I seen a few forums on some people disappointed with he nee Pixel 6. I am one of them and just initiated the return. Are you keeping yours or sending it back?
Keeping it. Don't understand why people would be disappointed.
Still undecided, but I'm not happy either.. it's chunky, it'S heavy, and it's slippery... so much worse than the 5
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Still undecided, but I'm not happy either.. it's chunky, it'S heavy, and it's slippery... so much worse than the 5
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That's what surprised me as well.
I haven't ordered the pixel 6 but i was really surprised when i saw the weight of the device.
drmason said:
Still undecided, but I'm not happy either.. it's chunky, it'S heavy, and it's slippery... so much worse than the 5
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I wasn't hyperaware of the weight when I was playing with the phone displays at the store... but it's a little over 20g heavier than my current phone. Wonder how big of a deal it will be to me once the pixel becomes the daily.
Pollie81 said:
That's what surprised me as well.
I haven't ordered the pixel 6 but i was really surprised when i saw the weight of the device.
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I would understand if this would make a great SOT, but right now... it's not better than my 5. Not really sure if it needs to adapt a little or it's just not effiecient.
Sadly I might not. I have until the 11th to initiate a return. If nothing changes with the fingerprint scanner it's going back to Google.
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Sadly I might not. I have until the 11th to initiate a return. If nothing changes with the fingerprint scanner it's going back to Google.
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Thats another point I don't like, the capacitive on the back was perfect, even with the swipe gesture.. the one on the front is just anonyin with this footprint.
To be fair though, in screen fingerprint readers have been notoriously finicky at launch for most phones.
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To be fair though, in screen fingerprint readers have been notoriously finicky at launch for most phones.
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False. I'm going based off experiences with other scanners I've used in the past. I've had the Oneplus 6T, amongst other 1st generation optic scanners they worked better out the box unlike the P6. I like the phone don't get me wrong but people need to stop making excuses for this fingerprint scanner. It performs poorly or not at all.
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False. I'm going based off experiences with other scanners I've used in the past. I've had the Oneplus 6T, amongst other 1st generation optic scanners they worked better out the box unlike the P6. I like the phone don't get me wrong but people need to stop making excuses for this fingerprint scanner. It performs poorly or not at all.
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I've used the OnePlus 6T since launch. (And still using it.) There *were definitely significant issues with the optical scanner at launch as well. And people complained and OnePlus pushed out updates, and it eventually became much more stable.
I'm definitely keeping it. It's superior in every way to the OnePlus 9. Far better hardware and experience than the Pixel 5. While no phone has been perfect for me since the OnePlus 6, this is about as close at it can get after installing Ruthless launcher.
Absolutely! I'll be selling my 1+9 and keeping this phone. Happy I made the switch thus far, not gonna look back. Will be excited to see tensor evolve as time goes on in this ecosystem.
Op6T being referenced as a good scanner. There's a first. That said both it and p6 perform ok for me none better than the other even though p6 scanner should be 3 years newer.
6T was used as a reference since the previous person stated all optic fingerprints are bad out the box. That's false. Hence the reference.
Oneplus 6T
Vivo Nex S
Hell even the Nokia Pure View didn't perform this bad out the box.
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Op6T being referenced as a good scanner. There's a first. That said both it and p6 perform ok for me none better than the other even though p6 scanner should be 3 years newer.
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Exactly the point I was trying to make. OnePlus 6T at launch was a significantly worse scanner than it was after they pushed thru some software updates. (I didn't say it was good. I just said at launch it was much worse.) Pixel 6 has only been out for 2 days. I would expect to see the usability increase.
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Exactly the point I was trying to make. OnePlus 6T at launch was a significantly worse scanner than it was after they pushed thru some software updates. (I didn't say it was good. I just said at launch it was much worse.) Pixel 6 has only been out for 2 days. I would expect to see the usability increase.
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Totally agree.
i'll probably keep it just to get the android updates first (this is my first pixel), but im not super thrilled with it so far... maybe some software updates will make it better.
Things im not impressed with:
- In screen fingerprint scanner is very bad for me.
- Random reboots
- not impressed with sound quality
- no gesture to turn on flashlight?
- no beep after saying 'hey google' when it is ready for input.
---update Fixed this. Settings > Accessibility > Voice Access > Switch on Use Voice Access.
- No face unlock
Other than that, I like the looks / feel / speed / display / wireless charging / free earbuds
I'm also disappointed regarding the display (feels cheap, weird color shift depending on the angles), really poor optimisation considering the hardware. My OP6 with a custom kernel had pretty much the same smoothness and my OP8T with Neutrino is miles ahead. I was hyped with a12, in the end it's bot so good.
I will keep it for the community, the official support and the camera, but I gotta say i'm overall a bit disappointed.
I have traditionally used Google phones. There have been a few Motorola's in there. I'll definitely be keeping it.
My only issue with it is how slippery it is.
When it comes to everything else, I think it's perfect.
I have a case coming in tomorrow.
Pixel 6 Black.
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Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the Honor 8 Pro, all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the Honor 8 Pro is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
The only slight icky thing on this phone is battery life which could have been better definitely. Heating is another slightly icky issue. Otherwise, there is no zone on this phone which can disappoint you!
The honor 8 Pro has it's own quirks and sub-optimal menus. But overall, it's still good!
Honor is a pretty underrated companies functioning out there, with their Kirin Processor they basically blow Mediatek and Snapdragon out of the water and their cameras, I remember them to be the first to implement RGB+Monochrome sensors in their phone and the display just to dope, there phones need more attention!
I love this one. Planning in buying one too.
I really love my phone, I am feeling good .
My relative got this, loved it.
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My relative got this, loved it.
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Good news
really a competitor to OP5 in less price. With EMUI 5.1 and most probably an O update in future, this is really awesome.
Camera, Battery, smoothness, RAM management is pretty good and no comparison to camera for sure.
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Overall a full pack device
Completely in love with the device and for the first time, I am perfectly happy with my phone.
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Great device no doubt
K.khiladi said:
Completely in love with the device and for the first time, I am perfectly happy with my phone.
