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So I'm in need of a new phone. Right now I'm using a redmi note 4 with custom roms.
What I'm looking for is a nice camera for the price, good speed for at least 2 years and nice design. Also custom roms
Is this worth getting at 350 euro for the 128gb against a S8 64gb 380 Euro. There's also the s7 edge at 200 euro. The s8 is used and I don't have any guarantee that they have not change somethings (like replacing display etc)
EvilMegaDroid said:
So I'm in need of a new phone. Right now I'm using a redmi note 4 with custom roms.
What I'm looking for is a nice camera for the price, good speed for at least 2 years and nice design. Also custom roms
Is this worth getting at 350 euro for the 128gb against a S8 64gb 380 Euro. There's also the s7 edge at 200 euro. The s8 is used and I don't have any guarantee that they have not change somethings (like replacing display etc)
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Bro trust me poco will be the best decision.
Guntas ROMANA said:
Bro trust me poco will be the best decision.
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Nice. One thing. I noticed that with most xiomi phones I owned. redmi 4a, note 4. Every one of them the camera is quite ****ty like just a little shake and it makes the image blurry.
Does that happen with poco?
EvilMegaDroid said:
Nice. One thing. I noticed that with most xiomi phones I owned. redmi 4a, note 4. Every one of them the camera is quite ****ty like just a little shake and it makes the image blurry.
Does that happen with poco?
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No bro nothing at all
EvilMegaDroid said:
Nice. One thing. I noticed that with most xiomi phones I owned. redmi 4a, note 4. Every one of them the camera is quite ****ty like just a little shake and it makes the image blurry.
Does that happen with poco?
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Yes blurry pictures can happen with this phone. I'm not much of a picture taker and didn't buy the phone for that purpose but I have experienced blurry pictures
Reborn.N said:
Yes blurry pictures can happen with this phone. I'm not much of a picture taker and didn't buy the phone for that purpose but I have experienced blurry pictures
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Does it happen offten. I mean comparing it to a s8 camera ( I know s8 has one of the best cameras around) would it be as good as 80% of it?
EvilMegaDroid said:
Does it happen offten. I mean comparing it to a s8 camera ( I know s8 has one of the best cameras around) would it be as good as 80% of it?
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No not often but it can happen. It's not really a deal breaker but the S8 I would say is the better phone because it's made by a better company, has a better screen (though smaller than the Poco) better 3rd party support. Yes the SOC is older than the SD845 bit all depends on what you want from a phone. I brought the Poco mainly because it has a headphone jack, a card slot and was in the price bracket of what I could afford and didn't want to buy a second hand phone
I replaced my s8 for the poco,the camera is decent if you use Gcam but of course is worse than the s8.
The battery life and the modding possibility are much better but you should decide what are you looking for in a phone before buying it.
The Samsung water resistance, wireless charging, amoled and NFC are hard to turn down, but a new F1 still wins in my book - bigger battery, better SoC, plus it's new
If you're looking for a camera phone, best look elsewhere. Not to say that the camera is bad, but do note this does not have OIS, only EIS. So if you have shaky hands you best use a camera stand or take multiple shots (it's easy to do that just hold the camera button). I have had good shots with this phone and I'm satisfied with it (since I don't care much about cam quality, I'm after the SD845, though the shots i took were ok for my tastes).
As said, if you're gonna use your phone for amateur photog, you need steady hands and possibly a stand, but for the price, the camera is great.
If you badly need an amazing camera, look at the s8 or possibly oneplus, but the Pocophone cam is decent. You can google some shots taken by other users for reference. Here is one I took from my dim room and see if it suits your needs.
mecoromeo said:
If you're looking for a camera phone, best look elsewhere. Not to say that the camera is bad, but do note this does not have OIS, only EIS. So if you have shaky hands you best use a camera stand or take multiple shots (it's easy to do that just hold the camera button). I have had good shots with this phone and I'm satisfied with it (since I don't care much about cam quality, I'm after the SD845, though the shots i took were ok for my tastes). I just want to take a few good pictures to show my workflow and be done with it while using a flagship phone performance.
