I on my xiaomi mi9 I installed the battery increased by 4000mha, I changed the kernel values with a file manager by making the phone read the same battery capacity and I do six hours of display on! To do this you must have root permissions with any custom rom (does not work with miui!) and buy 4000mha battery ...
the path to take with franco kernel manager is:
/sys/class/power_supply/bms/charge_full"
/sys/class/power_supply/battery/charge_ful
Through a file manager, that is the path to follow to edit the file. After doing the procedure you can go back to Miui with the kernel value unchanged at 4000mha ... fantastic isn't it?
where did you buy this enlarged batery? give me a link please
Hello, unfortunately I have a problem. The changes I make through FKM are not saved. They go back to their previous values. The change by the regular manager also failed. Anyone able to help me? Thanks!
All increased batteries are fake. I have bought a 7000mAh one one taobao (just to try) and it is still showing 3300. Writing a bad comment to the seller and got harassed on the phone like crazy until I agreed to erase my comment. On the positive side the battery is running ok as a 3300mAh and the seller just gave my money back!
Your 7000 mAh battery is obviously fake, who would've thought
Qidamin said:
All increased batteries are fake. I have bought a 7000mAh one one taobao (just to try) and it is still showing 3300. Writing a bad comment to the seller and got harassed on the phone like crazy until I agreed to erase my comment. On the positive side the battery is running ok as a 3300mAh and the seller just gave my money back!
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But you must change size of battery in kernel. This isn't automatic... lol.
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jankes13 said:
But you must change size of battery in kernel. This isn't automatic... lol.
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Do you really think you can have a bigger battery capacity without having a bigger battery in size? I really doubt. The Mi9 pro has a 4000mAh battery and is 1mm thicker than normal Mi9. There are lots of different battery size on Taobao, from the original 3300mAh to 7000. Honestly do your battery really last longer after a full charge?
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Do you really think you can have a bigger battery capacity without having a bigger battery in size? I really doubt. The Mi9 pro has a 4000mAh battery and is 1mm thicker than normal Mi9. There are lots of different battery size on Taobao, from the original 3300mAh to 7000. Honestly do your battery really last longer after a full charge?
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Of course you can! I myself bought a battery with a declared capacity of 4000mAh. After checking it has 3943mAh. So everything is fine. The battery, being in the phone now, I have to charge a maximum of 3300mAh, because that's what is set in the settings. If you want to be cheated, they will always cheat you ...
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Do you really think you can have a bigger battery capacity without having a bigger battery in size?
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No, but I've already told you in another thread were you posted your claims that the battery (Lehehe 4000/4200 mAh) I've replaced is slightly thicker than the original battery.
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Honestly do your battery really last longer after a full charge?
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Yes, noticeably. Standby deep sleep time, SOT, amount of charge left at the end of the day, power throughout the weekend with less usage, power while using GCam... Everything improved. Checking with AIDA64, my old battery had about 2700 mAh charge left. The new one still has slightly below 4000 mAh after almost 8 months of usage. But I'm not the only one, every single user who swapped to this battery is giving the same feedback (2 friends and multiple other users on telegram groups).
-> you need to manually adjust the "charge_full" value once after the swap (root needed)
edit: to give more info on this, this isn't a fixed value, the system itself manages it and it will change by itself with time depending on the calculated / measured charge to give the estimated mAh capacity left. Don't mistake it for the "charge_full_design" value, which is permantently fixed to 3300 mAh (what's being reported to HW info apps which don't show the above value)
-> you need to charge longer after it reaches 100%, AIDA64 is a good indicator, as it will show you when its charging and when it's really fully charged, it takes at least 30min longer after showing 100% in the system
-> you obviously got fooled with your 7K battery, "do you really think you can have a bigger battery capacity without having a bigger battery in size?"
AcmE85 said:
No, but I've already told you in another thread were you posted your claims that the battery (Lehehe 4000/4200 mAh) I've replaced is slightly thicker than the original battery.
Yes, noticeably. Standby deep sleep time, SOT, amount of charge left at the end of the day, power throughout the weekend with less usage, power while using GCam... Everything improved. Checking with AIDA64, my old battery had about 2700 mAh charge left. The new one still has slightly below 4000 mAh after almost 8 months of usage. But I'm not the only one, every single user who swapped to this battery is giving the same feedback (2 friends and multiple other users on telegram groups).
-> you obviously got fooled with your 7K battery, "do you really think you can have a bigger battery capacity without having a bigger battery in size?"