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Happy users
:good:
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Happy users
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Yup never been so happy with a device. [emoji6]
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It's been a while since I've been this happy overall with a phone. It just look and feels great. Only thing that is a let down for me is the sound in headphones which lacks depth.
device is amazingly fast..love this device
I'm now in love with this device.
Honor 8 Pro review, after 40 days of use.
I have used 2 phones over the past 4 years, the iconic Samsung Note 2, and Redmi Note 3. A year into its life cycle, the redmi had started showing its age. It was time for a change.
• OP5 Comparison
o The 2 phones that came to mind were One Plus 5 and Honor 8 Pro. I was very confused between the two and took a long time researching. Following tipped the scales in favor of H8P:
Grammar Nazi – I am a self-acknowledged grammar Nazi. Spelling and grammatical errors bother me. The OP5 website contains a glaring grammatical error. I even tweeted them about it, but it never changed. This may not be applicable to others, but this troubles me. It is also an indicator of attention to detail.
https://twitter.com/BalwantPadaki/status/888992936406376448
Jelly scrolling effect – This is a big one. And it is there on EVERY OP5. Some notice, some don’t. Some are bothered by it, some are not. I used my friends OP5 for a bit, and I saw that the Jello gets in the way every time one interacts with the phone. Very irritating.
Ethics:
• Data Privacy – A cell phone contains a lot of personal information. I would rather trust a big trusted conglomerate over a start up. Sure enough, just after I bought it, this report came out: Oxygen OS is sourcing personally identifiable information.
https://www.xda-developers.com/oxyg...nally-identifiable-information-for-analytics/
• Benchmark cheating : https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-5/how-to/op5-benchmark-cheating-t3624651
The above factors meant that OP5, and any future OP phones, were ‘no-go’ for me.
• Pre-purchase concerns about H8P:
o Heating Concerns: If there was one concern about the H8P that I had it was this! Almost everyone said that there was a heating issue with the phone.
Once I got the phone (early Oct’17), I got an alert for the B150 software update. This came within 15 minutes of the phone setup. This was the update that was supposed to fix the heating issue.
And it did! In 40 days I have not experienced over-heating even once. No exaggeration. Even extended camera use was handled with aplomb!
This one turned out extraordinarily well.
o Software Update Speed: This concern is still valid. However, Honor has been very keen in developing a dedicated community. The discussions on Honor meets have helped ease most of my concerns.
o Software : EMUI 5.1 is a gem of a software. I have found vanilla android to be very boring, and would opt for a skinned android any day. EMUI was never really a concern for me, it seems like a concern for a lot of people.
• Pros : Most other reviews have covered this. Hence I will not waste much space on this. Same old pros: Butter smooth performance, great screen, good battery & charging speed, OUTSTANDING camera, 128 GB Storage !
• Cons :
o Screen is highly reflexive. It is a bit tough to read/watch videos under direct sunlight;
o A big CON is the non-availability of accessories from the local markets. Doesn’t sound like a big deal, but it is. It is impossible to get phone covers/screen protectors locally. Honor doesn’t make it easy by providing options in this regard. I have struggled to buy a screen guard, and have not had any luck in that regard;
o This is a big phone. Those uncomfortable with this should stay away. It is leaner and lighter than the Iphone 7+ though;
o Knuckle gestures are very irritating. Wish they be replaced by something that doesn’t involve punching a brand new phone!
• Improvement Suggestions for H9P:
o Please find space for a stylus… Given one, this phone will blow the Note series out of water!
• X factor : Got this baby for a 4K discount!
All in all, a great device. If heating issue is what bothers you, buy it with a peace of mind.
baz_303 said:
I have used 2 phones over the past 4 years, the iconic Samsung Note 2, and Redmi Note 3. A year into its life cycle, the redmi had started showing its age. It was time for a change.
•OP5 Comparison
oThe 2 phones that came to mind were One Plus 5 and Honor 8 Pro. I was very confused between the two and took a long time researching. Following tipped the scales in favor of H8P:
Grammar Nazi – I am a self-acknowledged grammar Nazi. Spelling and grammatical errors bother me. The OP5 website contains a glaring grammatical error. I even tweeted them about it, but it never changed. This may not be applicable to others, but this troubles me. It is also an indicator of attention to detail.
https://twitter.com/BalwantPadaki/status/888992936406376448
Jelly scrolling effect – This is a big one. And it is there on EVERY OP5. Some notice, some don’t. Some are bothered by it, some are not. I used my friends OP5 for a bit, and I saw that the Jello gets in the way every time one interacts with the phone. Very irritating.
Ethics:
•Data Privacy – A cell phone contains a lot of personal information. I would rather trust a big trusted conglomerate over a start up. Sure enough, just after I bought it, this report came out: Oxygen OS is sourcing personally identifiable information.
https://www.xda-developers.com/oxyg...nally-identifiable-information-for-analytics/
•Benchmark cheating : https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-5/how-to/op5-benchmark-cheating-t3624651
The above factors meant that OP5, and any future OP phones, were ‘no-go’ for me.
•Pre-purchase concerns about H8P:
oHeating Concerns: If there was one concern about the H8P that I had it was this! Almost everyone said that there was a heating issue with the phone.
Once I got the phone (early Oct’17), I got an alert for the B150 software update. This came within 15 minutes of the phone setup. This was the update that was supposed to fix the heating issue.
And it did! In 40 days I have not experienced over-heating even once. No exaggeration. Even extended camera use was handled with aplomb!
This one turned out extraordinarily well.
oSoftware Update Speed: This concern is still valid. However, Honor has been very keen in developing a dedicated community. The discussions on Honor meets have helped ease most of my concerns.
oSoftware : EMUI 5.1 is a gem of a software. I have found vanilla android to be very boring, and would opt for a skinned android any day. EMUI was never really a concern for me, it seems like a concern for a lot of people.
•Pros : Most other reviews have covered this. Hence I will not waste much space on this. Same old pros: Butter smooth performance, great screen, good battery & charging speed, OUTSTANDING camera, 128 GB Storage !
