And I can run AT&T line through. My Note is too small. Anything out there or coming up I should give a hard look at?
Hi there,
I was faced with the same conundrum 2 months back. My decision was to just go with the galaxy tab 2, and adjust my fashion style (if there was any in the first place). Now I just carry a small man bag every where I go to accommodate the 7 inch tab since I use it not just as a high mobility tablet but also as my primary phone. Yes, I do get funny looks from people on the streets from time to time , but hey , who cares what other people thinks , as far as I'm concerned, I now have a gadget to help me with my work wherever I am.
If you do opt for the galaxy tab 2 , I suggest you root it and install the latest version of cm from along with metallice's over lockable kernel, as his kernel not only allow us to increase the cpus' clock but also the gpu's. That combo makes all my previous performance woes go away. Been playing dead trigger on Max detail a lot lately.
PS: a sim free 7inch gsm gtab 2 (i believe at&t is gsm? Excuse me if im mistaken) costs under $400 where I live while an SGNote Costs around $600; so the cost saving is quite nice as well.
Like just said there's a few 7 inch tablets out there but apart from that there is some 5-6 inch Chinese phones but probably actually fatter and heavier than Note and have no power behind them, and the Note's about as big as you can physically make it and still call it a phone so doubt you'll find anything bigger unless Note 2 has bigger screen.
heehhh )
Good luck with your search DD I hope you have deep pockets XD use the savings to adjust your style
Shame they don't make one with a penta band radio inside. The 7.7 on Verizon has LTE inside but the AT&T equivalent doesn't. Always has to be a catch.
Hi all. I am taking my family back to AT&T at the end of the month after suffering through 2 years of Sprint. I am seriously considering the Note as my next device. I currently have the Samsung Epic 4G rooted and ROMed. I want to know from experienced users what the pros and cons are to this phone other than the physical size of the phone. My alternate device will be the Galaxy S3. Thanks in advance!
Eric S.
A lot of us will tell you it's the best device they've ever had. The screen draws you in, and if you want a multimedia powerhouse then the not is the way to go. Honestly I'm sick of answering all the pros and cons threads that get posted.
There isn't a better multi media device on the market period. I tried to get rid of it, I did and went right back to it. The size is an issue if you talk on the phone maybe a lot or work outside or something. But this is it for me.
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Some people will say that the fact that it's last years hardware is a con, but devices are outdated by the time they're shipped anyway, so whatever. The only con I've experienced is that sometimes it's hard to operate one-handed, but then again I'm a tiny 5 foot tall girl with elf hands.
Test out the Note at the AT&T store when youre there and if you don't like it, get the S3.
-Once you go NOTE, you'd say 4 inches a Joke
[Lady]: "How do you carry that huge phone in your pocket?"
[Note User]: "I'm used to having huge stuff in my pants"
The screen size is one of the main reasons to get the note. The extra space allows me to leave my iPad at home, making the note the perfect convergence device.
I use Styletap to run an old palm app that I need. The s-pen has also been an added bonus.
One handed operation is difficult at times, but after a week of using it I was able to adjust to it. By the end of the second week, I no longer noticed.
After using the note for a few days, it's difficult to go back to a smaller screen. I find my wife's iPhone very difficult to use now!
Good luck with your decision.
Pros:
Huge Screen (obviously)
Amazingly fast
Lots of ROMs
Cons:
All the stupid comments you get on how big your phone is..lol
pro's....everything
cons...never being able to be happy with a smaller phone again!
Thanks guys! This is the type of info I was looking for. I did search and I didn't come up with much. I think I am going to pocket test it and if it fits I will go with the note.
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The screen size is one of the main reasons to get the note. The extra space allows me to leave my iPad at home, making the note the perfect convergence device.
I use Styletap to run an old palm app that I need. The s-pen has also been an added bonus.
One handed operation is difficult at times, but after a week of using it I was able to adjust to it. By the end of the second week, I no longer noticed.
After using the note for a few days, it's difficult to go back to a smaller screen. I find my wife's iPhone very difficult to use now!
Good luck with your decision.
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Holy crap, Styletap is still around?! I remember using that in the mid-2000s when I made the switch from Palms to PPCs.