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Sure if you change your old battery with a new one you will have improvement! but ok, maybe I can be wrong
Concerning being fooled it's a yes and no. I knew it would be fake so I didn't expect the battery to perform as a 7000mAh. As the comments were good I just had a try.
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-> you need to manually adjust the "charge_full" value once after the swap (root needed)
edit: to give more info on this, this isn't a fixed value, the system itself manages it and it will change by itself with time depending on the calculated / measured charge to give the estimated mAh capacity left. Don't mistake it for the "charge_full_design" value, which is permantently fixed to 3300 mAh (what's being reported to HW info apps which don't show the above value)
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Unfortunately, I have a problem with that. After changing the values to what I want, they go back to their original values. What program are you using to edit them? I currently have Android 12 and I am wondering if this is the cause of my problems.
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Unfortunately, I have a problem with that. After changing the values to what I want, they go back to their original values. What program are you using to edit them? I currently have Android 12 and I am wondering if this is the cause of my problems.
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You only have to edit one file:
root/sys/class/power_supply/bms/charge_full
Make sure you are in the BMS folder.
Root is needed. I use Solid Explorer to open the folder and edit the file.
Currently running Pixel Experience 12 and I can still edit and save it fine.
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You only have to edit one file:
root/sys/class/power_supply/bms/charge_full
Make sure you are in the BMS folder.
Root is needed. I use Solid Explorer to open the folder and edit the file.
Currently running Pixel Experience 12 and I can still edit and save it fine.
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I do literally the same ... Unfortunately, I get the message: Failed to copy the file from (path) to (path). I tried Total Commander, it didn't work either.
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I do literally the same ... Unfortunately, I get the message: Failed to copy the file from (path) to (path). I tried Total Commander, it didn't work either.
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It looks like the App isn't opening the file right in the folder, but caching it to another folder, editing, then wants to save it back which fails.
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It looks like the App isn't opening the file right in the folder, but caching it to another folder, editing, then wants to save it back which fails.
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Exactly! However, Total Commander it communicates that there is no place. I do not understand this...
Do you really think the manufacturer didn't use the largest battery possible?
If there's any additional space it's likely there for an important reason. The batteries are designed for reliability and safety. There's no wasted space.
A fully charged Li internal short caused meltdown will destroy the phone... collateral damage can be expected if this happens.
Hi, what particular kernel and ROM can I use this on? I saw geekerwan changing the sys/class/power_supply/bms/charge_full value by using a script on what I think is a stock MIUI ROM but I couldn't do the same on mine. Doing so using root explorer reverts the value back
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Hi, what particular kernel and ROM can I use this on? I saw geekerwan changing the sys/class/power_supply/bms/charge_full value by using a script on what I think is a stock MIUI ROM but I couldn't do the same on mine. Doing so using root explorer reverts the value back
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Did you solve the problem?
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Did you solve the problem?
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Hi, yes I was able to solve this problem but the solution is a bit more complex than I expected. Check my guide on it. I made it work on my raphael. Here's a link to a thread I made:
Making a multi-battery setup on your Mi 9T/K20/Pro, or any other Xiaomi Device
Hello everyone! Some time ago, I watched a video by Geekerwan on making a DIY Gaming Phone and I figured why not try it on my Mi 9T with a swapped K20 Pro motherboard. (More about the motherboard swap here). This could be done with other devices...
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Hi, I have a problem with my Ace. When I only use 2G and use my phone for calls/sms, my battery lasts for like 3 days. But if i have 100% full battery and I use the internet with (or without 3G), my battery lasts for like half an hour, drains from full to 0 and then phone turns off. If i turn on my phone again, it shows like 30% or more battery left, but if data connection is still on, I lose 1 percent in like every second.
This is not only with data connections. I drained my battery from 100% to 0 in like 1,5 hours with just looking some pictures and using the calculator. I would like to think my battery is dead, but it lasts like 3 days when used for calls/sms only.
I have tried recalibrating my battery many times, used different ROMs (stock and custom), still same.
Is there anything else I could do to check my battery status??
Anyway, I am looking for a new battery but not the original one. Im looking from eBay. I contacted the sellers and asked for the weights. Original battery weighs like 30g. I got replied that these two (2050mAh High Capacity Replacement Battery for Samsung Galaxy S5830 and aoonen 2PK NEW Li-Ion Battery for Samsung S5830 Galaxy ACE 1800mAh fast shipping) batteries weigh 50g and 60g. This makes them less likely to be the fake gold ones, or what do u guys think? Has anyone bought one of those batteries? Or can anyone recommend a battery with more capacity than the original one (1350mah)
I accidentally hit "thanks" button instead of reply
I'm 100% sure that something is wrong with your battery.
