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Hi everyone, I'm sorry if I'm posting under the "Android General" section, but I think that my thread deserves a "general" discussion.
I've been following GCam's portings since the beginning and I've also used them on several devices like: Nokia 8, Nokia 8.1, Nokia 6.1 and LG G6 thanks to their Hardware Level Support set to Level3 (maximum). The question, now, is the following: in your opinion, which will be the best smartphone to run the upcoming ports from Google Pixel 4 new camera? I mean, it is no secret that the latest device from Google will include a triple-lens setup, so it's pretty obvious to think of a phone that has, at least, a wide and a tele-photo lens.
Thanks for moving my thread to the right section.
I'm scared I haven't explained pretty well what I was asking. I'll try that again.
Assuming that Google Pixel 4 will be having a triple-lens set up (tele, normal and wide), which will be the smartphone that will produce images as close as possibile to the Pixel after installing a Google Camera Port? It's pretty obvious that we have to look at a smartphone with a triple-lens set up too and with Camera 2 API enabled by default. On top of that it would also be ideal to have a Snapdragon 845/855/855+ at least and photographic sensor made by Sony (which very likely Google Pixel 4 is supposed to have).
Trying to do an analogy with Google Pixel 2, we can easily assume that one of the best smartphone to install a Camera Port was the Nokia 7 Plus, not only for having AndroidOne, Camera 2 API enabled but also for the same Sony IMX362 Exmor RS (sensor).
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Very interested also. I have a Pocophone, and runs gcam 6 quite well, but not perfect. From seeing it barely running on a Redmi Note 7, I assume it seem a top of the line processor and lots of RAM.
Which phone would be the best nowdays? K20?
Up, that would be nice to have a list of the top 10 Gcam smartphones 2020.
Thankful for the DEVs here! Needed root for TOS (Spy) app for my son's phone... My Note 8 screen busted, so when I upgraded to a Note 9, I fixed the screen and replaced his old LG Stylo3+ w/the Note 8. (Full Disclosure - my son knows and agrees w/spy app on his phone as a condition for his having one) After a few days of using instructions from this site, was able to downgrade to NOUGAT ROM, and root the Snapdragon Note 8. Yeah! The TOS app isn't working 100%, but requires a reset of phone every day which is annoying. Also Life360 doesn't work on the ROM, tried various versions to no avail, ended up using Google Maps Follow. And of course the 80% battery bug sucks. But all acceptable for now and thankful it works at all.
Is there any improved root/version now for Oreo or Pie and the Snapdragon version of the Note 8? Or if I get another phone, is there an optimum mid-price phone that is most easy to root and work with and most stable? Does the OnePlus 7T fit that description? Even if it comes with Android 10?
I got a Nord N10 5G device, just couple of days ago. It got an update quickly and so it was updated from Android 10 to 11. After updating, I got a big issue and a small issue. The big one is Bluetooth issue, the device paired and do file transfer with another smart phones but it can't do it with a computer working on Windows 10. The small issue, after updating, the fonts option disappeared on Personalization choices.
Do you have any suggestions?
I saw on pixel community forums that february update is here. This time pixel 6 is together with all other pixels without any delay. I checked manually for update and 27 MB update appeared. It is currently installing.
Google Pixel Update - February 2022 - Google Pixel Community
Looking at the changelog it looks like minor bugfix:
What’s included
The February 2022 update includes bug fixes and improvements for Pixel users – see below for details.
Camera
Fix for issue causing device reboot when using camera in certain conditions *[1].
Bluetooth
Fix for issue causing audio playback to disconnect while using certain Bluetooth devices *[1].
General improvements for Bluetooth audio quality with certain media codecs *[1].
Framework
Fix for issue causing keyboard to display over input text in certain conditions *[2].
Telephony
Connectivity fixes for specific carrier networks *[3].
