While really put off by the recent Samsungs, I still decide to change my S8 for a S10. On the S8 I had Bk Disabler + Plugin, but while searching on the Playstore I can't seem to find it, or any other trustworthy app.
I have enabled ADB, and now I'm searching for a local (on the smartphone, no-root package disabler like Package Disabler Pro or Bk Disabler but can't find them (or at least in the case of BK/Service Disabler, a no-root version).
Thanks.
This.
You have ADB and environment... What's the functionality are you looking for with the disabler app that you aren't getting when you disable (or uninstall but keep a copy of the APK with the --k switch) with the package manager from command line? If I know what's important to you maybe I can make a recommendation.
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You have ADB and environment... What's the functionality are you looking for with the disabler app that you aren't getting when you disable (or uninstall but keep a copy of the APK with the --k switch) with the package manager from command line? If I know what's important to you maybe I can make a recommendation.
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On the fly changes. Useful for troubleshooting.
L!V3_4_XC3SS said:
You have ADB and environment... What's the functionality are you looking for with the disabler app that you aren't getting when you disable (or uninstall but keep a copy of the APK with the --k switch) with the package manager from command line? If I know what's important to you maybe I can make a recommendation.
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I need an on the fly (as in a smartphone app) package disabler like BK disabler + plugin which I use to have on my S8. I don't like having to plug to adb, and have tedious command lines I don't have a (gui) visibility on.
But I haven't been able to find the same solution I used to have on my S8
blackhawk said:
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I'm not searching for a cloud but a "local" feature as in an app on the smartphone directly.
OgreTactic said:
I'm not searching for a cloud but a "local" feature as in an app on the smartphone directly.
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My version runs offline once activated.
Lol, I know I firewall block it
Anyone?
That's all folks... and a few more like I described.
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That's all folks... and a few more like I described.
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Thanks, but isn't there any working app like Pack Disabler Pro or BK Disabler? I need it badly since my new S10 battery is getting ruin in just 3 hours.
I heard about Shield/Alliance X, does it work well?
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Thanks, but isn't there any working app like Pack Disabler Pro or BK Disabler? I need it badly since my new S10 battery is getting ruin in just 3 hours
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Both of those have failed me repeatedly including the dreaded Android kernel has crashed pop up, twice with BK, that's really fun.
This one hasn't. The annual charge is a small price to pay for reliability. Supports up 3 devices. When I brought my second N10+ online it took 5 minutes or less to get PD MDM running.
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Both of those have failed me repeatedly including the dreaded Android kernel has crashed pop up, twice with BK, that's really fun.
This one hasn't. The annual charge is a small price to pay for reliability. Supports up 3 devices. When I brought my second N10+ online it took 5 minutes or less to get PD MDM running.
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By this one you mean Package Disabler or Alliance Shield?
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By this one you mean Package Disabler or Alliance Shield?
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Never used Alliance Shield.
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Hi All,
I love Greenify, I used it regularly on my phone.
Unfortunately, I got a new job and my work required me to install an MDM product, Mobiliron
It will not let me access my work information unless I uninstall greenify. It detects certain applications on their list. It's a really dumb implementation, but not much I can do about it.
Is there an alternate build that I could install that anyone has that is the same application but named something different that might hopefully not flag in their application blacklist?
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Hi All,
I love Greenify, I used it regularly on my phone.
Unfortunately, I got a new job and my work required me to install an MDM product, Mobiliron
It will not let me access my work information unless I uninstall greenify. It detects certain applications on their list. It's a really dumb implementation, but not much I can do about it.
Is there an alternate build that I could install that anyone has that is the same application but named something different that might hopefully not flag in their application blacklist?
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In case you have installed Xposed, try MinMinHide.
Thanks for the option, but I need a non root option unfortunately. Greenify works fine, but because it flags on an application blacklist it conflicts
For an Android 5.x device, you can use secondary user for your work app, which won't see the apps installed in the primary user.
jbstanford said:
Hi All,
I love Greenify, I used it regularly on my phone.
Unfortunately, I got a new job and my work required me to install an MDM product, Mobiliron
It will not let me access my work information unless I uninstall greenify. It detects certain applications on their list. It's a really dumb implementation, but not much I can do about it.
Is there an alternate build that I could install that anyone has that is the same application but named something different that might hopefully not flag in their application blacklist?