I've never heard about such long-life battery in Galaxy Ace.
3 days calls and texting ?
It's normal that battery drains faster when using mobile data, but not that fast.
If You can, ask a friend to borrow You battery from Galaxy Ace.
If everything will be okay then You'll know the naswer.
If other battery won"t last longer, then i suggest to check you phone for "short circuit".
Maybe something is wrong with your motherboard that is connected with 3G .. ?
okay thanks, can I use the battery from S5830i?
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okay thanks, can I use the battery from S5830i?
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I believe so, they both use the same sized battery (1350 mAH, Li-ion Batteries)
Though I may be wrong someone correct me if I am wrong.
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Hi,
I just bought two gold extended life (2450mAh) batteries for my Ace! I was meaning to test them against the stock one but hadn't got around to it yet. Didn't use the stock battery much as I think it's original to the phone which I recently bought 2nd hand.
If anyone wants me to do this test (properly) let me know.
Thinking about this; perhaps a few Ace owners could flash a common ROM and perform a standard discharge test. This would give us some baseline.
Regards,
MT
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Battery use
Hi
Im my SGA I have the same problem, usually lasts a day, using net 60% disappears in half an hour. Could be the browser configuration ? or the conditions of access to the network?
Is it's the browser, wich one is the best?
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Im my SGA I have the same problem, usually lasts a day, using net 60% disappears in half an hour. Could be the browser configuration ? or the conditions of access to the network?
Is it's the browser, wich one is the best?
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My batter is two years old and it works good.
I use CM7 and no super widgets. Maybe it saves energy.
Try another ROM, remove or switch off everything You don't need.
Maybe it will help You. If not, it's time to buy another battery.
Don't ask which browser is the best, because we don't know what You need.
I need my browser to browse websites. I don't use favourites on mobile phone, so everyone is the best.
mastertantoo said:
Hi,
I just bought two gold extended life (2450mAh) batteries for my Ace! I was meaning to test them against the stock one but hadn't got around to it yet. Didn't use the stock battery much as I think it's original to the phone which I recently bought 2nd hand.
If anyone wants me to do this test (properly) let me know.
Thinking about this; perhaps a few Ace owners could flash a common ROM and perform a standard discharge test. This would give us some baseline.
Regards,
MT
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There's an app called "Battery Drain". Try charging your phone to 100%, turn on Battery Drain and select everything except Vibrate, and let us know how long it takes to fully discharge.
I have a stock battery, and it lasted ~3 hours.
Myth
Hi.
Nothing works in my ROM, most of apps are useless (all?)
Changed to LastMyth, after some days I'll be back to share the experience
try to delete the battery.stats
real myth
Jenson25 said:
try to delete the battery.stats
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Hello Jenson.
Sorry to desapoint you but de advantage of deleting battery stats is a Myth [not The Lastmyth] :cyclops:
See this
I re-installed ZDBox (old version) and helps a little, probably have to use a kernel
let's wait and see
For clearing ram Try Fastreboot
It's an app n will not run all time like other task killer apps and widgets
just click on icon it will clear ram
The gold high-power batteries for this phone.. are they any good?. If you have bought one can you please give some kind of feedback on them as I am considering buying one. Stock battery just doesn't cut the mustard.
Thanks.
shivadow said:
The gold high-power batteries for this phone.. are they any good?. If you have bought one can you please give some kind of feedback on them as I am considering buying one. Stock battery just doesn't cut the mustard.
Thanks.
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Hi, if you use search you'll find lots of information, such as:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1098513
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1702524&page=2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1783344
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1702524
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1877831
everything is inconclusive, except that there are advantages to using the stock
I have tried many ways to calibrate it and my conclusion was that this broken.
I compare it with another and mine is somewhat swollen
New battery on the way
Wow, just too many variables! For instance.. Any idea how many mA the vibrator uses when typing with haptic feedback? What about the extra battery used by the radio when your in a poor reception area, does my micro-sd use more power than yours? Etc.
Battery life comparisons will only be meaningful in conditions where the battery is the only changed variable. So i would charge two or more batteries; discharge one, then another, measuring the times. Both batteries would need to be new unless you just want to compare something tired and worn with just out the factory.
Not 100% but I think it's relevant how many amps you take at a time, in relation to total capacity.. The chemical tech. may be difference, but lead-acid cells give differing amounts of charge dependent on temperature, and rate of discharge. In most applications capacity (C), is measured over 20 hours (C/20). C/100 will see many more amps capacity, and C/10, fewer! Also consider a used battery could last a considerable time, if only the high drain occasion is minimal. Something simple like the vibrator could send an old battery 'over the edge' if the drain is too high.
