I got my Pixel 6 today and was actually planning to switch from my iPhone 13 Pro. However, the auto brightness seems to bei very very sensitive to me, even If I stay in the same position with same light conditions it changes very hard. Die you think this ist a Bug or is my device defective? Any expierences?
It is using what Google call Adaptive brightness, when this was introduced it was hopeless on my Pixel 2 XL, but as they said, if you keep adjusting the brightness it does tend to learn over time, and after severa days on the Pixel 2 it always seemed spot on, and I've not touched the brightness slider in years!
Now on the Pixel 6 (I'm using the Pro) I find the brightness is all over the place again and I keep needing to adjust it all the time. In a dark room it keeps pushing the brightness back up, so I'm hoping the same is true and after a few days it will learn how I like it.
So give it couple of days is my advice, just keep adjusting it.
I'm more worried about the SOT. I haven't heard anything on Pixel 6, but for Pixel 6 Pro, the SOT can range from 3-4 to 6-7 hours. The spread is just too wide to accept!
Any findings elsewhere? Thanks.
Toms guide has some numbers, with the Google Pixel 6 Pro at 7 hours 53 minutes in their testing, see the chart and tests at https://www.tomsguide.com/uk/news/google-pixel-6-battery-life-tested-we-have-bad-news
I'm not sure how their test script works exactly. If it just loads as many pages as possible a faster phone may churn through more content and so uses more data and power. I.e. is it a real world test or torture test they used?
The phones over 4G appeared to get a couple of hours extra, pointing towards 5G with the Samsung modem perhaps not so well optimised or just not as good at power management as modems from Qualcomm. It could just be a local issue when they tested those devices and 5G signal was not so good or hit a more distant cell. Who knows.
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It is using what Google call Adaptive brightness, when this was introduced it was hopeless on my Pixel 2 XL, but as they said, if you keep adjusting the brightness it does tend to learn over time, and after severa days on the Pixel 2 it always seemed spot on, and I've not touched the brightness slider in years!
Now on the Pixel 6 (I'm using the Pro) I find the brightness is all over the place again and I keep needing to adjust it all the time. In a dark room it keeps pushing the brightness back up, so I'm hoping the same is true and after a few days it will learn how I like it.
So give it couple of days is my advice, just keep adjusting it.
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you are exactly right. The only time I have to ajust the brightness is when i get a new pixel for the first few days or after a factory reset. So I belive this is normal behavior. After you have made the ajustments to the way you like it it will learn and do it for you.
I hope this learning this is true because it's driving me mad at the moment. I can be sitting there on the phone and the slightest movement brightens or dims the screen. I'm using the slider but so far not noticed.
Same issue and they are correct with learning. Just heads up, I believe the sensor is in the camera strip so when you use the phone landscape playing games, be sure not to cover it. They should have an option in game mode later to disable adaptive when playing games.
I think I'm going manual.
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I'm starting to see a correlation between absolute crap-for-crap batter life and having the ambient light detector enabled. I'll do a test tomorrow, but I'm pretty sure if I just left my screen on full brightness all day, that I wouldn't get as bad of battery life as I do with the ambient light detector turned on.
Is there a problem with the fascinate's polling period? or possibly how much power is being sent TO the sensor? This might explain the problems on hacked roms where people are noticing a buzzing/hissing noise coming from the phone right around the area of the ambient light sensor when in the middle of a call (and the screen is on).
Has anybody seen where in the code the ambient light sensor is handled? (is it in the kernel, or somewhere in the drivers?).
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Thanks for moving my post. I was pretty annoyed with myself for posting in the wrong section.
*edit* Now that the thread has been moved, This post could probably be deleted.
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Well, since nobody has moved this to the other forum yet and it's received a few views, Has anybody else noticed this before?
My personal experience had been full brightness ate battery fast and low brightness was a combination of hard to read and similar drain to auto. Then again my phone has never hissed at me except for godawful noises using skype wifi sometimes, and I have never messed with brightness under froyo.