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Ine just found this here in the forums:
[APP][ROOT] Servicely - Replacement for Greenify [24 Apr 15]
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3091708
You must be rooted, but at least don't have Greenify installed.
oasisfeng said:
For an Android 5.x device, you can use secondary user for your work app, which won't see the apps installed in the primary user.
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Mmm...didn't know that.
Like Windows different users??
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jbstanford said:
Thanks for the option, but I need a non root option unfortunately. Greenify works fine, but because it flags on an application blacklist it conflicts
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PIRATA! said:
Ine just found this here in the forums:
[APP][ROOT] Servicely - Replacement for Greenify [24 Apr 15]
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3091708
You must be rooted, but at least don't have Greenify installed.
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Well, Servicely also requires root and thus is rather impracticable, I guess.
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Mmm...didn't know that.
Like Windows different users??
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Yes, you can set up different accounts for the same device.
Hi,
Like the G4 [I own for now] and I disabled most Verizon Apps. Possible with the G6? [I plan Getting]
Yes, this is built into android.
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Yes, this is built into android.
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That's not entirely true. You can NOT disable the "Mobile Hotspot" or "Voicemail" app.
Check posts 7 and 9 here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3614406
I got a new VS988 in, installed the Package Disabler app using the instructions for non rooted phones, it appears to work. I've disabled some Google, LG, and VZW stuff that I consider bloat and it seems like they've indeed been disabled. Messaging, Slacker Radio, and a few other items are on the System tab, so don't be afraid to check that area out for things to disable (but don't disable something if you don't understand what it is)
markfm said:
Check posts 7 and 9 here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3614406
I got a new VS988 in, installed the Package Disabler app using the instructions for non rooted phones, it appears to work. I've disabled some Google, LG, and VZW stuff that I consider bloat and it seems like they've indeed been disabled. Messaging, Slacker Radio, and a few other items are on the System tab, so don't be afraid to check that area out for things to disable (but don't disable something if you don't understand what it is)
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FWIW, on my VS988 Slacker and Messaging are under the regular apps, not system.
Gotta love non standardization ☺
I did pull in one system update, maybe something was shuffled.
http://cloud.tapatalk.com/s/5931f4cb2edb6/Capture%2B_2017-06-02-19-27-04.png?
Anyway, lacking root I ended up using the sd partition management app to carve off 24gb of sd as adopted storage, put in Adguard plus the combination of Yandex browser and Adguard Content Manager, and have Package Disabler. It isn't the same as root, but provides a bit more control.
I'd love to see a "Safe to remove" thread if anyone has one for the G6
Maybe look here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g6/help/bloatware-removing-t3639013/page5
I ended up going to BK Package Disabler. Install takes factory reset (to wipeout existing accounts, unless the ones you have can be removed on the fly) then loading that one app (giving it admin permission through adb).
BK is only a disabler, but does seem to work, lets you disable bloat. Long press on any given item and there's a pop-up so you can Google what an item is.
It warns you to reenable things before accepting a future OTA.
I've been removing bloatware that I see using `adb shell pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.the.app`. I think I may have removed "the wrong thing" because now I don't see the Battery setting in the settings list. I also don't see battery saver in the notification menu. There was a useful battery statistics page that showed what apps are using what percentage of the battery. I'd like to get that back.
Can anyone confirm what the package is that provides this functionality? I'll look at how to restore it (since I used the -k option I should be able to get it back).
Thank you.
There are dependencies. Can't recall all for that.
Maybe:
com.sec.android.sdhms
com.google.android.apps.turbo
You really need to know what you're uninstalling before you do it.
It's easier to use a Package Disabler if you want to experiment. It's possible to boot loop the device though if you go too nuts. Some of the "bloatware" just sits there using no resources until you need it and is in fact operationally useful.
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There are dependencies. Can't recall all for that.
Maybe:
com.sec.android.sdhms
com.google.android.apps.turbo
You really need to know what you're uninstalling before you do it.
It's easier to use a Package Disabler if you want to experiment. It's possible to boot loop the device though if you go too nuts. Some of the "bloatware" just sits there using no resources until you need it and is in fact operationally useful.
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It's been difficult to find a guide that specifically lists the operationally useful ones to keep. I can only judge them by name and remove based on that. I try to be conservative. But lack of reliable guidance is frustrating.
Googling leads to a ton of different lists of "bloatware", all of them completely wrong. So there's no way for me to know what to trust. I think it would be fantastic if you could provide a list.
I did `cmd package install-existing PACKAGE_NAME` for each of the 2 packages you listed, and it didn't install anything, I think. `pm list` doesn't show them after I run the commands.
