Since the production for 780g has stopped, that means hardly anyone will make a custom roms or stuff like that, but my question is, does that means that offical updates from Xiaomi for MIUI will also stop or they'll be rarer in compare to other devices?
I wonder, will we get normal updates or they'll be rarer cuz of rarity of this cpu?
For custom you can use GSI ROMs..for the rest only Xiaomi knows, but maybe less update
I'm very disappointed, I would never buy this phone if I new this model would be abandoned. This news was launched 2 days after I bought it :-(
Should be worried? I generally don't think it will be " abandonded" Xiaomi like xiaomi, we'll get updates for sure, burt idk how often.
I also think that the production of 780g might continue in the near future? Thoguths, gentlemen?
I bet they will be a few roms for this phone (I'm hoping for dotos or cherishos )
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Should be worried? I generally don't think it will be " abandonded" Xiaomi like xiaomi, we'll get updates for sure, burt idk how often.
I also think that the production of 780g might continue in the near future? Thoguths, gentlemen?
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MI 11 lite 5g appear on Android 12 update list. So probably we receive A12 and 1-2 patches and than stopped. Anyway Xiaomi is known for short support for his phones.
Im hoping that both versions get the same support. The only difference being the SOC(?) with everything else being exact.
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Im hoping that both versions get the same support. The only difference being the SOC(?) with everything else being exact.
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I heard that they have almost the same soc
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I heard that they have almost the same soc
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Tehnically, yeah, the diffrence in perfomance is so tiny.
Unlikely it changes anything. I'm 100% sure support for 5G ends when support for 5G NE ends. Maybe less often security updates, that's it. Support for both phones will be dropped with MIUI 14 or 15. Android 12 guaranteed, Android 13 possible.
Hard to believe that the 6nm 778G is more power efficient than a 5nm 780G. But what do I know?
robbiepeyt said:
Hard to believe that the 6nm 778G is more power efficient than a 5nm 780G. But what do I know?
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Since when? lol
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Since when? lol
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"The Snapdragon 778G clearly overtakes the Snapdragon 780G in terms of power efficiency."
Xiaomi 11 Lite 5G NE review
Having the same 4,250 mAh battery on board and running a similar chipset, we were expecting little to no difference in the battery tests between the "Old...
m.gsmarena.com
Almost that I would like to return my Xiaomi Mi 11 Lite 5G for the NE version.
robbiepeyt said:
"The Snapdragon 778G clearly overtakes the Snapdragon 780G in terms of power efficiency."
Xiaomi 11 Lite 5G NE review
Having the same 4,250 mAh battery on board and running a similar chipset, we were expecting little to no difference in the battery tests between the "Old...
m.gsmarena.com
Almost that I would like to return my Xiaomi Mi 11 Lite 5G for the NE version.
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Idk how actually, but seems like it does.
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Idk how actually, but seems like it does.
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Maybe it's just the issue of system optimization
It would be nice to have a battery that lasted longer for sure, but I will not gamble getting a NE and realising it's a Tianma display instead of the Huaxing I have now.
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Maybe it's just the issue of system optimization
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This website base power efficiency on guesses I'm afraid. No real tests. Rest is based on pure benchmark numbers. But there is no benchmark for power efficiency. They thought 5 nm means efficient but fact is our phone likes to run hot.
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It would be nice to have a battery that lasted longer for sure, but I will not gamble getting a NE and realising it's a Tianma display instead of the Huaxing I have now.
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And it's already confirmed Delta RGB display is again present.
sirgoldi said:
This website base power efficiency on guesses I'm afraid. No real tests. Rest is based on pure benchmark numbers. But there is no benchmark for power efficiency. They thought 5 nm means efficient but fact is our phone likes to run hot.
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Tbh after changing rom to OctaviOS GSI this phone is really cold, not as on miui
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Tbh after changing rom to OctaviOS GSI this phone is really cold, not as on miui
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Okay then, looks like you are right then. How is that possible that Xioami kills performance of their phones with OS is just beyond me. But still they are not bad in terms of efficiency, many Xiaomi phones leading battery charts. So I assume other companies are even worse. Wish to try custom ROM but for safety reasons I don't want to.
Related
So I just recently heard of another smartphone who has blowing specs, Veerne Apollo Lite is a deca-core smartphone with 4GB of ram and 32GB of storage.
BUT HEY IS JUST LIKE A COPY OF THE HONOR 5X!!!
