Please, convince me on not buying the Pro...
I have the S21 Ultra so didn't need the zoom ,120hz and so the extra 300 for the Pro were not worth the hassle.
Also the 6 has everything else the same and in the UK you got the bose 700 headphones on preorder regardless which you got.
So it was a no brainer for me.
If you are not a camera person the Pixel 6 is the way to go.
Also compared to the Pro the S21 Ultra is a better buy with 10x zoom and the Spen feature and you probably get it cheaper now.
Didn't think it was worth $300 more.
The Pixel 6 Pro has curved screen edges while the Pixel 6 is a flat screen which is what I prefer.
Curved screen. Have an actual camera so the $300 for the telephoto did not seem economic.
Curved screen, size, and price.
Yeah the telephoto would be cool in certain situations and there's been a few times already I wish I had it, but not enough to justify an extra $300 and having to put up with the screen edges and extra bulk.
Physically the Pixel 6 is a nearly identical in size to my Pixel 2 XL, just a smidgen heavier.
Size. Pro is too big.
Size, price and the flat screen.
In the UK the price difference is £300, which is over $400. Crazy amount to justify the additional zoom and screen differences.
I also prefer the black frame look to the metallic sides of the Pro.
improved battery live over the Pro. Often I ask keep asking myself the same question and so far come back to the same conclusion. It would be really cool to have a flagship phone with the beautiful curved and larger screen and the additional camera feature. But then it's $300 more for that and the additional RAM. I've had an S21 Ultra before and sometimes miss the large smooth screen.
If there had been a difference in the processor I would have definitely picked the Pro.
cheers
I bought both to compare to each other and send back one within the return window.
I like the size of the 6 better, and the color of the sorta sea foam. The 6 screen wasn't as responsive out of the box but now for some reason feels more fluid.
The audio is important to me as I use phones with Viper4android with high end gear and both phones sound the same in that dept, almost better than my S21 Ultra, which until now was the best sounding phone to me.
Weird that Pixel doesn't have dolby like Samsung and One Plus phones.
Mostly price, but also size and flat screen.
Price was too much for me, don't care about telescopic lens, phone is too big for me, and lastly the curved edges make it difficult to find a good reliable glass screen protector.
As of now, not even Whitestone Dome has come up with a glass screen protector and they make great glass screen protectors for screens with curved edges.
The Pixel 6 is about the same size as previous Pixel XL devices which makes it the perfect size for me. The regular sized Pixel was fine for me back then too but the small battery along with not being able to see very well when having two windows open is a deal breaker for me.
Mainly price and being a flat screen device.
Money and flat screen.
The bigger question for me is why I got a Pixel 6 and not a lower end phone. I never even considered the pro because:
A) Price
B) I preferred a even smaller, not larger phone.
C) Camera was of minimal concern for me because I rarely use a cell phone for 'real' pictures - I have a mirrorless APS-C camera for that. Cell phone pics are more for in store "which item should I get?" type pics.
D) Coming from a 60Hz screen, 90Hz was already an upgrade.
E) I am not a gamer, and don't push my phone hard, so extra RAM was not necessary.
D) According to reviews, real world battery life on the regular model is suppose to be better. (I assume the bigger higher res screen on the pro is the main reason)
I came from a Pixel 4 XL which became a sweet spot size wise for me. The Pixel 6 is very comparable in size to the Pixel 4 XL so that and the price is what made me buy the 6 over the 6 Pro.
If I hadn't needed the 512 GB version of the Pixel 6, which is only in Pro, I would have strongly considered the regular 6. I don't regret having the Pro except for the curved screens, but I knew it would.
I had never seen a Pro until yesterday, but it only took me 10 seconds for me to know I made the right choice. I don't like the curved screen and although it is slightly taller, it didn't appear to be any wider than the regular 6.
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Well i just done it and traded my Note 3 for this beautiful phone and here are my first day impressions
Build Quality : Solid, sleek, beautiful and classy.. Kinda like the White Iphone 4 i got when it was just released and not many people had it yet... i pulled this thing out in the public and people were either in awe or thought i was stupid.. im not sure yet but i notice people tend to look over. I saw alot of reviews saying because it was really thin it's hard to pick up, i tried and really found out they were being nit picky about that kinda stuff (like phones that rock when you touch them).. who cares its easy to pick up its not going to make your life harder.
Cons : As nice as it is, Samsung won me over with the removal back cover and replacement battery. One time i had no idea what was wrong with my phone, i called my friend up and asked him to swap batteries.. turns out my battery died from wiping my phone down with too much water lol. i would of wasted alot of money sending it in if i didn't swap batteries with my friend to see the problem. $15 to replace the battery. On the plus side the Z Ultra is waterproof so i can wipe it down as much as i want now.
Battery Life : Decent, compared to my Note 3 i surfed the net for an hr and a half and ended up with about %70 battery life on max brightness, if i did the same with the Note i would be around %80 and not need to set brightness that high and have even more battery saved.
Screen and Size : When i first saw the screen it didn't blow me away initially because i was used to the over saturated display of the amoled but non the less the more i looked at it the more i realized it was a Beautiful display panel, unsaturated colours bigger and better with better colour accuracy over the Note. It wasn't until i decided to see how good the blacks were was where it was a let down. I loaded up the movie Aliens and tried watching a few dark scenes, the colour skin tones and everything was nice and way better then the Note but the blacks in the dark scenes were not deep enough.. it made the movie feel washed out and faded and was not enjoyable as seeing the dark corners clearly takes away from the movie experience.. This is coming from someone who loves watching movies on projector i can't but notice that flaw..from my eye test it seems to have a 1000:1 contrast ratio which is not good. To the average user i would say the blacks are definitely sufficient for movies but to the trained eye it totally sucks and i was expecting more from sony on the display as i bought this phone only for media purposes. That being said it seems like a big trade off for me since the amoled has the best blacks of any phone and i'm sure their over saturated colours can be corrected with proper tools but can the blacks be fixed on the Sony Xperia Z Ultra? i'll have to see if there are tools for it but the limitations are likely within the panels itself.