And you're right- it's much harder to go back to a smaller screen after using this phone. I've only had mine for about 10 days but I've gotten used to the screen size & it seems normal to me now. When I first got my HD2 back in 2010 it was the biggest thing available but now it seems positively *tiny*, and my old GSII seems miniscule now too. My boyfriend has an iphone & I honestly don't know how he can stand it.
The thing I like best is it makes coffee and mows my lawn. I'm a little disappointed with the gas mileage though.
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Holy crap, Styletap is still around?! I remember using that in the mid-2000s when I made the switch from Palms to PPCs.
And you're right- it's much harder to go back to a smaller screen after using this phone. I've only had mine for about 10 days but I've gotten used to the screen size & it seems normal to me now. When I first got my HD2 back in 2010 it was the biggest thing available but now it seems positively *tiny*, and my old GSII seems miniscule now too. My boyfriend has an iphone & I honestly don't know how he can stand it.
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Yep. They released an android version not long ago. It's blazing fast on the note and the s-pen makes navigating the palm ui really simple. But with the large screen i can get around pretty easy with just my finger. The note's large screen and fast processor is what makes all the difference.
Only con: Note 2
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Sold my Note II today and debating on getting the HTC One. I am worried the 4.7 inch screen is too small since I've gotten used to the Note II screen. Anyone switch from a Note II to the HTC One and regret downsizing?
I switched from a Note 2 to an HTC One yesterday and I love it! No regrets whatsoever.
The only thing I need to get used to is not having a home button but its okay.
If you aren't sure about the sizing, play around with somebodys GS3 or try the dummy models in your nearest store.
You can PM me if you have any specific questions
I'm considering switching. But I'd have to sell my Note 2 and pay the difference for the One.
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I switched from the Note 2 and there are a few things that I miss from the Note 2 and a few things I don't miss..
What I miss:
The bigger screen
The S Pen
Battery life
What I don't miss:
Samsung plastic
The lower resolution screen
TouchWiz
I don't regret my decision one bit and I honestly don't miss the bigger screen from the Note 2 as much as I thought I would. The One's screen is so much better it more than makes up for being a little smaller.
I loathe TW and like Sense much more. I missed Sense from my One X days and am glad to have it back.
yes and i dont miss it one bit
I switched - got my One on Thursday so am getting used to it. As I said in another post, the smaller screen is definitely noticeable - so I "feel" like I am missing something, but I don't actually "see" anything missing. I showed it to a friend who has an iPhone and he thought it looked like a tablet! I am also always trying to turn it on by hitting the volume buttons - but Note II was my third Samsung phone in a row and I have some habits to unlearn. Once I get used to the size, I believe the phone is much more manageable and thus useful. BTW, I hardly ever used the stylus and didn't like the simultaneous two windows open feature.
I am thinking of making the switch to the One from the Note 2 but my concerns are;
The battery
Being unable to unlock the bootloader without losing my warranty
Zoe and Dropbox sync (I understand that for every Zoe picture I take, 20 pictures will be synced to my Dropbox)
Build quality ( I understand the Note 2 is plastic but there are a lot of people complaining about gaps on the One)
Problems with the latest version of the Amazon app store
someone will hack the bootloader eventually to avoid voiding warranty...
my biggest concern is missing the big screen size
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someone will hack the bootloader eventually to avoid voiding warranty...
my biggest concern is missing the big screen size
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Switching phones so much I have learned that after a couple of weeks that whatever screen size you are using feels normal. When I switched from the original Note to the SG3, I thought I would not be able to live without the large screen size. 2 weeks later the SG3 screen size was normal.
Samsung's user-friendly -20% battery approach to root is pretty bold. As a customer I find it quite heinous. Can't keep a backup battery around.
No physical buttons. In landscape mode it is very annoying and changing the automatic hide disorients the function of multiple apps in either direction
ir blaster. and idk if anyone else has this problem but the thinner s pen. I've broken 4 befween my fingers so no more s pen. What is the.major improvement here? The phone is a step backwards.
It would be one thing if I got my hopes up a little but the Note 8 has no redeeming qualities whatsoever. I feel like I screwed honestly.