As said, if you're gonna use your phone for amateur photog, you need steady hands and possibly a stand, but for the price, the camera is great.
If you badly need an amazing camera, look at the s8 or possibly oneplus, but the Pocophone cam is decent. You can google some shots taken by other users for reference. Here is one I took from my dim room and see if it suits your needs.
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To tell the truth I might take 10-15 pic a year so yeah not much of a camera guy. The reason I ask about the camera is because I'm a programmer and need some pics of my workflow so I though might as well take them with my new phone.
I will go for this only for the reason from where I am people here sell refurbished phones without saying it. A refurbished S8 (it might be) is worthless against a new phone. Also Xiomi is kind of known for custom roms.
ps: to the one saying S8 has better community. From what I could tell on xda the s8 didn't have much compared to xiomi phones ( I compared it to my note 4)
I have s8, s9+ and poco. Poco has the worst screen of all but not by that much comparing to s8, since it can be very bright and its viewing angles are fine. The camera using the gcam is adequate, better that stock s8, worst than s9+, but again it is adequate.
Performance is better on the poco, talking about daily activities at least, is more fluid and fast. Overall quality, is surprisingly adequate on poco, and since we all use case on our phones, more premium devices like the s8/s9 will brag a bit less. Last but not the least, unlocking the bootloader does not void the warranty for the poco, but its a different case for the samsungs.
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I have s8, s9+ and poco. Poco has the worst screen of all but not by that much comparing to s8, since it can be very bright and its viewing angles are fine. The camera using the gcam is adequate, better that stock s8, worst than s9+, but again it is adequate.
Performance is better on the poco, talking about daily activities at least, is more fluid and fast. Overall quality, is surprisingly adequate on poco, and since we all use case on our phones, more premium devices like the s8/s9 will brag a bit less. Last but not the least, unlocking the bootloader does not void the warranty for the poco, but its a different case for the samsungs.
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Since you mention performance, does androud stutter still occurs in flagships like poco f1? Like literally every android I had in hand (not many flagships though) has some kind of lag sometime.
Nope I would sell this for a s8 because it lacks so many features
Bad eis
No ois
No 60 fps in any mode
It's screen doesn't support real hdr its just plastic looking with very innaccurate colors.
The only purpose in upgrading would be the processor.
I think the only differences in this phone is that
The official dev community and the xda community are very active like posts each day.
But if you really want a phone for pubg this phone can handle it at hdr 60 fps 720p mode. It's viewing angles and lighting are about 75% of what you would get with an oled panel.
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Since you mention performance, does androud stutter still occurs in flagships like poco f1? Like literally every android I had in hand (not many flagships though) has some kind of lag sometime.
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For me, I haven't experienced any lags. I'm on pie now btw. My only issue is for some reason they removed the system option to hide the notch(not really an issue since I use nacho notch a 3rd party app to remove notch). Everything works fine for me. I can run simultaneous programs with no lags, I can play heavy games with no stutters and the rom community is amazing.
As for your camera usage, it takes clear pictures and is sufficient enough (I use it sparingly since I'm not a picture buff). I use it sometimes for document scanning and it's clear enough to show the letters in the docs. For selfie and family pics, it's nice and adequate, though you shouldn't compare it to phones who specifically target photo buffs since the main point of poco is SD845 and I can say it's fast and smooth. Though as mentioned photog is good and adequate to take clear photos for normal use
Some people say there are issues but I haven't experienced any of them at all. No touch lag, no screen bleed and the Poco team really has good aftersales since they respond and really converse with their consumers (see xiaomi forum app about latest updates with Poco and you will see they do acknowledge most of the issues, unlike some manufacturers). I'd say for the price it is a snatch and I do hope they launch more of these "flagship killers"
Almsot forgot, there is one more thing you should be wary of, the notifications. I think you already know this but notifications do not stay in the status bar, so if I were you, use this mod. It moves the clock up a bit sk that the notifications will stay below it:
https://mi-globe.com/miui-notch-notification-mod/?codename=beryllium
And for more info
https://mi-globe.com/miui-notification-icons-for-notch-phones/
I would always recommend buying anything other than Samsung but as a Poco user my advice is, skip both and buy Oneplus 6, if you can find it somewhere affordable
Hi. Anyone coming from F1? Care to share your experience?