Note 3 Display (Amoled) = Deep blacks really good for watching movies,
Cons = Over saturated inaccurate colours
Sony Xperia Z Ulta = Accurate colours,better tones, sharper better to look at
Cons = Blacks are a little washed out and faded (average users may not care or notice)
Games = I have yet to play a game on this but i can tell its going to kick some butt because the screen is so nice and large
Sound = The Speakers on this thing blows.. it sounds like my old Iphone 4 just louder.. and vs modern phones its far too quiet.. don't expect anything more
Pocket test, i'm 5'10 and a half wore skinny jeans with it, to my surprise it didn't stick out of my pocket like everyone. Pocketable for me
Camera = I don't take pictures not a deal for me
Speed = Although the Note 3 has 3 gigs of ram and faster mhz, the Sony felt snappier the moment i used it. Everything felt zippier and just faster overall. Likely due to Samsung touchwiz
Am i going to return/sell this for a Note 3? Probably not, i'll need a week or 2 to decide if i watch that many dark movies for the blacks to bother me enough. Everything about the screen is better except for the blacks as long as you don't mind then go for the SXU. I love big screens and if i could get the Mediapad X1 when it releases i'll buy that but for now the Sony Xperia Z Ultra seems like a fine phone to me.
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Well i just done it and traded my Note 3 for this beautiful phone and here are my first day impressions
Build Quality : Solid, sleek, beautiful and classy.. Kinda like the White Iphone 4 i got when it was just released and not many people had it yet... i pulled this thing out in the public and people were either in awe or thought i was stupid.. im not sure yet but i notice people tend to look over. I saw alot of reviews saying because it was really thin it's hard to pick up, i tried and really found out they were being nit picky about that kinda stuff (like phones that rock when you touch them).. who cares its easy to pick up its not going to make your life harder.
Cons : As nice as it is, Samsung won me over with the removal back cover and replacement battery. One time i had no idea what was wrong with my phone, i called my friend up and asked him to swap batteries.. turns out my battery died from wiping my phone down with too much water lol. i would of wasted alot of money sending it in if i didn't swap batteries with my friend to see the problem. $15 to replace the battery. On the plus side the Z Ultra is waterproof so i can wipe it down as much as i want now.
Battery Life : Decent, compared to my Note 3 i surfed the net for an hr and a half and ended up with about %70 battery life on max brightness, if i did the same with the Note i would be around %80 and not need to set brightness that high and have even more battery saved.
Screen and Size : When i first saw the screen it didn't blow me away initially because i was used to the over saturated display of the amoled but non the less the more i looked at it the more i realized it was a Beautiful display panel, unsaturated colours bigger and better with better colour accuracy over the Note. It wasn't until i decided to see how good the blacks were was where it was a let down. I loaded up the movie Aliens and tried watching a few dark scenes, the colour skin tones and everything was nice and way better then the Note but the blacks in the dark scenes were not deep enough.. it made the movie feel washed out and faded and was not enjoyable as seeing the dark corners clearly takes away from the movie experience.. This is coming from someone who loves watching movies on projector i can't but notice that flaw..from my eye test it seems to have a 1000:1 contrast ratio which is not good. To the average user i would say the blacks are definitely sufficient for movies but to the trained eye it totally sucks and i was expecting more from sony on the display as i bought this phone only for media purposes. That being said it seems like a big trade off for me since the amoled has the best blacks of any phone and i'm sure their over saturated colours can be corrected with proper tools but can the blacks be fixed on the Sony Xperia Z Ultra? i'll have to see if there are tools for it but the limitations are likely within the panels itself.
Note 3 Display (Amoled) = Deep blacks really good for watching movies,
Cons = Over saturated inaccurate colours
Sony Xperia Z Ulta = Accurate colours,better tones, sharper better to look at
Cons = Blacks are a little washed out and faded (average users may not care or notice)
Games = I have yet to play a game on this but i can tell its going to kick some butt because the screen is so nice and large
Sound = The Speakers on this thing blows.. it sounds like my old Iphone 4 just louder.. and vs modern phones its far too quiet.. don't expect anything more
Pocket test, i'm 5'10 and a half wore skinny jeans with it, to my surprise it didn't stick out of my pocket like everyone. Pocketable for me
Camera = I don't take pictures not a deal for me
Speed = Although the Note 3 has 3 gigs of ram and faster mhz, the Sony felt snappier the moment i used it. Everything felt zippier and just faster overall. Likely due to Samsung touchwiz
Am i going to return/sell this for a Note 3? Probably not, i'll need a week or 2 to decide if i watch that many dark movies for the blacks to bother me enough. Everything about the screen is better except for the blacks as long as you don't mind then go for the SXU. I love big screens and if i could get the Mediapad X1 when it releases i'll buy that but for now the Sony Xperia Z Ultra seems like a fine phone to me.
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Your expectations were too high in regard to the black value on the ZXU. The Notes all have amoled, thus the pixels are nearly off when displaying black. Mind you, this is the only screen tech that offers that. Super LCD, IPS, Triluminos don't have that. It's a well known trade off. What you get back in return is better color reproduction, better sharpness, etc. The black value is by no means bad, not different from most televisions actually. A lot of reviewers call the ZXU a mini Sony Bravia TV and that is exactly what it is.
I reckon your eyes really need to get used to the ZXU display, which requires extensive time and movie watching. This makes sense if your eyes have been accustomed to the Note line for a long time now. I have the Note 2 as well and I find the greys/black not that good to be honest, as the contrast doesn't seem to work that well. A lot of times scenes are too dark compared to reference material.