If they want to keep removing features and locking the phone down then forget it, i'll buy a hawawaie and China can have my data instead. With some of the google stuff coming out lately I think id rather give it to them anyway. What bloat do they preinstall? Yandex? beats facebook and carrier-iq. Not planning on moving there any time soon either and last time I checked no three letter organisations are contracting with the Chinese government
The root part is what made the note 8 pretty useless to me as a device. I would sell it and get a op5t or 2xl if you care about root.
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The root part is what made the note 8 pretty useless to me as a device. I would sell it and get a op5t or 2xl if you care about root.
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thx. I'll check them out.
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thx. I'll check them out.
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I went with a SM-N950N (Korean Note 8) to have root
Same here, got me an Exynos N950F to have root. First time I have ever purchased an international phone (for Android anyway) & probably will never buy a US Samsung so long as they keep using locked down Snapdragon. Sure Snapdragon has root but no TWRP & 80% charging s not going to cut it for me.
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Same here, got me an Exynos N950F to have root. First time I have ever purchased an international phone (for Android anyway) & probably will never buy a US Samsung so long as they keep using locked down Snapdragon. Sure Snapdragon has root but no TWRP & 80% charging s not going to cut it for me.
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Should have done this. Which phoen did you have before?
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Should have done this. Which phoen did you have before?
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I had a N920T T-Mobile USA Note 5, the last Exynos Samsung for the US. Once I heard S7 had locked bootloaders, I knew I would have to buy International/Exynos from going forward. Sucks having to do so initially but more than well worth it for me, couldn't be happier.
With all that's provided today by Android, I almost see no reason for root.
And it's quite odd to have broken 4 S-Pens. That's about $100 in value dropped like that. But the whole no physical button is not enough of a reason to hate the Note 8 at all. Samsung was just finally becoming part of the Android lineup that's how it's supposed to function. The Physical home button gives me some anxiety to see scratches on it no matter how much I protect it.
I went from Note 3 to Note 7, back to a used Note 4, and now the Note 8 for the last 6 months. I'm not rooted and I really don't miss root for much. Battery life is pretty amazing on the Note 8. I like Samsung UI, so with the Note 3 & 4 I always stuck with touchwiz roms. It's nice having a more current version of Android with the Samsung Experience. The Note 8's not perfect, but I definitely don't miss the Note 4.
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Samsung's user-friendly -20% battery approach to root is pretty bold. As a customer I find it quite heinous. Can't keep a backup battery around.
No physical buttons. In landscape mode it is very annoying and changing the automatic hide disorients the function of multiple apps in either direction
ir blaster. and idk if anyone else has this problem but the thinner s pen. I've broken 4 befween my fingers so no more s pen. What is the.major improvement here? The phone is a step backwards.
It would be one thing if I got my hopes up a little but the Note 8 has no redeeming qualities whatsoever. I feel like I screwed honestly.
If they want to keep removing features and locking the phone down then forget it, i'll buy a hawawaie and China can have my data instead. With some of the google stuff coming out lately I think id rather give it to them anyway. What bloat do they preinstall? Yandex? beats facebook and carrier-iq. Not planning on moving there any time soon either and last time I checked no three letter organisations are contracting with the Chinese government
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Sucks for u. I came from a fully modded note 4 that I had since launch day and the n8 not rooted blows the n4 away. Battery life, speed, themes, screen. Idk what else u want from a phone, and this is coming from someone who made a anti-note 5 Facebook because of the features lost from the 4 to the 5. Btw, you guys are welcome for getting the sd card back??. And yeah I missed the ir blaster for about 2 days. That's it though, it was seriously no big deal at all. And u can debloat without root. As far as backups, helium works great. And for viper audio...... Just poweramp alpha build with hi-res sounds better on my system than with viper anyways. And what are u seriously doing to ur spens??? 4 really, I never broke 1. If you ever had the n5, I have a feeling the spen got put in backwards as well...