Here is something that should be a little more helpful. I generated two lists:
pm list packages -u
pm list packages
I diffed the two and here are the packages that were in the first list but not the second (should represent packages I uninstalled via `adb shell pm uninstall`:
Code:
package:com.samsung.android.fmm
package:com.samsung.android.service.livedrawing
package:com.samsung.android.visionintelligence
package:com.samsung.android.app.clockpack
package:com.samsung.android.app.reminder
package:com.samsung.android.bixbyvision.framework
package:com.samsung.android.app.galaxyfinder
package:com.sec.android.app.samsungapps
package:com.samsung.android.app.notes.addons
package:com.samsung.android.forest
package:com.samsung.android.lool
package:com.samsung.android.app.contacts
package:com.samsung.android.game.gametools
package:com.sec.android.app.myfiles
package:com.samsung.android.bixby.agent.dummy
package:com.samsung.android.app.watchmanagerstub
package:com.sec.android.gallery3d
package:com.sec.android.app.clockpackage
package:com.samsung.android.messaging
package:com.samsung.systemui.bixby2
package:com.samsung.android.authfw
package:com.sec.android.daemonapp
package:com.samsung.android.scloud
package:com.samsung.android.app.dressroom
package:com.samsung.android.beaconmanager
package:com.samsung.android.aremoji
package:com.samsung.android.app.routines
package:com.samsung.storyservice
package:com.samsung.android.bixby.service
package:com.sec.android.mimage.avatarstickers
package:com.samsung.android.arzone
package:com.samsung.android.allshare.service.mediashare
package:com.samsung.android.samsungpassautofill
package:com.samsung.android.ardrawing
package:com.samsung.android.allshare.service.fileshare
package:com.samsung.android.bixby.wakeup
package:com.samsung.android.game.gamehome
package:com.samsung.android.samsungpass
package:com.samsung.android.bixby.agent
package:com.samsung.safetyinformation
package:com.samsung.android.video
package:com.samsung.android.sdk.handwriting
package:com.samsung.android.app.spage
package:com.samsung.android.svoiceime
package:com.samsung.android.calendar
package:com.samsung.app.highlightplayer
package:com.samsung.android.homemode
package:com.samsung.android.app.settings.bixby
package:com.sec.android.easyMover.Agent
If there's anything in here that should be restored (especially if they are related to this battery app issue), please let me know. Thanks again.
Nothing that stands out.
The names can be quit different from their actual function. Worse there can be seemingly unrelated dependencies that will fail if it's needed associated apk is disabled.
Many times the trail/error method is needed to figure out what all a apk or service does.
It takes some time. Each device and user needs are different so each device needs to be customized by the user to work right. One list does not fit all.
I have about 86 packages disabled, about 6 are available immediately by using a PD's interactive widget on/off toggle.
Google play Services and Playstore are normally disabled except when because they're such troublemakers.
Google backup Transport, Framework, Firebase are always disabled.
I also use Karma Firewall to lock down a bunch of apks/services.
My stock N10+/Pie gets 7-11%@hr SOT now. At night using tap on AOD with phone, texting and internet enabled it uses >.5% battery per hour.
Current OS load is over a year old, still fast and very stable with little maintenance needed.
Took over a year for me to fully optimize it.
It's a learning process, but well worth it.
Could you provide some information on how you disable the items in your list? For example I google for disabling Firebase but nothing comes up.
I'm looking at adb logcat to see if something jumps out at me but so far most of it seems useless.
Google Firebase is under Settings, Google account. It collects all kinds of your usage data ie music, playlists, vids etc on your dime, allegedly for faster indexing.
This Disabler works:
Home - Package Disabler
The only NON-root solution that let’s you disable any unwanted packages that come pre-installed / installed with your phone / tablet.
www.packagedisabler.com
blackhawk said:
Google Firebase is under Settings, Google account. It collects all kinds of your usage data ie music, playlists, vids etc on your dime, allegedly for faster indexing.
This Disabler works:
Home - Package Disabler
The only NON-root solution that let’s you disable any unwanted packages that come pre-installed / installed with your phone / tablet.
www.packagedisabler.com
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Thank you! How reliable is the disable bloat feature in the dashboard for Package Disabler?
Android.Addiction said:
Thank you! How reliable is the disable bloat feature in the dashboard for Package Disabler?
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What do you mean exactly?
It disables most.
