Hello,
Does sound coming out from front stereo speakers sound balanced? Does top or bottom speaker sound louder than the other?
And does it have powerful DAC for 3.5mm headphone port?
Last Xperia I had was Z5 Premium. It's speakers sounded very unbalanced. I don't remember which side, but one side was noticeably louder than the other, which was very annoying to listen to. The other phone I'm seriously considering is ROG Phone 5. It's got same size of speakers on the both end, so it's speakers are perfectly balanced, and also have powerful Quad DAC for 3.5 mm port. However, it's biggest cons are of course the cameras and screen if you compare with Xperia 1 III. I think I can let go of 3.5mm port, but if speakers don't sound balanced, it'd could be a deal breaker for me.
Sitti01 said:
Hello,
Does sound coming out from front stereo speakers sound balanced? Does top or bottom speaker sound louder than the other?
And does it have powerful DAC for 3.5mm headphone port?
Last Xperia I had was Z5 Premium. It's speakers sounded very unbalanced. I don't remember which side, but one side was noticeably louder than the other, which was very annoying to listen to. The other phone I'm seriously considering is ROG Phone 5. It's got same size of speakers on the both end, so it's speakers are perfectly balanced, and also have powerful Quad DAC for 3.5 mm port. However, it's biggest cons are of course the cameras and screen if you compare with Xperia 1 III. I think I can let go of 3.5mm port, but if speakers don't sound balanced, it'd could be a deal breaker for me.
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I don’t think anyone has the 1M3 yet. But as far as the DAC, I have the 1M2 and some high end in ear earphones from Campfire Audio and some from Sennheiser and I have a couple of expensive DACs that connect via USB C and honestly I get the same high quality sound with my external DACs as when I plug straight in to the 3.5mm port. I have some other earphones and headphones with a 4.4mm balanced cable so I use an external DAC for those, but mainly just plug in to my Xperia. I expect the same or better DAC in the new phone.
Are they using the S Master DAC or are they not disclosing what the DAC is?
The DAC is absolutely top notch. I have the fiio q5s and xduoo 05 bal. I think it's just as good as the xduoo and better than the fiio. The sound is tuned to be very smooth. Smoother than the two said DACs. So it's a god sent if you have bright sounding headphones too harsh to listen to.
As for the speakers, balanced, good but not impressive
i can confirm the 1 iii has a terrific built in DAC. i have some (IMO) high end IEMs. I tested my campfire audio atlas and polaris mk2. I also have a couple of ifi audio DACs that I think are well regarded (hip dac and an iDSD). plugging into the 1 iii directly in its headphone jack sounds great. i don’t notice any difference as compared to a separate DAC.
I have both Rog Phone5 and xperia1 iii, I think Rog Phone5 speaker effect is much better than xperia1 iii, as for the use of 3.5mm playback, Rog Phone5 performance is very bad, xperia 1iii seems to have a built-in amplifier but the decoding is still using the processor built-in dac, xperia 1iii has Sony's tuning so good listening experience
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Hello all,
Just a curiosity I noticed. When using the included headphones with the in-line mic, the sound quality is really very good and the volumes far higher. However, when I try to use my Sennheiser HD 202-II headphones, I notice that the sound volume decreases greatly. For instance, what used to be loud at 12/30 with the headset, doesn't get loud until 22/30. I know it's a small annoyance, but the sound quality seems to suffer as well. Or maybe it's just the fact that I'm coming from a Zune HD whose quality spoiled me completely?
Anyway, was wondering if this could be alleviated by buying a pair of headphones with an in-line microphone. Can anyone recommend any? This Sony set is definitely intriguing (http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/...&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=467128533&pf_rd_i=468294) but there aren't any reviews yet.
Thanks for any suggestions.
It's more likely due to differences in impedance and sensitivity - I have no problem with earbuds that do not have an inline mic.
For headphones with low sensitivity, consider an external headphone amp like one of the FiiO amps.
Thanks, didn't realize the included earbuds had an in-line mic. I bought a pair of Klipsch s4's that improve the sound a great deal. I don't think I'd ever need a mic, the one built into the player seems to pick up very well.
There are some external stereo microphones for IOS that plug into the headphone jack rather than the dock connector. For instance, the IK Multimedia iRig MIC Cast.
They claim that they work on Android as well.
Well, they may work, but do they provide better sound quality than the internal phone microphone, turning it into a decent digital recorder for music, for example? (with the right software, of course).
My question isn't really whether those microphones are better quality than the internal microphones, as I assume they are. But does the headphone jack on Android phones (mine is the Galaxy S4) really provide the input capability for better quality sound, including in stereo?
Of course that jack can transfer sound in both directions, headset and microphone, as it is a phone. For output, the phone provides quality stereo music output to headphones, as modern phones are also music players. However, the microphones on phone stereo headsets are generally low quality monaural microphones only suitable for phone calls, usually not better than the internal microphone, might be worse.