My only observation with froyo roms is that "stock" eb01 was awful but superclean and AOSP were pretty good, particularly under EB+ kernels.
Also, I lose more battery than I would like to from signal loss overnight, but turning off 3G seems to help with that.
Swyped grumpily from my advertised as "can be upgraded to Android 2.2" device.
i noticed that the automatic brightness setting is absolutely terrible at choosing the correct brightness.
the froyo roms added the ability to hold down on the status bar and move left and right to adjust the brightness, so i just use this to adjust it on the fly when necessary.
this doesn't really answer your question, but i figured i'd add my 2 cents
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This might explain the problems on hacked roms where people are noticing a buzzing/hissing noise coming from the phone right around the area of the ambient light sensor when in the middle of a call (and the screen is on).
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The noise comes from having the key backlights on during a call.
If you are referring to the softkeys, there were some assumptions that this was the case, but I have tested this out and have heard the noise even when those lights were turned off.
Also, I ran my phone at about half brightness today all day. I've had it off the charger for 15 hours, made 3 hours worth of phone calls, and it's still at 41% battery life.
2 days ago when I just had my phone in the pocket, not doing anything and leaving the screen off (with auto brightness enabled) my battery was dropping significantly after only 6 hours and no phone calls or Internet usage.
Problem: For most of us, the big, bright screen eats up most of our battery power. One advantage of LED screens is the darker you make them (including using dark backgrounds), the fewer milliamps they use. So you could turn off auto-brightness and manually adjust the brightness to darker settings. Far from perfect since you must adjust it every time you go from a dark building to a bright sunny day - and vice-versa. A pain.
I recently installed Screen Filter by haxor industries. They only tout its ability to make the screen really dark for night-time viewing, with the side benefit that it will also save some battery. It works great for that. It will make the screen much, much darker than the lowest stock brightness level (even using apps which take it to its absolute lowest setting, which the stock brightness slider won't allow you to do). I've found going to 25% is perfect. It makes the screen a little gray when you go really dark but its a minor downside.
Solution: I realized it can also be set to only dim the screen a little, like 75%, or 80%. Not helpful at all in a dark room since it is still very bright. But I also noticed that it works along with the stock auto-brightness setting. So you can apply a fairly bright setting to Screen Filter and leave it on all the time, effectively lowering the stock auto-brightness level a few notches no matter what brightness it picks. You still get the benefit of auto, and you get to reduce the battery draw all the time, on the single-biggest battery user on the Note.
You can save multiple widgets on the home screen, each set to different levels, so you can turn off the 75% setting and apply a 25% setting at night with two button presses. Or turn it off with one button press in bright sun. And/or you can add it as an app shortcut which allows you to adjust the brightness from an "ongoing notification" in the notification bar.
I'm starting a test today, leaving mine on 75% all the time with auto-brightness on, and using 25% in dark situations which doesn't happen often. I expect this will produce a noticeable improvement in battery life.
are you representing the app ?...or for the company?......
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Look at my post count and how long I've been on this board. No.
The app has no ads and is free, BTW.
Looks promising. Ran mine down to 5%. 15 hours on battery, 4 hours of screen time. Most people here only report 3 to 3 1/2 hours of screen time.
I just maintain my brightness, im anal like that. Especially with that notification shortcut for increasing or reducing brightness someone recently posted. i am good to go.
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I use screen filter and did not think to use it all the time with auto brightness, I will give it a go thanks for the idea.
Simply setting my brightness down to about 25% and leaving it I get 4.5~5 hours screen on time.
This is still working well for me, with a noticeable increase in battery time.
I've adjusted my lowest setting from 25% to 30%, too much of a gray cast to the screen at 25%. 30% is still pretty dark in a dark room. The 75% setting is good most of the time but I've found in full sun I usually have to turn it off.
Lol at wish777, ya he is promoting a free app. Do some research before you assume and accuse someone of something.
Thanks to op for app suggestion, it works great. I downloaded it, you must of brainwashed me with your deceiving free app propaganda
<--- that's me I don't know what happened I read your review then I blacked out, when I came to I had this strange FREE app on my phone
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Yes, the screen is almost always the biggest battery hog in these devices. Thanks for sharing that app.
