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The OnePlus X looks great, has good specs and a very good price. But I'm reading lots and lots of issues relating to both hardware and software. I don't want to order one and then find it's a buggy piece of junk. I'm looking for a smooth, fast and reliable phone because I'm fed up with my laggy Moto G (1st gen). I've a low tolerance for annoying bugs/faults, and don't want to be disappointed if I buy a OPX
So the question is.. are you happy with your OPX, or do you regret buying it?
I'm happy with it, but you should know that X stands for Experimental. Oneplus has made a lot of choices there that may not fit the lambda customer. As a developer that like to flash roms and kernel, i'm happy!
But there are a lot of issues currently, and the performance are not that good (OxygenOS rom is pretty young). That will be fixed eventually but it will likely take some months...
No regrets here. Mainly because I don't consider software issues as a real problem. It's fixable. Anytime, anywhere. OnePlus even tolerant to rooting/unlocking. I've tried most expensive phones, like Xperia Z5, S6, and all of them had hardware issues. Which is most unlikely with OPX. But in your "low tolerance for annoying bugs/faults" case, I'd wait for a month or so until couple more OTAs out and bought OPX. In case you are inpatient, chose another phone.
It's an amazing phone, however, like others have said. Oxygen OS, is pretty much in a nightly stage. There's some lag that shouldn't exist on a phone with an 801 & 3GB of ram. The camera software needs some optimization. But these are all software issues that can be corrected. Once we have custom ROMs the true potential of the phone will be unleashed.
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Only wish it had more memory. I can't use the MicroSD expansion because I need the slot for dual SIM.
wouldn't want to go back to my previous phone (xiaomi mi4)
Absolutely no,
Had a Oneplus One and a Samsung Galaxy S5
and the X is a whole different feeling, its just so stylish and I havent noticed any lags or performance issues at all.
Hi. I sold my Samsung Note3 because it was getting too big for use. I started to look for phone with 5 inch display, with amoled technology, with 3 gigs of ram and micro sd slot, and then OnePlus X came to show. And i dont regret of buying that device. It is slightly worse than Note3, i mean battery and camera, allso performance, but hey, that phone costs half price of new Note3. And that is something right?
No. I dont regret, and im happy that we will receive android 6.0 - note3 will not... that was also one of reasons of buying new phone.
The OnePlus X is a beautiful phone, feels and looks like a premium handset and the screen is amazing.
However, I am shamed to admit that mine has been sitting in the box in my drawer pretty much since I received it on 11th November. Disappointed.
Everytime I get it out for a play there is some sort of micro stutter or a bit of lag that annoys me that just doesn't occur on my HTC One M8 although the specs are virtually identical. I am just holding out for the custom ROMs that are on the way and hope they improve the whole experience because I can't see me giving up my HTC otherwise .
Seems there are happy users amongst the people with complaints, which is good to see. I like the OPX, I think I might just give it a try. I'll definitely be using a custom ROM once something stable is developed
I love the phone, but am in a weird situation.
I am in the minority where I had a chinese bootloader unlock screen...these phones are unable to flash twrp. The ability to flash custom roms is why I want this phone and what would make it great, but I am not able to do that. Hopefully a fix will be found.
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Hi all,
I can't say I regret my OPX.
But I must admit my Nexus 5 was just perfect for :
- stability (stock non rooted),
- lag (simple: zero lag, anywhere, any app)
- games (such as FPSE + OpenGL -> zero lag with N5, lag and framerate pb with OPX)
- Bluetooth chipset: best compatibility with N5 (lag issue for OPX + Madcatz C.T.R.L.r but not with OPX + MOGA pocket)
- ROM (But as some said before, OPX and OxygenOS are still young. I'm still waiting for an AOSP or a CM to get better memory/CPU management)
According to design, it's a very subjective part... Let's say N5 is sober, and OPX seems to be more valuable (...iPhone-ish style...)
So, I'm not disappointed of OPX, but I still keep my N5 near me: if CM or AOSP don't fix lag/stability issues, I think I'll go back to N5. (...even if it has a poor battery life!)
Wait & see so!
[EDIT]
Made my choice: bought nano sim -> micro sim adaptater to go back to my perfect Nexus 5.
I'll wait until CM stable release, to see if stability/memory/CPU/bluetooth issues are solved... But I'm pretty sure nothing will ever equal a stock Nexus...
I'm actually really disappointed in the software aspect. The phone's touch is pretty bad after the 2.1.3 update of OxygenOS. The keyboard typing is extremely ****! I can't even type properly without having to repeatedly fix and retype the words. They need to fix this issue as its major. Instead of fixing bugs with updates... They just create new ones.
Kind of, just not happy with Sim slot
Well, I couldn't be more satisfied with this device.
Just one problem, they should've given a separate slot for memory card.
Earlier I used to use separate sims for Data and Calling, but now I have to move to single sim, and realized my operator's 3G network is very bad.
(P.S. Vodafone, Bangalore India)
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Fulbring said:
I'm actually really disappointed in the software aspect. The phone's touch is pretty bad after the 2.1.3 update of OxygenOS. The keyboard typing is extremely ****! I can't even type properly without having to repeatedly fix and retype the words. They need to fix this issue as its major. Instead of fixing bugs with updates... They just create new ones.
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I just upgraded, and after reading your comment, I realized it's true.
Facing some problem while typing. I think you might be right, I am also facing this problem.
No regret. I came from S3 mini so it's a new world for me
Also seems I'm a little bit lucky because no problem with latest update.