So the question is--is the input function of that jack capable of providing quality stereo input, if one has a quality stereo microphone attached? (No matter how good quality the microphone is, if that jack really cannot transmit that quality sound, but reduces it to a very low resolution and frequency-reduced monaural sound, no point at all in attaching such a microphone.
Anyone know about the input capabilities of the headphone jacks on Android phones. (If it varies from phone to phone, then how about mine, the Galaxy S4?)
Thanks in advance for your input.
Anyone?
Excellent line of thought. Where are the audiophiles? This may be a better option than an expensive Rode mic.
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http://rungunshoot.com/can-you-ditch-your-wireless-lavalier-microphone-for-a-clip-on-voice-recorder/
Hi all
my brother just bought LG V10 and the sound quality is great and so was mine until i started listening to music with V10
i know it has an extra sound chip but i really think that Z2 has the potential to be that good too
the question is how can i get the most audio quality with Z2 ?
which headphones do you recommend ?
i have the standard MH410c headphones that were in Z2 box , should i get the noise cancelling headphones ?
is there any software modification i can do ? (i currently use stock firmware but its rooted)
I bought the noise cancellation earphones and they are really good. The sound it's really great for me.
There are 3 things you can do as far as I know
-> Buy a better set of headphones
-> Buy a dac
-> Use software such as viper4android or sound mods.
In my opinion, you should start by fiddling with the software because a good pair of headphones is pretty expensive, and so are most dacs out there
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There are 3 things you can do as far as I know
-> Buy a better set of headphones
-> Buy a dac
-> Use software such as viper4android or sound mods.
In my opinion, you should start by fiddling with the software because a good pair of headphones is pretty expensive, and so are most dacs out there
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what headphones are recommended with z2 ?
sony noise cancelling ? or can i buy a pair of good yamaha headphones and expect improved quality too ?
Mokiwipeout said:
There are 3 things you can do as far as I know
-> Buy a better set of headphones
-> Buy a dac
-> Use software such as viper4android or sound mods.
In my opinion, you should start by fiddling with the software because a good pair of headphones is pretty expensive, and so are most dacs out there
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About DAC - if you want to use it, you should use digital connection between phone and DAC. How you gonna to do that? As far I know the only way to do that is connection by Wi-Fi or Bluetooth but if you choose A2DT you loose quality. I don't know any DAC with Wi-Fi connection. In iPods you just make line out cable and than connect DAC by that. I really want to know any line out before amplifier in Xperia.
Sound mods are good enough for speaker, but it's can't do better sound on poor headphones. Start with that. Of course you can try some mods, but I think, and I'm telling that as drummer and sound engineer, that can't really help. Built tools in our phones are just enough.
I recommend to try AKG K518. But if you want in-ear headphones you can try noise canceling sony ear buds. But that's one have a lot of high frequencies and built-in equalizer haven't enough bars to equalize it. I was using a lot shure E2C and ultimate ears fi but that's IEM (in ear monitors) so that's have nearly flat frequencies response with cut-down high frequencies.
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regarding bluetooth headset, Z2 supports APTX, which should make wireless audio via bluetooth sounds better. Of course, the headphone must supports it too.
If you are listening to mp3 files I don't think it's worth to get expensive earbuds. Just the Sony NC earbuds with Viper4Android FX. Guaranteed soundgasms!
You can use DAC with usb otg connection. I'm using Hifiman HM-101, you just need to connect it and it works. Sound quality and loudness of it is much better then internal Z2 sound chip.
Im using HTC Sensation XE earphones and the sound is very good. Depends on what music you listen to and do you like clear or bassy sound. These are christal clear, I turn off all sound enhancements and get really good experience.
Zspitter said:
what headphones are recommended with z2 ?
sony noise cancelling ? or can i buy a pair of good yamaha headphones and expect improved quality too ?
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Well, you are going to spend a lot of money if you want to buy a good pair of headphones...
Probably more than 50€...
Plus, the headphones that came with the phone are pretty sh!tty, save for their noise cancelling feature, which in my case is fairly useless anyway.
However, if you are intending on buying expensive headphones, make sure that they have either a fairly low impendance, or get a dac. The phone might not be able to drive the headphones, it is somewhat common with truly expensive headphones.
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About DAC - if you want to use it, you should use digital connection between phone and DAC. How you gonna to do that? As far I know the only way to do that is connection by Wi-Fi or Bluetooth but if you choose A2DT you loose quality. I don't know any DAC with Wi-Fi connection. In iPods you just make line out cable and than connect DAC by that. I really want to know any line out before amplifier in Xperia.
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As another one said, there are USB OTG dacs too
But they are fairly expensive as far as I know
I use AKG Y50BT with APTX. Just a suggestion.
The basic earbuds without noisecanceling that come with the z2 have a terrible quality, Sony should be ashamed of themselves to include such worthless junk with a flagship product.
I bought the noisecanceling ones lately, just to try as they are for less than €30 including shipping on amazon and they do sound a lot better.