And no the photo is a Veerne not a 5X
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So I just recently heard of another smartphone who has blowing specs, Veerne Apollo Lite is a deca-core smartphone with 4GB of ram and 32GB of storage.
BUT HEY IS JUST LIKE A COPY OF THE HONOR 5X!!!
And no the photo is a Veerne not a 5X
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looks like honor 5x rip off...
A 100% ripoff
venom007 said:
looks like honor 5x rip off...
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Yesss totally
PalakMi said:
A 100% ripoff
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Tell me! Mannn its identically.
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Tell me! Mannn its identically.
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Anyone will say the same
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Anyone will say the same
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Only thing is that its faster with its deca corw processor and has more ram.
Many phones have the same look these days...
About this one:
Powerful at first glance, but rather poor build quality, many users are reporting connectivity issues.
Advice: avoid it.
mooms said:
Many phones have the same look these days...
About this one:
Powerful at first glance, but rather poor build quality, many users are reporting connectivity issues.
Advice: avoid it.
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Mmmmmm thanks for info, there needed to be something bad about it.
Lots of phones look a like these days, especially with all the smartphones floating around these days, you'll run into some look a likes here and there.
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Lots of phones look a like these days, especially with all the smartphones floating around these days, you'll run into some look a likes here and there.
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Agree but this one looks just the same but with another Name.
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Only thing is that its faster with its deca corw processor and has more ram.
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Its a knockoff so its probably poorly optimized so it will probably be very slow.
Arobase40 said:
Vernee like most Chinese smartphone manufacturers doesn't have any specific budget for paying international patents or specific design (including Xiaomi) so they can "share or borrow" their ressources one another including the mold... ^^
The SOC is based on Mediatek, so cheaper than Qualcomm and the phone is sold mainly on the Chinese domestic market with no international after sale services !
If you have any hardware problems, you'll have to send the device back to China, wait for some weeks and you'll most probably have to pay for shipping fees back and forth.
When you see the trouble to get official updates from Huawei, I don't think you can expect any regular updates from Vernee or any other Chinese manufacturers.
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Agree, so I wont be getting it but it would be good to see some bench or speed tests from it. The lack of software updates probably kills this phone has you said.
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Its a knockoff so its probably poorly optimized so it will probably be very slow.
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Yes, but let us see first what it can do, probably slow has you said.
Hey guys , i am about to buy a new phone and my options are: Nexus 5X, HTC M8 and Redmi Note 3 PRO.
I want to know which one has the : 1.better cpu/gpu for games
2.battery life and HEALTH over time because i want to stick with it at least 2 years.
3.which one is more future proof
I know the nexus 5x has the best support for CM which i like but the battery life is a very big downside.
And i want to know if its true that: if there is COLD WEATHER (-5/-10 degrees) outside the battery drains almost VERY fast ? FOR REDMI NOTE 3 PRO (i red this problems on a forum)
Hope you can guys help me sort it out.
Redmi Note 3 pro is definetly the best bang for buck, for performance and updates I'd go for 5X but that's much expensive than this device, I won't touch HTC.
In short, if you want a good phone for a decent price, go for Note 3 Pro, but if you want more performance then go for 5X, but in my opinion, kenzo has everything I need, good speed, fp sensor, and regular updates thanks to devs!
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Redmi Note 3 pro is definetly the best bang for buck, for performance and updates I'd go for 5X but that's much expensive than this device, I won't touch HTC.
In short, if you want a good phone for a decent price, go for Note 3 Pro, but if you want more performance then go for 5X, but in my opinion, kenzo has everything I need, good speed, fp sensor, and regular updates thanks to devs!
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What? SD650 performs better than 808 in both CPU and GPU, not even mentioning temperatures difference, battery and no throttling in SD650. It's not reddit, so let's just stop falsely praise Nexus devices, while in terms of performance they are below Xiaomi models. Hell, on Kenzo you can easily get twice as much SOT as in Nexus 5X, it's like not even competition at this point. I switched from 5X to Redmi Note 3 Pro and I'd say it was big upgrade, kenzo is just better in almost every term.
To OP, in all 3 of these points kenzo destroys rivals, you'd get a bit worse camera but that's probably only downside of this device, if you don't really use it that often then there is just no reason to not buy RN3Pro, and about that problem, I'm often using it outside and where I live, right now there is like -7 to -12 degrees and I haven't seen any drain, battery drops normally just like when I'm home.
balazs312 said:
Redmi Note 3 pro is definetly the best bang for buck, for performance and updates I'd go for 5X but that's much expensive than this device, I won't touch HTC.
