I've just bought an S21 to replace my S10e work phone but been struggling for the past 2 hours trying to restore my call logs, messages, apps, homescreen and everything else. Prior to doing this, I successfully completed a backup on my S10e to the Samsung Cloud.
When trying to restore my data to my S21 is where things get really messy and complicated! Powering on the S21 for the first time doesn't provide me with an option to restore from the Samsung Cloud. I had to get past the initial setup of the phone to reach the default home screen before I was able to attempt a restore from Samsung Cloud. It's now on the Settings, Home Screen & Apps bit and is taking absolutely forever!
1. Is this normal for a super fast phone like this?
2. It's not restored my WhatsApp & its message data. Why is this?
The last time I restored my data on my iPhone using iCloud, it took less than 30 minutes for everything.
Get a OTG .5tb flashstick for "dirty" backups.
A SD card slot makes life much easier...
In addition to the above...
Use at least 2 hdds that are physically and electronically isolated from each other and the PC to redundantly backup critical data.
Do not rely on SmartSwitch, backup by cut/paste for critical data. Verify the copy is readable and the correct size and folder amount.
The restore finished in the end. It just took a very long time. Some apps didn't restore themselves so I had to do a compare against the home screen on my S10e and download the missing apps.
WhatsApp didn't even get backed up to Samsung Cloud so I had to back it up to Google Drive and restore from there.
The whole process has been quite clunky and confusing but got there in the end.
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Is there anyway to backup everything (all settings, all apps, all data, home screens, shortcuts, BT pairings etc.) on GB and have it perfectly restored after a new OS version upgrade (ICS) ? I have been researching this on various sites but can't find a clear answer. I know if I root my Note I can create a NANDROID backup image. But when restored it restores the OS as well. Correct? Or is there a way to restore a NANDROID backup with out restoring the OS? Or will using Titanium or My Backup Pro accomplish what I'm asking for? THANX!
You are correct on nandroid, no way to do it without the OS. You will have to re set up all of your settings and bt pairings afaik. Titanium will restore all of your installed apps, but not how you had everything set up. As for texts, there are some SMS backup apps on the market. Some launchers also provide the ability to backup how you had them set up, but I'm not sure which ones, and if you're not using it currently it wouldn't do much good anyways. Also, if you're doing the update through kies, it will wrote everything off your phone, so be sure to transfer your photos to your computer before you do. Also, if you use titanium, you would have to transfer that file to your computer before using kies.
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Maybe I'm repeating this... Titanium does not keep the settings? I dont particularly like Titanium because I want to select my important apps and do a batch backup to my SD card. I want it to keep the settings and logins too. Then, when I get a new rom, I can load the app, settings, log ins and everything.
Is this not possible?
I use 128 bit passwords that are about 30 characters long, so I end up texting myself my AndroidMarket password and using the online market to push the apps to the phone over wifi. Then I use USB to copy over a KeePass database and load KeePass Droid to start setting all my logins for VOIP, emails, media apps, etc. since it has a notification bar user/pswd dropdown to copy. It is more time consuming than I prefer, it makes it impossible to really try new roms that often, keepass makes it at least bearable.
Would you care to tell me how people manage to use nightly builds and things of that nature while not spending hours plugging in all the settings?
Titanium restores app data.
The first batch of each sub section is what i use.
Backup:
Backup all user apps
Restore:
Restore missing apps with data
Theoretically you could backup all system data that appears with green txt I'm the list of programs in tibu, which would include things such as Wi-Fi password and bt pairings i believe.
but if you were to have issues by restoring that, because restoring system data can be funky sometimes, you'd have to factory reset and start over, so that part is up to you.
I don't do anything other than the batches i mentioned above.
If you are upgrading ICS from a stock GB then you won't lose your app, its data and contact.
But settings, home keys and shortcuts will be initiated.
I don't know how to back it up but I usually screen shot those and then just redo when I have a new rom installed.
Quick Question regarding remote wipes and overall security of the phone's data in case of a loss/theft
Background story:
On New Year's Eve my good friend's iPhone 5S got stolen out of his pocket in a crowded club.
So I lent him my phone and we logged into iCloud using the Chrome Browser and triggered the wipe of the iPhone.