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No regret. I came from S3 mini so it's a new world for me
Also seems I'm a little bit lucky because no problem with latest update.
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Love it, no regrets. Replaced an s4.
Oxygen os, not so much, though.
Looks like it has also good development potential.
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My moto x pure is my daily driver. My opx is just sitting in the box debating on sending it back because of the enormous amount of complaints and issues being reported on this forum and OPs forum.
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Amazon took back my Moto x (2013) because it rebooted anytime it felt so and Motorola after sale care services failed to fix it (I am not sure they even care to try to fix it but that's another story).
When I bought the OPX I was fully aware that :
Camera was going to be bad
Autonomy was not going to be a strength
Storage was 16 go
It was not the most powerful newly released device
Still I went for it for many reason :
the size. My previous smartphone, 4,7" already felt a bit too big in my hands. I couldn't even imagine going for the 5,4" of the Moto Play and I didn't want the Moto X 2nd gen because the device is already a year old and I am pretty sure that if I were to have a problem with it i'd have the same kind of warranty than with my previous phone. I'd prefer my phone fixed than refunded.
I wanted a nice user experience, since Motorola provided an awesome one on Moto X. And OnePlus seemed to have put just what I was looking for in the OPX.
amoled screen
enough power for most of the things I like to do on a smartphone
headphone sound is pretty good
I didn't care about the design. I don't even like it it is nothing as ergonomic as my previous phone. And I don't care glass makes it look premium and stuff. I use cases.. But I admit the phone is eye-candy,
Since I have it I found out camera is really really bad, worse than my Moto X. So that you know. I won't blame anyone on that since as I said I knew it and anyway I have a nice canon camera that I 'd like to use
I don't use the sd card. I am happy with the 16Go so far so I don't know if it is really buggy or not but anyway OP seems to work on every bug people report so I am not worried.
So the only bug I found so far is that awful lag when you switch to and back from airplane / flight mode. It's a matter of seconds. 5? 7 maybe? But still really annoying.
I didn't update to 2.1.3 os version because too many people complained about it so everything is smooth on my phone. Even in the games I play. But I don't play heavy ones like asphalt. Though I tried hearthstone and it ran as smoothly as on my Moto X.
joho5 said:
I love the phone, but am in a weird situation.
I am in the minority where I had a chinese bootloader unlock screen...these phones are unable to flash twrp. The ability to flash custom roms is why I want this phone and what would make it great, but I am not able to do that. Hopefully a fix will be found.
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Is your phone running Hydrogen? Have you tried flashing stock OxygenOS - apparently you can do it over stock HydrogenOS without root etc; my Chinese OPX came with Oxygen preflashed and I was able to unlock the bootloader and install TWRP no worries.
I'm loving my OnePlus X, but it's not perfect. This is my first non-htc Android phone and I'm finding it better than my old m7 J One in many ways, but the camera is subpar and the battery life isn't great even with the dark theme.
I really want to like this phone, it has a great reputation for speed and the removal battery sounds awesome.
However, a quick scan trough the forum on this site and Android Central I can say that there are way more posts dedicated to failures including bootlooping and general compent issues than I've ever seen on a HTC phone.
I really want to get this phone for the removable battery but would love to see testimonials of LG G5 users who have had no issues but also comments from people who have had issues...
Are the rumours of low build quality from LG exaggerated?
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Well some of the issues are exagerated in my opinion
I have a H850 version bought like 4 months ago and I am more then happy with it
Software is pretty much stable and hardware is quite good
Sure LG could have got a few things better polished but if you want my advise, go for it!
I think it has to do with where you buy the phone - it sure looks like american versions have way more issues than european ones.
Mine is the european one and I haven't had any problems since I got the phone in May. Just be sure you can live without custom roms ... it's beginning to look like we'll be stuck on (more or less modified) stock roms forever.
I'd recommend the G5 to anybody that uses their phones with stock, but if you want customisation and proper roms/themes you should look elsewhere.
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Well some of the issues are exagerated in my opinion
I have a H850 version bought like 4 months ago and I am more then happy with it
Software is pretty much stable and hardware is quite good
Sure LG could have got a few things better polished but if you want my advise, go for it!
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Well I would be buying mine from my carrier so would is the h850 version common or just for unlocked models?
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I think it has to do with where you buy the phone - it sure looks like american versions have way more issues than european ones.
Mine is the european one and I haven't had any problems since I got the phone in May. Just be sure you can live without custom roms ... it's beginning to look like we'll be stuck on (more or less modified) stock roms forever.
I'd recommend the G5 to anybody that uses their phones with stock, but if you want customisation and proper roms/themes you should look elsewhere.
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Oh well I'm in Canada so I guess there is a chance I might get one if the bad versions...
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Look at my thread.
Absolutely exaggerated.
My LG G5 has bootlooping i think is real
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Well I would be buying mine from my carrier so would is the h850 version common or just for unlocked models?
Oh well I'm in Canada so I guess there is a chance I might get one if the bad versions...
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For me, I'm in Vancouver and got my G5 from Rogers about 2 months ago. Luckily, I haven't had any of the issues some are having like bootlooping issues. However, I prefer to stay stock with my G5 and I've been very happy with it. Battery life can be subpar but I have a spare battery with me anyways so no big deal. Overall, it's a great phone with a great camera (which is why I bought it). Hopefully, u have no issues yourself if you decide to get it too.