Still, earbuds and good sound quality just don't go together in my humble opinion. Although I have never tried high end earbuds, the sound of big 40 or 50mm headphones is just so much fuller and more complete that I cannot imagine those tiny things capable of that.
Plus that over ear models are a lot more comfortable if you listen for longer periods.
Use Xtreme music mod
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Hi, I'm planning to order Le Max 2 and I cannot find any comments about the audio quality via 3.5mm adapter.
I use Sennheiser IE80s which have a 3.5mm jack and I'm sure there are no USB CDLA headphones yet which will outperform IE80s so I'm left with the adapter or discrete digital to audio converter (DAC).
What are your thoughts about the audio quality via the adapter?
My worry is that the DAC in the adapter cable is very poor quality and sounds exceptionally bad.
From GSMarena review:
"Solid audio output
We were a little worried how dropping the dedicated audio jack will affect the quality of the output but the Le Max 2 showed that there’s nothing to worry about. Beside the inconvenience of having to carry an adapter around, the phablet really nailed this part of our test.
It delivered excellent output when used with an active external amplifier, getting top marks for clarity and garnishing them with nicely high volume levels. Degradation caused by headphones is minimal too with a moderate hike in stereo crosstalk being the only notable change. Volume remained high for a pretty great overall showing.
Source:
http://www.gsmarena.com/leeco_le_max_2-review-1449p6.php
(bottom part of the page)
I am still waiting for my Le Max 2 to arrive so I can't answer from personal experience
Hope this helps
Helps a lot, thanks!
An opposing view of user "smulik" can be found here:
http://forum.le.com/in/index.php?th...cdla-earphones-over-the-regular-3-5-mm.12259/
I read a lot of threads back when the Poco F1 was released and a lot of people complained about low volume of audio output from headphone jack and low clarity.
It is very hard to compare audio quality if you dont have 2 devices side by side.
So I request people who have the Poco F1 and some other phone like the Redmi Note Pro, Moto, Nokia etc to compare the volume and audio clarity.
If you have MIUI device use the same audio settings.
Can anyone please do this?
Edit: Sorry for double post. Thread was not showing up so I replied in the other post.
Volume was really low for a while. Now it is fine. Audio quality seems good enough.
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Volume was really low for a while. Now it is fine. Audio quality seems good enough.
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What about audio quality? Do you have any phone to compare side by side.
The internal speaker and loud and clear. It does seem to be a good bit better than my Mi Max on headphone jack. You shouldn't have a problem.
adfds said:
I read a lot of threads back when the Poco F1 was released and a lot of people complained about low volume of audio output from headphone jack and low clarity.
It is very hard to compare audio quality if you dont have 2 devices side by side.
So I request people who have the Poco F1 and some other phone like the Redmi Note Pro, Moto, Nokia etc to compare the volume and audio clarity.
If you have MIUI device use the same audio settings.
Can anyone please do this?
Edit: Sorry for double post. Thread was not showing up so I replied in the other post.
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3.5 Headphone sound is low compared to other devices ..
For my part, I'm really impressed by the sound quality of this device (for the headphone jack at least, I don't use the speakers for music).
I'm currently using a Sennheiser Momentum (Circum-aural, M2 model). I listen to music with it on my Honor 5C (previous phone), my Asus laptop (which has a great headphone jack). I'd say that, for a mobile phone, it's one of the best jack output you can get - which is especially impressive given the price tag of this device.
The crosstalk is pretty good, though the instruments are not as separated and the sound stage not as clear as on my laptop. The only problem you may face with this output if you are using high-impedance headphones, because the Pocophone doesn't have a very good output power.
That's all I have to say
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3.5 Headphone sound is low compared to other devices ..
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What is the best budget earphone (below 20$) that can be used with Poco F1?? (should have enough bass and loudness)
With my samsung OME earphones it sounds very dry
I have seen some reviews saying KZ ES4 is quite good for the price?
will that work well with the POCO F1?
ClementNerma said:
For my part, I'm really impressed by the sound quality of this device (for the headphone jack at least, I don't use the speakers for music).
I'm currently using a Sennheiser Momentum (Circum-aural, M2 model). I listen to music with it on my Honor 5C (previous phone), my Asus laptop (which has a great headphone jack). I'd say that, for a mobile phone, it's one of the best jack output you can get - which is especially impressive given the price tag of this device.
The crosstalk is pretty good, though the instruments are not as separated and the sound stage not as clear as on my laptop. The only problem you may face with this output if you are using high-impedance headphones, because the Pocophone doesn't have a very good output power.
That's all I have to say
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I agree. Pocophone has one of the most impressive audio outputs I have ever had on a phone. Besides my Pocophone I have both an LG G7 and LG V10 so I know how well phone can sound with quality output. the Pocophone is really not too far behind them. That says something. Some people confuse audio quality with volume.
With Mi Sound Enhancer enabled with the right type of headphones it sounds very well and then you can further tweak it to your liking with the equalizer that is better than the one on LG phones. Very good spacious sound on the Pocophone.