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Sucks for u. I came from a fully modded note 4 that I had since launch day and the n8 not rooted blows the n4 away. Battery life, speed, themes, screen. Idk what else u want from a phone, and this is coming from someone who made a anti-note 5 Facebook because of the features lost from the 4 to the 5. Btw, you guys are welcome for getting the sd card back?. And yeah I missed the ir blaster for about 2 days. That's it though, it was seriously no big deal at all. And u can debloat without root. As far as backups, helium works great. And for viper audio...... Just poweramp alpha build with hi-res sounds better on my system than with viper anyways. And what are u seriously doing to ur spens??? 4 really, I never broke 1. If you ever had the n5, I have a feeling the spen got put in backwards as well...
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¯\_(ツ)_/¯
If someone complains about 80% batt after root, no physical buttons, locked bootloader no IR blaster among other issues, frankly, why did you buy a note 8? Bob bobbled, how did you managed the increadible feat of breaking 4 spens?, as an informed android user you seem to be, I think that all your complains you make are long known facts, snapdragons beeing troublesome for rooting, ir blaster now dropped, physical buttons only in active versions or low level devices, 4 spen broken? C'mon, the spens are not the problem, but how they are handled, next time, better get all the pertinent info before buying, or, as you said, get a huawei or something like it, but, you will see, sooner or later, that those devices have many issues that ultimately you will not like, believe me
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With all that's provided today by Android, I almost see no reason for root.
And it's quite odd to have broken 4 S-Pens. That's about $100 in value dropped like that. But the whole no physical button is not enough of a reason to hate the Note 8 at all. Samsung was just finally becoming part of the Android lineup that's how it's supposed to function. The Physical home button gives me some anxiety to see scratches on it no matter how much I protect it.
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I think OP means they have broken fingers so thinner S-Pen is harder and virtually impossible to use
I upgrade from my N910C to a N950N due to the fact that my N910C was starting to drop LTE signals randomly. I have to say I am loving my N950N. It is probably my best purchase of the year. I thought that I would hate not havinv physical buttons. But I quickly gotten use to having soft buttons. Not having a removable battery is my main grip with the latest Samsung devices. But I can easily get 2 days battery life out of my N950N with moderate use. I haven't notice any performance issues since the upgrade to Oreo. Performance has been butterly smoothy. I love the iris scanner, it even works in direct sunlight. The placement of the fingerprint scanner is not as bad as I thought it would be.
Seriously 4 S-pens? man the 2nd pen break must have made u smarter. I have used all the Notes except 2 & 7(they stopped the launch in India)
Never broken a pen, a tip damaged due to dropping it, but never broken, and even on the Note 5, never inserted it the wrong way. And I am a very prolific user of the S-Pen.
The battery isnt so bad, ofcourse would appreciate better life, but thats a not a deal breaker. And also the physical buttons, never really missed them, since the Tab series really lost them in 2012.
I would say that Note 8 Exynos rooted and Dr.Ketan Rom+Pro Tweaks is the optimal combo imo. Everything is optimized, battery is great, no bloatware..... etc etc etc
I too have made the leap from a N910a to the note 8. Being that I'm coming from the notorious "you'll never get root on our phone, EVER" from AT&T having root PERIOD was a game changer. With that said, I do miss the IR blaster although alot of the time I'd forget it was there lol. I had my note 4 for nearly 3 years - longest I've ever had a phone and not had something happen i.e. dropping it.
So root was a HUGE deal for me to have, so I may be a bit biased in that area but as others have touched on, for real how did you manage to break not 1, not 2, or 3 but FOUR spens?! If it were 1 I'd say contact them for possibly poor workmanship, no offense but it seems like it's on the user end in this instance. As far as features the Note 8 has root aside, waterproof (or water RESISTANT as it technically really is lol) Another game changer. For over a year I had no working speaker due to having just moving into new apt and first night using it as Hotspot I had no idea sprinklers came on and shat water onto my rear patio. My own fault, but nonetheless very VERY comforting knowing if I ever screwed up in that area, it wouldn't be an issue. That alone with all our own user end mishaps is arguably a MUST HAVE.
The 80 pct limit isn't really that bad, if you must charge it to 100 pct there is always the download mode workaround, but if we are taking straight user friendliness,I could see it being a thing to do it everytime one charged. Raw power over the note 4 is and has to be something that anyone would notice immediately. I have a gear vr and while the note 4 fit, it always was outperformed by my note 8 when I tested them back to back.