I offered him to call the credit card company and such if he had delicate data stored on the phone. But he refused...he trusts Apple's iCloud wipe routine and said he tested it at home and the phone was completely empty after that.
And he was surprisingly calm during the whole situation.
Okay he pays for insurance that covers a stolen phone, but I would have totally freaked out about my data...account logins, stored files and pictures, evernote notes, dropbox files etc.
My experience with the Android remote wipe:
Last evening I wanted to give it a try on my Android phone. So I pulled all the data that was on my phone and performed a nandroid-Backup of the system-files within TWRP and backed up my apps and data using TitaniumBackup.
And then I tried the Android Device Manager, which I had activated since it got released somewhen 2013, but never really tested more than the "localize" and "ring phone" functions.
Just yesterday I noticed the new "lock screen" function. Which is great, but I have always been using pattern locks anyway (triggered by Tasker, if my Wifi is not near). It's still nice to have and works like a charm (if the phone is connected to the internet).
So in addition I ordered my phone to get wiped. And it did what it said...it booted into Recovery and performed a factory reset / full-wipe.
But still all the data on the virtual sdcard was accessible after entering the SIM's pin code (I assume switching SIMs wouldn't change that) and setting up a new user profile. I know that it displays a warning that sdcards might not be wiped, during the process, but I thought this was referring to additional physical "microSD" storage. How wrong I was.
So all my pictures and stored files were fully accessible from the new user account.
If you store your unencrypted TitaniumBackup files on there the thief could easily restore them.
So encrypt them!
I was a bit shocked, to be honest.
And especially the fact that someone can access my phone's files without even knowing the lockscreen pattern/pin by simply booting into recovery bugs me.
Does encrypting the phone help in this situation?
Are there any drawbacks? I guess the speed and overall performance will decrease?
How can I protect the Recovery (I've got a HTC ONE, which is S-OFF'd and the bootloader unlocked via htcdev.com)?
Should I reflash the stock-recovery after flashing a CustomROM to at least make the thief require to reinstall the custom-recovery?
What other ways are there to protect the phone's data?
I don't let ADB turned on. (But this doesn't affect getting into recovery by rebooting.)
I don't keep nandroid/TitaniumBackup Backups on the phone. I pull them immediately onto a local computer after creation and delete them on the phone.
...what else?
To me booting the phone into recovery, hooking it up to any computer and using ADB to pull the sdcard's files is the most concerning security loop-hole. What am I saying...it's a shining and welcoming entrance with neon-signs all around it like a casino.
And exactly this is what taking my phone with me feels like, after the experience described above: GAMBLING...
Thanks in advance!
Every hint is very welcome
PS: If you want to try the wipe with the Android device manger yourself, be prepared that restoring the nandroid-Backup won't be possible! After a short while the phone will reboot itself and get wiped again.
The only way to restore the phone's former state was to restore the apps backups using TitaniumBackup in my case. Unfortunately some settings won't get restored, so I had to reenter all my mail accounts.
Just be prepared that it takes some time
PPS: I already posted this in the thread of the ROM I am currently using. Obviously no one didn't care over there So I thought the question might be to broad and ROM-unrelated. Hence the repost here. :angel:
No one? :angel:
I've tried the Samsung Smart Switch app (I think that's the name) via wireless and wired and just using Google backup/restore but my application data absolutely refuses to copy over to the new phone. My apps are copied over but the underlying data that goes with them, nowhere to be found. I know Google says that after the restore is complete, when the app is installed on the new phone, the data (that it just got done backing up to Google drive), will be restored. I've factory reset my Note 10 Plus twice now and tried all sorts of different ways but save game data and data from pretty much all my apps just isn't being restored. I'd take my phone to Verizon but due to distance, that isn't possible. If I can't fix it myself, I guess I'll just start my games over but would really like to avoid that.
Any ideas?
What do you use to back up and restore to PC? I tried Wondershare Mobile trans but it sticks at a certain point and I have to cancel and it takes hours and I lose progress! Any info on what others are using for backup tp PC would be great!