What does all this mean to me? Unless you wanna spend hours discharging your phone battery finding out (not really), get a fresh battery online; they still don't cost much and are easy to find. Gold batteries have been available for some time so go with your gut on that one! Perhaps, like me, you think it's worth the risk.
If you really love your phone and think you'll still be holding on to it in a couple of years time - you'll be thankfull you bought a spare battery or two while they were still cheap
Peace!
-mt-
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Hello, problems of battery are the most important in the management of smartphones increasingly sophisticated. I know of no silver bullet, so it makes sense to always have an alternate (note that battery life depends on time, even without use)
I found a small application, very cool, which is PowerTutor, which gives us interesting information from the battery usage. However'm with JuiceDefender Ultimate (free version exists). The only application which effectively spare battery was Greenpower. [all in gplay]
I hope I helped
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Hi, new battery from ebay :laugh:, now lasts a day under normal use and a day and a half with little use of the internet.
Not bad for the low price
Seems that lastmyth that is not worse than the others in the use of battery.
qashqool said:
Hi, new battery from ebay :laugh:, now lasts a day under normal use and a day and a half with little use of the internet.
Not bad for the low price
Seems that lastmyth that is not worse than the others in the use of battery.
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This is usually the fix. It's amazing how fast some batteries start failing. Old batteries and cold temperatures are usually the top cause of poor battery life, especially in secondhand phones.
Try Juice Defender :thumbup:
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This is a topic I started on Xperia Support Forums: http :// talk . sonymobile . com/t5/Xperia-X10-mini-pro/Performance-Issues-of-Battery-BST-38-on-Xperia-X10-mini-pro-U20i/m-p/402537
My Battery BST-38 is discharged so fast that I cannot even tap OK button on "Battery Power Status 15%, 10%, 5%" messages.
I have managed to open Service → Service tests menu and applied Battery Test. After some hours spent on battery test:
Result
REDUCED CAPACITY
I have stock software and hardware. Only some apps installed from Android Market. Nothing flashed, nothing rooted, nothing hacked. Maybe some cracked apps (for trial, for sure :angel: )
Nothing modified.
And my battery died after 10 months. All I have been doing to my U20i is daily recharging for sure.
So, the question is:
How can I get my batterie's health, fitness, performance back?
Or you can recommend other things, you are the pro.
(PS: I'm living in Türkiye.)
Peace and love.
Just remember- never discharge device completly
Charge it with the wall-charger only, NOT through usb.
Make it charge for about 3.5 hours every time, even when it says it's full.
Recharge it when it's somewhere between 15 and 20 percent left.
If you don't see improvements this way, you may need a new battery.
I should say thanks to you.
Now I just need one more question to be answered:
When I am going to buy new battery, how should I prefer it to get best strength / stamina / durability / performance? What kind of battery should I choose in manufacturer , #value of mAh, #value of Wh, etc. categories?
Note: Stock U20i battery says
Battery - BST-38
Li-Polymer - 3.7V
Type CBA - 0002018B GB/T 18287 - 2000 4.2V
970 mAh 3.6Wh
Made in China 2010
Have a look here
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Have a look here
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Thank you, sir. I checked your link to the topic but I've found nothing for me to buy/get in where I live.
So I have another Sony Ericsson BST-38 bought.
This one says:
Sony Ericsson
Battery - BST-38
Li-Polymer 3.6V
Type CBA-0002008
930mAh
Made in China.
This is from OEM, but mAh capacity is less. I will test it and post results as I can in some hours.
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Thank you, sir. I checked your link to the topic but I've found nothing for me to buy/get in where I live.
So I have another Sony Ericsson BST-38 bought.
This one says:
Sony Ericsson
Battery - BST-38
Li-Polymer 3.6V
Type CBA-0002008
930mAh
Made in China.
This is from OEM, but mAh capacity is less. I will test it and post results as I can in some hours.
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Well, after the test:
Result
REDUCED CAPACITY
again. I think lower mAh value is the reason but yet I'm not sure and I don't know.
How can I solve this problem?
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Well, after the test:
Result
REDUCED CAPACITY
again. I think lower mAh value is the reason but yet I'm not sure and I don't know.
How can I solve this problem?
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Did you wipe the battery stats, so it tests with a clean slate? You can try that on your old and on your new battery.
SmG67 said:
Did you wipe the battery stats, so it tests with a clean slate? You can try that on your old and on your new battery.