Here is another, https://play.google.com/store/apps/...XJ2ZWZpc2gud2lkZ2V0cy5icmlnaHRuZXNzbGV2ZWwiXQ.. It is FREE, so no acusations. I am not the dev and I didn't even play one on TV. This one is nice because you have a single widget that pops up a window with several options of screen brightness.
ANd if you are using Juice Defender Ultimate, There is Brightness feature built in that do the same thing.
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Yes, the screen is almost always the biggest battery hog in these devices. Thanks for sharing that app.
Here is another, https://play.google.com/store/apps/...XJ2ZWZpc2gud2lkZ2V0cy5icmlnaHRuZXNzbGV2ZWwiXQ.. It is FREE, so no acusations. I am not the dev and I didn't even play one on TV. This one is nice because you have a single widget that pops up a window with several options of screen brightness.
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Looking at the reviews for that app, someone said that Dimmer takes the screen down farther. I tried Dimmer before Screen Filter (only for night time viewing) and can confirm it will take the Note down to the lowest allowed 10/255 where the stock brightness only allows you to go to 30/255. However, Screen Filter will make the screen even darker than Dimmer. Something to consider - not bashing any of the above. Just sounds like Screen Filter is better both for daytime and nightime use.
I use screen filter to read at night. I'm not sure about the battery savings but with screen filter set at 12.5% the screen is unreadable unless you are in a dark room. In a dark room at that level white text is more gray than white as well.
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asking a question is now the same as accusation?
good thread. i installed S.F. in Feb, def works great for me. but i prefer manually adjusting screen brightness via the shortcut "Slider" at top of the Gnote's screen
I use this app for night time reading. It works great and I didn't know about having multiple widgets with different darkness settings. Thanks for the pro tip!!!
Which app did he promote? I don't see any mention :-\
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Looks promising. Ran mine down to 5%. 15 hours on battery, 4 hours of screen time. Most people here only report 3 to 3 1/2 hours of screen time.
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I'm getting just shy of and over 4 hours screen time, depending how long I'm actually talking on the phone for that day. Not using this app btw, wifi at home, LTE everywhere else
Actually, for me, the screen is the number 3 item for killing battery, trumped by phone calls at number one. And I dont even spend that much time on phone calls, usually less than an hour per night (I wish I could find a solution for this besides not making / taking calls).
Under Settings->Display->Auto Adjust Screen Power, I have this DISABLED.
This helps significantly with the 'greys' on a dark screen (to the best of my limited comprehension, this is being called black crush?) AND virtually eliminates the 'banding' I was seeing initially. Strangely however, I had to disable this option and it took a day or two before the banding almost completely disappeared (I was seeing it ALOT on the Google Market initial grey screen before it loads in the ads).
I use Auto Brightness.
I also have Settings->Power Saving->All Options are DISABLED.
Anyway, you might try disabling the power saving and auto adjust screen power and see if that helps with black appearing grey using the app you are mentioning.
Use the 15 toggle mod to turn of all cellular data when you don't use your phone. You can still receive messages/calls but there is no reason to leave mobile data on while at work or you're not using the phone.
I usually leave school with around 90% battery left and I'm on school from 8-1. All because I leave data off while not in use.
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Though I feel Brightness setting 1 (presumably the lowest brightness setting) is too bright, the Auto setting is a drasticly lower brightness level over all, washing out the sharpness and vibrancy of the display in both ambient on and ambient off modes. It seems a shame to have to settle for the flat tire watch face when the overall effect of the light sensor living in that area does not seem to provide a worthy purpose.
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Though I feel Brightness setting 1 (presumably the lowest brightness setting) is too bright, the Auto setting is a drasticly lower brightness level over all, washing out the sharpness and vibrancy of the display in both ambient on and ambient off modes. It seems a shame to have to settle for the flat tire watch face when the overall effect of the light sensor living in that area does not seem to provide a worthy purpose.
