the device has a greyed out Oem unlock with (cannot be used on carrier locked device)
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You have to the sim unlocked. TMobile's policy is 40 days after purchase and paid off, they will unlock the sim, which provides the authorization (ungrey) to unlock the bootloader.
You can try and chat with T-Mobile via social media and they may or may not unlock the sim for you. It's good to have a reason you need it unlocked.
I answer a question in the HELP OTHERS ANSWER UN_ANSWERED QUESTIONS... thanks...
Ah, GOOGLE made it. That was not in the title, hence my question.
Wooosaaaaah...
This is neither a google OR pixel thread.
Twas an unanswered question.
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You have to the sim unlocked. TMobile's policy is 40 days after purchase and paid off, they will unlock the sim, which provides the authorization (ungrey) to unlock the bootloader.
You can try and chat with T-Mobile via social media and they may or may not unlock the sim for you. It's good to have a reason you need it unlocked.
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mine was just unlocked and is not payed off
maybe its a right to repair thing, no idea its unlocked tho
ne0ns4l4m4nder said:
mine was just unlocked and is not payed off
maybe its a right to repair thing, no idea its unlocked tho
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I had mine unlocked Monday through FB chat. Also, not paid off. Someone earlier today mentioned they couldn't get there's done through chat. Glad to see yours is unlocked. Enjoy.
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I answer a question in the HELP OTHERS ANSWER UN_ANSWERED QUESTIONS... thanks...
Ah, GOOGLE made it. That was not in the title, hence my question.
Wooosaaaaah...
This is neither a google OR pixel thread.
Twas an unanswered question.
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Lmfao, alright alright, thats fair, i thought you were lurking in the thread tryna be funny, i used to love to troll, hence my response. i thought it would have showed it was a Pixel 6 thread
Lol, I noticed only after you replied that while you were in your own thread, I was just answering questions in the un-answered questions section, my apologies
Ask @mobbdeep
Your best bet is chat, if the chat doesn't do it. Call in during mid day to get ahold of a local expert. You can ask for a whitelist of your IMEI. 'Your job requires it to have the bootloader unlock'.
Had mine done today because the software was broken - forced flash all partitions through the pixel utility.
But give T-Maybe a call.
It took me (7) times, yes 6 returns and re-upgrades before i got the right rep to whitelist the IMEI, before i even took the device out of the box, the customer service rep had the IMEI whitelisted and Carrier Unlocked Successfully.
I am awaiting my P6P now, and if the 1st boot with no SIM doesn't work, to the phone i'll go...
I talked to a FB chat rep and he didn't do it for me. Attempt 1 is a failure. I'll try again tomorrow and then maybe everyday once. All I need is just one considerate rep.
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I talked to a FB chat rep and he didn't do it for me. Attempt 1 is a failure. I'll try again tomorrow and then maybe everyday once. All I need is just one considerate rep.
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Throughout the years I've noticed @T-MobileHelp on Twitter has more tools/authority in General, over Customer Care or in a Store. That being said, they are more "by the book" and stick to the rules more. The only difference was I told them it was a replacement device, and my last Pixel (4XL) was Unlocked. No questions asked, the Rep flipped the switch without question. Device was NOT paid off, it was actually billed to my account, downpayment and all...
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Throughout the years I've noticed @T-MobileHelp on Twitter has more tools/authority in General, over Customer Care or in a Store. That being said, they are more "by the book" and stick to the rules more. The only difference was I told them it was a replacement device, and my last Pixel (4XL) was Unlocked. No questions asked, the Rep flipped the switch without question. Device was NOT paid off, it was actually billed to my account, downpayment and all...
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Actually, right after my reply last night at 1:30 am CST, I talked to a customer service rep and asked her to out my device to whitelist. And she did it! She said that it'll take up to 24 hours for the request to get processed. She also confirmed that then my device will be network unlocked and I'll be able to OEM unlock.
20 hours have passed since then and I'm waiting patiently...
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Your best bet is chat, if the chat doesn't do it. Call in during mid day to get ahold of a local expert. You can ask for a whitelist of your IMEI. 'Your job requires it to have the bootloader unlock'.
Had mine done today because the software was broken - forced flash all partitions through the pixel utility.
But give T-Maybe a call.
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I'm picking up a Pixel 6 tomorrow from T-Mobile - what kind of work would require this? Just want to be prepared when I call them in case they push the issue.