In short, if you want a good phone for a decent price, go for Note 3 Pro, but if you want more performance then go for 5X, but in my opinion, kenzo has everything I need, good speed, fp sensor, and regular updates thanks to devs!
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What? SD650 performs better than 808 in both CPU and GPU, not even mentioning temperatures difference, battery and no throttling in SD650. It's not reddit, so let's just stop falsely praise Nexus devices, while in terms of performance they are below Xiaomi models. Hell, on Kenzo you can easily get twice as much SOT as in Nexus 5X, it's like not even competition at this point. I switched from 5X to Redmi Note 3 Pro and I'd say it was big upgrade, kenzo is just better in almost every term.
To OP, in all 3 of these points kenzo destroys rivals, you'd get a bit worse camera but that's probably only downside of this device, if you don't really use it that often then there is just no reason to not buy RN3Pro, and about that problem, I'm often using it outside and where I live, right now there is like -7 to -12 degrees and I haven't seen any drain, battery drops normally just like when I'm home.
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So 3 more questions: I DONT CARE ABOUT CAMERA FIRST.
1. For gaming which one is the better one from these 2?
2. If i live in a cold country the fast draining battery when its -5 -10 Degrees is a deal breaker?
3.I heard something about xiaomi note 4x with 653 is real or its the normal xiaomi note 4 snapdragon ?
Man...its around -20 celsius where I live everyday right now for over a month and kenzo works flawless... iPhones are dying because of that non stop...first time I hear it for kenzo...
As for performance...its amazing, no lagg, even Vulkan support, simply the best for this value, better from 5x in every segment...
Redmi note 4 came new with SD625 which is less powerful, but supposedly even more battery friendly...but I get around 8-10h SoT most of the time so it doesnt really matter, compared to 5x, like 3h
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So 3 more questions: I DONT CARE ABOUT CAMERA FIRST.
1. For gaming which one is the better one from these 2?
2. If i live in a cold country the fast draining battery when its -5 -10 Degrees is a deal breaker?
3.I heard something about xiaomi note 4x with 653 is real or its the normal xiaomi note 4 snapdragon ?
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1. Between Redmi Note 3 Pro and Nexus 5X? Xiaomi, it has slightly better CPU and GPU but the real deal breaker is throttling and temperatures. On SD808 after some time it will get hot and CPU will start throttling, especially while playing for some time, on SD650 there is no such thing, phone might get a bit warmer, but you probably won't even feel it. Plus battery will drain a lot slower on 650.
2. I don't know about Nexus while it's cold because I got rid of mine before it's first winter, but Redmi Note 3 Pro doesn't really care about temperature outside. It works as good wherever it is.
3. Honestly I have no idea. I've heard about it too but after relase of Redmi Note 4 (Snapdragon) I'm not even sure if it's still gonna be relased. Guess we have to wait.
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Redmi Note 3 pro is definetly the best bang for buck, for performance and updates I'd go for 5X but that's much expensive than this device, I won't touch HTC.
In short, if you want a good phone for a decent price, go for Note 3 Pro, but if you want more performance then go for 5X, but in my opinion, kenzo has everything I need, good speed, fp sensor, and regular updates thanks to devs!
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What? SD650 performs better than 808 in both CPU and GPU, not even mentioning temperatures difference, battery and no throttling in SD650. It's not reddit, so let's just stop falsely praise Nexus devices, while in terms of performance they are below Xiaomi models. Hell, on Kenzo you can easily get twice as much SOT as in Nexus 5X, it's like not even competition at this point. I switched from 5X to Redmi Note 3 Pro and I'd say it was big upgrade, kenzo is just better in almost every term.
To OP, in all 3 of these points kenzo destroys rivals, you'd get a bit worse camera but that's probably only downside of this device, if you don't really use it that often then there is just no reason to not buy RN3Pro, and about that problem, I'm often using it outside and where I live, right now there is like -7 to -12 degrees and I haven't seen any drain, battery drops normally just like when I'm home.
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Man...its around -20 celsius where I live everyday right now for over a month and kenzo works flawless... iPhones are dying because of that non stop...first time I hear it for kenzo...
As for performance...its amazing, no lagg, even Vulkan support, simply the best for this value, better from 5x in every segment...