Before I bought my phone LG G5 H860. I read a lot of reviews and mostly had a bad reviews about it. But still I decided to buy it. When I first held it it feels like premium not like some of the reviews that it feels cheap. Haha. Coming from an LG G2 and was really a big leap for me. I gave my G2 to my mother and she was happy. About the performance, even it's just a stock ROM it performs great. And I also can live without root and custom ROM's. Battery is kinda low for a 2800mAh but what can I say, it's removable and can easily be swapped. . Camera is also one of the best. The lack of autofocus in the front cam and wide angle like the V20 is just the missing features. But overall G5 is a great premium phone. I'll use my G5 until it breaks. Not planning on upgrading yearly. Haha. Therefore G5 is the best for me. I was thinking of V20 but it's bigger and a bit bulky for me. G2 and G5 have the width size but G5 is a bit longer. :victory:. That's all.
mwake4goten said:
I really want to like this phone, it has a great reputation for speed and the removal battery sounds awesome.
However, a quick scan trough the forum on this site and Android Central I can say that there are way more posts dedicated to failures including bootlooping and general compent issues than I've ever seen on a HTC phone.
I really want to get this phone for the removable battery but would love to see testimonials of LG G5 users who have had no issues but also comments from people who have had issues...
Are the rumours of low build quality from LG exaggerated?
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Just remember... As with everything... Way more people will take the time to complain/moan about issues in life than those who have nothing to complain about. Ie.. very rarely does someone take the time to actually say "hey, i have no issues, phone works great".
I personally like a lot of others, have had zero issues with my G5. Whether that be down to it being European and an H850 compared to any American variant.. or just luck... Who knows..
Iv'e been using the G5 for over 4 months now and it couldn't be much better, the build quality ia top notch i dont have any gaps what so ever and it feels like a premium device, the feeling in the hand is simply great.
This device is blazing fast, the first thing you will notice is how fast and lag free this phone is, the battery is more than enough it lasts about a day and a half, the camera is best in class.
I personally prefer LCD IPS panels cuz it has a more natural colors than amoled, and the G5 display is very bright in direct sunlight
Overall the G5 Is the best flagship in 2016 in my opinion
I definitely think that the build issues are exaggerated. I have the ls992 variant. Not a single problem. The above poster is correct in saying that people are more likely to post something negative than positive. That goes for just about anything. If a Dr prescribes you a new medication, and you make the mistake of Googling it - you may just end up with the belief that all your limbs will turn black and fall off, your spouse will leave you, etc etc. Lol. In other words, the most perfect product will not be immune to those who make negative claims. Either real, or imagined.
I agree that there are those who got lucky and have 0 issues with the device, but I have had samsung devices, HTC devices, and now with the 6P huawei devices and none of them had the glaring problems the G5 has had. Those manufacturers usually are pretty consistent when it comes to build quality. Granted, Samsung is under fire right now for exploding Note 7s lol, but I am pretty sure the look and feel of each device is pretty much going to be the same experience for everyone. Things such as GPS being a problem, or the display having discoloration would be a rare occurrence with them. If LG had consistency in regards to build quality I think the complaints would halve. It feels like some phones were built properly with care, and others were slapped together.
My experience with the phone has been mixed; GPS was terrible until I sent it into LG, battery life sucks I can never get more than 12-14 hours on a charge, performance is awesome, the front and rear cameras are both awesome and take great photos, and I have had little issue with the daily operation of the device. However, I did have overheating issues, the GPS would not lock, and the paint finish is bubbling near the bottom of the device. The first two were remedied by sending it in. They want me to send it in again for the third time because of the issue with the finish, but I have already replaced the backing myself just to avoid further issues with their repair center. All and all, it's hard to say if it has been a good or bad experience. There are too many things on both sides. If LG had better build quality, but crappy battery life I'd feel confident enough to say the experience was mostly good, but I can't. I have had many devices over the years and this reigns true. I even have two devices right now, this G5 and the Nexus 6P. I have had 0 issues with my 6P. It feels great, runs great, and looks great.
Look at the attachment I provided, that's not a rare occurrence either. Lots of people had similar issues with the paint finish. I remember a few device reviewers having to get a replacement device to review in order to avoid showing that issue on camera.
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I agree that there are those who got lucky and have 0 issues with the device, but I have had samsung devices, HTC devices, and now with the 6P huawei devices and none of them had the glaring problems the G5 has had. Those manufacturers usually are pretty consistent when it comes to build quality. Granted, Samsung is under fire right now for exploding Note 7s lol, but I am pretty sure the look and feel of each device is pretty much going to be the same experience for everyone. Things such as GPS being a problem, or the display having discoloration would be a rare occurrence with them. If LG had consistency in regards to build quality I think the complaints would halve. It feels like some phones were built properly with care, and others were slapped together.
My experience with the phone has been mixed; GPS was terrible until I sent it into LG, battery life sucks I can never get more than 12-14 hours on a charge, performance is awesome, the front and rear cameras are both awesome and take great photos, and I have had little issue with the daily operation of the device. However, I did have overheating issues, the GPS would not lock, and the paint finish is bubbling near the bottom of the device. The first two were remedied by sending it in. They want me to send it in again for the third time because of the issue with the finish, but I have already replaced the backing myself just to avoid further issues with their repair center. All and all, it's hard to say if it has been a good or bad experience. There are too many things on both sides. If LG had better build quality, but crappy battery life I'd feel confident enough to say the experience was mostly good, but I can't. I have had many devices over the years and this reigns true. I even have two devices right now, this G5 and the Nexus 6P. I have had 0 issues with my 6P. It feels great, runs great, and looks great.