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I just purchased this watch and was wondering that same thing. It's too early to come to a conclusion as I've literally only had it for a few hours. I'm going to try auto with "always on" and see how that does with battery, then maybe try number 1 on the same setting. Far as the flat tire that everyone is upset about, I can already say I would have rather had manual adjustment only with a full circular screen. Oh well I did all my homework between this watch and the Huawei. The one thing that gave this an edge was the 400 battery and the ability to switch bands at will. After a week or so I should have a good idea if this was a good purchase.
I got mine last week. For mr it was the 400 mAh battery and the watch face size. Anything under 46mm or a band less than 22mm would look silly on me.
On autp thr active screen is practically unreadable while the ambient screen OK.
Strange thing: my battery just went ftom 92% to practically 0 in what seemed to be less than 2 hours. And the screen was off the entire time.
Battery is great for me. Only lost 20% in 12 hours, about half that time I was using the "always on" screen mode or it would have been even less. I am not going to be a heavy user so that makes a difference, if you're someone who is using it all the time it's going to be a different story I'm sure.
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I got mine last week. For mr it was the 400 mAh battery and the watch face size. Anything under 46mm or a band less than 22mm would look silly on me.
On autp thr active screen is practically unreadable while the ambient screen OK.
Strange thing: my battery just went ftom 92% to practically 0 in what seemed to be less than 2 hours. And the screen was off the entire time.
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Your graph say that your screen stay ON 62% of the time, so it drop the battery in 2H. Maybe something touch the screen and your watch stay ON ?
I sometimes notice while wearing short sleeves that the screen comes on and never goes off even though Always on is set to Off. I usually notice when the watch or watch face becomes warm. But generally battery life is fine, requiring a charge every other day.
Another reason I chose the Moto over the Huawei watch or any other is wireless charging. No more corroded pogo pins for me!
I am at 33% and still haven't charged since I got the watch on Thursday. I do turn it off at night like I do my phone, but nonetheless that is great far as I'm concerned.
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Why does LG think it's ok to ship a watch with a 12 hour battery life, with minimal use. Just setting up the watch took %40 battery
Without sacrificing screen brightness is there anything to be done?? Is there any sort of root + cpu app we can lower CPU speed with??
Did you uncheck always on screen? Only option I have off and notice decent battery life for the entire day.
Mine goes for 16 hours once completely setup. If you start downloading and setting up this will surely tax the battery on any watch. The 240MAH doesn't help, but once setup it should be fine afterwards.
I had the LG G Watch R (w/ 420MAH) prior and setting up took a good deal of the battery but at EOD was at 65%, while the Style is at 40%.....understandable given the size of the battery.
I found mine was going dead by mid afternoon with little use.
I found turning auto screen brightness off and just leaving it on 4 helps. Also think after a couple of weeks use it's got better anyway. Usually on about 40-50% by the time I leave work.
Main problem I have is the little dial on the side is in a crop place, so my hand keeps pressing it an making assistant listen, eating up battery.
Really wish there was a screen rotation option so I could wear the watch with the dial on the opposite side.
Oh well!
I would like to see more options for ambient mode. I think the brightness is too high. I've only found one watchface that lets you control the color in ambient mode. It's called "line". I changed the ambient color to just red and decreased the opacity of the lines and complications. I've been off the charger for about an hour, received a few notifications and I'm still @ 99%. Might be a fluke, but I'm sure using a single color uses less battery than using white, which is all 3 colors combined.
This is my third smartwatch in 2 weeks. I've downgraded twice because others are just too bulky. I'm sure there's a solution out there. I hope battery life gets better in time with updates. I hate this range anxiety.
I just bought one and it is still too early to tell but battery life is fine for me. If I disable Bluetooth (which I know defeats the purpose of it) and WiFi with no ambient, it lasted me about 2 1/2 days (but I do turn it off at night since I have no need to keep it on while I sleep). If I keep Bluetooth on, no WiFi, and no ambient, it lasts the entire day (13 or 14 hours) with about 40% left. I have to do more testing (especially with ambient). You don't want the watch face on all the time anyway because it will cause screen burn-in. Some of the watch face apps allow you to use an ambient where it is usually black and white with less information showing.
