Hello Folks,
I have a question in my mind, Over the year i have used many devices and on which i have used many Custom ROM.
Why do we have the ROM update option Missing on most of them, if any ROM does have it then its broken ?
I mean, our devs here are way too qualified to do that, if they can develop and port these roms i mean they can definitely do the auto OTA thing right ?
Can someone please explain me where I am wrong ? Its not done yet means there must be a huge challenge which i am not aware of ?
Thanks.
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Hey guys !
I've been around here for many years but have allways been using Windows Mobile phones. I've had a Hero for about a year and i must say that i am very pleased with it. It works so damn good ! I've been flashing roms on windows mobile phones and even created roms my self.
However this Android / Linux world is so new to me that i have no idea what i need to do in order to simply flash a rom on my Hero!
What i get is that i need to root my device. There are some few guides for this in the wiki but i still do not know if my Hero is a Virgin og a Telus. How can i see this?
Also i see a lot of Linux based talk and commands (i presume) that i do not understand anything of. Do we have any desciption of the most common used commands and such stuff so new people like me can get a better understanding of what you guys are actually talking about?
When i learn all this i will edit the wiki with the information. And as i am new it is easier for me to fill in what is missing if you understand
.. And yes i have searched!
Da9L said:
Hey guys !
I've been around here for many years but have allways been using Windows Mobile phones. I've had a Hero for about a year and i must say that i am very pleased with it. It works so damn good ! I've been flashing roms on windows mobile phones and even created roms my self.
However this Android / Linux world is so new to me that i have no idea what i need to do in order to simply flash a rom on my Hero!
What i get is that i need to root my device. There are some few guides for this in the wiki but i still do not know if my Hero is a Virgin og a Telus. How can i see this?
Also i see a lot of Linux based talk and commands (i presume) that i do not understand anything of. Do we have any desciption of the most common used commands and such stuff so new people like me can get a better understanding of what you guys are actually talking about?
When i learn all this i will edit the wiki with the information. And as i am new it is easier for me to fill in what is missing if you understand
.. And yes i have searched!
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Theunlockr.com is an excellent source of information on rooting/flashing your Hero.
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Theunlockr.com is an excellent source of information on rooting/flashing your Hero.
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Seconded.
And when you're unlocked, check out Villain and Vanillain ROM's (check out previous post), definitely two of the best
if you want to know if your phone is rooted download and install "Super user" and run it,you will then know if your phone is rooted or not.
I,like you,was a WM user and found android to be more complicated,but in fact it´s not...once you root your phone and install Amon-RA recovery ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4549551&postcount=1 ) its much easier and simple to do things.
theres a sticky in this sub-forum with wiki-guides,read it!
Branwen said:
Seconded.
And when you're unlocked, check out Villain and Vanillain ROM's (check out previous post), definitely two of the best
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True used a lot those roms.
Waiting patiently for a Vanillain rom based in eris dump.
Right now im still using AychTeeSee's just to be able to use the Buuf Theme
I'm in the exact same situation as Da9L . Could you please let me know if flashing a new ROM will also change the Firmware version?
Currently my firmware is 1.5. I've seen on a friend's G1 the voice search widget and I'm dying to get that on my device. From what I've been told, i need to get a newer firmware, but I've got no idea on how to do this.
Any help would be appreciated ^_^
Some questions:
So the short line of the process of flashing a custom rom is when using unbranded htc hero:
1. Downgrade my software to 1.76, as iam using the newest
2. Root the device acording to _this_ guide
3. Perform a backup
4. Flash the custom rom as i flash a stock rom?
Is that it? It leads me to some more questions
What is this "recovery image" and is there any reason to flash a new one?
And why is there any reason to change this at all ?
How do i get danish xt9 for sms?
And please i have a feeling that i am getting this wrong.. Can you please explain to me the procedure of doing all this ?
Is there any benefit by flashing a rom?
I mean the stock rom actually runs pretty good and is stable. A custom rom is likely to be a little more unstable than a stock rom, but often give you more speed and newer features. This is when we are talking Windows Mobile, but is it the same here? What are the pros and cons by flashing a custom rom over the stock rom?
Da9L said:
Is there any benefit by flashing a rom?
I mean the stock rom actually runs pretty good and is stable. A custom rom is likely to be a little more unstable than a stock rom, but often give you more speed and newer features. This is when we are talking Windows Mobile, but is it the same here? What are the pros and cons by flashing a custom rom over the stock rom?
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It varies depending on the ROM tbh. It's a bit like the high-tech version of 'how long's a piece of string'?
Really, you're likely to get improved performance, root permissions, user interface tweaks, different versions of applications that are better than the default ones, maybe a custom kernel (if it's a 1.5 release you're looking at).
The custom kernels can have better performance due to optimisations in them. Not sure how much of this is like winmo (never had a winmo phone, all I know is that you are able to install alternative ROMs on them), but with android the core OS is open source, so you get more performance boosts under the hood.