Look at the attachment I provided, that's not a rare occurrence either. Lots of people had similar issues with the paint finish. I remember a few device reviewers having to get a replacement device to review in order to avoid showing that issue on camera.
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Yeah it's a shame because it seems to have everything I would like. But im seeing the same things regarding build quality... I know there are also lots of happy users too but but I've never seen HTC users complaining in droves about bootloop issues, paint chipping, light bleed, etc...
I used to own a Sony Xperia Pro phone and its low memory was not fit for purpose and our made me regret buying Sony products again.
Hard one for me...I hear lots of good things though about LG G5. The fact that it's fast and snappy and camera is one of the best of the year.
mwake4goten said:
Yeah it's a shame because it seems to have everything I would like. But im seeing the same things regarding build quality... I know there are also lots of happy users too but but I've never seen HTC users complaining in droves about bootloop issues, paint chipping, light bleed, etc...
I used to own a Sony Xperia Pro phone and its low memory was not fit for purpose and our made me regret buying Sony products again.
Hard one for me...I hear lots of good things though about LG G5. The fact that it's fast and snappy and camera is one of the best of the year.
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I'm tired of people that think that every other big brand other than LG doesn't have any build issues..
All of them have issues! Even HTC, Samsung and Apple.
Never heard of build issues on HTC? Here you go. Took me exactly one search to find each.
HTC bootloop:
http://forums.androidcentral.com/htc-one-m9/560133-my-stock-m9-stuck-bootloop-can-t-boot-recovery-help-please.html
HTC paint chipping:
https://m.reddit.com/r/htcone/comments/2ab178/chipping_on_gunmetal_m8/
HTC light bleeding:
https://www.google.co.il/amp/s/amp.reddit.com/r/htc/comments/4if7x4/backlight_bleeding_htc_10/?client=ms-android-om-lge
I have had issues with HTC devices in the past, sent them into HTC, and have received a FIXED device. I would have no issues sending my HTC device to their repair center. Yes, no manufacturer is perfect and there are bound to have problems too. It just isn't as pronounced and as common.
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I'm tired of people that think that every other big brand other than LG doesn't have any build issues..
All of them have issues! Even HTC, Samsung and Apple.
Never heard of build issues on HTC? Here you go. Took me exactly one search to find each.
HTC bootloop:
http://forums.androidcentral.com/ht...bootloop-can-t-boot-recovery-help-please.html
HTC paint chipping:
https://m.reddit.com/r/htcone/comments/2ab178/chipping_on_gunmetal_m8/
HTC light bleeding:
https://www.google.co.il/amp/s/amp....ght_bleeding_htc_10/?client=ms-android-om-lge
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Lol I walked into that one! I didn't mean LG is the only one, I meant that LG seems to jump out to me as one brand that I've noticed where I see a lot of repair issues in the forums more so than the other brands.... But it may be just by chance that I'm bumping into these bad reports more so than the other brands...
I'm so glad this thread exist!! I just bought this phone from a carrier here in the us 3 days ago. Everything seems good except Bluetooth. Bluetooth is so trash. If I put the phone in my pocket or literally have it more than 1 foot away things get choppy and digital. On 3 headsets. Should I exchange it while I'm still in my 14 days or is this to be expected?
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I'm so glad this thread exist!! I just bought this phone from a carrier here in the us 3 days ago. Everything seems good except Bluetooth. Bluetooth is so trash. If I put the phone in my pocket or literally have it more than 1 foot away things get choppy and digital. On 3 headsets. Should I exchange it while I'm still in my 14 days or is this to be expected?
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Better to exchanged it. And try other handsets if it will be the same.
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Better to exchanged it. And try other handsets if it will be the same.
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Thanks. I really hope this isn't an inherent flaw. Because otherwise I like the handset. Best camera I've used.
i wanted to buy umidigiz pro but i did not have 250$ so i decided to ask you about z pro.is it worthy to buy(just camera lens)or i should buy umi z?and an other question:do umi z or z pro have a good software?i asked about it and i got different answers! plz answer me with your experience.ty
I have the Z, having had several HTC including the 10, and the Samsung Note Edge I have a good set to compare with.
Its plain Android as far as the software goes and with latest ROM update seems perfectly stable ,not had any of the issues you read about, I'd put most down to the user to be fair as plain android does not hold your hand like the HTC, Samsung or other skins/mods.
Camera gets a lot of comment but see UMI forums with so great examples and I can get great shots that are just as good as any from my other phones , yes the dual focus sometimes needs to be worked with , but so long as you use it correctly its a good camera , if you want to point and shoot switch the focus mode to phase only and you would be fine , my experience anyway.
Speed is great, don't see any lag or slow down in games etc.
Battery seems great, everything left on I get a full day with moderate to heavy use. No issues here.
Screen is good , clear and sharp, colours,seem correct, all can be adjusted anyway.
Sound fine, perhaps headphone a little quiet compared to others but great quality .
East to root, update etc, xposed works fine, mods to plain android seem to work as expected.
All in all a good phone , no idea if pro camera is better , I suspect for some situations it will be, but only if used correctly .
Look inn by forward to nougat update ,just to add some nice bits as I loved that on my note edge,
Just buy it , value for price is amazing , build quality is great ..Good phone
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I have the Z, having had several HTC including the 10, and the Samsung Note Edge I have a good set to compare with.