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Device Applicability
*[1] Included on Pixel 6 & Pixel 6 Pro
*[2] Included on Pixel 3a, Pixel 3a XL, Pixel 4, Pixel 4 XL, Pixel 4a, Pixel 4a (5G), Pixel 5, Pixel 5a (5G), Pixel 6 & Pixel 6 Pro
*[3] Included on Pixel 4, Pixel 4XL, Pixel 4a (5G) & Pixel 5 (C Spire, Cellcom)
everybody's keeping root on this uppdate just fine?
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everybody's keeping root on this uppdate just fine?
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Here is your root thread. We don't need another. https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/guide-root-pixel-6-oriole-with-magisk.4356233/
neptun2 said:
Looking at the changelog it looks like minor bugfix:
What’s included
The February 2022 update includes bug fixes and improvements for Pixel users – see below for details.
Camera
Fix for issue causing device reboot when using camera in certain conditions *[1].
Bluetooth
Fix for issue causing audio playback to disconnect while using certain Bluetooth devices *[1].
General improvements for Bluetooth audio quality with certain media codecs *[1].
Framework
Fix for issue causing keyboard to display over input text in certain conditions *[2].
Telephony
Connectivity fixes for specific carrier networks *[3].
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Device Applicability
*[1] Included on Pixel 6 & Pixel 6 Pro
*[2] Included on Pixel 3a, Pixel 3a XL, Pixel 4, Pixel 4 XL, Pixel 4a, Pixel 4a (5G), Pixel 5, Pixel 5a (5G), Pixel 6 & Pixel 6 Pro
*[3] Included on Pixel 4, Pixel 4XL, Pixel 4a (5G) & Pixel 5 (C Spire, Cellcom)
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Telephony is a pretty big one! Bluetooth as well.
*[3] Included on Pixel 4, Pixel 4XL, Pixel 4a (5G) & Pixel 5 (C Spire, Cellcom)
Telephony is not included for Pixel 6
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Root intact after update of both factory image and magisk patched boot image.
No problems with root.
After the usual quite long optimization step (i have a lot of apps) and reboot i don't see any noticable changes. Kernel and baseband seem to be those from january update so don't expect any changes regarding reception from this update.
Why does optimising take forever......
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*[3] Included on Pixel 4, Pixel 4XL, Pixel 4a (5G) & Pixel 5 (C Spire, Cellcom)
Telephony is not included for Pixel 6
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that sucks because my cell network is using 30-40 percent battery they need to fix that.
Every pixel i have had (which is all of them) there seems to be something that drains the battery.
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Why does optimising take forever......
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Frankly i don't know for sure but it looks like every app on the phone is being reoptimized after these OTA updates and it takes more time but keeps the update size small. On the other side if you sideload the update process is much quicker but update size is much bigger and you need a pc. Maybe when you sideload files are directly replaced with the already patched versions while with OTA update the process is done on the phone itself making it much slower.
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Frankly i don't know for sure but it looks like every app on the phone is being reoptimized after these OTA updates and it takes more time but keeps the update size small. On the other side if you sideload the update process is much quicker but update size is much bigger and you need a pc. Maybe when you sideload files are directly replaced with the already patched versions while with OTA update the process is done on the phone itself making it much slower.
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Still optimising......
Took over an hour in the end.
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....don't expect any changes regarding reception from this update.
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mojorisin7178 said:
that sucks because my cell network is using 30-40 percent battery they need to fix that.
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FYI, connectivity issues are referenced in the release notes for the February Project Mainline update (Google Play system update).
Oh so your saying they might be working on it from the play services update? I noticed that I got 3 play service updates this month 1 brought me to January 1 then I had 2 more a day apart. The date still says Jan 1 but I also just changed over to Verizon from Fi I don't know if they were adding so Verizon stuff into my phone. I don't know how that works. And I just tried to check again for an update and it says update failed updates are not available now.
And that's the Google play system update not security patch. I got this months security patch earlier today.
I am going to Google the release notes. You said project mainline right? Or just Google play system update? Sorry for all the questions I just like knowing things. And this phone gets terrible reception most of the time
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Oh so your saying they might be working on it from the play services update? I noticed that I got 3 play service updates this month 1 brought me to January 1 then I had 2 more a day apart. The date still says Jan 1 but I also just changed over to Verizon from Fi I don't know if they were adding so Verizon stuff into my phone. I don't know how that works. And I just tried to check again for an update and it says update failed updates are not available now.