Redmi note 4 came new with SD625 which is less powerful, but supposedly even more battery friendly...but I get around 8-10h SoT most of the time so it doesnt really matter, compared to 5x, like 3h
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1. Between Redmi Note 3 Pro and Nexus 5X? Xiaomi, it has slightly better CPU and GPU but the real deal breaker is throttling and temperatures. On SD808 after some time it will get hot and CPU will start throttling, especially while playing for some time, on SD650 there is no such thing, phone might get a bit warmer, but you probably won't even feel it. Plus battery will drain a lot slower on 650.
2. I don't know about Nexus while it's cold because I got rid of mine before it's first winter, but Redmi Note 3 Pro doesn't really care about temperature outside. It works as good wherever it is.
3. Honestly I have no idea. I've heard about it too but after relase of Redmi Note 4 (Snapdragon) I'm not even sure if it's still gonna be relased. Guess we have to wait.
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I dont have a big bugget, is there a big difference in gaming or battery life between 2gb and 3gb ram ?
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I dont have a big bugget, is there a big difference in gaming or battery life between 2gb and 3gb ram ?
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In battery life probably none, about gaming I can't tell, but I don't think that there is that much of price difference to save a little money, 3 gb would be overall better for future, but if I had to buy 2 gb version I'd probably switch instantly to some AOSP custom rom because MIUI used to eat 1,2-1,5gb ram on my 3 gb model so it would probably be a little left for gaming, and on custom roms it's mostly less than 1 gb usage for system. But by buying 3 GB u also get more storage which would probably be nice to have more games instead of wasting money for bigger SD card or something, so think about that too
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In battery life probably none, about gaming I can't tell, but I don't think that there is that much of price difference to save a little money, 3 gb would be overall better for future, but if I had to buy 2 gb version I'd probably switch instantly to some AOSP custom rom because MIUI used to eat 1,2-1,5gb ram on my 3 gb model so it would probably be a little left for gaming, and on custom roms it's mostly less than 1 gb usage for system. But by buying 3 GB u also get more storage which would probably be nice to have more games instead of wasting money for bigger SD card or something, so think about that too
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And just wondering its easy to install custom roms on it ? Or i must pay for it like HTC S OFF or something ?
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And just wondering its easy to install custom roms on it ? Or i must pay for it like HTC S OFF or something ?
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And i dont want to use MIUI i dont like it.
Are CM/AOSP roms stable enough (good battery,performance) ?
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And i dont want to use MIUI i dont like it.
Are CM/AOSP roms stable enough (good battery,performance) ?
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For unlock bootloader you have to write for a permission, it takes 1-3 days for them to respond and after unlocking it's just pretty much same as in other devices, no problems at all.
About stability, there are tons of stable MM roms and quite a lot of Nougat ones. The only bugs are from what I know flashlight working sometimes after 2nd tap or 3rd and not as good fingerprint reading if you get the goodix model, but it's still not bad, and it's probably gonna be fixed soon. Except these ROMs are stable and have pretty much same battery life as MIUI (because it's very good in terms of battery) and, I'd say, smoother than stock. Benchmark-wise custom ROMs get like 10-20k more in Antutu, plus some of ROMs add Vulkan libs so if you change build.prop you can download and play Vulkan games, they perform really well!
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For unlock bootloader you have to write for a permission, it takes 1-3 days for them to respond and after unlocking it's just pretty much same as in other devices, no problems at all.
About stability, there are tons of stable MM roms and quite a lot of Nougat ones. The only bugs are from what I know flashlight working sometimes after 2nd tap or 3rd and not as good fingerprint reading if you get the goodix model, but it's still not bad, and it's probably gonna be fixed soon. Except these ROMs are stable and have pretty much same battery life as MIUI (because it's very good in terms of battery) and, I'd say, smoother than stock. Benchmark-wise custom ROMs get like 10-20k more in Antutu, plus some of ROMs add Vulkan libs so if you change build.prop you can download and play Vulkan games, they perform really well!
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And must i pay or it is hard to unlock the bootloader? Can it be unlocked by default(when)?
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And must i pay or it is hard to unlock the bootloader? Can it be unlocked by default(when)?
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No, it's free. You just have to ask for permission in MIUI site and wait for permission rights on your account, then you simply download one program from MIUI, connect device and click unlock button, it will do it automatically. But I heard that some people are having problem with that and have to first flash MIUI gloval dev via EDL to make program work, for me I didn't have to do anything, unlocked it on version that came with me from shop.
balazs312 said:
Redmi Note 3 pro is definetly the best bang for buck, for performance and updates I'd go for 5X but that's much expensive than this device, I won't touch HTC.