•Cons :
oScreen is highly reflexive. It is a bit tough to read/watch videos under direct sunlight;
oA big CON is the non-availability of accessories from the local markets. Doesn’t sound like a big deal, but it is. It is impossible to get phone covers/screen protectors locally. Honor doesn’t make it easy by providing options in this regard. I have struggled to buy a screen guard, and have not had any luck in that regard;
oThis is a big phone. Those uncomfortable with this should stay away. It is leaner and lighter than the Iphone 7+ though;
oKnuckle gestures are very irritating. Wish they be replaced by something that doesn’t involve punching a brand new phone!
•Improvement Suggestions for H9P:
oPlease find space for a stylus… Given one, this phone will blow the Note series out of water!
•X factor : Got this baby for a 4K discount!
All in all, a great device. If heating issue is what bothers you, buy it with a peace of mind.
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I don't think any screen guard will apply on it because of the 2.5D curved glass on front.
Also, rest assured. Oreo will come within a month or two.
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Ordered mine by exchanging op3 in India.
Looking for great experience
After half a year or so(or longer? Lol) I must say that this phone has been working perfectly and I've been more than happy with it. Screen quality, responsiveness (both hardware and software) and battery life among the best under 500€ ever.
Just hope Honor keeps up the updates, if so then this phone will easily be up there with in my top 3 best phones ever, right after the legendary 3310 and Sony Z2 (no heating issues here).
Now you've had the Mate 20 Pro for a while, taking into account the camera, battery and overall experience. Would you recommend this phone to friends and would you buy the phone again yourself?
At this point I haven't had any negative experience...I'm more frustrated with the decisions that Google made in Android Pie than anything related to the phone itself.
So yeah, I have recommended it to friends.
No. I really don't enjoy using EMUI.
I think it's an excellent phone but just the fact that I live in the USA where the M20P has no warranty or support makes it difficult to recommend. EMUI also will turn off certain people and the aggressive battery management is kind of a love it or hate it thing. I would buy this phone again but recommending it to a friend is another matter.
Not decided yet... Memory management is far too aggressive. The rest of EMUI I can live with at the moment. It's very hard to ignore the amazing battery, screen and camera. I came from a note 8 and it was a close run thing between the mate and the note. Time will tell!
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I think it's an excellent phone but just the fact that I live in the USA where the M20P has no warranty or support makes it difficult to recommend. EMUI also will turn off certain people and the aggressive battery management is kind of a love it or hate it thing. I would buy this phone again but recommending it to a friend is another matter.
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Where did you buy yours from in the US?
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Not decided yet... Memory management is far too aggressive. The rest of EMUI I can live with at the moment. It's very hard to ignore the amazing battery, screen and camera. I came from a note 8 and it was a close run thing between the mate and the note. Time will tell!
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I'm wondering if memory management is a phone issue or an android pie issue. I have seen others complaining about this with other phone brands.
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Now you've had the Mate 20 Pro for a while, taking into account the camera, battery and overall experience. Would you recommend this phone to friends and would you buy the phone again yourself?
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I'm exactly in this boat. After my 3rd defective device I opted for a refund.
Today I looked at the Google pixel 3xl and the 1+6T the oxygen os is great far nicer than EMUI. But for some reason I kept getting drawn back to the Mate 20 Pro. The camera and battery life are something else.
Man I'm torn.
i love my mate 20 pro it is a great phone. there seems to be a whole lot of negativity about it on here but i have had no problems even with the dreaded lg screen lol. yes i would buy it again.
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I'm exactly in this boat. After my 3rd defective device I opted for a refund.
Today I looked at the Google pixel 3xl and the 1+6T the oxygen os is great far nicer than EMUI. But for some reason I kept getting drawn back to the Mate 20 Pro. The camera and battery life are something else.
Man I'm torn.
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why not give it another try? my concern is how long huawei will support the device for. They have no official time frame for firmware and security updates. At least you have 3 years with a pixel.
Yeah looking forward on mate 30. Like the others that never had any single issue.. This phone is great in any aspect of everyday usage. Might buy another mate but let see how huawei would stand after the nonsense banning of their other services
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Where did you buy yours from in the US?
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I bought mine off eBay. If I had to do it again I'd use wonda mobile. They'll actually check if it's a boe panel for you before they ship and they handle warranty. You'd have to ship to China but that's better than ZERO support from even the best eBay sellers. Huawei doesn't do international service so your sol here in the US.
Amazing phone.
I have had great experience! Nice battery life is the best perk no use in having the hardware to do things if the battery won't last! Also have a second one I bought for the wife and she's an iPhone user and didn't like it. If anyone is interested send me a personal message
I know for sure, I would buy it again, it has given me a great service
My only nitpick with this device is the gesture control, so I'm back to 3 button mode. The native Pie gestures work brilliantly, I don't get why Huawei broke it. That's not a deal breaker for me. It's the best phone I've ever used, better than the pixel or note. I'm unashamedly a huge fan of pure Google Android/ asop and use Nokia 7 plus as my second phone, but nothing comes close to my experience with the Mate 20 pro.
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Not decided yet... Memory management is far too aggressive. The rest of EMUI I can live with at the moment. It's very hard to ignore the amazing battery, screen and camera. I came from a note 8 and it was a close run thing between the mate and the note. Time will tell!
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You can change that in the battery settings for running apps. Just let the big apps run in the background like games and they won't close. It's all about choice.
All my apps stay open all the time unless i've bloced them.
I wouldn't buy Huawei again, but I would recommend it.
The note 9 is the same as the mate, except with less battery life, slower charging, worse camera, and same aggressive app management unless you tweak it yourself.
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I wouldn't buy Huawei again, but I would recommend it.
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why would you not buy Huawei again?
No.
Because of green tint, emui, how notifications are handled, and lack of customization options.
I've been on Samsungs since the S2, so this was quite a change for me, so at first I didn't like the general UI side of things (especially the AOD compared to Samsung's is pretty basic), but I have to say its grown on me.
Speed/fluidity etc on the hardware wide of things are excellent
Fingerprint detection can be random at best, but I'm amazed at the speed and reliability of the face recognition, especially when its dark
Also amazed at the battery life
Shame there's no SD slot. Would be much easier to just take all my music etc from my S7 if it had one. No problem as internal storage isn't an issue, but I'd have preferred an SD slot all the same.