P.S. Sorry to necropost
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It took me (7) times, yes 6 returns and re-upgrades before i got the right rep to whitelist the IMEI, before i even took the device out of the box, the customer service rep had the IMEI whitelisted and Carrier Unlocked Successfully.
I am awaiting my P6P now, and if the 1st boot with no SIM doesn't work, to the phone i'll go...
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It took me (7) times, yes 6 returns and re-upgrades before i got the right rep to whitelist the IMEI, before i even took the device out of the box, the customer service rep had the IMEI whitelisted and Carrier Unlocked Successfully.
I am awaiting my P6P now, and if the 1st boot with no SIM doesn't work, to the phone i'll go...
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This contradicts most of what we know. For T-Mobile to have your IMEI in their system, you’d have to have the SIM card in the phone and have used it, otherwise they wouldn’t have record of your IMEI? Even @mobbdeep who was the user here that unlocks TMO for us for free, one his requirements was exactly this, the device to be unlocked needs to have the SIM currently installed for a minimum of 3 days. He even went as far as saying if we happened to remove it at any time, the 3 day minimum resets. But other Pixel 6 users said they were able to unlock the same or next day after buying it so maybe 3 days is no longer required, however the phone sim still needed to be inserted for your IMEI to show in the system. How did you unlock a device that you hadn’t possessed yet and why the need to return the device 6-7 times? If TMO refused to unlock you, there’s no need to return or reupgrade your device? There’s nothing wrong with it, the issue is with the TMO rep, them refusing to help means they likely did nothing to your device at all so no need to exchange it?
I asked Twitter T-Mobile help to get my phone unlocked. They did it for me. After I got the notification I tried to use the unlock app from T-Mobile for Google pixels only. It didn't work. I suspect you don't need it though.
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Since this seems to be a slightly different problem than I have been seeing in the other Sim/Bootloader unlock threads I figured I would post it separately.
Currently I have a Pixel 6 purchased through T-Mobile that I convinced them to unlock already. I have verified it as unlocked through the T-Force rep, the T-Mobile/Pixel unlock app, as well as a sim card (FI if it makes a difference.) But no matter what I do (including device check in using *#*#checkin#*#*), I can't seem to get the OEM unlock to trigger. From everything I have seen I don't see why it wont allow the OEM unlock.
Edit: It seems I missed another thread with the same issue. Doesn't look like there was a resolution there though or any other post I have yet to see. Apologies for starting another thread in this case though!
Edit 2: Adding some screenshots for extra clarity on what I am seeing on the P6. The OEM unlock message stays the same whether on WiFI, Original T-Mobile sim or any other SIM I try to use. Thinking I may need to go bother support again to see if they have everything switched on right.
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shadowline said:
Since this seems to be a slightly different problem than I have been seeing in the other Sim/Bootloader unlock threads I figured I would post it separately.
Currently I have a Pixel 6 purchased through T-Mobile that I convinced them to unlock already. I have verified it as unlocked through the T-Force rep, the T-Mobile/Pixel unlock app, as well as a sim card (FI if it makes a difference.) But no matter what I do (including device check in using *#*#checkin#*#*), I can't seem to get the OEM unlock to trigger. From everything I have seen I don't see why it wont allow the OEM unlock.
Edit: It seems I missed another thread with the same issue. Doesn't look like there was a resolution there though or any other post I have yet to see. Apologies for starting another thread in this case though!
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I'm not 100% certain, but I believe there are two types of sim unlock: permanent and temporary. I believe the latter type does not allow the bootloader to be unlocked, wheras the former type does.
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I'm not 100% certain, but I believe there are two types of sim unlock: permanent and temporary. I believe the latter type does not allow the bootloader to be unlocked, wheras the former type does.
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You are correct. In my case though according to the rep as well as the app, I have the permanent unlock. But after reboots, and factory resets it still won't toggle.
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You are correct. In my case though according to the rep as well as the app, I have the permanent unlock. But after reboots, and factory resets it still won't toggle.
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I wonder if Tmobile's new policy for porting numbers is effecting this. Just throwing it out there.
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I wonder if Tmobile's new policy for porting numbers is effecting this. Just throwing it out there.
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Not sure the details on that, what did they change?
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Not sure the details on that, what did they change?