In short, if you want a good phone for a decent price, go for Note 3 Pro, but if you want more performance then go for 5X, but in my opinion, kenzo has everything I need, good speed, fp sensor, and regular updates thanks to devs!
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Hey guys , i am about to buy a new phone and my options are: Nexus 5X, HTC M8 and Redmi Note 3 PRO.
I want to know which one has the : 1.better cpu/gpu for games
2.battery life and HEALTH over time because i want to stick with it at least 2 years.
3.which one is more future proof
I know the nexus 5x has the best support for CM which i like but the battery life is a very big downside.
And i want to know if its true that: if there is COLD WEATHER (-5/-10 degrees) outside the battery drains almost VERY fast ? FOR REDMI NOTE 3 PRO (i red this problems on a forum)
Hope you can guys help me sort it out.
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Battery is certainly very good on redmi note 3 pro and u can install android nougat also. Lineage OS, slim roms, rr are all well supported here. Its really like the best of two world a good os good performance massive battery! Dont think mich go for the redmi note 3 pro. But have no idea about quick nattery drain in chilled areas.
Go for Redmi Note 3 Kenzo.
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Battery is certainly very good on redmi note 3 pro and u can install android nougat also. Lineage OS, slim roms, rr are all well supported here. Its really like the best of two world a good os good performance massive battery! Dont think mich go for the redmi note 3 pro. But have no idea about quick nattery drain in chilled areas.
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Go for Redmi Note 3 Kenzo.
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No, it's free. You just have to ask for permission in MIUI site and wait for permission rights on your account, then you simply download one program from MIUI, connect device and click unlock button, it will do it automatically. But I heard that some people are having problem with that and have to first flash MIUI gloval dev via EDL to make program work, for me I didn't have to do anything, unlocked it on version that came with me from shop.
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For gaming between REDMI NOTE 4, NEXUS 5X AND REDMI NOTE 3 PRO, i should go with REDMI 3 NOTE PRO?
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For gaming between REDMI NOTE 4, NEXUS 5X AND REDMI NOTE 3 PRO, i should go with REDMI 3 NOTE PRO?
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Yes, Redmi Note 4 isn't as powerful as RN3Pro. Though you would get better battery life with SD625, but it would be better choice if battery was more important for you than raw power, but I'd say kenzo has big enough battery so there is pretty much no reason to buy even longer lasting phone while in my case I'm charging phone like once for 3 days with ~3h SOT usage per day.
I just bought the Redmi Note 3 Pro Special Edition and I love it. It's taking forever to unlock because of Xiaomi servers not being updated timely but I love the phone. It's fast, Battery is amazing, 4K video and HD Slow motion are killer.
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Yes, Redmi Note 4 isn't as powerful as RN3Pro. Though you would get better battery life with SD625, but it would be better choice if battery was more important for you than raw power, but I'd say kenzo has big enough battery so there is pretty much no reason to buy even longer lasting phone while in my case I'm charging phone like once for 3 days with ~3h SOT usage per day.
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I just bought the Redmi Note 3 Pro Special Edition and I love it. It's taking forever to unlock because of Xiaomi servers not being updated timely but I love the phone. It's fast, Battery is amazing, 4K video and HD Slow motion are killer.
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And is the construction or display better on REDMI NOTE 4? I heard its 2.5d its there a difference ?
we got fully stable cm14.1 with volte, awesome battery backup, dual sim, IR blaster, very good display. and all at very low price. nexus is very costly man. i think three times the price of kenzo.
Heres a bit of an update for you guys!
> When Nougat is released it will be the Android 7.1.1 version.
-- It will take some time to finish, they are perfecting it as the USA version released too early and was found to have many bugs after release, the beta test was too short.
> Root is still in the process - Am unsure if this is for Nougat/Marshmallow and how this is going to work, but internally the process has sped up now, so we will see it after Nougat release.
Hope this helps.
Mind sharing source of the information?
He is lying i would never trust him.
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Mind sharing source of the information?
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I do mind, but it comes from ZTE.
Haha just kidding, its true what rikin93 said zte said that in the beta tester group.
good to hear
This is such good news!! Made my day
But 7.1 will take a bit longer. They actually testing it intern before we test it in the beta.