Biggest gripe for me is the notch, or should I say the lack of statusbar icon space.... If you set to "hide" the notch, I would rather there be an option to drop the icons down a line so that a full row of statusbar icons can be seen (I'd rather lose 4-5mm of the screen and gain a full statusbar)
Notch aside, yes, I would definitely recommend, but now I've finally made the plunge and broken away from Samsung after all these years, I think I'd probably go for whatever the current OnePlus offering is in 2 years time to see what thats like!
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You can change that in the battery settings for running apps. Just let the big apps run in the background like games and they won't close. It's all about choice.
All my apps stay open all the time unless i've bloced them.
I wouldn't buy Huawei again, but I would recommend it.
The note 9 is the same as the mate, except with less battery life, slower charging, worse camera, and same aggressive app management unless you tweak it yourself.
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I've already changed those settings and they've made little difference. Perhaps I need to wipe it and start again (but to be fair, all I've really done is install nova and some Google apps).
Greetings to Pixel 6 owners from Ukraine!!
I was a happy Pixel 4a owner for some time, but battery life upset me. The battery replacement didn't help, so I switched to a mid-range Realme.
I am missing the Pixel experience and looking forward to rejoining the Pixel family. Pixels have never officially sold in my country, and since the war started, it's become even harder to find one on sale.
Luckily, the local retailer has brand-new Pixel 6 and Pixel 5a for a reasonable price (~$600 and ~$400 with taxes included), especially considering how our local currency is losing its value each day.
Would you say it's safe to buy a Pixel 6 right now? I've seen many articles about different bugs with the Pixel 6 family... I like the design, and the hardware seems to be future-proof. On the other hand, it looks like the Pixel 5a has better battery life, is lighter (I like that about my 4a), and is more affordable. What would you recommend?
Best,
Andrii
I've had my P6 for 7 months now and I'm still super disappointed. There are constant issues with touch events not registering, apps dying suddenly, UI locking up until I lock-unlock the screen a couple of times, fingerprint reader deciding to stop accepting my fingerprint until i restart. It's been by far the worst experience, and I've been on Android exclusively since the G1. To call this a flagship phone is a cruel joke
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constant issues with touch events not registering, apps dying suddenly, UI locking up until I lock-unlock the screen a couple of times, fingerprint reader deciding to stop accepting my fingerprint
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Jeez!.. I am so sorry to read that
What ever you do.
Stay away from the Pizel 7.
The Pizel 7 sux.
JetVoz said:
Greetings to Pixel 6 owners from Ukraine!!
I was a happy Pixel 4a owner for some time, but battery life upset me. The battery replacement didn't help, so I switched to a mid-range Realme.
I am missing the Pixel experience and looking forward to rejoining the Pixel family. Pixels have never officially sold in my country, and since the war started, it's become even harder to find one on sale.
Luckily, the local retailer has brand-new Pixel 6 and Pixel 5a for a reasonable price (~$600 and ~$400 with taxes included), especially considering how our local currency is losing its value each day.
Would you say it's safe to buy a Pixel 6 right now? I've seen many articles about different bugs with the Pixel 6 family... I like the design, and the hardware seems to be future-proof. On the other hand, it looks like the Pixel 5a has better battery life, is lighter (I like that about my 4a), and is more affordable. What would you recommend?
Best,
Andrii
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Greetings, i hope you and your family are ok and that nightmare end soon. I have my pixel 6 for about 2 months, and sincerely haven't had the bunch of bugs that people complain, no reboots, no freezes, maybe a couple of times an app has closed, and besides with Android 13 feels faster than 12, its really stable. The majority of bugs was only on early firmwares l guess. Phone been working great for me, fast, smooth and it's one of the best camera on the (phone) market, so i would say don't worry about bugs and get the phone.
Pixel 5a it's a good phone but with the pixel 6, you get 90hz screen, better camera, future proof (in theory +1 android version support) more ram.
So all it's up to you and your budget, forget about Pixel 6 being buggy as a factor in your decision.
I have the Pixel 6 now since 6 months. Except the fingerprint problem, which was fixed in the June update, I had no issues with the mobile. One time some software problems, but these I fixed by deleting the data from Google Play Services.
Overall, a very good experience for me.
Cheers
Tom
vandyman said:
Pizel 7
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I thought it is not on sale yet
snake218 said:
ith Android 13 feels faster than 12, its really stable
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Is Android 13 already available for Pixel 6 uses? Or are you talking about beta?
Android 13 is in its last beta phase, rollout will begin in about a month.
Got mine since 2 months, absolutely 0 issues at all, whether on 12 or 13 beta. Great battery life, amazing software experience.
Only complaint goes to the fingerprint scanner being a bit slow.
See this thread:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/is-the-pixel-6-reliable-now.4473305/
Overall I'm very happy with my Pixel 6. I have not had the bug problems other people have commented on, it's been very reliable for me.
The *only* warning I would give you about this phone, and it's a big one, is the fingerprint sensor. It absolutely sucks for me, always has. It's bad enough for me to consider trading it in for a Pixel 7 in October. Never had a problem with the fingerprint sensor on the back of the phone, but this under the screen thing is crap. At least on Pixel 6 (and, I suspect, Pro).
Honestly, if it were me.....I'd wait on the Pixel 7 unless you like unlocking your phone with your PIN most of the time. You've got a 4a and while the battery may suck, at least you're still getting updates every month. I'd wait 2 more months and get the 7 along with whatever free goodie they give for early orders (and it better not be another Buds A!).
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You've got a 4a and while the battery may suck, at least you're still getting updates every month.
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man... the battery life on my P4A was so horrible that I switched to Realme.
However, last weekend, I enrolled my P4A in a beta program, maybe the Android 13 will improve the battery life.
Guys in the 4A thread also advise me to try some Magisk+LSposed(Zyrgist) stuff. I haven't investigated this yet, would you say it's worth trying?