The ZXU remains a marvel, I suggest you spend some more time with it and report back in a while :good:
anonapersons said:
Well i just done it and traded my Note 3 for this beautiful phone and here are my first day impressions
Build Quality : Solid, sleek, beautiful and classy.. Kinda like the White Iphone 4 i got when it was just released and not many people had it yet... i pulled this thing out in the public and people were either in awe or thought i was stupid.. im not sure yet but i notice people tend to look over. I saw alot of reviews saying because it was really thin it's hard to pick up, i tried and really found out they were being nit picky about that kinda stuff (like phones that rock when you touch them).. who cares its easy to pick up its not going to make your life harder.
Cons : As nice as it is, Samsung won me over with the removal back cover and replacement battery. One time i had no idea what was wrong with my phone, i called my friend up and asked him to swap batteries.. turns out my battery died from wiping my phone down with too much water lol. i would of wasted alot of money sending it in if i didn't swap batteries with my friend to see the problem. $15 to replace the battery. On the plus side the Z Ultra is waterproof so i can wipe it down as much as i want now.
Battery Life : Decent, compared to my Note 3 i surfed the net for an hr and a half and ended up with about %70 battery life on max brightness, if i did the same with the Note i would be around %80 and not need to set brightness that high and have even more battery saved.
Screen and Size : When i first saw the screen it didn't blow me away initially because i was used to the over saturated display of the amoled but non the less the more i looked at it the more i realized it was a Beautiful display panel, unsaturated colours bigger and better with better colour accuracy over the Note. It wasn't until i decided to see how good the blacks were was where it was a let down. I loaded up the movie Aliens and tried watching a few dark scenes, the colour skin tones and everything was nice and way better then the Note but the blacks in the dark scenes were not deep enough.. it made the movie feel washed out and faded and was not enjoyable as seeing the dark corners clearly takes away from the movie experience.. This is coming from someone who loves watching movies on projector i can't but notice that flaw..from my eye test it seems to have a 1000:1 contrast ratio which is not good. To the average user i would say the blacks are definitely sufficient for movies but to the trained eye it totally sucks and i was expecting more from sony on the display as i bought this phone only for media purposes. That being said it seems like a big trade off for me since the amoled has the best blacks of any phone and i'm sure their over saturated colours can be corrected with proper tools but can the blacks be fixed on the Sony Xperia Z Ultra? i'll have to see if there are tools for it but the limitations are likely within the panels itself.
Note 3 Display (Amoled) = Deep blacks really good for watching movies,
Cons = Over saturated inaccurate colours
Sony Xperia Z Ulta = Accurate colours,better tones, sharper better to look at
Cons = Blacks are a little washed out and faded (average users may not care or notice)
Games = I have yet to play a game on this but i can tell its going to kick some butt because the screen is so nice and large
Sound = The Speakers on this thing blows.. it sounds like my old Iphone 4 just louder.. and vs modern phones its far too quiet.. don't expect anything more
Pocket test, i'm 5'10 and a half wore skinny jeans with it, to my surprise it didn't stick out of my pocket like everyone. Pocketable for me
Camera = I don't take pictures not a deal for me
Speed = Although the Note 3 has 3 gigs of ram and faster mhz, the Sony felt snappier the moment i used it. Everything felt zippier and just faster overall. Likely due to Samsung touchwiz
Am i going to return/sell this for a Note 3? Probably not, i'll need a week or 2 to decide if i watch that many dark movies for the blacks to bother me enough. Everything about the screen is better except for the blacks as long as you don't mind then go for the SXU. I love big screens and if i could get the Mediapad X1 when it releases i'll buy that but for now the Sony Xperia Z Ultra seems like a fine phone to me.
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Yup, Gideon is pretty much straight on here. I came from a Galaxy Note so I was used to an AMOLED panel, and let me tell you that I was quite shocked. Deep blacks (in the dark)? Nope. Aaand that's pretty much it. The Note display was darker and more saturated, and I was pretty much surprised when I got the Ultra, except I wasn't.
AMOLED displays do not have a backlight, so black will actually be black. Black will be turned off.
LCD panels do have backlights, so black will still have a backlight, only the light will be dimmed. It's the same thing as your TV. The Ultra uses LED. So yeah, the Ultra is pretty much a Bravia TV.
Audio, yeah... It's not very good. Don't forget that the Ultra is waterproof so the speakers have a membrane that makes it waterproof.
Camera: No flash so it won't take great photos in the dark or even inside your home, bit it's not that bad once you're outside in the daylight.
Overall, the Note 3 is a more "all arounder", but you're paying a lot for a luxury item that doesn't feel like it's what it is. It feels like a plasticy...thing. The Sony is a luxury item that does a lot, but it also feels like a luxury item. It's incredible big, but you also feel that you've paid for a quality glass and aluminium product.
- Note 3: Big plastic phablet
- Z Ultra: Huge glass and metal phablet
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I just sold my note 3 and ordered zu gpe I loved the phone but locked bootloader killed it for me cant wait to try this phone!
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I just sold my note 3 and ordered zu gpe I loved the phone but locked bootloader killed it for me cant wait to try this phone!
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Just dumped my day one note2 and ordered stock sony version last night Samsung was driving me crazy with the knox crap lol.
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Just dumped my day one note2 and ordered stock sony version last night Samsung was driving me crazy with the knox crap lol.
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Same here... Love the big screen on this beast.
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I, too, traded in a Note 3 for a Z Ultra, but I bought the Google Play Edition (and of course I bought it a little over a month before they dropped the price to $449). I couldn't be happier with this thing. My only real gripes are:
1. The camera sucks in low light.
2. The headphone jack is on the side. That placement makes it awkward sometimes when I put the phone in my pocket while going out for a walk.
3. I absolutely HATE that anti-shatter film that's on the front and back glass. For starters, it scratches if you look at it (just like any screen protector does), and the oleophobic coating that they put on the front rubs off within the first 3 or so weeks. I would remove it, but I don't really care enough to waste the time, plus you need a razorblade to do it and I don't like getting razorblades anywhere near my phone. This also says nothing of the fact that removing the film also voids your warranty.