The screen is the first thing that comes to mind, it's way better here. F1 screen was ok for IPS honestly and if you are afraid of burn ins and want to use max brightness all the time maybe it's better choice.
Battery life on Mi9T is obviously better. I can easily go two days. SD730 has pretty much same CPU performance but it's a lot more power efficient than 845. The GPU is a lot worse, like half as powerful but I don't play games so I don't really care, your experience might be different if you do.
Overall appearance of the device is a lot nicer. It's a very good looking phone while Poco looks like the plastic brick it is with a huge notch. Again just like the display if you care about long term durability maybe Poco is better. Glass breaks and if you put them in a case it doesn't matter how they look but if you care about looks there is no contest. Glass and metal sandwich phone looks really nice. This really does feel and look like a flagship phone.
The camera is also better. Maybe selfie camera is worse, I don't really use it but main camera is really good and it can take a lot more detail and you have a fun super wide camera as well. Gcam works really well too and it's just the beginning, it should get even better. I'm very satisfied.
Overall I think it's a minor upgrade. If you're happy with poco, honestly I'd stick with it until next year. I needed a phone with more LTE bands than poco had so I made the switch and I'm happy. Installed poco launcher too and it's just a better experience imo. Maybe get the mi9t pro version for a decent upgrade but that's seemingly pretty expensive. If K20 pro works for you go with that. Zenphone 6 looks good too but these were outside of my budget. I paid $330 for 128GB Mi9T shipped total with taxes etc and I'm honestly very satisfied, couldn't do better.
@HockeyLan
Thanks a lot for the input. I'm getting married and tight on budget lol that's why I can't consider Mi9tpro
I went from F1 to 9T as well.
Pros:
- better display that is easier to see in direct sunlight
- better build, less edges
- takes better pictures, videos too
- can do AOD if you prefer that
- easier to unlock imo with the on-screen fingerprint
Cons:
- worse speaker, it's louder but has less low frequency volume
- no notification LED, the one up top is useless tbh
- the xiaomi.eu rom I'm using is laggy at times, but this is solely a software issue
A wash:
- performance is the same, i ran tests with both next to eachother, as long as the storage isn't used too much, as the Poco has a faster storage
- battery life is similar for me, I was using different OS' so I can't really say
Overall I would say this is definitely an upgrade for the right price.
@In_a_state
Thanks a lot for the info. Helps me alot.
Do you use chrome? If so does the phone get warm or hot?
I use TugaBrowser for years now as I like its gestures and tabs placement.
The phone doesn't get warmer than the Pocophone, I'd argue it's a bit cooler.
One more miscellaneous point: I prefer the Pocophone case as it's a tad grippier, and looks a bit better to me. The matte case of the Mi9T hides the lovely black back completely and also has upper and lower cuts - the Poco case was more of a full phone case which I prefer.
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I use TugaBrowser for years now as I like its gestures and tabs placement.
The phone doesn't get warmer than the Pocophone, I'd argue it's a bit cooler.
One more miscellaneous point: I prefer the Pocophone case as it's a tad grippier, and looks a bit better to me. The matte case of the Mi9T hides the lovely black back completely and also has upper and lower cuts - the Poco case was more of a full phone case which I prefer.
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Thanks. I'm pretty oversensitive when it comes to phone heating up so you made my choice a lot easier.
I usually use the phone caseless as I'm mostly indoors person.
I switched From PocoPhone F1 to Mi 9T Global.
I had Poco, which my wife still uses, and now I have Mi9t.
Build: Mi9t feels nicer, but it also heavier, I would say Poco is a lot easier to handle.
Performance: pretty much the same, won't notice any difference.