Anyone able to add to that?
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It varies depending on the ROM tbh. It's a bit like the high-tech version of 'how long's a piece of string'?
Really, you're likely to get improved performance, root permissions, user interface tweaks, different versions of applications that are better than the default ones, maybe a custom kernel (if it's a 1.5 release you're looking at).
The custom kernels can have better performance due to optimisations in them. Not sure how much of this is like winmo (never had a winmo phone, all I know is that you are able to install alternative ROMs on them), but with android the core OS is open source, so you get more performance boosts under the hood.
Anyone able to add to that?
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That sounds great. However, since this is so new to me i do not know what new tweaks and apps i will be able to use and get if you follow me? When i have flashed a new custom rom, propably android 2.1, i do not know what new things it has and therefore where and how to use these new functions. And does the real advantage in a custom rom also get to a normal user or is the advantages more directed at the developers or?
Hello everyone,
I am new here and french, so i am already sorry for my bad english !
I have a transformer prime and i am looking for the good process to root it and change the stock ROM.
So, whats' your opinion and advices :
- for the best root process ?
- what are the apps for root ?
- for the best custom ROM (easy to use, good performance) ?
Sorry if another thread has the same topic !
Have a nice day,
Matthieu
huhhh said:
Hello everyone,
I am new here and french, so i am already sorry for my bad english !
I have a transformer prime and i am looking for the good process to root it and change the stock ROM.
So, whats' your opinion and advices :
- for the best root process ?
- what are the apps for root ?
- for the best custom ROM (easy to use, good performance) ?
Sorry if another thread has the same topic !
Have a nice day,
Matthieu
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Hi Mattieu,
You will probably be told by some that you should have searched first but unless you know what you are searching for it is kind of difficult since I see this is your first post. You need to decide how far you would like to go with this to be honest. First you can root your stock rom, you can install a custom rom, you can unlock your bootloader (this voids your warrenty) but after that you can install a custom recovery do backups and install custom roms. Also you will be in a position to use nvflash which will allow you to recvoer from most software bricks.
Rooting and playing with roms with no nand backup can be slightly dangerous but like I say you need to decide on your comfort level first.... Also if you go beyond the stock rom you may not be able to get any ota updates depending on what you do. If you unlock you definately cannot get ota updates but as soon as there is an offical release of a new rom, the developers have a custom version within a couple of weeks to a month...
This is great for rooting. Simple as pie.
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This is great for rooting. Simple as pie.
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As mentioned the device is easy to root. I have stuck with the Asus ROM and have not unlocked but I have rooted and used Titanium Backup to freeze apps (including system apps) that you don't think you need. This is a really safe approach for a beginner because frozen apps can be easily restored. This is important when working with system apps. On my Droid 3 phone for example, there were some system apps that I didn't think I needed but when I froze them I found that I actually did need them (i.e. it caused something else to break). Rooting also will let you overclock if you want to.
The other point is that the release of the Asus Android 4.1 release is probably imminent, though we don't know exactly when - it should be soon. Personally I'm going to stick with what I've got until after that happens just to give the new Asus rom a chance. You will not get this update if you unlock, though the custom ROM developers will probably have their own version of it out not too long after the stock release. Still, I'm taking a wait and see approach for the time being.
Thx for your responses !
So, i should wait for the new ROM stock version (jellybean isn't it ?). OK
But i can already root the tablet, there's no link with the ROM ?
And before running the root, i should use titanium backup to save my actual configuration, in order to restore it if there's a problem ?
I've just started using CM9 again haven been on stock Samsung ROMs for most of my S3 usage. I remember seeing something on Twitter about custom ROMs now supporting OTA In Android and assumed that CM9 would be one of the first ROMs to use it. I don't see I anywhere though. Is it not built into the latest Cyanogenmod ROMs out of the box (as it were)?
If not, why not? I would have expected every custom ROM to have this as part of their package. I love OTA updates and having them in a custom ROM will make the experience seem so much more professional.
Just intrigued, chaps. It's not the end of the world but I was kind of expecting to see it. I tried downloading what appears to be the official app but when I try to install it it says that the developer hasn't added support for it. Which I suppose does answer my question but doesn't provide a reason!
Thanks anyway.
I am totally new to android and heard about rooting , installing ROM on phone, so i have few ques regarding it, pls help me by giving brief explanations.....
i read on net that by rooting any phone , it will give us more good response when we use it.
So i want to know,
1> what is the difference b/w rooting and installing new Rom, both are same or different ?
2> what is the difference b/w custom and stock ROM's or other available. and which are best and why?
3> and if i want to root my phone and want to install new ROM, then what i need to do (pls suggest stepwise).