These are all pretty minor complaints in the grand scheme of things, at least when I consider my own needs in a phone. When it comes to the important stuff, this phone excels. The hardware is top shelf, it's fast, stock Android runs amazingly well on it, the screen is gorgeous, and it's really the perfect size for me. :good:
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I, too, traded in a Note 3 for a Z Ultra, but I bought the Google Play Edition (and of course I bought it a little over a month before they dropped the price to $449). I couldn't be happier with this thing. My only real gripes are:
1. The camera sucks in low light.
2. The headphone jack is on the side. That placement makes it awkward sometimes when I put the phone in my pocket while going out for a walk.
3. I absolutely HATE that anti-shatter film that's on the front and back glass. For starters, it scratches if you look at it (just like any screen protector does), and the oleophobic coating that they put on the front rubs off within the first 3 or so weeks. I would remove it, but I don't really care enough to waste the time, plus you need a razorblade to do it and I don't like getting razorblades anywhere near my phone. This also says nothing of the fact that removing the film also voids your warranty.
These are all pretty minor complaints in the grand scheme of things, at least when I consider my own needs in a phone. When it comes to the important stuff, this phone excels. The hardware is top shelf, it's fast, stock Android runs amazingly well on it, the screen is gorgeous, and it's really the perfect size for me. :good:
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If Z2 Ultra is indeed an oversized Z2, all your complaint will be gone (except maybe the camera, but 13mp one would not hurt just like T2U) then that would really ring my bell..
about headset placement, actually i think i like it on the side. Because the device itself is longer than any general pocket available, so when the jack comes in, it might very well be outside the pocket. Plus when you play it landscape, nothing protrude from the side, hence easier handling. Plus some Bluetooth Companion wouldn't hurt (in fact such device is promoted from the start to be used with XZU)
I came from a Note 1 (GT-N7000) and at the time it was basically price between note 3 and z ultra. The ultra was $100 cheaper and I had a buyer for my N7000 so I went ahead and got the Z.
I agree with the following:
1. Amoled is a superior display, no doubt. However, the 6.4" vs 5.7 makes up for it.
2. Unlocked - I have changed carriers twice since owning this phone. If I bought the t-mobile Note 3, i'd be out of luck (the model I was previously leaning toward), or at the least, had to pay a fee to unlock it.
3. Camera is an absolute joke. I don't take many pictures like the OP, but the ones I do take are just horrid in low light.
4. There are issues with sony software. I get crackle in my text messages, and the phantom touch issue is there sometimes. However, i'd rather have these issues than be faced with KNOX. Plus, I know sony will address the issues eventually.
In the end, i'm glad I got the z ultra over note 3.
Z Ultra
Well, I also just bought the Xperia Z Ultra and as soon as I finished updating and arranging most things, I came here for some extra search for extra work that needs to be done with this device! I am also an owner of the Xperia Z (yuga/C6603) for more than a year and since I had enough to complain issues with it, I was a little bit puzzled about how the big brother Ultra was going to perform! As it has been mentioned, and that's the reason I am posting in this thread, I was between 3 devices including Samsung's Note 3 and LG's G Flex! The reason I didn't go with the Note 3, despite the perfect screen and the faster and bigger RAM, and among the 4K camera capabilities, was that as soon as I hold it in my hand I knew it wouldn't even compare to the Z's quality I've been using for quite long! The plastic leather-alike back cover was quite a lot slippery after you have used the device enough to sweat your hand! Also a drawback I could also see was that its 5.7" display looked tiny next to the G Flex and the Ultra for me, so as to be consider a phablet! It actually felt more like a normal phone like anything else with a little bit oversized screen. And then came G Flex which also astonished me with its design and curved build but I could spot a huge difference in the 720p display next to the Note 3 and the Ultra! I adored though the design and the 32gb built in storage but those couldn't be enough for me to purchase it! I also didn't like so much the coating on the back cover, which also feels and is slippy straight out of the box, although I think it is supposed to be some kind of self healing coating to help with shallow and/or light scratches. After some minor tests I was able to make in a store that had them all for customers to see and play with, when I reached the Ultra and hold it in my hand I knew it was the device I would after all buy since its build quality and its exceptional slim design made me looking around like a retard :laugh: !! So, to end up with, after experiencing these three phabs the weight up of pros and cons for each had come and despite all the camera capabilities both G Flex and Note 3 had over the Ultra the price tags pointed which deserved to be bought, considering what it offered and it could't be anything else than the Ultra! For the records, I bought it in purple(cuz i couldn't find yuga back in 2013 in purple and i was craving for it ) in the awesome price of 325 euros with the G Flex costing 425 euros and the Note 3 being at the price of 460 euros! As it is obvious, I could't even a second think for a reason to spend over 100 euros forone of the other two! After 4 days of heavy usage and insanely lots of recharges I am extraordinarily amazed to find out that Sony has done everything that hasn't for the yuga! No more lags, no more UI glitches, no more stuttering animations and no more scrolling problems within every day apps like Chrome! The only cons I was able to notice that do disappoint me are:
1. Sound quality or at least one more speaker like the one it is already on device would be perfect! (I am searching for sound mods now, hope to find sth good)
2. The camera sensor could have been the same with the Xperia Z (13MP) with a LED (though I wont be taking any pictures with any phablet for now)
3. I would expect a bigger battery, although it has convinced me to be fair enough despite its small, for the screen's size, capacity
4. The phantom touch issue is a bit annoying from times to times
5. The screen should be a a little more dimmer for outdoors use
To conclude with, I'll always find it a lovely device, with great network speed, excellent performance, excellent build quality and excessively excellent and gorgeous design! I hope I made a good choice to choose the Ultra over the other two, but even if I didn't I am still more than a hundred euros richer to consume on accessories!