I DO miss the removable battery (price to pay for water resistance I suppose) and am not looking forward to when it starts to show signs of aging and needs replaced. There are options I've found that help, like a portable power bank. Although with my use I really don't see much of a difference between when I was stock compared to now, so that wasn't and isn't anything I ever complain about knowing up front that was the price of admission if I wanted root. I still have my note 4 but honestly it just sits along side of my other devices of yesteryear collecting dust.
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Samsung's user-friendly -20% battery approach to root is pretty bold. As a customer I find it quite heinous. Can't keep a backup battery around.
No physical buttons. In landscape mode it is very annoying and changing the automatic hide disorients the function of multiple apps in either direction
ir blaster. and idk if anyone else has this problem but the thinner s pen. I've broken 4 befween my fingers so no more s pen. What is the.major improvement here? The phone is a step backwards.
It would be one thing if I got my hopes up a little but the Note 8 has no redeeming qualities whatsoever. I feel like I screwed honestly.
If they want to keep removing features and locking the phone down then forget it, i'll buy a hawawaie and China can have my data instead. With some of the google stuff coming out lately I think id rather give it to them anyway. What bloat do they preinstall? Yandex? beats facebook and carrier-iq. Not planning on moving there any time soon either and last time I checked no three letter organisations are contracting with the Chinese government
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time to sell it and opt for another device
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If someone complains about 80% batt after root, no physical buttons, locked bootloader no IR blaster among other issues, frankly, why did you buy a note 8? Bob bobbled, how did you managed the increadible feat of breaking 4 spens?, as an informed android user you seem to be, I think that all your complains you make are long known facts, snapdragons beeing troublesome for rooting, ir blaster now dropped, physical buttons only in active versions or low level devices, 4 spen broken? C'mon, the spens are not the problem, but how they are handled, next time, better get all the pertinent info before buying, or, as you said, get a huawei or something like it, but, you will see, sooner or later, that those devices have many issues that ultimately you will not like, believe me
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So you can root the Note 8? (US version or only international vesion?) and rooting limits battery to 80% only?
You can root both models, but with snapdragons, the batt only charges up to 80%, I read about this here XDA, I dont know if there is some patch or workaround for it, as I have an stock Exynos 950F 128GB
Besides the size and camera arrangement - are there (hardware) differences between the two?
I will receive both in a few days and deciding which one to keep also will be based on (future) Rom support... Having the same base will make it much more likely to get updates for a long time and maybe even custom roms...
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Besides the size and camera arrangement - are there (hardware) differences between the two?
I will receive both in a few days and deciding which one to keep also will be based on (future) Rom support... Having the same base will make it much more likely to get updates for a long time and maybe even custom roms...
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So what did you choose and why?
I got the 8 Flip for myself, the 8 ("compact") for my wife.
Speed is incredible, software (meaning OS) is good and not cluttered up.
Coming from OnePlus phones (7 and 6T), we both kinda miss the alert slider and the fingerprint readers are a little picky, hopefully because they would be harder to trick...
On my flip face unlock (which I used often on the oneplus7) requires the camera to come up (rotate), taking time and most of all space.
I think I might keep it for a year or so anyway.
Have to say I was able to get the phones through a warehouse deal for roughly 25% off...
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I got the 8 Flip for myself, the 8 ("compact") for my wife.
Speed is incredible, software (meaning OS) is good and not cluttered up.
Coming from OnePlus phones (7 and 6T), we both kinda miss the alert slider and the fingerprint readers are a little picky, hopefully because they would be harder to trick...
On my flip face unlock (which I used often on the oneplus7) requires the camera to come up (rotate), taking time and most of all space.
I think I might keep it for a year or so anyway.
Have to say I was able to get the phones through a warehouse deal for roughly 25% off...
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I love the flip, But the fingerprint scanner is poor compared to the LG v60 and the Oneplus 7 Pro.
MicroSD slot is only on the Flip -.-
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I love the flip, But the fingerprint scanner is poor compared to the LG v60 and the Oneplus 7 Pro.
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I think like you in the beginning but actually need to know do it properly. You may press a bit when setting bur to unlock you don't need to press.just put or touch lightly and scanner will easy to scan your fingertips