Battery life: the same, had some problems on Mi9t depending on the Miui version, but both around 9/10 hrs sot
Screen: Depends, amoled has nice blacks, Lcd has nice whites. Using mi9t's dark mode didn't have much advantage on battery life to be honest. Also it seems I can't completely disable adaptive brightness, while it's set to manual it also increases brightness in direct sunlight, but not every time, so I would call it buggy.
Touch: Mi9t for sure, Poco had problems with it and was never completely fixed
Fingerprint: Poco all the way, in-screen fps are just bad, and I'm not even using it on Mi9t
Camera: Mi9t has better stock camera, but if you like to use Gcam, then Poco all the way. Poco's gcam ports work like a dream, better than any other phone I had, feels like a native camera app.
Conclusion: I would say, no need to upgrade, better wait until a new phone arrives.
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The screen is the first thing that comes to mind, it's way better here. F1 screen was ok for IPS honestly and if you are afraid of burn ins and want to use max brightness all the time maybe it's better choice.
Battery life on Mi9T is obviously better. I can easily go two days. SD730 has pretty much same CPU performance but it's a lot more power efficient than 845. The GPU is a lot worse, like half as powerful but I don't play games so I don't really care, your experience might be different if you do.
Overall appearance of the device is a lot nicer. It's a very good looking phone while Poco looks like the plastic brick it is with a huge notch. Again just like the display if you care about long term durability maybe Poco is better. Glass breaks and if you put them in a case it doesn't matter how they look but if you care about looks there is no contest. Glass and metal sandwich phone looks really nice. This really does feel and look like a flagship phone.
The camera is also better. Maybe selfie camera is worse, I don't really use it but main camera is really good and it can take a lot more detail and you have a fun super wide camera as well. Gcam works really well too and it's just the beginning, it should get even better. I'm very satisfied.
Overall I think it's a minor upgrade. If you're happy with poco, honestly I'd stick with it until next year. I needed a phone with more LTE bands than poco had so I made the switch and I'm happy. Installed poco launcher too and it's just a better experience imo. Maybe get the mi9t pro version for a decent upgrade but that's seemingly pretty expensive. If K20 pro works for you go with that. Zenphone 6 looks good too but these were outside of my budget. I paid $330 for 128GB Mi9T shipped total with taxes etc and I'm honestly very satisfied, couldn't do better.
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Agree, Zenfone 6 ticks most of the boxes for a perfect smartphone...
Just migrated from the Poco F1 to this and I don't regret it one bit. The Poco just looks horrendous with that massive notch.
i sold the pocophone and was planned to buy an mi9t pro but got scammed and got a mi9t instead. the whole phone seems better and i love the screen and the build quality but also the pop up camera. amoled is definitely better and battery life on dark mode is great. only one almost unnoticiable downgrade is the cpu and it is only revelant in games ( used to play resident evil 4 on dolphin emulator and snapdragon 845 was faster ) but i haven t played the game for long times. not that much. i don t regret switching, i can only observe there is not an immense activity in development for this phone here on xda.
I too went from Poco to Mi9T and I am generally pleased with the change. However I still have to see if I can sell the Poco on eBay to recoup some of the cost.
The stock Poco was a good phone for me and I prefer the rear finger print sensor. For my use I didn't need great processor power so I didn't notice any difference in performance between the two phones.
Comparing stock cameras then the Mi9T is better. The Mi9T has a notification LED as such but it is on the top and around the pop up selfie camera and you can only see it lit up from looking down on the top of the phone so not very handy. I like the ambient display and it's good to be able to see the time and a notification at a glance. I say notification singular, as it doesn't seem to be able to show any other notifications except for Gmail. I am grateful to have NFC capability again as I find using this with Google Pay is very convenient for me.
If the Poco had an ambient display and NFC I think I couldn't justify the change of phone to myself. At the end of the day a lot depends on what the individual needs his phone to do most of the time.
I went from the Poco
I do not regret my purchase
Nice amoled display. No notch. All notifications in statubar
For me same performance for a mormal use. I'm not a gamer ...
Better stock camera
I just regret the Poco notifications led
Same battery life
Hello,
I've had every pixel since launch and, whilst the phones have been underwhelming, I absolutely love the point and shoot camera quality so can forgive the sub par hardware features. I hold a good camera above other things like screen res, waterproof, size, etc etc.