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There is a bit of a learning curve to set it up as you want to,but once you do get the hang of it you can back up all the usual things (contacts,calendars,photos,music,etc)
Everything on my unrooted 10+ is backed up to the SD card which I use as a data drive and store all critical data there. The SD card is backed up to the PC data drive and a seperate hdd stored remotely. Critical bookmarks are saved on Colornote which is 3X backup.
Smartswitch is used for some backup and apps like Poweramp have their own backup files.
All apks and updates are backed up with ApkExport as well; no Playstore or cloud crap needed for a full restore. I can do a full restore with no external sources needed.
After 2 forced reloads I streamlined the process... with over 349 gb of data, the data drive saves hours of uploading from the PC.
Implement a complete plan now before you need it and have triple redundancy in place.
Only two types of data users; those who have lost data and those that will.
Crashes both software/hardware caused are mostly unpredictable and can happen at any moment.
The 10+ is rock solid stable but no OS is completely impervious to poorly written apks and malware. Be prepared... or suffer.
jenmal said:
I tried Wondershare Mobile trans
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That is the only product that worked at all from that company. Well, of those I tested because of this.
File encrypted! How can I open it!! HELP!!
I see, but how come when I load up a bruteforce program (passfab for rar as an example), it doesn't detect it as an encrypted file? Like, sometimes it doesn't even show up visibly in my directory as a usable file. I get what you're saying, but...
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Better stay away from their software. Too heavy and bad programming in general. Also backups can be restored only if you buy the s*it...
Better just take an attitude that nothing is that important. Tons of stuff but I don't have backups at all. If it goes it goes. Before computers how people managed to live at all without them...
Have never used 3rd-party apps , free or paid. I do it via simple scripts.
Apart from missing call logs or text messages, am trying to figure out why I need to use Samsung SmartSwitch (setting up another new S21 and have setup previously another S21 and used SmartSwitch)
All apps used are on Google Sync and contacts are all on contacts.google.com for the accounts I primarily use.
What important or essential "stuff" will be missed by non-use of SmartSwitch and just letting Google restore "it's things" ?
This is what samsung backs up
So basically there is no value in SmartSwitch for my additional phone as Google itself has the important bits. It is no trouble to connect wifi for the office, home and bluetooth for car. Old messages are not important at all. Contacts all on Google.
xdafly said:
So basically there is no value in SmartSwitch for my additional phone as Google itself has the important bits. It is no trouble to connect wifi for the office, home and bluetooth for car. Old messages are not important at all. Contacts all on Google.
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Hi. I just used yesterday to change my old A8 to my new S21. I didn't have any trouble. Even my app layout on the screen were similar. I recommend you use it. No damage and it makes migration easier. Just remember to backup you whatsapp history before changing sim to the new phone. Then, when you open wap in the new, it will say that detected a backup and ask if you want to restore it.
Goog luck!
Have setup now several new S21 phones and have *not* used SmartSwitch. Nothing went missing and nothing was missed. All apps that mattered were handled by Google Drive/Docs/Sync. Some apps needed a re-identity verification which was simply password/text or email message for 2-step-auth
Will not continue to use SmartSwitch on any tablets or phones
do you guys know how to copy existing wifi passwords from an old not Samsung device to a brand new S21? during inital setup it doesn't ask to recovery from a google backup and smartswitch copies all but wifi settings
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do you guys know how to copy existing wifi passwords from an old not Samsung device to a brand new S21? during inital setup it doesn't ask to recovery from a google backup and smartswitch copies all but wifi settings
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https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/86zkzf
Trust nothing.
Make backup hard copies of all critical data and store in at least 2 hdds that are physically and electronically isolated from each other. A flash drive can be used too but it must be backed up by hdds. Verify the copies integrity and -do not- use cloning apks to copy, especially music databases (it can and will lose needed null data).
What's in the cloud isn't in your hand and can be lost forever. Let that sink in...
Plan ahead and backup now or you will lose data.
Google backup wastes a lot of battery backing things up and from there forward. Unfortunately if you have no SD card slot you lost your best backup tool.
As for SmartSwitch it probably will work but it could also drag with it issues from the old OS or fail to work. Have at least one other backup plan using hdds. Stagger doing backups between the hdds to minimize the chances of your database being compromised by malware.
$hit happens... count on it, otherwise sooner or latter the odds will catch up with your data.