I tried generating a current list but I'm having problems similar to yours
I need to play with it a bit.
Ok I made some progress on this issue. The app that I removed that caused this is:
Code:
com.samsung.android.lool
This is listed in this repo: https://github.com/khlam/debloat-samsung-android
The repository has this to say about the "Device Care" app:
The Device Care app will be disabled and will not appear in settings. This includes Samsung's app sleeper and battery monitor. There is evidence the Device Care app created by the Chinese company Qihoo 360 sends data to China domains over HTTP.
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Is there any other app I can use to analyze battery usage of applications on my tablet?
Android.Addiction said:
Ok I made some progress on this issue. The app that I removed that caused this is:
Code:
com.samsung.android.lool
This is listed in this repo: https://github.com/khlam/debloat-samsung-android
The repository has this to say about the "Device Care" app:
Is there any other app I can use to analyze battery usage of applications on my tablet?
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Device Care is a useful app. I use the original factory load version that came with my 10+.
It uses the suspected CCP spyware 360° cleaning app, which actually does a very good job. I simply firewall block it's untrustworthy a$$
Latter Device Care versions aren't as useful but still have needed settings toggles. After you set them you can disable it. I recommend you not use battery optimization or and of those toggles, only toggle on fast charging. This app doesn't use a lot of power as best I can tell as long as the battery optimizing toggles aren't enabled.
blackhawk said:
Device Care is a useful app. I use the original factory load version that came with my 10+.
It uses the suspected CCP spyware 360° cleaning app, which actually does a very good job. I simply firewall block it's untrustworthy a$$
Latter Device Care versions aren't as useful but still have needed settings toggles. After you set them you can disable it. I recommend you not use battery optimization or and of those toggles, only toggle on fast charging. This app doesn't use a lot of power as best I can tell as long as the battery optimizing toggles aren't enabled.
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I instead went with a separate app, AccuBattery, to monitor app battery usage. That way I'm not relying on potential malware from Samsung
Android.Addiction said:
I instead went with a separate app, AccuBattery, to monitor app battery usage. That way I'm not relying on potential malware from Samsung
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Accubattery can't do what Device Care does.
I use Accubattery too.
The newer versions dropped 360° so it's gone.
360° deep cleaning actually works very well and is probably no threat when firewall blocked. Which is why I still run the factory load version.
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Accubattery can't do what Device Care does.
I use Accubattery too.
The newer versions dropped 360° so it's gone.
360° deep cleaning actually works very well and is probably no threat when firewall blocked. Which is why I still run the factory load version.
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What is 360?
Android.Addiction said:
What is 360?
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I still don't know what it actually is.
Android.Addiction said:
I still don't know what it actually is.
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It's a cleaning app Samsung use to license to use in Device Care. Unfortunately the Chinese company that owned it was data mining user data so Samsung ditched them.
So I just firewall block it... it works well otherwise.
blackhawk said:
Accubattery can't do what Device Care does.
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What exactly does Device Care (or 360) do that Accubattery doesn't? I'm trying to decide if I want to re-enable it, and any details you provide here will help me understand a bit better to make that decision. Thanks for everything so far.
Android.Addiction said:
What exactly does Device Care (or 360) do that Accubattery doesn't? I'm trying to decide if I want to re-enable it, and any details you provide here will help me understand a bit better to make that decision. Thanks for everything so far.
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The old Device Care with 360° effectively cleans system logs files and other hidden caches.
Cleans some things SD Maid doesn't seem to touch. If you load the old version simply block it with Karma Firewall which uses almost no battery, ad free.
Battery stats are much more detailed in Device Care. It also has easy power mode settings... play with it. No harm, no foul.
Hi y’all
i have been lurking from quite long time here, it happened that I will receive my phone in the following days, and I was wondering if it was debloatable, I could not find any info on the s23 so I am asking here. thaks
Yes everything can be debloated using adb commands, Google universal android debloater gui github (free open source not as fancy) or adb app control (free with paid version that does a lot for your device)
Or Package Installer App
spart0n said:
Yes everything can be debloated using adb commands, Google universal android debloater gui github (free open source not as fancy) or adb app control (free with paid version that does a lot for your device)
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which list should I follow for minimal debloating? But not breaking too much,
it really depends on what you are trying to achieve...you can debloat Facebook and its croony apps, LinkedIn, onedrive, swiftkey, and any garbage google apps that don't interest you...I wouldn't advice removing Samsung wallet, pass, knox, bixby and the keyboard as these are tied very closely to the system and debloating these could break something at the system level...I learnt it the hard way and had to ODIN flash the stock rom.