I sure hope that proper device encryption (including password at bootup that is used for encrypting the internal storage) will be supported for A2017G soon. They promised it for B10 but it didn't seem to have it made into that release. I still have hope that it will show up in Nougat. Is it actually present in the A2017U Nougat release?
There will be official method to unlock phone as you said few weeks ago ?
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I sure hope that proper device encryption (including password at bootup that is used for encrypting the internal storage) will be supported for A2017G soon. They promised it for B10 but it didn't seem to have it made into that release. I still have hope that it will show up in Nougat. Is it actually present in the A2017U Nougat release?
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A2017U has a password ta bootup in Nougat. Wasn't present in MM.
Good to hear that but personally I have my doubts will get directly 7.1.1.
But ZTE should had focus from beginning to that version since have been delay the upgrade to 7.
Since we will get it within March so they are having plenty of time for preparation and no excuse of getting 7 instead of 7.1.1.
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Not quite right
There's a similar topic on the official german forum about this. It was commented by ZTE staff yesterday:
"Hello Axon 7 friends!
It seems to be false statement about the update. I want to correct it:
ZTE Germany will publish Android 7.0 at least at the end of the first quarter of the year.
The confusion might have been occurred since the developers are already working on 7.1.
Your Z-Community-Team"
Source: ztemobile.de/forums/topic/android-7-0-nougat/page/4/#post-4370
But before nougat update you have to stay with b10 or can i update from b08?
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His bedrooms computer.
Nougat for EU will come in April.
dodo34 said:
Nougat for EU will come in April.
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How do you know? The beta testers haven't this info.
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Nougat for EU will come in April.
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Excellent. I will have moved to a better phone by then.
The signal on this phone is so poor compared to other phones. The sound is great but the software is slow and buggy. The camera is awful compared to many mid range phones. And the support is just rubbish. I'm afraid it was cheap for a reason.
It is only the sound which keeps me using this phone. The new LG will have a quad DAC and that will remove that need. It's a shame but when you compare this phone to my main daily driver - an iPhone 7 Plus (I always carry two phones for various reasons), this is a poor relative, way way behind in 2nd place. If my Note 5 (my other alternative for my second phone) had half decent sound, this phone would have been sold ages ago....
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Nougat for EU will come in April.
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Give us sources for that please.
apd said:
Excellent. I will have moved to a better phone by then.
The signal on this phone is so poor compared to other phones. The sound is great but the software is slow and buggy. The camera is awful compared to many mid range phones. And the support is just rubbish. I'm afraid it was cheap for a reason.
It is only the sound which keeps me using this phone. The new LG will have a quad DAC and that will remove that need. It's a shame but when you compare this phone to my main daily driver - an iPhone 7 Plus (I always carry two phones for various reasons), this is a poor relative, way way behind in 2nd place. If my Note 5 (my other alternative for my second phone) had half decent sound, this phone would have been sold ages ago....
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Well with quality control issue with several LG flagship latest years I wish you really good good luck.
You will need 100%.
Also with 3200 battery at 5.7 inches with battery hungry and horrible quality LCD screen LG provide men you will be the best wall charging friends.
With the exception of low light camera performance everywhere else it's at top level and 6 months having the device not had any issue mention.
Before Axon 7 had S7 Edge so you can count that if wasn't pleased I would have returned back to Samsung very easy to me.
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paatha13 said:
Well with quality control issue with several LG flagship latest years I wish you really good good luck.
You will need 100%.
Also with 3200 battery at 5.7 inches with battery hungry and horrible quality LCD screen LG provide men you will be the best wall charging friends.
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What utter nonsense. The modular G5 was plainly a stupid idea. The G4, V10 and V20 were much better. I suspect Samsung will also start adopting decent DACs as well.
Battery life? Also nonsense. My Note 5 has a 5.7" screen and a 3200 battery and lasts as long as, if not longer than, the Axon.
As to signal, I have tested the two side by side and the Axon always loses signal much more quickly. I am not alone in this - loads of reports of it. Bluetooth? Pathetic.
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With the exception of low light camera performance everywhere else it's at top level
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Low light performance ? What about average or high light performance. By modern standards, the camera really is appalling.
And top level performance? Really? Mine (and many others) has never upgraded itself. I have always had to download the updates and apply them. Each upgrade has brought major bugs and the OS skin is appalling (let's not even discuss the notification bell) and buggy. I am not being subjective here - put it next to a Note 5 (which has a much older processor and awful, slow touchwiz) and you will see how the axon is so much less smooth and really struggles when you put it through its paces.