PS: I was amazed to find out the time I was unboxing that the magnetic dock DK30 was included in the box for free! I really didn't expect that and I was really pleased to find out that Sony saved me about 25 euros for spending on sth else!
I came from the Note 3 and the Note 2 I had before that.
I agree with the removable battery thing, but honestly, battery life is able to last me throughout the day unless I'm heavily using it, so I haven't really been in a bind yet in that regard.
I also agree with the speaker. Flash the sound boost mod, it's mandatory IMO. I've attached it for you. It's like night and day, honestly, but I've found it's a louder boost on 4.3 than it is on 4.4, which is one reason I haven't updated to KitKat. But, if you are using the ZU mainly for media consumption, what are you doing not using a bluetooth speaker!?!? I waited a long time to get one and shouldn't have waited. I researched a lot, pick up an Arctic S113BT off Amazon. It's aptx, got NFC, louder than the Jambox, and 3x less expensive ($40). Only thing that's annoying is the BT audio/video syncing that's always a bit off 90% of the time you first turn it on. Needs some closing of programs and going back to the homescreen to get it to sync up sometimes. I just have the speaker next to me when I'm watching my shows now, it's made everything more enjoyable.
Your gripes and analysis pretty much echoed mine, you'll really get to love the device after a little more time (I should be a rapper, mad rhymes).
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Well, I also just bought the Xperia Z Ultra and as soon as I finished updating and arranging most things, I came here for some extra search for extra work that needs to be done with this device! I am also an owner of the Xperia Z (yuga/C6603) for more than a year and since I had enough to complain issues with it, I was a little bit puzzled about how the big brother Ultra was going to perform! As it has been mentioned, and that's the reason I am posting in this thread, I was between 3 devices including Samsung's Note 3 and LG's G Flex! The reason I didn't go with the Note 3, despite the perfect screen and the faster and bigger RAM, and among the 4K camera capabilities, was that as soon as I hold it in my hand I knew it wouldn't even compare to the Z's quality I've been using for quite long! The plastic leather-alike back cover was quite a lot slippery after you have used the device enough to sweat your hand! Also a drawback I could also see was that its 5.7" display looked tiny next to the G Flex and the Ultra for me, so as to be consider a phablet! It actually felt more like a normal phone like anything else with a little bit oversized screen. And then came G Flex which also astonished me with its design and curved build but I could spot a huge difference in the 720p display next to the Note 3 and the Ultra! I adored though the design and the 32gb built in storage but those couldn't be enough for me to purchase it! I also didn't like so much the coating on the back cover, which also feels and is slippy straight out of the box, although I think it is supposed to be some kind of self healing coating to help with shallow and/or light scratches. After some minor tests I was able to make in a store that had them all for customers to see and play with, when I reached the Ultra and hold it in my hand I knew it was the device I would after all buy since its build quality and its exceptional slim design made me looking around like a retard :laugh: !! So, to end up with, after experiencing these three phabs the weight up of pros and cons for each had come and despite all the camera capabilities both G Flex and Note 3 had over the Ultra the price tags pointed which deserved to be bought, considering what it offered and it could't be anything else than the Ultra! For the records, I bought it in purple(cuz i couldn't find yuga back in 2013 in purple and i was craving for it ) in the awesome price of 325 euros with the G Flex costing 425 euros and the Note 3 being at the price of 460 euros! As it is obvious, I could't even a second think for a reason to spend over 100 euros forone of the other two! After 4 days of heavy usage and insanely lots of recharges I am extraordinarily amazed to find out that Sony has done everything that hasn't for the yuga! No more lags, no more UI glitches, no more stuttering animations and no more scrolling problems within every day apps like Chrome! The only cons I was able to notice that do disappoint me are:
1. Sound quality or at least one more speaker like the one it is already on device would be perfect! (I am searching for sound mods now, hope to find sth good)
2. The camera sensor could have been the same with the Xperia Z (13MP) with a LED (though I wont be taking any pictures with any phablet for now)
3. I would expect a bigger battery, although it has convinced me to be fair enough despite its small, for the screen's size, capacity
4. The phantom touch issue is a bit annoying from times to times
5. The screen should be a a little more dimmer for outdoors use
To conclude with, I'll always find it a lovely device, with great network speed, excellent performance, excellent build quality and excessively excellent and gorgeous design! I hope I made a good choice to choose the Ultra over the other two, but even if I didn't I am still more than a hundred euros richer to consume on accessories!
PS: I was amazed to find out the time I was unboxing that the magnetic dock DK30 was included in the box for free! I really didn't expect that and I was really pleased to find out that Sony saved me about 25 euros for spending on sth else!
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Very nice post, and welcome!
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Thank you a lot my friend! Nice to be in such a community, although I am not quite new as of time concerned! On the contrary, it is such a complete this community I really hadn't to create an account to participate! Everything I ever searched for from the times of galaxy ace back to the '06s! Awesome work from anyone here! ??
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Thank you a lot my friend! Nice to be in such a community, although I am not quite new as of time concerned! On the contrary, it is such a complete this community I really hadn't to create an account to participate! Everything I ever searched for from the times of galaxy ace back to the '06s! Awesome work from anyone here! ??
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So you're a lurker becoming a poster. Good stuff!
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So you're a lurker becoming a poster. Good stuff!
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I'll try!
Its that time of (every second) year when my contracts up for renewal so i'm full on obsessing about the new rumours around these phones. Im a big media consumer so the bigger the screen the better and currently rocking an s6 edge plus which i love apart from the hardware buttons.
The note 8 has just a 0.1 in larger screen that the s8 plus and i'm hoping for 4k screen and smaller bezels if possible
The V30 looks great and there's talk of round edged Amoled screens (about time) but will these be plastic and not gorilla glass?
Liking the full display look of the iphone 8 but i cant help wondering if it will have big ass bezels as all the screenshots and mockups look like that
fingers crossed there'll be quad dac in one of the above but ive lost hope on stereo front facing speakers
what are your thoughts?