Android 13 has improved most things. The fingerprint reader now works 70% of the time for me. But it has not fixed the awful modem. I still get significantly lower signal than I did with my Pixel 3 in the same areas. When I work from home (and am thus on wifi) i really like the P6. Then I go out into the world and struggle to get data and use apps (streaming music/podcasts, store/restaurant apps, etc.). I will be replacing the P6 with a 7 or S22 in October. One way or another, I only need to keep this phone three more months.
Hope you and your family are safe. I am using Pixel 6 since a month. I have not faced any issues which other people have mentioned. The finger print scanner is sometimes slow in detection but i never felt it a deal breaker, especially since the last update.
If you really love camera the most in a mobile, then I will suggest you to go for it. Pixel 6 camera makes up for any buggy experience (which is not really a lot now).
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If you really love camera the most in a mobile, then I will suggest you to go for it.
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My P4A camera is good enough for me. I can't say it is among the most important things for me on a phone. The interface and user experience are.
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The finger print scanner is sometimes slow in detection
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How do you say it works compared to the one I have on my Realme? Here's a 20-sec video
It seems like they ironed out the bugs since I got it. I had some around the beginning of the year but haven't noticed any for a few months
Just wait for de OnePlus 10T to release
I know nobody from OnePlus gives a damn anymore and I'm just here ranting to no one. But I just need to express my anger somewhere.
I'm a proud owner of the OnePlus One, part of the first bunch of invites, served me for 4 years and still works to this day, the battery is just a bit dead. Then I bought he 5T which is in my opinion one of the best phones ever made for my purposes. I don't do photos, I'm an IT admin that just needs a pocket PC that has plenty of utilities available and the 5T had everything i need.
After 5 years of service the 5T even though it is still working, just dies on me at 25% probably because of the 3rd party battery and also has general slowness and gets stuck sometimes but overall it has a metal body, headphone jack, read ceramic fingerprint and ACTUAL OxygenOS 10.0.1
I literally just opened the box of the 10T and I find myself with a brick of plastic that apparently from what I've seen in the videos it doesn't even withstand water (which the 5T does veeeery well even if not officially rated) that doesn't have an headphone jack.
Started messing with it and i found myself in a situation that made me start thinking if i should send it back or not. Here's a brief list:
I cannot unlock the phone unless i first double tap and then the fingerprint sensor is available while with the 5T i can literally touch the rear ceramic sensor and it instantly unlocks while turned off, which increases significantly the unlock time and pisses me off even further.
The bottom navigation buttons are not customizable like they where with 10.0.1, I set the square button to lock the phone with a long press, now i cannot do it since it instead opens split screen app that I NEVER use.
The Oneplus shelf is now available from a top scroll down on the status bar ( WHAT THE F***??????) and instead of the shelf now we have F****** Google Discovery page that you cannot even disable if you want to and from what I've seen some people handled to hide with an app made for Oppo's ColorOS.
The pattern lock on the lockscreen is way too high, i understand the sensor is at the bottom but there are literally 5cm available where only the emergency contact button is (not even at the middle of the gap which triggers my OCD) I have big hands but still have to reach the top and it's hella annoying.
For some reason it is now illegal to have circle app icons since you cannot choose that shape, but there is some weird ass other shape, go figure
Settings app got completely butchered, i can't find anything and, for instance i still didn't find the parallel apps and pocket mode and why the hell are the icons and fonts so big in there, what is the purpose??
Why are all Google Apps picking up the wallpaper color and changing their theme, it looks like garbage, I just want it black i tried every way and unticked the option but still doesnt work they are all pink-reddish It's disgusting, why am i not allowed to set it black??
Where is the advanced power menu option??? I want to be able to select the boot to recovery and boot to bootloader option not just the lame poweroff and reboot
If you go to the task manager, you press "close all" the phone decides which apps to close to "have optimal performance". ***** i clicked close all to actually close all, if i wanted you to decide what to close I'd have clicked that... This is pure idiotism. It even trolls you because you click it and closes everything except the current opened app and reopens that one....
Where are the ROMs ??? The list of devices on the site stops at the 9 pro https://www.oneplus.com/support/softwareupgrade and then there is the Nord series. I want the Official ROM zip.
What's funny is that my best friend bought one too and when it arrived 2 days ago he found that the power brick had the type C connector broken inside.
Now I'm sitting here thinking if i should pack it and send it back.
This is disappointing af. I need good specs and easy root with stock android, am I asking too much here ?
Both Android OS (since Pie) and phones (Samsung at least) have taken a dive from 2019.
I'm still running stock Note 10+'s one on 9 the other 10. I see nothing new I like. I absolutely demand expandable storage and good SOT. I'm set for another 2-3+ years.
Meh, give it das boot and find something that fulfills its mission for you.
Lots of older models including some that are new, unused. My last N10+ I bought was one of those. Unlike a used phone the factory sealed ones will be loaded with the OS version at time of manufacture. If you hate 11 and especially 12 as much as me, it's a no brainer. My N10+'s will likely never be upgraded... they run very well as is. Anything from Pie up is reasonably secure unless you do something stupid.
We feel your OnePlus pain since they and most OEM's have been trending downward! Not a good sign of things to come....
Return would be one of your options....
Cheers
The advanced boot menu and the original version bootloader of oneplus 5 is the best for advanced user.
My oneplus 5 is still working (battery is replaced once) but the price of oneplus 10t is very attractive.
LuisCarlosHK said:
The advanced boot menu and the original version bootloader of oneplus 5 is the best for advanced user.
My oneplus 5 is still working (battery is replaced once) but the price of oneplus 10t is very attractive.
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That's ColorOS for you. If you really want pure OOS (11 and below), get a 9 pro/8 Pro/8T
I feel your pain. This ColorOS/Oxygen rom totally sucks. But I'm going to keep mine because there is no such specification on the market for this price (Snapdragon 8+ Gen, 16GB RAM, 256GB storage for $650). I hope someone will create custom roms (KOSP, YAAP) in the future.
Bought and used the 10 Pro for about 2 months and sold it.
Bought the Nothing Phone 1 and used it for 1 month....will probably pack it and sell it off soon
Been using the 10T for 3 days......can't comment yet
But overall i'll keep my 9 Pro and as soon as i get pissed with the 10T, i'll just move my sim back to the 9 Pro and i'm good to go.