And that's the Google play system update not security patch. I got this months security patch earlier today.
I am going to Google the release notes. You said project mainline right? Or just Google play system update? Sorry for all the questions I just like knowing things. And this phone gets terrible reception most of the time
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Read this earlier:
Playstore Update - February
https://support.google.com/product-documentation/answer/11412553?hl=en What's new in Google System Updates Google System updates make your Android devices more secure and reliable and give you new and useful features. They include updates from...
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neptun2 said:
Frankly i don't know for sure but it looks like every app on the phone is being reoptimized after these OTA updates and it takes more time but keeps the update size small. On the other side if you sideload the update process is much quicker but update size is much bigger and you need a pc. Maybe when you sideload files are directly replaced with the already patched versions while with OTA update the process is done on the phone itself making it much slower.
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That makes a lot of sense
mojorisin7178 said:
I am going to Google the release notes. You said project mainline right? Or just Google play system update? Sorry for all the questions I just like knowing things. And this phone gets terrible reception most of the time
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Project Mainline = Google Play system update. Two names for the same thing. Release notes for Project Mainline are here.
Also, if you are having connection issues I'd strongly consider asking Google for a replacement. My P6 has a rock solid connection to both 4G and 5G (so-called "nationwide 5G") on VZW. Same for my wife's P6. I think a lot of these connection issues are a product of iffy hardware QC.
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Project Mainline = Google Play system update. Two names for the same thing. Release notes for Project Mainline are here.
Also, if you are having connection issues I'd strongly consider asking Google for a replacement. My P6 has a rock solid connection to both 4G and 5G (so-called "nationwide 5G") on VZW. Same for my wife's P6. I think a lot of these connection issues are a product of iffy hardware QC.
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Is your phone Verizon branded or 8s it the unlocked from the Google store version?
Be careful with this update:
Cannot turn on wifi after February update on P6 Pro - Google Pixel Community
support.google.com
For now i can't represent this exact bug on my phone but it looks like sometimes i don't have internet despite the fact that i am connected to the wifi. I need to monitor it for some more time but it will be good if anybody else can confirm or deny this problem after february update.
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Side Load it, whole process took 7 minutes.
I'm looking to buy a new phone. I'm looking at OnePlus, as I want something close to Android stock.
I'm not a power user, I just want a good daily driver that will last me a few years and has a good camera.
I initially thought about the Nord 8/128 for €300. Then, I noticed the 12/256 version is at 350, and thought it might be a better option due to extra RAM and space. appvalley tutuapp tweakbox
Then, I noticed that the Oneplus 8T is at 400 for the 8/128 version, and thought about going for that even thought it's slightly out of my initial budget... but all reviews point out that it has a crappy camera.
On the other hand, all reviews I've seen say that the Nord 2 has a good camera (or, at least, it's the better out of these 3). The 8/128 version is at 400, while the 12/256 is at 440.
So, in a pure Black Friday fashion, I went from planning to buy the Nord for 300 to aiming for the Nord 2 for 440. Am I aiming correctly, or is this a mistake I'm going to regret?
Nord 2 is much better than Nord. Period. You can do own research.
Compared to 8T the camera is better. Even get better score than OP 9
You can check:
OnePlus Nord 2 5G - DXOMARK
Everything you need to know about the Smartphone OnePlus Nord 2 5G 📱. From specifications to Pros & Cons and Scores, discover the Review by DXOMARK
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I cannot find better balanced phone than Nord 2. Reviewed OPPO, Motorola, Pixel, others OnePlus, Xiaomi, even Realme...
Few problems with being a OnePlus product and Mediatek SoC - so no easy to customize and custom ROM development. The update to Android 12 seems to bring Color OS to the phone. And seems a bit buggy, as per reports.
After almost 1 year of use rooted , very happy and stuck with latest OOS 11.3.
Edit: DN2103 12/256 bought for ~430€ on Amazon offer.