Its plain Android as far as the software goes and with latest ROM update seems perfectly stable ,not had any of the issues you read about, I'd put most down to the user to be fair as plain android does not hold your hand like the HTC, Samsung or other skins/mods.
Camera gets a lot of comment but see UMI forums with so great examples and I can get great shots that are just as good as any from my other phones , yes the dual focus sometimes needs to be worked with , but so long as you use it correctly its a good camera , if you want to point and shoot switch the focus mode to phase only and you would be fine , my experience anyway.
Speed is great, don't see any lag or slow down in games etc.
Battery seems great, everything left on I get a full day with moderate to heavy use. No issues here.
Screen is good , clear and sharp, colours,seem correct, all can be adjusted anyway.
Sound fine, perhaps headphone a little quiet compared to others but great quality .
East to root, update etc, xposed works fine, mods to plain android seem to work as expected.
All in all a good phone , no idea if pro camera is better , I suspect for some situations it will be, but only if used correctly .
Look inn by forward to nougat update ,just to add some nice bits as I loved that on my note edge,
Just buy it , value for price is amazing , build quality is great ..Good phone
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ty for your help and just an other question:will this phone have hardware issue in future because it has no service man here because its not a known brand?
Well its a £200 phone , guess it can be serviced but seems reliable so far, umi will service if you send back to China I guess , of course supplier will provide 1 year normally , but if local techs can service depends on issue . of course out of warrantee costs for major brand phones is often more than the cost of this phone
pou_gh2 said:
i wanted to buy umidigiz pro but i did not have 250$ so i decided to ask you about z pro.is it worthy to buy(just camera lens)or i should buy umi z?and an other question:do umi z or z pro have a good software?i asked about it and i got different answers! plz answer me with your experience.ty
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Do yourself a favor and don't buy this phone. Wireless and Wifi connection is bad, gyroscope sensor is bugged, camera is not as good as it could be, scroll feeling is laggy, temperature issues.
Add 100 $ and buy a mi5s or something similar, but don't buy this piece of electronic trash. I will sell mine as fast as i can.
selling mine too. huge disappointment. buggy as hell. it was not worth the time I had to spend with flasing it over an over which is their universal answer to any kind of issues.
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Do yourself a favor and don't buy this phone. Wireless and Wifi connection is bad, gyroscope sensor is bugged, camera is not as good as it could be, scroll feeling is laggy, temperature issues.
Add 100 $ and buy a mi5s or something similar, but don't buy this piece of electronic trash. I will sell mine as fast as i can.
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Don't really seem to have Wifi connection issues here. Use gyroscope works well. They updated the software to fix it maybe u didn't have it installed. I can't complain about camera. It's a cheap phone don't expect it to be top notch here. But for the cheap price it does hell beat lots of other devices in the same price range.
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Having a very hard time deciding whether to buy this phone or get a simple Redmi Note 4X.
Seeing how little real world performance difference there appears to be between the two is kind of turning me off to this phone because of it's seemingly numerous issues. I don't plan on doing a whole lot of heavy tasks/gaming per say so I'd imagine the SD 625 could handle my needs very well. I plan on flashing custom roms and not keeping stock.
Things I like about the Le Max 2:
Screen
Camera - Fairly important to me and I understand the 4x's camera is awful
Performance - Would be nice to have but doesn't seem completely necessary
Things I dislike about the Le Max 2/Concerns:
Dead fingerprint readers galore? I've read about flashing FW but the threads seem to have mixed results. - Added a poll to this thread to possibly figure out what my chances of a bad/dead fp reader are.
Seen two reports of data on the 3g 1900mhz PCS band not working - very important to me
Have to carry a USB C to 3.5mm adapter around - not a big deal, just slightly annoying.
Battery Life is average/below average
Camera bump - easily scratch lens
Bezel around the screen isn't my favorite
Cost of the 4X is around ~$210 CAD, le Max 2 is ~$270 CAD. Open to all thoughts, and suggestions.
I would only go for RN4X if you truly are a "battery freak" haha. It's not a bad device, but despite the better battery, it loses in everything to LM2.
Also, since you mentioned that you'll be using Custom ROM, keep in mind that you'll have even worse camera on RN4X.
LM2 has it flaws like average battery and problematic FP sensor, but I still believe it's an amazing option. To be honest, I bought mine last week from Gearbest and I'm still waiting for it to arrive.
If you don't mind smaller screen size, Zuk Z2, Mi5/Mi5s and Honor 8 are also good options and you'll have top specs and good battery.
I just bought and sold note 4x and bought le max 2. Note 4x even though has a lower spec . cpu it feels more polished and fluid . For note 4x there are 2 camera sensors used in the production. Sony one is okayish ,but samsung one is plain bad. I have a 10 mo daughter, i sold it just because i use the camera alot.
Le max 2 battery is an issue though... Get ready to carry round a powerbank. If you have specific questions let me know.
Le Max 2 battery is not that bad it's pretty good consider it got 2k screen. Battery charge really fast maybe need to recharge one time per day. It's just a little big and bulky if you don't like big size phone and FP is problematic, you will be lucky if its not dead. Still for 64Gb/4Gb ram less than $200 it's steal.
well i can get 4 hrs sot, which is bad compared to note 4x 's min 7 hrs. If you are not in to VR there is no point of 2K screen... in that case Le pro 3 becomes more attractive ...
Yes it has SD820, and min4 gb ram but the software is so sluggish it feels way less powerful... Yes you can flash a custom 7.1.2 rom and it will fly but your camera and battery life gets worse...