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Sorry I couldn't understand what exactly you meant, so I'm giving lots of answers:
Test results are being saved as */LOG files on SDCard with date informations without any need to overwrite.
On the phone, no hardware (including battery and inner-case) or software is modified after factory.
I have tested ex and newer batteries and ex one took 1,5 - 2 hours to test but new one took more than 3,5 hours. Then I got the same "Reduced Capacity" results for the tests on each battery.
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Sorry I couldn't understand what exactly you meant, so I'm giving lots of answers:
Test results are being saved as */LOG files on SDCard with date informations without any need to overwrite.
On the phone, no hardware (including battery and inner-case) or software is modified after factory.
I have tested ex and newer batteries and ex one took 1,5 - 2 hours to test but new one took more than 3,5 hours. Then I got the same "Reduced Capacity" results for the tests on each battery.
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You can wipe the battery history using for example: THIS app.
It will completely erase everything android thinks it knows about your battery, resulting in it treating your battery like new. It may change the opinion android has of your battery and thus give you a more reliable estimate, instead of working with, (what may be), old or invalid data.
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You can wipe the battery history using for example: THIS app.
It will completely erase everything android thinks it knows about your battery, resulting in it treating your battery like new. It may change the opinion android has of your battery and thus give you a more reliable estimate, instead of working with, (what may be), old or invalid data.
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Thank you for the trick, sir. I will try it.
I would like to inform you about new battery:
Altough new battery failed at the test (Battery Test in Service menu), it does just fine without anything abnormal.
I fully recharged it 18 hours ago, and since that I'm using my U20i as a casual user, my battery's status is 48% now. (in 18 hours: with mobile data traffic on, texting for ~1 hour, calling for 20 minutes, web browsing for 30 minutes, background services off and brightness full.) I think that performance is just good but I have no idea battery failed at test (as you mentioned, maybe test results needs to be wiped) OR just maybe it has less mAh (930mAh) than stock one (970mAh).
So I will find out what causes this.
Now I have one new question: How should I use my battery? I will charge it when it reaches 20%~15%, while recharging I will try to use not it as possible as I can. Any more tips or tricks?
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Thank you for the trick, sir. I will try it.
I would like to inform you about new battery:
Altough new battery failed at the test (Battery Test in Service menu), it does just fine without anything abnormal.
I fully recharged it 18 hours ago, and since that I'm using my U20i as a casual user, my battery's status is 48% now. (in 18 hours: with mobile data traffic on, texting for ~1 hour, calling for 20 minutes, web browsing for 30 minutes, background services off and brightness full.) I think that performance is just good but I have no idea battery failed at test (as you mentioned, maybe test results needs to be wiped) Oe just maybe it has less mAh (930mAh) than stock one (970mAh).
So I will find out what causes this.
Now I have one new question: How should I use my battery? I will charge it when it reaches 20%~15%, while recharging I will try to use not it as possible as I can. Any more tips or tricks?
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48% left after 18 hours with the usage you specified is not bad at all.
You can use it when it's charging, that's not a problem, but try to charge it through the wall-charger as much as possible, and not through usb.
SmG67 said:
48% left after 18 hours with the usage you specified is not bad at all.
You can use it when it's charging, that's not a problem, but try to charge it through the wall-charger as much as possible, and not through usb.
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Some people told me it's bad to discharge battery while recharging it, and I found it legit. But recharging is not a problem for me, because I will recharge it when it's night.
Can you or anyone recommend me anything more about battery health? Any advice will be appreciated.
ugurcansayan said:
Some people told me it's bad to discharge battery while recharging it, and I found it legit. But recharging is not a problem for me, because I will recharge it when it's night.
Can you or anyone recommend me anything more about battery health? Any advice will be appreciated.
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The wall-charger will deliver more juice than the phone needs when you use it, so it's not really discharging, just charging slower. That said, if you don't need to it's better to just let it charge.
As far as battery health is concerned, just don't let it go below 10%, emptying it completely is not good for this type of battery. There's not much else to it.
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The wall-charger will deliver more juice than the phone needs when you use it, so it's not really discharging, just charging slower. That said, if you don't need to it's better to just let it charge.
As far as battery health is concerned, just don't let it go below 10%, emptying it completely is not good for this type of battery. There's not much else to it.
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Thank you a lot, sir. I will always remember your advices. :good:
Oh - I almost forgot to ask - What should I do about overcharging? I mean, what to worry about?