Why not the Nord 2T? The base model is only 20€ more expensive than the Nord 2 base model. I gifted it to a family member (not a power user) recently and they're very happy with it.
Also if software updates are important to you, you will get 1 more Android update on the Nord 2T vs the Nord 2.
jericho246 said:
Why not the Nord 2T? The base model is only 20€ more expensive than the Nord 2 base model. I gifted it to a family member (not a power user) recently and they're very happy with it.
Also if software updates are important to you, you will get 1 more Android update on the Nord 2T vs the Nord 2.
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I need a second phone so I looked few models. 2T was one of them. I didn't like the Android 12 + Color OS, which came out of the box. Reviewed the sub-forum for the model here.
I am concerned about Android security updates. Unfortunately with every update OP brings new, unpolished features, imho.
I like Oxygen OS. Not sure if Color OS introduced in Android 12 update and remove fastboot mode are better decisions, regarding end users ...
About the updates when feel outdated will switch to custom ROM. We will have mature ones in few months. There is some right now, too.
Cheers.
Why not a Samsung , realme , OPPO , Vivo phone ? Oneplus isn't now what it was once time ago ... Support is ZERO since they passed resposability to indians more then that MTK is a pain for rooting or else . Look to Android 13 , it is developped and beta relesead , we don't have a stable Android 12 , yet and there aren't any signs to receive it soon . Every new update release is a real mess and one after other they missed important characteristic being all so minimal .
In my opinion , don't buy !!!
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Why not a Samsung , realme , OPPO , Vivo phone ? Oneplus isn't now what it was once time ago ... Support is ZERO since they passed resposability to indians more then that MTK is a pain for rooting or else . Look to Android 13 , it is developped and beta relesead , we don't have a stable Android 12 , yet and there aren't any signs to receive it soon . Every new update release is a real mess and one after other they missed important characteristic being all so minimal .
In my opinion , don't buy !!!
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OPPO and Realme are the same like OnePlus. Considering OPPO X3 Pro which is about 800€ now or less. Or X3 Neo ( a bit dated soc and screen ) but I am afraid that what happens with OnePlus will happens with two other brands. Realme GT2 an GT2 Pro are interesting, but as part of BBK we can expect the same. Buggy software and zero support as you stated.
About Samsung there are some not user friendly problems as I read, with the latest models, so discarded. Vivo 80 plus look great but it's price is 3x of my Nord 2.
What you really suggest to buy for 400-800€? Pixel 6? There are few review about it. Motorola Edge 30+ is now 600€. Maybe will go for it. And again, what are your suggestions? Thanks.
@ roldev : You're right , it's hard to pick one on global market phones today . We have a imense mid-range market , High-end are very expensive . What I noticed is all manufacturers have serious problems with software platforms like all specialist developpers are gone on other planets . Oppo , OnePlus , Xiaomi even Samsung released huge buggy updates beyond any understanding reasons . A few years ago there were updates tested and tested and tested and afterthat they released them by OTA or else . Today all seems to be a bunch of amateurs . It can't be right this way . Maybe all brands rushed to reveal a lot of new (but old) phones only for earn quick money to cover some market needs .
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@ roldev : You're right , it's hard to pick one on global market phones today . We have a imense mid-range market , High-end are very expensive . What I noticed is all manufacturers have serious problems with software platforms like all specialist developpers are gone on other planets . Oppo , OnePlus , Xiaomi even Samsung released huge buggy updates beyond any understanding reasons . A few years ago there were updates tested and tested and tested and afterthat they released them by OTA or else . Today all seems to be a bunch of amateurs . It can't be right this way . Maybe all brands rushed to reveal a lot of new (but old) phones only for earn quick money to cover some market needs .
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You are right. They focused on quantity and not on quality, to be more " competitive ". Investing in production and not in support.
My goal is to get a mid range phone with stable lineage os support. Hope this one will get such, despite of the Mediatek SoC.
Cheers.
jericho246 said:
Why not the Nord 2T? The base model is only 20€ more expensive than the Nord 2 base model. I gifted it to a family member (not a power user) recently and they're very happy with it.