I am not trolling - I have just been around for a long time and seen what is possible in the evolution of phones. Other than the sound quality (which is phenomenal, even if the Bluetooth strength is absolutely crap compared to other phones) the Axon 7 just does not stack up. It wouldn't be an issue if it had been a really cheap phone....
Yes, it is ahead of the OP3 (but probably not the 3T) but that is hardly a good benchmark, not least given the prices
Just my two cents. Not expecting agreement in an Axon 7 forum!!!
Which Xiaomi devices (probably 2 I've heard) beat Samsung S8+ in performance?
Mi6 and Mi MIX 2
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Mi6 and Mi MIX 2
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Are these phones overall better than S8+?
Better than S8+?? Man nooo. But they can come real close to its performance, but also remember they are very worthy for the price you pay. Like someone has already said it's the Mi6 and Mi Mix2 the Mix 2 being the better one.
ArK96 said:
Better than S8+?? Man nooo. But they can come real close to its performance, but also remember they are very worthy for the price you pay. Like someone has already said it's the Mi6 and Mi Mix2 the Mix 2 being the better one.
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But looking at the specs we would expect that Mi Mix 2 should be faster, have better performance. Am I missing something?
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But looking at the specs we would expect that Mi Mix 2 should be faster, have better performance. Am I missing something?
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Specs are just to give the customers an idea of what a phone is capable of. Whether the device is fully able to utilise that power of its hardware depends on how the device is built by the manufacturer. Every single component used by Samsung on their flagships is the most advanced and most up to date hardwares available in the market. Xiaomi also uses the latest hardwares but due to their pricing they have to sacrifice on some things.
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Specs are just to give the customers an idea of what a phone is capable of. Whether the device is fully able to utilise that power of its hardware depends on how the device is built by the manufacturer. Every single component used by Samsung on their flagships is the most advanced and most up to date hardwares available in the market. Xiaomi also uses the latest hardwares but due to their pricing they have to sacrifice on some things.
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Yes, they did sacrifice the camera that makes poor quality photos in compare to Samung's
Just wanted to share this very direct comparison I found on YouTube, directly comparing the Snapdragon 855 to the Exynos 9820 both running on S10 software. Really not looking great for Exynos in relative comparison to the Snapdragon at least for the S10. Let me know what you guys think about this comparison.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgRnbm9wrzg
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Just wanted to share this very direct comparison I found on YouTube, directly comparing the Snapdragon 855 to the Exynos 9820 both running on S10 software. Really not looking great for Exynos in relative comparison to the Snapdragon at least for the S10. Let me know what you guys think about this comparison.
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1. Will that translate to real world? We all know the grain of salt to take with benchmarks.
2. That's as good as it gets for SD, exynos will have custom kernels that could improve performance.
Not to mention the exynos could have an edge on battery. I'm not worried a bit.
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1. Will that translate to real world? We all know the grain of salt to take with benchmarks.
2. That's as good as it gets for SD, exynos will have custom kernels that could improve performance.
Not to mention the exynos could have an edge on battery. I'm not worried a bit.
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I am also curious to know how this translates. The guy who created this benchmarks specifically states its supposed to translate to real world performance pretty well, but that's taking his word for it. We will see.
https://www.androidauthority.com/speed-test-g-926659/
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1. Will that translate to real world? We all know the grain of salt to take with benchmarks.
2. That's as good as it gets for SD, exynos will have custom kernels that could improve performance.
Not to mention the exynos could have an edge on battery. I'm not worried a bit.
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1. That depends on the user. Nobody really cares about a phone talking an extra second or two to open an app but if it's work related then your time wasted is money lost.
2. There are Snapdragon variants with unlocked bootloader's as well.
3. It doesn't. There are videos on YouTube you can search for.
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1. That depends on the user. Nobody really cares about a phone talking an extra second or two to open an app but if it's work related then your time wasted is money lost.
2. There are Snapdragon variants with unlocked bootloader's as well.
3. It doesn't. There are videos on YouTube you can search for.
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Do you happen to know which regions/models specifically will have an unlocked bootloader? How much development do you think we will see for those few models?
Really want an exynos chispset for the unlock, but none of them support band 71 as far as I know. Currently faced with a huge dilemma
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2. There are Snapdragon variants with unlocked bootloader's as well.
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Any info on who's selling a S10 SD with an unlocked bootloader?