Last week I received the 3000mAh MPJ battery. The fit is quite snug, probably because of the paper around the battery but of course it does fit
It came 60% charged so immediately loaded it up fully as I wanted to see how this one would hold up Once full decided to do a battery test. Unfortunately that day I also had to use navigation (and that, as we know, uses quite a lot of juice) but even doing that the screen on time was around 4 hours and the battery lasted the whole day. In my experience running CM12 (which I do) uses a bit more than stock LG Roms so this will also depend on the system setup of course.
Charged it up again and set out to do a more proper test. Results below. The battery lasted for 3 days in which 3 hours of screen on time were used. Did quite a lot of texting using Whatsapp, some browsing, updating the installed apps, made some backups to Dropbox etc. This for me is a great result!
Of course as the original battery is also 3000mAh the expected runtime will not differ. But for a replacement battery this one holds up to it's advertised capacity very well (which isn't as logical as it might sound) so for me it is recommended :good:
Hoi;
Is this in size the same as the original? where to buy?
Tourmans said:
Hoi;
Is this in size the same as the original? where to buy?
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Yes, the size is the same, as is the battery-life. Ideal as a spare/back-up :good:
You can buy it here for example
Is this battery wireless charging capable?
palmleq said:
Is this battery wireless charging capable?
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I have no idea. Don't have a QI charger (yet)
palmleq said:
Is this battery wireless charging capable?
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Afaik wireless charging depends on whether the phone supports it and d battery back door whether it has d circuit....doesn't depend on battery...correct me if am wrong
So my Moto Z 2016 fell into the Android 8.0 Oreo upgrade cluster**** and became a victim of the famous massive battery drainage, to the point it became impossible to use without keeping it plugged to a charger. Thing is one would logically assume this is a software issue, and therefore a rollback/downgrade would be enough to solve this problem. However, after dealing with multiple software upgrades and downgrades for 2-3 days straight with and without RSDLite in every imaginable way possible, I managed to install Android 6.0 Lollipop on the phone and everything works excellently, but the battery keeps having the same issues it had the second that phone got the lovely 8.0 update.
So my questions are: is it even remotely correct to assume the update caused physical damage to the battery? Or -even if I completely reinstalled a totally different Android version- there is still some part of the phone that contains an unmodifiable chunk of software that is corruptedly managing the battery information, therefore making buying a new battery irrelevant?
I'm asking this because I decided to believe in the first question as a yes and was about to proceed to buy a new battery AND a new glue to place the screen again back to where it is, but decided to make this thread to maybe avoid buying things that could've been unnecesary. Thanks in advance.
It's time to get a new battery.
Mine is pretty much okay with Oreo update back then. But after just 1++ year usage (bought it in Sept 2017), the battery life just dropped significantly.
Replaced it, and now it working fine. Even the repair center didn't factory reset my device (I'm on Omni ROM), so it couldn't be a software issue.
I can confirm new battery will solve the problem. I had tried everything before I ordered an original battery pack (made by Lg and my phone has juice for more than a day now. (a half before)
I think fast/turbo charging also kill the battery, so now I use a 1,5/2A charger
Ratawar said:
So my Moto Z 2016 fell into the Android 8.0 Oreo upgrade cluster**** and became a victim of the famous massive battery drainage, to the point it became impossible to use without keeping it plugged to a charger. Thing is one would logically assume this is a software issue, and therefore a rollback/downgrade would be enough to solve this problem. However, after dealing with multiple software upgrades and downgrades for 2-3 days straight with and without RSDLite in every imaginable way possible, I managed to install Android 6.0 Lollipop on the phone and everything works excellently, but the battery keeps having the same issues it had the second that phone got the lovely 8.0 update.
So my questions are: is it even remotely correct to assume the update caused physical damage to the battery? Or -even if I completely reinstalled a totally different Android version- there is still some part of the phone that contains an unmodifiable chunk of software that is corruptedly managing the battery information, therefore making buying a new battery irrelevant?
I'm asking this because I decided to believe in the first question as a yes and was about to proceed to buy a new battery AND a new glue to place the screen again back to where it is, but decided to make this thread to maybe avoid buying things that could've been unnecesary. Thanks in advance.
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garyarts said:
I can confirm new battery will solve the problem. I had tried everything before I ordered an original battery pack (made by Lg and my phone has juice for more than a day now. (a half before)
I think fast/turbo charging also kill the battery, so now I use a 1,5/2A charger
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Could you please post a link about the battery pack kit that you said? Is there any different to a Motorola's one (capacity, dimensions etc) ? Thank you.