Also if software updates are important to you, you will get 1 more Android update on the Nord 2T vs the Nord 2.
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Nord 2T get 2 update for Android 13 & 14
Balanced device in a good price. Unfortunately, the OxygenOS updates are always very delayed. On the other hand, I have not experienced any important bug yet. For me, the ColorOS transition was successful. You can choose Nord 2T, it's slightly better.
george_kant said:
Balanced device in a good price. Unfortunately, the OxygenOS updates are always very delayed. On the other hand, I have not experienced any important bug yet. For me, the ColorOS transition was successful. You can choose Nord 2T, it's slightly better.
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Thank you.
ColorOS better than Oxygen OS? I hope you are right. 2T vs 2. Can you provide data? Not the marketing ones. Any benchmark or unbiased review? Newer not always means better, trust me.
1300 is rebranded 1200 with less performance.
The new firmware become more 'closed' to avoid need of support...
Two examples.
Sold my Nord 2 after two months. Far to many errors with it....
Assistant wont work from the lockscreen
Whatsapp voice message recording stops after 2 secs
Often charging only to 80% with optimized charging disabled
Bluetooth volume in car all over the place and not staying where I set it.
And also this "still on Android 11" update farce.....
Got a Xiaomi 11 T pro now which is much better value for money....
@terry_mccann maybe you got refurbished and 'tweaked' unit.
11 months with the Nord 2, here and did not face such problems, neither others.
Rock solid, stable, good performance and usability staying on oos 11 a_20.
Always update few months later to be sure that the bugs are fixed.
Despite de Mediatek SoC, there are few custom roms on active development for future. Lineage, Leos, Pixel experience, phh among others.
Even more, today bought the second Nord 2 on offer 350€ for 12/256 so I will clone 1:1 my 2 phones.
I choosed this model over OnePlus 9 pro for 660€ (12/256), Motorola Edge 30 pro (12/256) for 540€ or Motorola Edge 30 (8/128) for 360€....
The Nord 2 works well in my office with demanding workflow, in the fitness and the swimming pool, supporting some humidity even no oficial IP rating.
No bugs here. Rooted with magisk for 11 months. Hope this helps.
Cheers.
roldev said:
@terry_mccann maybe you got refurbished and 'tweaked' unit.
11 months with the Nord 2, here and did not face such problems, neither others.
Rock solid, stable, good performance and usability staying on oos 11 a_20.
Always update few months later to be sure that the bugs are fixed.
Despite de Mediatek SoC, there are few custom roms on active development for future. Lineage, Leos, Pixel experience, phh among others.
Even more, today bought the second Nord 2 on offer 350€ for 12/256 so I will clone 1:1 my 2 phones.
I choosed this model over OnePlus 9 pro for 660€ (12/256), Motorola Edge 30 pro (12/256) for 540€ or Motorola Edge 30 (8/128) for 360€....
The Nord 2 works well in my office with demanding workflow, in the fitness and the swimming pool, supporting some humidity even no oficial IP rating.
No bugs here. Rooted with magisk for 11 months. Hope this helps.
Cheers.
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" Motorola Edge 30 pro (12/256) for 540€ or Motorola Edge 30 (8/128) for 360€...." , oh man , those two phone have GG3 on front and GG5 on back . In my opinion I couldn't see any stupid thing like that in history of manufacturers , it's so retarded ideea ... Despite their capabilities such of error with Corning Gorilla Glass is a real mess .
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" Motorola Edge 30 pro (12/256) for 540€ or Motorola Edge 30 (8/128) for 360€...." , oh man , those two phone have GG3 on front and GG5 on back . In my opinion I couldn't see any stupid thing like that in history of manufacturers , it's so retarded ideea ... Despite their capabilities such of error with Corning Gorilla Glass is a real mess .
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Yeah, their reason is that GC3 has better scratch resistance than GC5. So it's ok if you never drop your phone
Few bad decisions about this phone avoid it to be really good.
Really hope to have good 100% working custom ROM with easy update for the Nord 2. It's very popular and there's a lot projects...