That is the question.
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Non pro. Easy choice.
Deciding factors:
1. 16:9 aspect ratio;
2. High screen to body ratio with large usable screen area because of option to not use on screen buttons which would otherwise eat one line from the screen; <—this one is actually the most important one since mate 10 gets overlooked, since its seems that its “just” 5.9” but its fckin 5.9” in 16:9+no buttons. It much more usable screen than sausage style note8,s8 pluses..
3. Headphone jack;
4. Expandable storage.
Pro is just plain stupid and a failed model IMO. Even if you do like the 18:9 aspect ratio, mate 10 pro imo sits in third place in such category behind s8+ and v30 (even with that amoled lottery)
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Non pro. Easy choice.
Deciding factors:
1. 16:9 aspect ratio;
2. High screen to body ratio with large usable screen area because of option to not use on screen buttons which would otherwise eat one line from the screen; <—this one is actually the most important one since mate 10 gets overlooked, since its seems that its “just” 5.9” but its fckin 5.9” in 16:9+no buttons. It much more usable screen than sausage style note8,s8 pluses..
3. Headphone jack;
4. Expandable storage.
Pro is just plain stupid and a failed model IMO. Even if you do like the 18:9 aspect ratio, mate 10 pro imo sits in third place in such category behind s8+ and v30 (even with that amoled lottery)
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I also have a very close opinion.
But I'm a bit worried about battery life.
Non-pro is qhd and LCD. Probably, it's the most power hungry.
Anyone know how much SoT non-pro versions are getting?
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I also have a very close opinion.
But I'm a bit worried about battery life.
Non-pro is qhd and LCD. Probably, it's the most power hungry.
Anyone know how much SoT non-pro versions are getting?
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From what I have gathered through youtube (mostly spanish reviews) non pro is getting 4-6 hours of soton heavy usage with one reviewer pointing out that one of the latest updates improved battery life where his ~SOT on mate 10 went from ~4,5h to 5,5-6h of sot. Nothing special, but also not the worst of results.
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From what I have gathered through youtube (mostly spanish reviews) non pro is getting 4-6 hours of soton heavy usage with one reviewer pointing out that one of the latest updates improved battery life where his ~SOT on mate 10 went from ~4,5h to 5,5-6h of sot. Nothing special, but also not the worst of results.
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In comparison, do you know how much are getting the owners of Mate 10 Pro?
Battery life is very important to me.
Your information kind of let me a bit down, cause I heard that Mate 9 owners used to get 7-9h SoT.
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In settings you can change it from QHD to FHD so in the end it will be just like the Mate 9. That should help battery.
I ordered the non Pro version especially as you can hide the on screen navigation buttons and use the fingerprint sensor as gestures.
I voted for (and bought one) non pro because of its 16:9 ratio - screen is just wider and it's very helpfull for internet browsing etc. Looks and feels beautifully.
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I voted for (and bought one) non pro because of its 16:9 ratio - screen is just wider and it's very helpfull for internet browsing etc. Looks and feels beautifully.
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Where did you buy it from and which model do you have (Huawei Mate 10 ALP-L09, ALP-L29, ALP-AL00) ? How is the scrolling smoothness on it ? Like scrolling smoothness in add full xda when browsing with Chrome? Any choppiness? How is the overall feel in terms of performance, RAM management (app reloads) and so on?
I get the loss of SD card annoyance, though mainly just for ease of initial setup mostly. Headphone jacks never mattered to me though. I do prefer 16:9 but that ship has sailed and you get used to it (2:1) quickly enough. Resolution I don't get, past 1080P (or ratio equivalent) I think it is just a waste, a marketing gimmick that sucks power to no real advantage.
With the non Pro, the look with more traditional bezels and the home button is just dated to the point I can't get past it having used and S8+, Mix 2, and V30 the last several months.
So, all that said, the only real disappointment with the 10 Pro to me is the loss of SD card (and no wireless charging).
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From what I have gathered through youtube (mostly spanish reviews) non pro is getting 4-6 hours of soton heavy usage with one reviewer pointing out that one of the latest updates improved battery life where his ~SOT on mate 10 went from ~4,5h to 5,5-6h of sot. Nothing special, but also not the worst of results.
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I got 9 hrs after the first day.
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I got 9 hrs after the first day.
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Non Pro? Did you have it on QHD or dial it back to FHD?
I am tilted to the pro because form factor is important (fit in my hand and futuristic look) and that amoled display (and even the midnight blue color). External memory not an issue as I currently use a phone which has 128gb internal + extendable slot and yet its almost 70gb free and I have never had to use a memory card for past 1.5 years of using current phone.
Lack of headset Jack not a deal breaker and I'm hoping I can adapt to it. IP67 does not factor in my reason to buy pro. The front FP on regular could tilt me towards standard mate 10 as I have grown tired of lifting phone off my desk. But most reviewers seem to like the rear FP and I have never used a front FP on a big phone, so I have to think again about FP location.
And yea again I'm picky about form factor and build and so I'm not happy that the pro has a 0.7mm larger side bezels and more black border while the standard mate 10 has incredible small side bezels with black border almost not visible. Lol. Also the shriller loud speaker than standard mate 10.
All that said, its obvious that the pro version cannot be declared as a clear better deal and there is lot of give and take going on and the advantages of the pro are not too far apart from standard Mate 10. The Mate 10 pro to me really has to justify itself of the higher price tag (most will buy the 128 gb Mate 10 pro as there is no external memory). So I will only buy after holding both hands on side by side and seeing real advantage with pro version in form and display (and battery life).
Standard Mate 10. The deciding factor for me is LCD vs AMOLED. Yes, AMOLED looks amazing with it's saturation but the risk of burn in and degradation isn't worth it to me. I know the technology has improved over the years but both still occur, sometimes much sooner than expected.
Standard Mate 10 isn't available in most countries...