Suggest you look at the 9 Pro as it's considered a year old device and it's way cheaper compared to when it first launched. Also there are loads of custom ROM for the 9 Pro now.
So i saw several reviewers mention OP10T 's performance is worse compared to other sd 8+ gen 1 phones like IQOO9T etc. Some speculate it's due to OnePlus locking cpu frequencies. Any OP10T owner that runs benchmarks, plays heavy games can comment on this?
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So i saw several reviewers mention OP10T 's performance is worse compared to other sd 8+ gen 1 phones like IQOO9T etc. Some speculate it's due to OnePlus locking cpu frequencies. Any OP10T owner that runs benchmarks, plays heavy games can comment on this?
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It's well-known by this point that OnePlus throttles the SoC since the 888. If you want full performance, you have to toggle performance mode in battery settings. Keep in mind that doing so will have a massive battery penalty as it stops the little cores from down clocking.
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It's well-known by this point that OnePlus throttles the SoC since the 888. If you want full performance, you have to toggle performance mode in battery settings. Keep in mind that doing so will have a massive battery penalty as it stops the little cores from down clocking.
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Ah gotcha i haven't used a one plus device in 6 years, my 10T will arrive in two days. I'm fine with the battery penalty since if i am gaming i usually have a charger around and that ridiculous charging speed makes up for it. I also have a pelteir cooler if performance mode makes it heat up. Looks like a good custom kernel would go a long for this device.
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I know nobody from OnePlus gives a damn anymore and I'm just here ranting to no one. But I just need to express my anger somewhere.
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This is disappointing af. I need good specs and easy root with stock android, am I asking too much here ?
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You have summed this up for me so well. You are not alone. I still consider the 5T to be the best overall phone OnePlus has ever created. At the time, it beat all the flagships for 50% of their price. Easy root and dev friendly. Bulletproof too. Mine still works but my son lost it. It was HEAVY daily use for 5+ years until then.
I moved on to the OP7TP5GMcLaren (after trying the 8 pro and sending it back). It was slightly annoying for bootloader because I had to submit to oneplus to get the unlock code (before they found the bypass) but still worked. No custom roms but it was actually a decent experience and still handles games and dev tasks quite well.
Now I'm holding my 10T and I'm not sure if I should wait or send it back and wait. This fake oxygenOS ain't it. IF I return this phone, I will pick up the Redmi k50 (gaming or ultra) to hold me over. They have good specs at similar pricing but I will take a hit on band coverage. Which might be worth it at this point. I want to at least give this a week but so far, nothing has blown me away. I do like how much it feels like the 5T in hand. But it does not feel as premium as the 7TP/8P. I like the flat screen. I'm trying to love the things I like to be patient.
I don't blame oneplus for all of it, Android in general is still pretty buggy for being on version 12 - but I'm not heading to iOS so I'm here.
I might unlock bootloader, root and just skip otas forever. Breaking Netflix/drm is not ideal.
I will pitch in on OP10T crowdfunding for devs to get their hands on phones to work with
There is a "fast unlock". Seems to work well. Sleep->unlock by fingerprint on the scanner
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There is a "fast unlock". Seems to work well. Sleep->unlock by fingerprint on the scanner
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I tried that but it doesn't help much.
I still didn't return it but I'm about to throw it on the wall every time I tap "close all" in the task manager since it doesn't actually kill all apps but decides by itself that the current app I'm using has to be still opened.
Plus i can't live without notification LED and didn't find a single app that emulates it decently. Only one that does something is "Always on edge" but works randomly and more half the times doesn't work at all
They don't care at lie at any moment.
As someone with a 8T im scared. I don't know what to do anymore, my 8T is fine for now but then what? I don't see any MSM tools for the 10 Pro or the 10T. Go with a pixel? I'm actually just considering a iPhone for the first time since the 3GS. Been with android for over 10 years, i'm tired.
I appreciate the candor of OP @seanwlk , and can agree that the industry has become very hostile to the types of people like us who frequent XDA and mod our phones. I also place at the top of my list the requirement to have an easy unlocked bootloader to root.
That being said, I can't help but sense a little over the top reactions from everyone in the forums as well as YouTubers complaining about OnePlus. Full disclosure I have been using OnePlus since the 3T, but I am not a 1+ employee or shill, and I too was frustrated initially and tried out the Pixel 6 before returning it and coming back to 1+. The alternative besides 1+ and Pixel is the Sony Xperia. But the Xperia is way overpriced and overheats, plus is a hassle to root. But it is a great looking phone, and has expandable storage and a headphone jack.
Reasons I returned to OnePlus and rejected Pixel (caveat: both being equal in terms of bootloader unlock and rooting support)
Gestures. Screen off media controls, flashlight, three finger screenshot, ect....have tried Motorola, Essential, HTC, Sony.....OnePlus does it the best IMO. Didn't realize how much I used these and would miss them
Only Android to have an alert slider (and yes I know the 10T doesn't, but they recently revealed they don't plan on keeping it permanently removed. Dumb move IMO to remove it at all, but at least they will be bring it back). This is a big reason I went with the 10 Pro
Hands down, the best fast charging, both wired and wireless. Didn't realize how much it
Other small tweaks, like the native ability to hide status bar icons, the OnePlus font, layout of settings.
Also, I personally don't understand the hate for the influences of ColorOS. I find the larger UI is easy to press and navigate, especially from the notification shade when out and about in sunlight. I don't mind the "new" OOS. But again, to each their own.
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I literally just opened the box of the 10T and I find myself with a brick of plastic that apparently from what I've seen in the videos it doesn't even withstand water
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That's why I went with a 10 Pro: Metal and IP68, plus it has the alert slider which the 10T doesn't.
that doesn't have an headphone jack.
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Most phone companies started doing this 5 years ago after Apple started the insanity, not a OnePlus unique complaint
I cannot unlock the phone unless i first double tap and then the fingerprint sensor is available while with the 5T i can literally touch the rear ceramic sensor and it instantly unlocks while turned off, which increases significantly the unlock time and pisses me off even further.