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Do you happen to know which regions/models specifically will have an unlocked bootloader? How much development do you think we will see for those few models?
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Any info on who's selling a S10 SD with an unlocked bootloader?
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I'm sorry, I was under the impression that the Latin American and Hong Kong Snapdragon variants were unlocked from the start (previous models) but turns out they need to be unlocked manually, I assume though some type of vulnerability.
People are talking about cancelling preorders... Kneejerk reaction, or justified? Hard to say, but I do know Samsung set loose the very first update of many. Perhaps it'll shrink the performance delta.
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People are talking about cancelling preorders... Kneejerk reaction, or justified? Hard to say, but I do know Samsung set loose the very first update of many. Perhaps it'll shrink the performance delta.
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Thinking serious kneejerk borderlining on freakout, but I'll know tomorrow night. Coming from a Pixel 3 so I have a good standard to judge performance from.
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Thinking serious kneejerk borderlining on freakout, but I'll know tomorrow night. Coming from a Pixel 3 so I have a good standard to judge performance from.
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What we've been shown won't necessarily translate to "real" usage. The iPhone XS blows just about everything out of the water. Despite that, certain Android phones match it in silly speed tests.
The average consumer uses social media, YouTube, navigation, browser, and streams music/movies. Considering how well these run on budget phones I'm certain the 9820 will meet - if not exceed the expectations of buyers. Now... the area everyone wants to know about is efficiency. Will the SD or Exy take the crown this year?
Samsung has proven it knows what it's doing with exynos in years past. If there does happen to be an issue, I'm certain they can issue a fix for their in-house built processor.
Isn't this just the same old fundamental issue Anandtech much talked about with the Exynos S9 last year? At least its not looking as bad as last year's SOC.
Exynos fares better here (compared to other reviews).
https://m.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s10_plus-review-1901p5.php
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What we've been shown won't necessarily translate to "real" usage. The iPhone XS blows just about everything out of the water. Despite that, certain Android phones match it in silly speed tests.
The average consumer uses social media, YouTube, navigation, browser, and streams music/movies. Considering how well these run on budget phones I'm certain the 9820 will meet - if not exceed the expectations of buyers. Now... the area everyone wants to know about is efficiency. Will the SD or Exy take the crown this year?
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I can't post it because I'm new but Look at this one "Samsung Galaxy S10 Plus vs iPhone XS Max - Speed Test!" by XEETECHCARE, how can such "slow" chip defeat the XS Max most of the time? If Exynos is so crappy why does it still beat it?
Still no videos about the SD version against the iPhone, in theory it should beat it even harder, but I started to think that the power settings they use on the Exynos are more conservative, at least I hope that's the case.
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I can't post it because I'm new but Look at this one "Samsung Galaxy S10 Plus vs iPhone XS Max - Speed Test!" by XEETECHCARE, how can such "slow" chip defeat the XS Max most of the time? If Exynos is so crappy why does it still beat it?
Still no videos about the SD version against the iPhone, in theory it should beat it even harder, but I started to think that the power settings they use on the Exynos are more conservative, at least I hope that's the case.
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That is very impressive. Usually iphones are extremely hard to beat. It's good to see that Samsung is finally learning to remove bloatware and create much lighter software.
Here it is for anyone else;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uru9AnkgzHc
I think mostly the speed might come from UFS3.0. Soon someone will put snap vs exynos version next to each other, test it out and see which one is better so we will get a full picture. I don't play on my phone so day to day tasks and smoothness are the most important for me... Oh and battery life
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I think mostly the speed might come from UFS3.0. Soon someone will put snap vs exynos version next to each other, test it out and see which one is better so we will get a full picture. I don't play on my phone so day to day tasks and smoothness are the most important for me... Oh and battery life
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The S10 phones have UFS 2.1, the first phone with UFS 3.0 will be the Galaxy Fold
That xs max vs s10 video, scrolling was pretty choppy on the right phone.
The exynos model is alot better for battery life than the s9. As mentioned above the exynos model will usually run smoother and have better battery life.
Just got my S10e G970F setup and updated to the new patch with Feb security. This thing flies. Repeat.. no performance issues in casual use and I'm not sure under what conditions there would be issues. I'm sure Pubg runs just fine. Feels a noticable step faster than my Pixel 3, which is exactly what I was expecting. Full day battery test tomorrow..
Benchmarks are nothing.
(And really liking this phone so far)