About battery live: normal use >> almost 2 full days with around 5-6 sot
Heavy use is ending the day with +/-30% left and around 8hours sot.
Non pro.
With the 10 you're basically bezel free anyway, unlike the OP5 and the HTC U11 - that skinny tall stuff is OK at first it seems, until you start using it.
Non-pro.
I prefer the non-pro version as well. I need the sdcard slot and audio jack.
If I change my P10 Plus, it will be for the Mate 10 Pro. As I see QHD as a waist of battery and resources and I like AMOLED and its colours, deep blacks and general battery friendliness. Also ergonomic are big plus to me. 128 GB storage is enough for me, especially since Google Photos backup works great I don't need SD Card. I am going wireless headphones and the headphone jack is not needed for me anymore.
Will wait few months and see how the display is holding and check the long term reviews.
I think I expected more from the camera and the AI thing as it was made a big deal of them and a lot of hype was created...
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If I change my P10 Plus, it will be for the Mate 10 Pro. As I see QHD as a waist of battery and resources and I like AMOLED and its colours, deep blacks and general battery friendliness. ...
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You do realise you can change it from QHD to FHD in settings and leave it like that for all your use?
Yes. But it is not the same. Read about it here on xda. Native 1080p kills downscaled 2K screen to 1080p as 2K to 1080p pushes the same amount of pixels, you can't change physically the nunber of pixels with downscaling. On 2K screen downscaled to 1080p there is almost no difference in battery life - search with google. Native 1080p amoled just kills 2K LCD on battery (even downscaled to 1080p).
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Non pro for the 16:9 screen ratio and sd card support.
Easy choice
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If this is asked, I didn't see it but I wanted to ask the guys using the P6 before I decide which way I'm going, are you happy with the 6 or would trade up for the P6 Pro?
And if so, I'm curious about why or why not?? The extra $300 is a little harder to swallow 2 months after buying a house in an inflating economy...
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If this is asked, I didn't see it but I wanted to ask the guys using the P6 before I decide which way I'm going, are you happy with the 6 or would trade up for the P6 Pro?
And if so, I'm curious about why or why not?? The extra $300 is a little harder to swallow 2 months after buying a house in an inflating economy...
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Telephoto lens
Bigger screen
Mm wave for 5g
They're the why's, for me I wouldn't touch it because I have an irrational hatred of curved screens, they turn me into the Hulk. Oneplus 7t Pro and 8 Pro taught me that.
I love the 6, it has some niggles (fp sensor for starters) but overall it's good
I haven't seen a 6 Pro yet but the 6 is about as big a phone as I would be comfortalbe with. Nothing about the Pro would make me want to have a phone bigger and heavier than the 6. (Note I always use a case)
I've been using a P6 for the weekend and I know I would have used the telephoto lens a couple of times if I had it. Either one would be the biggest phone I've ever had and the P6 (without a case for the moment) isn't too bad in my pocket. I have no preconceived notions about flat vs curved screens and I use the front camera maybe a dozen times in a year. I am having a wifi turning off issue on the 6 so tackling that first. If I have to swap the phone because of the wifi turning off and Pro was available I'd probably pay the extra and take the Pro.
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I've been using a P6 for the weekend and I know I would have used the telephoto lens a couple of times if I had it. Either one would be the biggest phone I've ever had and the P6 (without a case for the moment) isn't too bad in my pocket. I have no preconceived notions about flat vs curved screens and I use the front camera maybe a dozen times in a year. I am having a wifi turning off issue on the 6 so tackling that first. If I have to swap the phone because of the wifi turning off and Pro was available I'd probably pay the extra and take the Pro.
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I've been using my p6 for 6 days now and I'm loving it! I am thankful to not have a bad screen (at least not noticeably bad enough to rma but also not quite as good as my OnePlus 6t) and I haven't had these wifi issues you're mentioning. I didn't copy any data over from previous phone just set it up as new and manually added accounts and apps. Sometimes I feel this will introduce little software bugs that could be like what you're describing? Might give it a reset and try again?
As to the question, I would have liked the p6pro but I've never spent more than $250 on a phone (got them all used in the past) so this was already the most expensive phone I've owned and couldn't justify the extra expensive for just a telephoto camera.
To me the 6P is just to big. Hell the 6 is too big but I'll live with it. I don't mind how tall it is but I do wish it were a little narrower. That's what I loved about my OP8. In fact if it weren't for my desire to finally own a phone with a good camera I wouldn't have left the 8.
I went with the P6. Like you I simply couldn't bring myself to spend 50% more on the P6P. Sure it has some nicer features, but it simply isn't worth the 50% premium IMHO.
P6P Pros
- bigger screen: nice, but the P6 isn't a slouch either. I came from a 3a XL, so the P6 screen size was already an upgrade.
- telephoto lens: this is the one feature that I will truly miss, but in the end it just isn't worth the extra cost.
- mmWave 5g: unless you live in one of the largest cities in America AND frequent high density locations like sports arena and airports, this simply is a waste. mmWave techology is terribly short range and it is never going to be used as the primary backbone for 5g service. It is going to be/has been installed at these high density locations and that's it. AT&T and Verizon have both bought more mid range 5g frequencies now and will shifting their networks to these frequencies after realizing how poorly a mmWave 5g network was going to perform.
- 120hz screen refresh rate: unless you are coming from a phone that had 120hz, you aren't going to notice a difference using a 90hz refresh rate like the P6 has. If you are coming from a 120hz phone, you might be disappointed going down to a 90hz screen.
P6P Cons
- Battery: even with it's larger battery capacity, the P6P seems to have worse overall battery performance than the P6 (partly due to the mmWave modem and 120hz refresh rate)
- Cost: 50% more than the P6
Other factors
- Size: Personally 5mm on the height of the phone isn't a big deal. I laugh every time I read when someone says the P6 size is OK, but the P6P is HUGE! I'm like, "It's 5mm (half a centimeter) in height, that's it". The width (which is the only size that makes a difference as far as holding it in one hand) is basically the same between the P6 and P6P.