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Super easy fix I used awhile back --> Oxygen AOD Mod
The bottom navigation buttons are not customizable like they where with 10.0.1, I set the square button to lock the phone with a long press, now i cannot do it since it instead opens split screen app that I NEVER use.
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Hmm I didn't realize people still preferred buttons instead of gestures (which I prefer). To each their own
The Oneplus shelf is now available from a top scroll down on the status bar ( WHAT THE F***??????)
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Totally can disable this in the settings....
and instead of the shelf now we have F****** Google Discovery page that you cannot even disable if you want to and from what I've seen some people handled to hide with an app made for Oppo's ColorOS.
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I am sure someone has a Magisk module that disables this. Also, why not just use the GOAT launcher Nova?
For some reason it is now illegal to have circle app icons since you cannot choose that shape, but there is some weird ass other shape, go figure
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Nova solves all of this.....lets you use Legacy icons and disable the "Reshape" BS that Android now does to icons.
[*]The pattern lock on the lockscreen is way too high, i understand the sensor is at the bottom but there are literally 5cm available where only the emergency contact button is (not even at the middle of the gap which triggers my OCD) I have big hands but still have to reach the top and it's hella annoying.
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Yes, the placement of fingerprint reader on the 1+9 I agree it's a little lower than I would have liked, but it's not that bad, right? I just decided to get used to it since I couldn't change it. Didn't ever really bother me. And now I use the 10 Pro which is placed higher
Why are all Google Apps picking up the wallpaper color and changing their theme, it looks like garbage, I just want it black i tried every way and unticked the option but still doesnt work they are all pink-reddish It's disgusting, why am i not allowed to set it black??
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I was under the impression this is a toggleable option to turn on/off
Where are the ROMs ??? The list of devices on the site stops at the 9 pro https://www.oneplus.com/support/softwareupgrade and then there is the Nord series. I want the Official ROM zip.
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Agree it is dumb they don't have the OTAs available. Hopefully they're just late to post? OxygenUpdater is my current workaround.
I need good specs
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The specs we have in flagships are so overpowered for most tasks IMO. Unless someone is a major mobile gamer.....but that is not me at all, nor most I suspect
easy root with stock android
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How "stock"? Because I used the Pixel 6 for a week and was seriously underwhelmed with the lack of features....especially not having screen off gestures and such.....stock Android is lacking IMO
Plus i can't live without notification LED and didn't find a single app that emulates it decently. Only one that does something is "Always on edge" but works randomly and more half the times doesn't work at all
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Another super easy fix if a notification dot is mandatory feature to you --> aodNotify
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I might unlock bootloader, root and just skip otas forever. Breaking Netflix/drm is not ideal.
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Netflix breaking due to bootloader unlock or root is extremely easy to remedy, a TON of forum posts with Zygisk and USNF....
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As someone with a 8T im scared. I don't know what to do anymore, my 8T is fine for now but then what? I don't see any MSM tools for the 10 Pro or the 10T. Go with a pixel? I'm actually just considering a iPhone for the first time since the 3GS. Been with android for over 10 years, i'm tired.
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Scared of what?
Not sure why you mention MSM tools and then immediately suggest Pixel, as it's Tensor chip is Exynos which means no MSM type tool since that is Qualcomm only
What makes you want to go to iPhone?
Also, the Exynos modem in the Pixel 6 was terrible with reception for both WiFi and cellular. Another big reason I returned it besides the ones I mentioned
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Netflix breaking due to bootloader unlock or root is extremely easy to remedy, a TON of forum posts with Zygisk and USNF....
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I tried that. I tried a modified usnf also. I didn't have any success but that really isn't the deal breaker for me anyway. It was lack of msm, fake OxygenOS (which could be remedied in time with real msm for devs), and the general navigation and features of this "OxygenOS". The charging was great. Nothing else stands out enough. Never Settle indeed.
I'm waiting for OnePlus to stop playing their "we emailed the return label" game. It appears to be something that happens to many people when they want to return a phone. The return label never arrives to email and some get harassed into keeping their phone after it misses the return window. I have a few more days left. Each day they say it will arrive within 24 hours
Was looking at it but seen some downsides. I did enjoy the slider but could live without it. The fast charging and battery seem pretty good. but if anyone owns it can you tell me what you think of it
Personally I really like it, I have never used a oneplus phone before, and the UI is smooth. The battery life is pretty great, and I personally have around 50-60% by the time I go to bed, and it usually goes down by 2-3% overnight. The charging is also insane, as I wake up and it charges before im ready to leave for the day. (20-30 mins) furthermore, it handles gaming really well, and it never really overheats. It is great for emulators, even though it throttles performance slightly compared to other s8+ gen 1 phones. The only possible downside that I see is the probability of few/no custom roms. That was a dissapointment but I can live with it, especially if oos 13 releases soon. All of this is just my opinion however, so maybe consider other people's as well. PS: I am not a big camera person, and if you are, you may want to look elsewhere.
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Personally I really like it, I have never used a oneplus phone before, and the UI is smooth. The battery life is pretty great, and I personally have around 50-60% by the time I go to bed, and it usually goes down by 2-3% overnight. The charging is also insane, as I wake up and it charges before im ready to leave for the day. (20-30 mins) furthermore, it handles gaming really well, and it never really overheats. It is great for emulators, even though it throttles performance slightly compared to other s8+ gen 1 phones. The only possible downside that I see is the probability of few/no custom roms. That was a dissapointment but I can live with it, especially if oos 13 releases soon. All of this is just my opinion however, so maybe consider other people's as well. PS: I am not a big camera person, and if you are, you may want to look elsewhere.
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yeah and maybe roms will be soon? its still a newer phone. how is the screen? is it good
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yeah and maybe roms will be soon? its still a newer phone. how is the screen? is it good
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For the roms I hope so, but it may be unlikely without proper recovery tools from what I have read. The screen is 1080p but I find it looks good, Id rather have battery from 1080p anyway. It feels responsive usually, however it sometimes limits refresh rate for games, however that can technically be bypassed with root.
good phone im using it
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For the roms I hope so, but it may be unlikely without proper recovery tools from what I have read. The screen is 1080p but I find it looks good, Id rather have battery from 1080p anyway. It feels responsive usually, however it sometimes limits refresh rate for games, however that can technically be bypassed with root.