The fact that there are basically no good ROMs for this phablet should scare you a lot more than whether the fingerprint scanner works or not.
Official ROMs are rife with unneeded software and their UI is reminiscent of iOS which I personally loathe, while open source ROMs struggle with many features, like speakerphone mode (which basically doesn't work), camera functions (no 4K, broken flash, broken focusing), lags and very low recording volume.
Also, like mentioned above, this phone has a very weak battery for its QHD screen.
God, fingerprint sensor. The most useless and insecure feature of any smartphone.
Here's my objective review. Earlier in the year I sold off my OnePlus 3T in anticipation of the OnePlus 5. I set out to look for placeholder phone that I could use in the meantime, a best bang for the buck phone. For $196, I couldn't find a better than the Le Max 2. After further research, I became weary about buying it, but after a proper assessment, it appeared that the fingerprint reader issue wasn't as widespread problem. The threads in question are old, don't get that many new complaints or replies anymore for that matter, usually the same group of people looking for a solution. Also, people keep confusing the actual hardware defect, with the fact that you need to use one of the newer modems (23S or the recommended 419D) for the fingerprint reader to function properly on many of custom ROMs.
I personally bought two of the US variant, the gray 4GB/64GB X829 from Banggood. As expected, the fingerprint readers on both phones worked, and continue to do so. The fingerprint reader is not fast as the one found on the OnePlus 3T, but I've yet to see another phone that has one that's even as fast. You'll be on the home screen within a second of placing your finger on the reader. As far as the accuracy goes, it's actually been really accurate, but I mostly attribute that to the fact that the case I use helps in aligning my finger dead center on the reader. Speaking of case, I bought a black one from banggood that's similar to the Spigen Rugged Armor that I love, and it complements the black bezels of the Le Max 2, so I'm over that small annoyance. Check the picture out.
I wasn't a fan of the stock ROM, but it's usable, but if you want a reliable Marshmallow alternative, I recommend Small EUI, but the Nougat ROMs have come far along, especially this last week, to where I have flashed them on both my Le Max 2's and are now my daily drivers. In that case, I would recommend Resurrection Remix.
Performance was always great, similar to my old OnePlus 3 in the early days, but the battery life on the Le Max 2 has improved greatly on Resurrection Remix I get 5 hours and 30 minutes of screen on time with moderate use. I don't play any android games, but I do watch plenty of video podcasts on YouTube, do a lot of school research on chrome for my essays, use Facebook, Instagram, Spotify, and Tidal often. Check the pictures.
Objectivity aside..
I would recommend this phone to you, especially if you like to flash things and tinker. In fact, I like this phone so much, that I wouldn't mind skipping the OnePlus 5 this time around, and I'm close to adding the Le Max 2 to the list of best phone's I've ever used, joining the OnePlus One, OnePlus 3, OnePlus 3T, because of its price to performance ratio, XDA community, and feature set. The IR blaster comes in handy, the QHD display is great, I actually prefer it to the one on the LG V20 because the one I had for a little while had some wicked light bleeding because of the ticker display, the camera is actually pretty good too better than the one on the Le Pro3 which I also had for a little while last year. I wouldn't record in 4K without a gimbal or tripod though, but I did the same with my OnePlus 3T.
Anything less than snapdragon 820 is garbage. This phone is cold, fast, and cheap. Any issue can be fixed with a new Rom
unrafa said:
Anything less than snapdragon 820 is garbage. This phone is cold, fast, and cheap. Any issue can be fixed with a new Rom
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Fix camera (basically totally broken with LOS/RR) and speakerphone mode (broken with LOS) with a new ROM, huh? Two paramount features of any smartphone.
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Fix camera (basically totally broken with LOS/RR) and speakerphone mode (broken with LOS) with a new ROM, huh? Two paramount features of any smartphone.
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Dude, tone it down a little, you're worse than my little sister in exaggerating things... The camera works, it's no where near "totally broken" or unusable... Also, Lineage OS is not the end all be all as far as ROMs go with this device, so let's not paint a picture here with broad strokes. There are plenty of well supported ROMs for the Le Max 2, and progress is being made. I now get 5 hours and 30 minutes of screen on time on RR with 15% to spare. I couldn't say the same two weeks ago...
People that complaining this and that get off the tread and sold the thing its your choice. Everything work well except the FP, many of custom roms if you like flashing them. So nothing to bitter about.
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There are plenty of well supported ROMs for the Le Max 2, and progress is being made.
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There are basically four ROMs for this phone: two stock, Chinese and Indian, and two open source, RR and LOS. Other ROMs are for people who don't care about the security and safety of their bank accounts and private lives. I wonder how on earth one can trust a ROM created by a random John Doe from God knows where. Will you trust a ROM created specifically by me? Well, then, why do you advocate for the similar ROMs distributed via xda-dev forums?
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There are basically four ROMs for this phone: two stock, Chinese and Indian, and two open source, RR and LOS. Other ROMs are for people who don't care about the security and safety of their bank accounts and private lives. I wonder how on earth one can trust a ROM created by a random John Doe from God knows where. Will you trust a ROM created specifically by me? Well, then, why do you advocate for the similar ROMs distributed via xda-dev forums?
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Most of the "other Roms" you mentioned are from the same dev of RR. So, if you don't trust them, you can't trust RR.
Also, if you follow your logic, only the Chinese and Indian ROMs are trustable, cause both RR and LOS were made by "a random John Doe from God knows where".
Stop being so paranoic. Every one can discover everything about your life these days. It's not a ROM that will change that.