Hello. Can anyone help with a battery model? Need to search for a replacement one but there is no info at the internet about its battery nor where to buy it....
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Hello. Can anyone help with a battery model? Need to search for a replacement one but there is no info at the internet about its battery nor where to buy it....
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Same here.
I looked everywhere. My battery is dead, it drops from 100% to around 30% as I disconnect it from the charger.
Even if we find the battery, the replacement looks hard. I was hoping to just get the Pixel Watch but I guess that's not going to happen.
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Well,
I expected a lot more from a phone that costed over 1000 $ when released.
Although I did purchased it used,many things frustrate me a lot so lets go by order:
1. Yellowish tint on screen which makes white color not so white,like the night filter option is ON,screen is not changed on this phone,so only thing I could do is go to vivid settings decrease red channel all the way and set colors to more cooler tone,but just setting to Natural display settings yellow tone is more then noticeable..
Dunno is it just my phone or any others experience this issue.
2.Battery is terrible.I noticed last night drop of 4 % while only GSM in 4 hours so I suppose while in stanby it looses 1 % per hour,my Ulefone Power 5S doesn't loose any battery capacity while ON though it has 13 000 mAh battery.
This issue I couldn't resolve,I suppose it is like that way,because I had same issue before with Note 8 which was bought used,though phone was not used that much because I was frustrated with battery lasting at most 1 day of mediocre usage.
While this phone is on WiFi battery loses capacity drastically.
I even switched it to power saving mode ON,turned off all gestures,turned black theme on,every possible way to save battery but still loosing capacity with simple GSM signal.
3 Wifi quality signal is pretty bad,even my good old S7 edge beats the 1000 $ phone,it usually is droping signal from other networks id there are many outdoors but indoors it has good quality signal.
I figured out for unknown reason that when I turn OFF power saving signal I do get better Wifi quality/strength signal,dunno why,is it just me phone or what the f..k.
4. Very bad sound quality from caller ovet network,while outdoors I can barely hear someone talking while making calls.
Dunno what else,if I remember I will post in same topic,don't think it's just my phone because I see many comlaining about this on this very own forum.
I can't tell anything positive for a phone that costed 1000 $ and I can't get over these things,so Samsung what where you thinking when you released this phone.
No more Samsung phones for me,next I will try Huawei.
Well, I sincerely do not recognize what you describe as a note 10+, not a single issue you mention has happened to me, if you are so frustrated, sell it
have no ideia what phone you're speaking of. Mine's over 2 years old already since I got it. Screen still crisp, battery is day and a half, I don't charge it at night, I just charge it at work from 43% almost everytime, so it's the full day, the night and charge it in the morning with around 43 ish.
I keep BT/WIF/4G/gestures ... all bell and whistles on at all times...
I think that phone was already fixed and badly, that's the only thing I can think of. Maybe abused AF but still...
Happy camper here ...
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have no ideia what phone you're speaking of. Mine's over 2 years old already since I got it. Screen still crisp, battery is day and a half, I don't charge it at night, I just charge it at work from 43% almost everytime, so it's the full day, the night and charge it in the morning with around 43 ish.
I keep BT/WIF/4G/gestures ... all bell and whistles on at all times...
I think that phone was already fixed and badly, that's the only thing I can think of. Maybe abused AF but still...
Happy camper here ...
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Like you I got my 10+ 2 years ago. It's still running on Pie. Current OS load is over a year old, still fast and stable. One battery replacement so far. Zero display pixels are damaged or showing any signs of deterioration.
The display's color gamut is damn near spot on.
Its still one of the best displays out there.
This phone looks and runs like it was new.
Picked up another new 10+ 3 days ago. Been testing it. The display is perfect. No damaged pixels. This one is running on Android 10 though. It seems as snappy as my Pie variant and it appears scoped storage isn't active unlike 11. Camera improvements came with 10 too as well as better dark mode support. That said the settings section is noticeably worse especially apps.