To our dear friend, I suggest you replace the battery. You are not alone to that issue. It's worth buying new battery. Check this thread : https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-z/how-to/defective-battery-lots-moto-zhigh-t3781335
this one: https://www.ebay.com/itm/ORIGINAL-M...e=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649
the same GV30 was in the device (2680maH). There are a lot of non oem batteries btw
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Could you please post a link about the battery pack kit that you said? Is there any different to a Motorola's one (capacity, dimensions etc) ? Thank you.
To our dear friend, I suggest you replace the battery. You are not alone to that issue. It's worth buying new battery. Check this thread : https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-z/how-to/defective-battery-lots-moto-zhigh-t3781335
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garyarts said:
this one: https://www.ebay.com/itm/ORIGINAL-M...e=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649
the same GV30 was in the device (2680maH). There are a lot of non oem batteries btw
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Thank you for the quick response. I've noticed that there are many after-market batteries which have larger dimensions than the original. Do you think by just changing the battery to a new one, will solve the problem? I mean it was just effective batteries?
I think the best to replace to the original GV30. It solved the battery problem of my phone right after changing it and I'm not alone with it I guess. I had tried everything before (calibration, doze apps, etc). Nothing works if the cells of the battery are dead. It's a hardware issue
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Thank you for the quick response. I've noticed that there are many after-market batteries which have larger dimensions than the original. Do you think by just changing the battery to a new one, will solve the problem? I mean it was just effective batteries?
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I think the best to replace to the original GV30. It solved the battery problem of my phone right after changing it and I'm not alone with it I guess. I had tried everything before (calibration, doze apps, etc). Nothing works if the cells of the battery are dead. It's a hardware issue
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Yeap! This is the conclusion, bad cells in the battery. I also believe the problem enhanced by the turbo charger, as you said... :/ But, how to prove it... (?)
Prove? I can prove in a year
Just think about it. It's simple physics, faster thermal expansion kills cells. That's why they're said not to let discharged fully. Or whatever
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Yeap! This is the conclusion, bad cells in the battery. I also believe the problem enhanced by the turbo charger, as you said... :/ But, how to prove it... (?)
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Hi there,
did anyone tried https://www.aliexpress.com/item/LOS...-01-XT1650-03-XT1650-05-GV40/32842305696.html battery?
Thanks!
moemos said:
Hi there,
did anyone tried https://www.aliexpress.com/item/LOS...-01-XT1650-03-XT1650-05-GV40/32842305696.html battery?
Thanks!
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Look, many customers have tried these extended batteries but noone can prove that this myth works! On the other hand, many videos and comments have uploaded on the internet and people have shared their experience: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hRdg75PAMw
I believe that it's impossible to extend a battery capacity while the space inside the phone is very specific.
A project, though, is in progress by a member of XDA who is trying to replace GV30 to GV40 battery: https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-z/help/replace-gv30-gv40-t3896369
You'll want a battery that's SMALLER capacity than the oem. The issue is that lithium ion batteries hate being thinned out so trying to put the 2600maH OEM battery inside this chassis is a recipe for disaster. I believe the iFixit battery is around 2400maH.
I think we'd be fine with shorter life than stock. What many are missing is consistent battery life. It's one thing to get 2hours SOT, it's another to be at 80% and have it shutdown.
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You'll want a battery that's SMALLER capacity than the oem. The issue is that lithium ion batteries hate being thinned out so trying to put the 2600maH OEM battery inside this chassis is a recipe for disaster. I believe the iFixit battery is around 2400maH.
I think we'd be fine with shorter life than stock. What many are missing is consistent battery life. It's one thing to get 2hours SOT, it's another to be at 80% and have it shutdown.
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It's appropriate to give us a link about these batteries.
I did change the motherboard and the battery to a new one gv30 and I get 3-4 SOT. What's your opinion about gv40 inside moto z?
tsoump said:
It's appropriate to give us a link about these batteries.
I did change the motherboard and the battery to a new one gv30 and I get 3-4 SOT. What's your opinion about gv40 inside moto z?
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Don't do it. The screen will bulge out. There is essentially 0 give inside the Moto Z chassis. If you're fine seeing into the phone, then it'll work for you. However, I'd probably opt for the iFixit kit. It's an official Moto solution, and while it might have the same problem it won't introduce a worse problem.
May batteries you find online will say "OEM" but they are often rebrands. And even if they're just 0.1mm thicker, the screen won't adhere. A proper phone replace shop ordered me a replacement battery and it was too thick. This was a year ago, and I eventually just replaced it with a $300 new Moto Z from Amazon (I had broken my screen replacing the battery myself).