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you don't even need to root, I'm pretty sure you can download the SetEdit app from the playstore and change the peak refreshrate to force 120hz.
The phone is good. Other than the custom ROMs maybe not being here, overall it's a good phone. At a good price.
This is an excellent performing device running Stock OS!
Cheers
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you don't even need to root, I'm pretty sure you can download the SetEdit app from the playstore and change the peak refreshrate to force 120hz.
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How good is the camera for shots if I have a tripod or take city scape shots etc?
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How good is the camera for shots if I have a tripod or take city scape shots etc?
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Oneplus literally spent everything to try to make this the best performing low price phone on the market, so the place they saved the most money is in the camera department. Honestly, I think my Oneplus 7/7T Pro from 2019 takes better photos because it actually has a good 16mp ultrawide and a 12mp telephoto lens, while the 10T has a 8mp ultrawide and a crappy 2mp macro(booooo, NO TELEPHOTO WHYYYY). However, the 50mp main on the 10T can be alright, a bit better than the 48mp main on the 7 Pro. This will be fine for the average user, but if you really want a flagship killer grade camera, this ain't it.
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Oneplus literally spent everything to try to make this the best performing low price phone on the market, so the place they saved the most money is in the camera department. Honestly, I think my Oneplus 7/7T Pro from 2019 takes better photos because it actually has a good 16mp ultrawide and a 12mp telephoto lens, while the 10T has a 8mp ultrawide and a crappy 2mp macro(booooo, NO TELEPHOTO WHYYYY). However, the 50mp main on the 10T can be alright, a bit better than the 48mp main on the 7 Pro. This will be fine for the average user, but if you really want a flagship killer grade camera, this ain't it.
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Yeah The 10 Pro is a good option too.
How is Oxygen OS on yours?
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Yeah The 10 Pro is a good option too.
How is Oxygen OS on yours?
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I actually bought the Chinese version which means it runs ColorOS 13 (same thing as OxygenOS 13). It's ok ig? I actually kinda want to revert to coloros 12.1 b/c of the APK limitation in Android 13. Otherwise the UI is smooth and interactive, so I'd say its on par with One UI 5.
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I actually bought the Chinese version which means it runs ColorOS 13 (same thing as OxygenOS 13). It's ok ig? I actually kinda want to revert to coloros 12.1 b/c of the APK limitation in Android 13. Otherwise the UI is smooth and interactive, so I'd say its on par with One UI 5.
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Are you talking about the APK restriction for sideloaded apps that would want to use the accessibility API? What side loaded apps would you use that would require this access?
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Are you talking about the APK restriction for sideloaded apps that would want to use the accessibility API? What side loaded apps would you use that would require this access?
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Modded apps. Really important for me but probably not for most people.
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The phone is good. Other than the custom ROMs maybe not being here, overall it's a good phone. At a good price.
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Why do you think the custom roms won't be here? The 10t seems more like the old school oneplus that I remember. Cheaper phone packed with the latest fastest chipset. I thought it would maybe bring some previous oneplus users back.
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Why do you think the custom roms won't be here? The 10t seems more like the old school oneplus that I remember. Cheaper phone packed with the latest fastest chipset. I thought it would maybe bring some previous oneplus users back.
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Apparently the msm tool to recover a soft bricked phone requires a username and password. So if you get in a bad bootloop and can't get back to bootloader, you may not be able to recover on your own. The EDL mode is what msm uses and is almost always going to fix a messed up flash.
Unless that changes, there may not be rom devs to build roms due to that risk. Though who knows what the future holds. It is still early in this devices life.
Depending on how important you find this:
- Camera is average. Unfortunate but not a deal breaker for me
- The alert slider is gone. I'm missing it but no deal breaker either
- The OS is no longer real Oxygen, which was loved by many, but now ColorOS. No true Android experience.
- No wireless charging. Idc about this.
I was planning on getting the Pixel 7, which is better imo. BUT I had a great deal where I got 350 euros off by trading in my old device. Then suddenly it was a no brainer. If you can find a decent deal, I would say the device is worth it. If you would pay full price, I would look into other devices as well. The whole selling point of Oneplus is gone.
That said, I'm loving:
- Battery, mostly the charging speed
- Performance and smoothness
- The 120Hz screen. If you had 120Hz before, you CANNOT go back. It would feel horrible!
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Depending on how important you find this:
- Camera is average. Unfortunate but not a deal breaker for me
- The alert slider is gone. I'm missing it but no deal breaker either
- The OS is no longer real Oxygen, which was loved by many, but now ColorOS. No true Android experience.
- No wireless charging. Idc about this.
I was planning on getting the Pixel 7, which is better imo. BUT I had a great deal where I got 350 euros off by trading in my old device. Then suddenly it was a no brainer. If you can find a decent deal, I would say the device is worth it. If you would pay full price, I would look into other devices as well. The whole selling point of Oneplus is gone.
That said, I'm loving:
- Battery, mostly the charging speed
- Performance and smoothness
- The 120Hz screen. If you had 120Hz before, you CANNOT go back. It would feel horrible!
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yeah its 100$ off on bestbuy right now
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Was looking at it but seen some downsides. I did enjoy the slider but could live without it. The fast charging and battery seem pretty good. but if anyone owns it can you tell me what you think of it
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So I've used the pixel 6 the pixel for a OnePlus 8 pro the Galaxy S10 and now the OnePlus 10t OnePlus has definitely been the smoothest operating system out of any Android phone I've ever used but this is easily the cheapest and most powerful phone I've ever bought into still cheaper than my OnePlus 8 pro is even though it's the April is a couple years old now and the performance on this thing is insane only downside is reading and modding is very limited at the moment which in time I'm pretty sure will open up more so if you're going for performance and usability I would definitely say It's a Good device if you're going for modding and rooting you should probably go to the pixel phones
Went to T-Mobile yesterday to buy the OP10T, but the store manager talked me into the Pixel 7. Should have gotten the OnePlus. Sharp edges and the fingerprint scanner works half the time. Going too see if they'll waive the restock fee.