Peace.:angel:
"Everyone" cannot access my bank account or siphon my information behind my back.
LeTV/RR/LOS all have a reputation to keep and they are represented by real people with real accounts/identities - conversely random Doe Johns here at xda-dev may disappear without a trace in an instant. But I guess you may give me your banking account information if you're so confident, no? Then what the fecking fock are you talking about?
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"Everyone" cannot access my bank account or siphon my information behind my back.
LeTV/RR/LOS all have a reputation to keep and they are represented by real people with real accounts/identities - conversely random Doe Johns here at xda-dev may disappear without a trace in an instant. But I guess you may give me your banking account information if you're so confident, no? Then what the fecking fock are you talking about?
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You do raise a good point, and I can't argue against that concern. It's been years since I heard anyone else raise that concern, but I do wonder just how feasible it is to do today and if there have been any cases of this kind of theft within the XDA community.
I wrote this on someone's YouTube video on problems that are coming on pixl3, xl.
I'm really considering canceling my order of the XL.
From what I've seen and read so far on pixel 3, it's scary. This is coming from note7 user who kept the phone for years. I love note 9 but I don't want it, or any other Sammy, or lg or another phone. I want Google, seams like a perfect fit, and something new. I've been with Samsung for a long time. Apple is way too expensive and after these pixel issues I'd love to own XS but I'm just not an ios guy.
These Google problems are scary because I did place an order of $1275 cnd. I was ok with notch and 4gb ram but now seeing all this crap, do I really want to deal with all that? I feel Ike google did not give a sh.. One of those students instead of studying for an exam they just said fcuk it, I'll go with what I know...
Sucks, truly sucks. I wanted the phone so bad.
Anyone else in the same boat? Thinking of canceling or worried about buying an expensive phone and then regretting it.
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I wrote this on someone's YouTube video on problems that are coming on pixl3, xl.
I'm really considering canceling my order of the XL.
From what I've seen and read so far on pixel 3, it's scary. This is coming from note7 user who kept the phone for years. I love note 9 but I don't want it, or any other Sammy, or lg or another phone. I want Google, seams like a perfect fit, and something new. I've been with Samsung for a long time. Apple is way too expensive and after these pixel issues I'd love to own XS but I'm just not an ios guy.
These Google problems are scary because I did place an order of $1275 cnd. I was ok with notch and 4gb ram but now seeing all this crap, do I really want to deal with all that? I feel Ike google did not give a sh.. One of those students instead of studying for an exam they just said fcuk it, I'll go with what I know...
Sucks, truly sucks. I wanted the phone so bad.
Anyone else in the same boat? Thinking of canceling or worried about buying an expensive phone and then regretting it.
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I was a bit worried about regretting it after spending a lot. Considered cancelling my order a few times. Went with the Pixel 3 after 3 years of a Nexus 5X. I know this isn't the experience everyone has had but I love it. I haven't had any of the issues people have been talking about or noticed any kind of lag or hiccup yet. I honestly think that in a few months all the negative comments and concerns will blow over and it will be regarded as one of the best phones available but maybe I'm wrong.
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I wrote this on someone's YouTube video on problems that are coming on pixl3, xl.
I'm really considering canceling my order of the XL.
From what I've seen and read so far on pixel 3, it's scary. This is coming from note7 user who kept the phone for years. I love note 9 but I don't want it, or any other Sammy, or lg or another phone. I want Google, seams like a perfect fit, and something new. I've been with Samsung for a long time. Apple is way too expensive and after these pixel issues I'd love to own XS but I'm just not an ios guy.
These Google problems are scary because I did place an order of $1275 cnd. I was ok with notch and 4gb ram but now seeing all this crap, do I really want to deal with all that? I feel Ike google did not give a sh.. One of those students instead of studying for an exam they just said fcuk it, I'll go with what I know...
Sucks, truly sucks. I wanted the phone so bad.
Anyone else in the same boat? Thinking of canceling or worried about buying an expensive phone and then regretting it.
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You're brought up two issues:
1. If you're wanting to know if you'll be happy using a Pixel after using Samsung for so long, the answer depends on how much you value all the extra software features that are built into Samsung devices. If you love them and use them all the time, the Pixel will disappoint because it is bare bones Android. If you don't care about those features and just want a simple UI with fast updates, then you'll love the Pixel.
2. If you're wanting to know if these early "issues" are deal breakers, then it really comes down to hardware vs software. If the issues you are concerned about are hardware related, then there's nothing that can be done and you would be better served by a different device. If the issues you are concerned about are software related, then buy the phone with confidence. You may never see these issues because they don't affect everyone, and if you do, they will likely be fixed in the updates that Google pushes every month. So you won't even have to wait long.
Either way, life is too short to regret a phone purchase.
Thank you both for your input. Make me feel better.
My biggest and I mean the biggest concern with any phone is phone lag.
Pixel fits my bill.
I love s8 s9, etc but I'm okay with not having the best display, curve screen, no notch. I'm even okay rocking p3Xl even when if baseless s10 with In display finger print and camera comes out. I'll be okay. Because smooth experience is above it all. Ofc I'm basing my desision on p3, with wireless charging, water proving etc.. Stuff which phone already has. Took Google apple a while but they got there.
It's hard to pay $1275 for a phone and hear speakers sound different, speakers make vibration, lines on display but could be replacement, worranty work etc.
More importantly is software.
Apps getting shut down, glitches, ram management fiasco.