I don't know the links persay, but I see there's this one from SWARK https://www.amazon.com/Replacement-Compatible-XT1650-03-XT1650-05-XT1650-01/dp/B07GQWHLH1
I haven't tried that one myself, but I'd be curious to see the thickness.
Just replacing my moto z battery with cheap (fake?) gv30 that i buy for only around $7 in my local (Indonesia) marketplace
Please look the attached picture for its (peak) performance, and this how i got those number:
- charge to 91% with 5v/1.2A charger (ASUS charger)
- watching movie for 3 hours with airplane mode and bluetooth earphone on
- sleeping with airplane mode on
- using my phone normally with wifi on and data off until the battery reach 3%
Thank you all for your answers and sharing your experiences.
Unfortunately, after buying all I needed from the USA (battery pack and 2 B7000 glue blisters shipped to Argentina) I proceeded to attempt to fix the phone. While heating up the screen to remove it, I burned all of the LCD corners and completely ruined the screen. I don't know what did I do so differently from all of the technicians in videotutorials where thay apply the exact same or even more heat on the screen and still left it intact, but there's nothing that can be done about it except buying a new screen replacement, but since we didn't want to spend much money on this phone, we just discarded it. Such a shame and disgraceful event, it still bugs me out.
Hello everyone, I've been using a oneplus nord for the last three days and the phone is brand new. One thing I noticed is that the battery life is not that great considering it has a 4115Mah so I took a look at Aida64 battery stats when charged to 100% and it looks like the maximum capacity is 3500 Mah. I found this a bit weird since it's impossible that the battery degradated so quick and so much most of all. So I wanted to ask if you re willing to share a screenshot of aida64 of the battery capacity at 100% just to make sure if it's a single device problem or a common issue. Thanks everybody
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Hello everyone, I've been using a oneplus nord for the last three days and the phone is brand new. One thing I noticed is that the battery life is not that great considering it has a 4115Mah so I took a look at Aida64 battery stats when charged to 100% and it looks like the maximum capacity is 3500 Mah. I found this a bit weird since it's impossible that the battery degradated so quick and so much most of all. So I wanted to ask if you re willing to share a screenshot of aida64 of the battery capacity at 100% just to make sure if it's a single device problem or a common issue. Thanks everybody
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I guess you have gotten a defect or the app is reading incorrectly since I just checked on mine and it's 4115mAh
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I guess you have gotten a defect or the app is reading incorrectly since I just checked on mine and it's 4115mAh
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if you could send a screenshot of this parameter at 100% it would be very helpful
shajk-00 said:
if you could send a screenshot of this parameter at 100% it would be very helpful
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Here you go
daniellartey said:
Here you go
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if you look at charge counter it's 3581 mah, way less than the normal capacity
shajk-00 said:
if you look at charge counter it's 3581 mah, way less than the normal capacity
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If you're getting 8-9 hours SOT every cycle I wouldn't worry that much about stats. Those apps can be off, even accubattery needed an update because it couldn't handle the battery of the 8 series.
You tell me lol
Here you go, it's even worse then all of yours
eiwarmer said:
Here you go, it's even worse then all of yours
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your's is clearly messed up, I'm doing 6 and a half hours of sot max but I'm in dual sim mode with constant roaming also, so Idk really if it's normal or it should perform better
shajk-00 said:
your's is clearly messed up, I'm doing 6 and a half hours of sot max but I'm in dual sim mode with constant roaming also, so Idk really if it's normal or it should perform better
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Mines almost WiFi only, I don't get out much and I don't play graphic intensive games. So if your almost full on data it's not bad imho.
EDIT: you could try accubattery and see if it's more accurate after some charge-decharge cycles?
My is 1396mAh when fully charged. So I googled, and found this:
"On many devices the standard Android Battery API is inadequately implemented, and fails to provide proper charge counter information for the battery. If you want, you can hide the incorrect charge counter information from the Battery page by unchecking the charge counter option in the AIDA64 Settings."
https://forums.aida64.com/topic/6432- charge-counter-is-inaccurate/?tab=comments#comment-27522
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This is mine battery with tracking since first use and charged until 80% at max. Really disappointed.
Tracker31 said:
This is mine battery with tracking since first use and charged until 80% at max. Really disappointed.
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I had roughly the same value. Maybe accubattery isn't reading the values properly? There was an update regarding the 8 series because it couldn't reed the values of "2" batteries. Maybe it's bugged for the Nord too?
Accubattery thinks that my battery is 6879mAh. And that is after several charges. So yeah, I think we can safely assume these number don't mean s****.
I'm testing BatteryGuru now and it shows it right...