The pixel 4 is the first time I've seen a Pixel and thought meh. Yes the camera(s) are upgrade this time, but not quite enough. I would still take a Pixel4 but the reduction is battery is seriously bugging me, as my 3 is a bit limp in the battery department. But most of all I can't stomach the Google Photo back up offer no longer running. This was a prime selling point, as I'm sure any with kids knows, you take a lot of snaps! Having free orignal quality backups was really nice.
All this is leading me to jump ship and not get a Pixel 4. But what is there? Huawei have seriously good cameras, I had P20 pro for 2 weeks, but their UI is more than terrible and booloader unlock + ROM support is next to non existent. Samsung insist on the crappy SoC compared to the Snapdragon offering, plus their cameras are good but a step back compared to pixels. Oneplus make everything is awesome phones, but are alway below average in their cameras.
Just not sure really, may stick with the P3 and see what happens in the next 2 years
EggZenBeanz said:
Hello,
I've had every pixel since launch and, whilst the phones have been underwhelming, I absolutely love the point and shoot camera quality so can forgive the sub par hardware features. I hold a good camera above other things like screen res, waterproof, size, etc etc.
The pixel 4 is the first time I've seen a Pixel and thought meh. Yes the camera(s) are upgrade this time, but not quite enough. I would still take a Pixel4 but the reduction is battery is seriously bugging me, as my 3 is a bit limp in the battery department. But most of all I can't stomach the Google Photo back up offer no longer running. This was a prime selling point, as I'm sure any with kids knows, you take a lot of snaps! Having free orignal quality backups was really nice.
All this is leading me to jump ship and not get a Pixel 4. But what is there? Huawei have seriously good cameras, I had P20 pro for 2 weeks, but their UI is more than terrible and booloader unlock + ROM support is next to non existent. Samsung insist on the crappy SoC compared to the Snapdragon offering, plus their cameras are good but a step back compared to pixels. Oneplus make everything is awesome phones, but are alway below average in their cameras.
Just not sure really, may stick with the P3 and see what happens in the next 2 years
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same, I won't get p4, I love compact phones (so 4xl is not an option) and battery life in small p4 is going to be ridicolous lol. I love my p3, just wish it had more battery life, that was the only downside and they didn't correct it in p4, actually I think they made it worse :crying: why the **** aren't they making the phone 1-2mm thicker but with bigger batteries? really can't understand, I think everyone would prefer a little thicker phone but with better battery life...
also not having original backup is incredible, have a kid here too and need best quality for my millions pictures lol.
really can't get what they are doing... other thing I don't like is the fingerprint gone...
my top priorities for a phone are compact size, great cam quality and battery life.. so considering the alternatives around I think i'll stick with the p3 for some long time lol... also considering I hate as well notches, punch holes and similar and huawei and samsung's horrible UI
Oh my lord I didn't even think about Fingerprint scanner. Just reading a review about it, no scanner and face unlock that is a bit wonky. I'm definitely out then.
Seeing I went from a Nexus 6 to the Pixel 3, I think there is a Pixel 7 in my future. They should have messed up then fixed things a couple of times by then.
Hey folks,
I have decided to try out pixel phones for the first time, even since nexus one I always wanted a Google phone especially with Nexus or pixel 5 those were right up my alley, but I never got in to it untill now. I keep on reading how good the camera is, how amazing everything is so I decided to give it a go. A little background, I love switching phones constantly, I have been using all sorts of phones, from LG, htc, iphone, a lot of samsungs, OnePlus, Huawei etc. My last phone was a Samsung note 20 ultra and I loved it, but that exynos battery and that curved screen just ... Awful. Anyhow ... I got a pixel 6 (not the pro, because I had enough of curved screens, horrible idea, and I am fed up with it) and so far so good. Here are my thoughts:
The good:
The camera looks baller, I am still experimenting with it, but so far so good I am impressed. I don't really do a lot of videos, so my main focus is the main camera and since I only care about ultra wide that too, I don't really care about telephoto.
build quality is good
the sound is good
the display is great(having in mind I am coming off a note 20 ultra, that is saying a lot)
the software is AMAZING Soo smooth it's great(although I do not use most of the things like assistant etc I love the whole package).