I started to think, well if p3 xl shuts down all apps to save ram and I find a way around it to keep apps running in the background and that will cause the phone to glitch or think more than that really takes me away from smooth Android experience. Ofc apps automatically closing and me have to restart Netflix or YouTube isn't a smooth experience either.
I don't care bout battery life, or memory space. I also don't play games. I'm worried bout basic options of use now being compromised.
May be I'm paranoid...
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I started to think, well if p3 xl shuts down all apps to save ram
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P3 is killing apps because Google sloppy optimization /buggy software not because of lack of RAM. P1 and P2 don't have these issues and all have 4GB.
The strongest recommendation I can think of is wait until Google gets it together. Google has a dubtious track of fixing bugs even on Pixel.
Yea, even I'm having thoughts of regretting to pre-order Pixel 3 64GB Clearly White, haven't received it yet tho. Indian users will get it after Oct 31st(official release date).
My concerns are that will it be worth it to spend Rs. 66k (approx 900 USD) for a phone when I can get OnePlus 6T for around Rs. 38k-40k (approx 530 USD) with better specs like 8GB RAM and 3700 mAh battery. Though I really like the way Pixel looks and it's software is also great with AI. And the camera is the best part.
BTW I'm jumping from a 5yr old Moto G to this so any new phone would feel great to me. Currently I get the option to cancel my Pixel 3 order. So I'll wait and see the 6T, then decide to cancel the order or not.
OkayGK said:
Thank you both for your input. Make me feel better.
My biggest and I mean the biggest concern with any phone is phone lag.
Pixel fits my bill.
I love s8 s9, etc but I'm okay with not having the best display, curve screen, no notch. I'm even okay rocking p3Xl even when if baseless s10 with In display finger print and camera comes out. I'll be okay. Because smooth experience is above it all. Ofc I'm basing my desision on p3, with wireless charging, water proving etc.. Stuff which phone already has. Took Google apple a while but they got there.
It's hard to pay $1275 for a phone and hear speakers sound different, speakers make vibration, lines on display but could be replacement, worranty work etc.
More importantly is software.
Apps getting shut down, glitches, ram management fiasco.
I started to think, well if p3 xl shuts down all apps to save ram and I find a way around it to keep apps running in the background and that will cause the phone to glitch or think more than that really takes me away from smooth Android experience. Ofc apps automatically closing and me have to restart Netflix or YouTube isn't a smooth experience either.
I don't care bout battery life, or memory space. I also don't play games. I'm worried bout basic options of use now being compromised.
May be I'm paranoid...
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This is the pixel 3 forum for the smaller version. If you want feedback about the 3XL, please check the 3XL forum.
I did not realize there were two separate forums for the phone.
I canceled. It's still the phone I want, but approaching the end of 2018 this is not an $800 phone. It'll probably be priced correctly come Thanksgiving.
Been using mine since the 18th. I too, was a bit worried, however I've not experienced any of the issues.. I'm surprised really.
After using the P1 & P2, I know that they'll squash these issues in coming updates, by December's update all of these little bugs will probably be worked out. Just like with the P2.
I'm sticking with it. I love it. I didn't think it would be a big upgrade over the P2, but it really is IMO.
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Been using mine since the 18th. I too, was a bit worried, however I've not experienced any of the issues.. I'm surprised really.
After using the P1 & P2, I know that they'll squash these issues in coming updates, by December's update all of these little bugs will probably be worked out. Just like with the P2.
I'm sticking with it. I love it. I didn't think it would be a big upgrade over the P2, but it really is IMO.
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Great to hear. So far I haven't cancelled
Just another data point - I got the Pixel 3, came over from Samsung and LG phones (S7 and V30), and I'm happier with this phone than any phone I've previously owned (maybe a bit of hyperbole, but I am very impressed with the phone!). I haven't had any of the problems others have mentioned, and the UI and smoothness of operation are wonderful. I've only snapped a handful of photos so far, but the results are amazing to me. Battery life hasn't been as great as the V30, but it still gets me through a full day and evening, so I'm cool with that.
I was constantly frustrated with waiting for Samsung or LG to release updates, so I'm eager to see how rapidly Google iterates.
I definitely wouldn't cancel.
I've had mine for a week, been back and forth a dozen times a day, got an rma, packed it up, unpacked, packed, unpacked, used for the weekend. Right this minute I'm thinking it goes back tomorrow, but the camera is almost worth keeping it.
My biggest thought is that any camera would blow me away coming from a oneplus 3, and the camera on the 6t might be plenty good enough.
The $50 pre-order credit helps, and it sounds like the 6t won't have wireless charging. My op3 port is almost worn out, have to hold it just right, so I'm wary of another phone without wireless.
I have a camping trip with my daughter in a couple weeks, so if I return, I'm not getting anything new in time for that,with the back orders on the pixel and the shipping time on the 6t, unless tmo has them on the shelf within a week of launch.
So now I'm thinking I'll keep it.
Another positive review for the Pixel 3. Coming from the Samsung S7, the Pixel is a big step up. Really like the minimalist, elegant look, smaller bezels, lightning responsiveness, feel in the hand, unbloated Android, great camera, first in line for updates, and Project Fi. I've had a couple of quirks with some features, but none of the issues getting so much attention. Battery life has significantly improved over the last week (adaptive power management?), and is much better than the S7 even with AOD and bluetooth on all the time. Easily the best phone I've owned by a wide margin. Understand people have different priorities and usage patterns, but I'd advise not bailing without trying it.