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T-Mobile is adding PIN protection to its port-out process
SIM-swap attacks have become increasingly popular.
www.theverge.com
phaino00 said:
T-Mobile is adding PIN protection to its port-out process
SIM-swap attacks have become increasingly popular.
www.theverge.com
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Thanks! About time they did a little more for the sim porting issue that T-Mobile keeps having. Doesn't look like something that should have an effect on getting it unlocked since I still have the same T-Mobile service.
Adding some screenshots to the OP for what I'm seeing with it so far.
Do you have a TMobile sim in your phone? I ask because your screen shot shows Google fi and Verizon. You may want to put the TMobile sim in and see if that changes anything.
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Do you have a TMobile sim in your phone? I ask because your screen shot shows Google fi and Verizon. You may want to put the TMobile sim in and see if that changes anything.
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I tried that too. FI and Verizon were to see if the phone recognized it was unlocked. Talked to T-mo support again just to double check everything and it shows as unlocked. Not sure why the phone still doesn’t want to allow oem unlock.
I thought the device had to be paid off and past a 40 day period. Also, I remember years back you needed a token to be able unlock the bootloader. I don't know if that is still a thing or not.
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I thought the device had to be paid off and past a 40 day period. Also, I remember years back you needed a token to be able unlock the bootloader. I don't know if that is still a thing or not.
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The token is not needed anymore, at least on the pixel. Concerning being paid off and 40 day period, some, including myself were able to ask and get a tmobile rep to unlock the sim, which in turn provided the unlock bootloader functionality. For example, I'm on a payment plan and sim was unlocked a few days after getting the phone back on the initial release date in October.
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The token is not needed anymore, at least on the pixel. Concerning being paid off and 40 day period, some, including myself were able to ask and get a tmobile rep to unlock the sim, which in turn provided the unlock bootloader functionality. For example, I'm on a payment plan and sim was unlocked a few days after getting the phone back on the initial release date in October.
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I haven’t heard of a token being needed for quite some time (older pixels) but I would love if there was one right about now!
So far I have been on several chats with T-Mobile and Tforce with no luck in a resolution. They say that all they can do is the sim unlock, which is done and works perfectly. Also verified it isn’t a temp unlock but a full one. I still have yet to be able to toggle the OEM unlock switch.
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I haven’t heard of a token being needed for quite some time (older pixels) but I would love if there was one right about now!
So far I have been on several chats with T-Mobile and Tforce with no luck in a resolution. They say that all they can do is the sim unlock, which is done and works perfectly. Also verified it isn’t a temp unlock but a full one. I still have yet to be able to toggle the OEM unlock switch.
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Someone in another thread (I cannot recall which one) mentioned a factory reset as an option that worked for him/her. That is, after a factory reset, they were able to enable OEM unlocking. You may want to try that. (It does wipe data). Hope it works for you.
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Someone in another thread (I cannot recall which one) mentioned a factory reset as an option that worked for him/her. That is, after a factory reset, they were able to enable OEM unlocking. You may want to try that. (It does wipe data). Hope it works for you.
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That Is one of the many things I have tried so far. I wish it has worked. Not really worried about data loss so I’ve been trying a variety of things.
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That Is one of the many things I have tried so far. I wish it has worked. Not really worried about data loss so I’ve been trying a variety of things.
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I'm out of ideas. Wish I could be more helpful.
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I'm out of ideas. Wish I could be more helpful.
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Yeah I’m out of them too. Outside of flat out replacing the device, if they even let me since it still works and there’s technically “nothing wrong” with it.
We shall see. I appreciate your help though!
Is this a qualcomm chip in this device. If so my method might just ungray the switch.
You'll want to factory reset your phone for the OEM button to be selectable. When you unlock your bootloader that factory resets your phone anyways so it shouldn't be a big deal. Had same issue and after factory resetting and rebooting the button magically no longer grayed out.
There's a reddit thread that discusses this, that's what helped me
Stupid question what version android you on also did you enroll in the beta software at all sorry I can't help I'm just throwing that out there to give others more idea also do you think t mobile got confused and just sim unlocked your phone and not activated OEM unlocking there end
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You'll want to factory reset your phone for the OEM button to be selectable. When you unlock your bootloader that factory resets your phone anyways so it shouldn't be a big deal. Had same issue and after factory resetting and rebooting the button magically no longer grayed out.
There's a reddit thread that discusses this, that's what helped me
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Tensor is not snapdragon it's based on exynos not sure if I spelt that right