4> and last one, if rooting and installing ROm are both different then , what are their individual profit and uses ?
pls help me...... thanks in advance for helping others ......
nirwansingh said:
I am totally new to android and heard about rooting , installing ROM on phone, so i have few ques regarding it, pls help me by giving brief explanations.....
i read on net that by rooting any phone , it will give us more good response when we use it.
So i want to know,
1> what is the difference b/w rooting and installing new Rom, both are same or different ?
2> what is the difference b/w custom and stock ROM's or other available. and which are best and why?
3> and if i want to root my phone and want to install new ROM, then what i need to do (pls suggest stepwise).
4> and last one, if rooting and installing ROm are both different then , what are their individual profit and uses ?
pls help me...... thanks in advance for helping others ......
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1.Rooting is different from installing custom roms.
Rom is the android term for OS which is of many types.
Rooting is enabling ur device to access, edit & delete the rom components which include the built in applications to the codes that run the OS.
2. Stock roms are those which come along with ur device from the manufacturers which are usually called firmwares.
Custom roms are those which are developed by the android developers for the comfortability with many additional features! They are rated based on their performance, stability, userinterface, etc. The famous stable custom rom developing team is Cyanogenmod.
3. The are many methods for rooting and installing custom rom which are strictly based on ur phone model!
4. Rooting gives u further power! Custom roms gives u new experience in every aspect which means that the rules are bent for our comfortability!
HIT THANKS BUTTON IF I HELPED!
Actually I have many question
I think when a newbie like me start to work on rom development then there are several questions arises in mind basically like what I am going to ask here, my purpose is to get all this doubts cleared before starting so that I can start to focus on things. I don't know if my questions will help other newbies like me but it will literally help me a lot .
I am trying to develop a custom rom for ascend g700 as i have seen it among the most hated device among developers , no one want to do anything for this phone and it can accomodate a lot of upgradation. I have seen g700 users begging inside CM forum to build a latest ROM for this device, I have also seen g700 owners begging on huawei website to upgrade their devices but huawei doesn't even feel like to give a word to it. and I feel really bad about this .
So i just want to build a good looking, working, clean, latest by look and feature rom for Ascend g700 for all users, there are various reasons why I want to do that:
1) One of the biggest reason why I am here is I want to see g700 users smiling with joy that finally somebody has updated their device, I want all g700 owners to feel worth buying the device.
2) No working custom rom is available for this device yet.
3) No Cyanogenmod rom available.
4) This device configuration seems potentially great which literally needs update (atleast up to kitkat).
5) And personally I don't like UI emotion of this phone besides that google play store has some bug which makes icons background looks black which is a sore to eyes, Huawei did nothing for this device yet except just earned the bucks from it. I hate the companies who are ignorant about their customers.
I don't want to bore anyone reading my thread but i have lots of questions to resolve before i start to develop something for this device and I hope i will succeed.
Okay so let's get started with my questions, all veterans are requested to kindly share their vast knowledge and help me understanding the facts. thanks in advance .
Objective: what i am trying to do is, trying to find out the latest possible (Lollipop) rom which I can use as base rom to flash this device (Ascend G700) or just build a custom one fully working.
1 First: Are there any neutral latest android rom versions are available from google official websites to start using on any device or to start develop it for any particular device?
If "yes" then from where i can get it?
If "No" then from where the companies get their android roms on first hand as a clean plain base android rom to make it their own rom?
2 second: Can i just install any rom of any phone and it will start to work?
If "No" then what maybe the problems that I would first encounter?, what can I do to fix that any such known problems?
3 Third: I have heard about porting rom by changing things inside rom like replacing kernel of base rom with my stock rom, Kernel of my stock rom (4.2.1) can work with lollipop rom (5.0.0)? if yes then which lollipop rom would be best to use for (G700) and from where I can get one?
4 Fourth: Can I use my old kernel, camera and radio from stock rom in newer lollipop rom will it work? is it possible to do that?
5 Fifth: Can I use any kernel on any phone? or there are any specific particular to device types? or is it necessary to use the old kernel?
6 Sixth: If I flash my phone with custom new rom the radio will also be flashed with it automatically? even if I doesn't want to? How would I know that the rom i am going to use contains the flash files for radio also? and can i remove that? and use rest of the rom?
7 Seventh: If i flash my phone with new custom rom what are chances that it's camera will not work? or radio maybe affected?
8 Eighth: What can i do to port my camera from stock rom to new custom rom which I want to flash. the camera of old rom (4.2.1) can work with lollipop (5.0.0)?
9 Nineth: The device is a dual sim, any special thing to keep in mind before flashing a rom? a rom should necessarily be valid for dual sim? are there any specific types?
Please all the veterans from XDA are requested to provide inside to all these questions of mine, so that I can start working on my custom rom, I seriously want to upgrade this phone please help
Any help from anyone who knows anything related to any question of mine are welcome to share their knowledge.
Thanks in advance .