The only major issue is it killed Karma Firewall's valuable logging feature. I will find a work around hopefully.
Bottom line, I'll take the 10+ over all the phones Samsung has released after it including the 20 Ultra. The 10+'s display has slightly better color rendering than the 20U although it's limited at 60hz. Which isn't all bad as it has better battery life.
The phone is built rock solid and with a good case/screen protector will give years of trouble free premium performance. With 12 gb of ram it's performance is only slightly less then the newest phones. With no Android 11, 5G or variable refresh rate to bog it down it's not lagging far behind the newest phones in speed.
The last thing you want is an Android running on 11. This OS is a dog.
OP, some of your issues are settings and configuration. A poorly coded 3rd party app, like a book reading app, may have alter hidden settings for the display. Adjust in that app to eliminate it. If you uninstalled the app, you will need to reinstall that app to toggle off the night filter... been there, done that.
Otherwise a factory reset will purge it.
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Like you I got my 10+ 2 years ago. It's still running on Pie. Current OS load is over a year old, still fast and stable. One battery replacement so far. Zero display pixels are damaged or showing any signs of deterioration.
The display's color gamut is damn near spot on.
Its still one of the best displays out there.
This phone looks and runs like it was new.
Picked up another new 10+ 3 days ago. Been testing it. The display is perfect. No damaged pixels. This one is running on Android 10 though. It seems as snappy as my Pie variant and it appears scoped storage isn't active unlike 11. Camera improvements came with 10 too as well as better dark mode support. That said the settings section is noticeably worse especially apps.
The only major issue is it killed Karma Firewall's valuable logging feature. I will find a work around hopefully.
Bottom line, I'll take the 10+ over all the phones Samsung has released after it including the 20 Ultra. The 10+'s display has slightly better color rendering than the 20U although it's limited at 60hz. Which isn't all bad as it has better battery life.
The phone is built rock solid and with a good case/screen protector will give years of trouble free premium performance. With 12 gb of ram it's performance is only slightly less then the newest phones. With no Android 11, 5G or variable refresh rate to bog it down it's not lagging far behind the newest phones in speed.
The last thing you want is an Android running on 11. This OS is a dog.
OP, some of your issues are settings and configuration. A poorly coded 3rd party app, like a book reading app, may have alter hidden settings for the display. Adjust in that app to eliminate it. If you uninstalled the app, you will need to reinstall that app to toggle off the night filter... been there, done that.
Otherwise a factory reset will purge it.
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Here 20 Ultra is like 250 euros more expensive?
Do you think it's 250 euros better phone?
I mean I get 120 HZ display and 108 MPX camera and stronger CPU (I'm not planing to render videos).
But don't think at all that is worth giving 10 plus and extra 250 e for it.
I meant on used phones.
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Here 20 Ultra is like 250 euros more expensive?
Do you think it's 250 euros better phone?
I mean I get 120 HZ display and 108 MPX camera and stronger CPU (I'm not planing to render videos).
But don't think at all that is worth giving 10 plus and extra 250 e for it.
I meant on used phones.
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The 10+ has slightly better display color accuracy and better battery life.
The new one I got is loaded with Android 10 and seems to run strong.
More than likely the 20U's will come with 11, no way I'm touching that OS version. 11 will eat into the increase in CPU speed of the 20U.
Android 11 is the biggest strike against the 20U and Samsung version of it is especially not a charm.
I like the laser focus on the 20U but the cam hump is a burden. Like the faster spen response as well. The 5G be nice but not needed.
Many of the sellers stateside aren't showing full specs ie the variant of the 20U they are selling. A lot of seedy crap going on with both models but it's worse with the 20U.
It became a major headache to the point where it simply wasn't worth the risk. Getting a factory sealed new unit is important to me as is getting exactly what I want. The 10+ still had one surprise Q instead of Pie, but it turned out not to be a ball breaker. May even update my older one to that version.