- Curved Screen: most people either love it or hate it. It's all personal preference. To me it's not a deciding factor one way or another.
I was planning on the Pro, but tried both out and am getting the 6. The telephoto is super nice on the Pro, but I found the curved screen really awful in the hand. A case might fix that, but would also block edge of screen. I thought about mmWave, which T-mobile theoretically has some in Seattle, is is really the mid-band stuff that is important with them. The 6 is just much nicer in the hand and I couldn't see a difference in resolution at arm's length.
The curved screen kills it for me.
I went to Best Buy and played with both for about 20 minutes the other day, along with my 4XL. First I used the pro, but as soon as I went to the 6 standard I knew that was it. The flat screen and the edges just make the 6 standard feel good in the hand.
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I went with the P6. Like you I simply couldn't bring myself to spend 50% on the P6P. Sure it has some nicer features, but it simply isn't worth the 50% premium IMHO.
P6P Pros
- bigger screen: nice, but the P6 isn't a slouch either. I came from a 3a XL, so the P6 screen size was already an upgrade.
- telephoto lens: this is the one feature that I will truly miss, but in the end it just isn't worth the extra cost.
- mmWave 5g: unless you live in one of the largest cities in America AND frequent high density locations like sports arena and airports, this simply is a waste. mmWave techology is terribly short range and it is never going to be used as the primary backbone for 5g service. It is going to be/has been installed at these high density locations and that's it. AT&T and Verizon have both bought more mid range 5g frequencies now and will shifting their networks to these frequencies after realizing how poorly a mmWave 5g network was going to perform.
- 120hz screen refresh rate: unless you are coming from a phone that had 120hz, you aren't going to notice a difference using a 90hz refresh rate like the P6 has. If you are coming from a 120hz phone, you might be disappointed going down to a 90hz screen.
P6P Cons
- Battery: even with it's larger battery capacity, the P6P seems to have worse overall battery performance than the P6 (partly due to the mmWave modem and 120hz refresh rate)
- Cost: 50% more than the P6
Other factors
- Size: Personally 5mm on the height of the phone isn't a big deal. I laugh every time I read when someone says the P6 size is OK, but the P6P is HUGE! I'm like, "It's 5mm (half a centimeter) in height, that's it". The width (which is the only size that makes a difference as far as holding it in one hand) is basically the same between the P6 and P6P.
- Curved Screen: most people either love it or hate it. It's all personal preference. To me it's not a deciding factor one way or another.
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I went to Best Buy and played with both for about 20 minutes the other day, along with my 4XL. First I used the pro, but as soon as I went to the 6 standard I knew that was it. The flat screen and the edges just make the 6 standard feel good in the hand.
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I think I'm gonna do that this weekend and see how they feel. THat extra $300 bucks is a tough pill to swallow for only a handful of differences
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I think I'm gonna do that this weekend and see how they feel. THat extra $300 bucks is a tough pill to swallow for only a handful of differences
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I actually was thinking I would get the pro, but using them both in person changed my decision pretty quick. The 6 just felt way more "Pixel" than the pro.
I'm in the mix to possibly buy a P6 , but I'm curious what phone you're leaving behind. Plus, how has the new phone compared or not?
Galaxy S9.
So far, I'm happy with the Pixel 6 - my biggest issues have been the menu differences (coming from Android 10) and I'll admit I'm missing a couple of the features of Samsung's One UI.
Pixel 3a XL. Nearly identical overall size, but the P6 screen is much bigger (smaller bezels) and nicer. Overall the camera performance is slightly better, but having the wide angle lens is really nice. I also believe that Google will continue to tweak the software for the new camera chip and make the performance better over time. The fact that they were able to match the performance of the older camera chip (that they have been tweaking on for 3+ years) on release day is pretty amazing.
I've always purchased mid-price phones. I simply cannot bring myself to spend $1000 or more on a phone that regardless of how good it is, will need to be replaced in a few years. The price difference between the Pixel "A" series phone and the P6 was small enough and the extra features of the P6 were good enough that I decided it was worth the extra money to buy the P6. I would not however spend the extra $$ on a P6P over a P6.
I'm 100% satisfied with my upgrade and would make the same decision again after using the P6 since release day.
PS - I have zero issues with the finger print reader. I'm not running a screen protector at this time (but would like to). I have only saved each finger once as well as there has been no need to save it multiple times. I probably have a 95% first scan success rate.
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Galaxy S9.
So far, I'm happy with the Pixel 6 - my biggest issues have been the menu difference coming from Android 10 (and I'll admit I'm missing a couple of the features of Samsung's One UI).
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Cool, you won't miss the bloatware
Lg Wing. Only because my hand was forced due to no more support. The phone itself was great. I hate Samsung and Apple. Motorola is basically garbage. One plus is too expensive for what I'm willing to pay, after a year on TMobile the 9pro was still above 1000. This left me with this phone as the only other reasonable choice. I am not the biggest fan so far.
Galaxy S20+.
OP8
Pixel 3... and I had a Nexus 6 before that. I love the carry size of the 3, but miss the screen of the Orca. The Pixel 6 is still narrower than the Nexus 6 was.
OP5
OP6T
Pixel 3a
OP6T
OP6T and OP8T. Great hardware. I was tired of waiting for updates.
P30 Pro. great phone but I'd broken screen, fprint reader and main mic. not economical to fix
From a OnePlus 6.
OP8
OP7T
Been rocking a Moto Z2 Force for quite awhile before this. One thing I find myself doing after owning Moto phones the past decade or so is the "chop-chop" flashlight activation. Was very convenient. Miss that feature. Oh, and it's uncrackable screen. It took a beating, got scared up...but never a crack.
pixel 5
Pixel 2.
I'll miss the size of the P2 and overall it was a solid 4 yrs of trouble free service. We'll see about the P6.