Ravinala said:
which list should I follow for minimal debloating? But not breaking too much,
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They both have different degrees of how much debloat you want. They both also let you choose which items you want debloated. Universal android debloater gui gives you a description of what each thing is and does while adb app control let's you one click copy the package name to google it to see what the internet says about it
spart0n said:
They both have different degrees of how much debloat you want. They both also let you choose which items you want debloated. Universal android debloater gui gives you a description of what each thing is and does while adb app control let's you one click copy the package name to google it to see what the internet says about it
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Yes this is what i would like, removing facebook, youtube and so on but not limiting my usage.
I hope you can help me
amirage said:
it really depends on what you are trying to achieve...you can debloat Facebook and its croony apps, LinkedIn, onedrive, swiftkey, and any garbage google apps that don't interest you...I wouldn't advice removing Samsung wallet, pass, knox, bixby and the keyboard as these are tied very closely to the system and debloating these could break something at the system level...I learnt it the hard way and had to ODIN flash the stock rom.
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It is enough to do a factory reset, then all apps are back. I removed wallet, pass, bixby, keyboard, knox (kept only android.knox.mpos) and everything works.
Kyrist said:
It is enough to do a factory reset, then all apps are back. I removed wallet, pass, bixby, keyboard, knox (kept only android.knox.mpos) and everything works.
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which list did you use? I am not sure which one to use
Kyrist said:
It is enough to do a factory reset, then all apps are back. I removed wallet, pass, bixby, keyboard, knox (kept only android.knox.mpos) and everything works.
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Yes a factory reset brings them all back. There's no real way to completely remove the apps unless you unlock the bootloader and replace the recovery partition with something like twrp but without unlocking the bootloader you can't lose any apps forever
I
spart0n said:
Yes a factory reset brings them all back. There's no real way to completely remove the apps unless you unlock the bootloader and replace the recovery partition with something like but without unlocking the bootloader you can't lose any apps forever
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So do you recommend me trying to debloat it or no
Ravinala said:
So do you recommend me trying to debloat it or no
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I always recommend debloating
spart0n said:
I always recommend debloating
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is there any link that you could recommend ? because the one on github has more than 20000 lines is it normal?
Ravinala said:
is there any link that you could recommend ? because the one on github has more than 20000 lines is it normal?
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Universal android debloater gui has a download https://github.com/0x192/universal-android-debloater/releases/tag/0.5.1
Download either one that is an exe they both work on windows
I debloated mine the first day I got it. It had some bloat from T-Mobile and plenty of that Google bloat as well. Removing the Samsung keyboard can be done, you just have to install and set another keyboard to default first. I removed Samsung Messages, Samsung's keyboard, Samsung Pass, and Samsung Pay without any issues.
I remove or disable all the carrier crap that comes on the phone. The Verizon things, the random games, etc. The Samsung stuff I don't or won't use.
Beyond that, I'll disable a few things but otherwise leave things as is. The phones now are so much more powerful and everything optimized so much better, that having a bunch of superfluous apps and processes running really has very little impact.
On my old Droid X or LG G3 for example, I'd load a custom ROM that was basically stripped of everything other than essential processes and Google apps and it made a huge difference. But now, doing the same thing isn't going to make nearly the same kind of impact for most users. The stock experience is already fantastic and there isn't a whole lot of gains to be made by removing stuff.
Ravinala said:
which list did you use? I am not sure which one to use
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https://github.com/0x192/universal-android-debloater/blob/main/resources/assets/uad_lists.json
I have uninstalled the ones marked with recommended and advanced.
hi, i wondering if there is any chance to replace the stock samsung package installer app, cuz im using china mainland firmware and local customization inserts ads in it. any time after install process finishes then a huge half screen size ads popup and full of some random hook-ups apps. also the one ui launcher that i prefer the one using google feed rather than so called bixby smart page. thanks!
you could use AppManager as an installer
you will have to have root or you can enable the option via adb, im using the adb option and it works like a charm and you get a little bit more information about the app and what changes are in terms of version number and permissions.
Aleks95 said:
you could use AppManager as an installer
you will have to have root or you can enable the option via adb, im using the adb option and it works like a charm and you get a little bit more information about the app and what changes are in terms of version number and permissions.
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i checked out and its amazing. thank you
glad you liked it