The bad or "meh":
the camera again ... I was comparing it with my note 20 ultra, and so far a years old phone that was not really in the competition was making on par photos if not better in some cases(I have to do more personal research here), and I compared it to a Huawei p40 pro with my friend ... (Again more than a year old phone) and I am astonished that that phone did some photos better and some were on par. We were comparing the main sensor only in normal light and at night. So this is some food for thoughts. -The build quality is good but this is the slipiest phone I have ever had in my life. And I am coming off of a note 20 ultra!!! This phone can't even stand on your lap without slipping away or in your pocket in the car. You MUST buy a skin or a case. This is a major no no for me as when I buy a phone for this kind of money I expect to be able to look at it and feel it, and not feel the case.
the software is amazing but very VERY restrictive and lacking in terms of raw baked in features compared to any other major brand. For example, you can't really customize your screen ... You have two big elements (search and at a glance) that can't be removed so they are taking 1/4 of your screen for no reason, this reminds me of Bixby on Samsung ...), Second Samsung phones have much much more information under battery info, for some reason here you have less... And similar stuff. -the battery (this might get better with time ... But I ain't holding my breath as underneath this chip there is Samsung) ... Right now I have 3.7h SOT with most of the time on 100% brightness last 20% I put adaptive with 60 Hz and my phone is on 18% now. 5his is my book is not good... Samsung exynos NOT GOOD.
Overall ... I love the phone so far, and I will be giving it much more needed time and see if I can change any of the bad like battery and camera in time be it if it adapts and if software updates change things. But whoever is looking at this phone and is on the fences bottom line is this is a good phone, and it's worth it in my book
Hi. I was looking to buy a couple of Nord 2s, since imo they seemed like good value. Anyone has any experience with the phone, and do you like it? I saw on some forums that they also say the phone is plagued with issues like apps crashing, false full storage errors and false SD card errors (even though it doesnt take an SD card). Has anyone had these negative experiences?
Looking forward to hear your thoughts.
By the way, we are not attached to OnePlus, maybe you have better suggestions. I just thought the phone represented good value for money at the price
great phone
I'm pretty happy with this phone. Big downsides of that phone is lack of one handed mode (but it should come with a12 upgrade, yes, it's still on Android 11) and other apps than stock camera have no access to ultra wide camera (people say that eis is not working on ultra wide but I didn't check). Solid phone but I regret not getting Samsung a52s, performance except games is similar and I do not play games but Samsung got 4 big updates and 5 years security compared to 2 and 3 with Nord 2. Updates are every other month, so also worse here than Samsung. Biggest downside for me and my regret is that support time.
Good day
What i like:
Dimensity1200 (fast);
Charging (Jesus, it is ultra fast!!)
Screen
Battery life
What i DON'T like:
Vibration - bad, samsung 10 times better
Camera - i don't like, especiali at night photos
Contacts and Caller apps(googles) really bad. You can download from googleplay, but this is not helps so much.
Before this phone i was on Samsung, next phone will be Samsung.
One day i look videos from galaxy note 9, and it was more times better than in Nord 2 5g on same resollutions. Like in Xiaomi a lot pixels in cameras, but no quality....
If you're considering to buy nord 2 just... just don't. Hardware is quite OK but it's let down by crappy, buggy, subpar software.
Camera is mostly like a kids' waterpainting. GCam helps a little but do not expect miracles. Cheaper phones produce much better images.
Oh yeah bluetooth doesn't work properly either.
I regret that I didn't go for a52s. System is working pretty ok, best experience in Android so far. More buggy than iOS of course.
Charging is awesome.
I was also complaining on photos, especially in night but when you turn on AI on photo it is making way better photos in night or closed rooms. There is also 3 second night photo which is also good thing. Not bad. Vibration is OK, not best but certainly not bad.