what do u all think about the trial version of windows 11 ??
Is anyone else using it ?
windows 10 I think sucked ass for flashing phones
James-719 said:
what do u all think about the trial version of windows 11 ??
Is anyone else using it ?
windows 10 I think sucked ass for flashing phones
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Welcome to XDA,
Personally I like more Windows 10, less hassle if you don't have a new computer.
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what do u all think about the trial version of windows 11 ??
Is anyone else using it ?
windows 10 I think sucked ass for flashing phones
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I've installed and running official Windows 11 ( not any trial version ) and I'm very content with it.
BTW: Windows 11 comes with less bloatware than Windows 10. Nevertheless I've debloated it
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will say have among other things disabled all Telemetry services that take up a huge amount of resources in the background.
Bought a Surface Pro 8 with it. I like it, MS has done a god job improving the tablet/touch experience and improving the UI, without ruining it for desktop use like their attempt with Win 8.
Still, some quirks in the touch experience where it's not quite as seamless as Android, I hope they keep working on that.
Windows 11 is really good but not if you just have a 4GB ram device.
Earlier it was even worse. Usage used to go till 90% or so but now with some apps uninstalled, its better.
When idle, usage is 60-70%
With Windows 10, I never had any much issues.
Also I used to love the taskbar on left or top more than bottom, but Microsoft fixed what wasn't broken!
Windows 11 is awesome, much better than Windows 10. I wouldn't necessarily say that it is the best Windows version overall, but I will say that it's cleaner, less bloated, and easier to do most things, especially in tweaking, modding, and fine-tuning certain features.
There's still some things I gripe about, like the constant push for people to use Microsoft Edge, and Windows Update forcing you to download and install updates every Tuesday (when there's the potential of installing a bad update). However, that was true in Windows 10 too, so Win 11 is still the better of the two.
James-719 said:
what do u all think about the trial version of windows 11 ??
Is anyone else using it ?
windows 10 I think sucked ass for flashing phones
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I don't like Windows 11, but Windows 10 is great.
I believe Windows 10 is still the best I tried windows 11 but not satisfied :/
I start using it from pre-release on beta channel. It works more smooth than Windows 10. Now with final release I am really confident on it.
More option, beautiful interface design, incredible stability (from beta version), an amazing compatibility on drivers with Windows 10 and, not the last, less resources consumption than 10.
My big surprise was many options in settings were completely re-designed as whole Settings interface.
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I start using it from pre-release on beta channel. It works more smooth than Windows 10. Now with final release I am really confident on it.
More option, beautiful interface design, incredible stability (from beta version), an amazing compatibility on drivers with Windows 10 and, not the last, less resources consumption than 10.
My big surprise was many options in settings were completely re-designed as whole Settings interface.
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I too am in beta and tbh there are almost no bugs at all! I also found that performance is better with beta version.
Windows 11 is certainly getting better because of the updates specially January 2022 update. For a gaming perspective there's not much to say or much gain either.
Always hated Windows 10 - and resisted it for as long as I possibly could. W11 fixes nearly all of the things that bugged me in W10.
Effectively, I'm going from W7 to W11. Looks better, feels more orthogonal.
PROVIDED you install StartALL to get rid of the horrendous 'Start' thing...
Windows 11 Home Version official
and to me its nicer than window 10
it has some minor bugs but i still prefer it on windows 10
i also installed windows subsystem for Android and so far its really great
The major change is in UI part I know there are a lot changed and as android is also molded in it but still as a normal person major change is UI and as a software engineer there's a lot have been changed and now you can have better control to your OS
I think windows 11 is better than windows 10. For example, animation is added to the menu bar。
Windows 11 is better for me. Aside from a couple of bugs which I resolved fairly easy it's working great. The only thing I really miss is the folder preview thumbnails and ability to drag the task bar around. I regularly used to drag it from bottom, top, left, all around. Can't do that anymore. have to edit registry and restart which is a shame.
the yield of 10 wines is higher than 11 or 8.1. the appearance of the 11th is prettier, but the lack of a dark theme in 8.1 is a loss.
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the yield of 10 wines is higher than 11 or 8.1. the appearance of the 11th is prettier, but the lack of a dark theme in 8.1 is a loss.
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Damn miss those days when I use Win 8.1. Good times. Metro UI is still the best tho not gonna lie.
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Damn miss those days when I use Win 8.1. Good times. Metro UI is still the best tho not gonna lie.
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Damn Read and Write in 8.1 is damn good. Didn't notice tho at first
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HP was emailing out surveys to a select few people people with questions such as, "How satisfied are you with your HP TouchPad?", "What do you want more of?" and, "How much did you pay for your TouchPad?”
Looks like it's full steam ahead for HP, lest we forget, HP is, in fact the largest PC maker in the world, they decided to keep their PC division, that means tablets too. And things haven't been slowing down for them either. First it was the Slate 2, then the Envy Laptop, and now there's rumors of a new TouchPad.
nice renders....
but if there is anything then it would be running windows 8 or something.
I got that survey too----i wouldn't read that much into it. It'd be nice, but I can't see them reversing themselves again
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HP was emailing out surveys to a select few people people with questions such as, "How satisfied are you with your HP TouchPad?", "What do you want more of?" and, "How much did you pay for your TouchPad?”
Looks like it's full steam ahead for HP, lest we forget, HP is, in fact the largest PC maker in the world, they decided to keep their PC division, that means tablets too. And things haven't been slowing down for them either. First it was the Slate 2, then the Envy Laptop, and now there's rumors of a new TouchPad.
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Dunno, looks pretty good, Microsoft may buy webOS to avoid other companies obtaining the patents. Microsoft has been rumored to be purchasing webOS patents, leading to what some believe to be a webOS/Microsoft hybrid.
http://www.informationweek.com/byte/commentary/personal-tech/tablets/231600600
This is a good thing because Microsoft wouldn't necessarily have to buy the patents outright. Whitman has already mentioned a "TouchPad 2.0" and I think the TP is deserving of a second chance now more than ever.
Web site from China mainland ?! how many % can be trust .......hahahaha........
Those images - photoshoppery fakishness.
Ask yourself. Has HP not been on the ball lately? New Slate. (Which is lovely by the way) New Laptop(s). Press Conferences. Site redesigns...
New slate? The Slate 2 is just a HP Slate 500 with a better gpu, and slower cpu, with the rest of the specs essentially the same(well its using a slightly newer n-trig digitizer, but nothing to make a current 500 upgrade). It has a lot of Slate 500 owner actually bothered that it took HP a year to bring out something that is more of the same, and didn't even wait to use the newer Atom N2800 cpu. Can't really say that a company on the ball, just a company not sure what to do until the consumer reaction to Windows 8 comes out.
This stuff is all made up, there is no way Microsoft would be involved in making some "Hybrid" of Windows 8, it's doesn't make any sense, Windows 8 and WebOS are competing platforms, they are not complementary to each other in the least. Also why would it be the Touchpad 3, there has only been one generation of the Touchpad.
Edit: a little bit of Googling reveals that no one else is talking about this, OP is creating his own "news".
There has been a 2nd Gen TouchPad, it was the 7-inch TouchPad Go.
https://www.google.com/#hl=en&cp=18....,cf.osb&fp=fc2de84c48e55787&biw=1366&bih=638
Usually, they run stories like this on Monday. It IS the weekend, but, nobody knows about this yet.
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It IS the weekend, but, nobody knows about this yet.
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Are you lonely?
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No, lol but if anything else comes up, be sure to let us know and I'll be keeping my eyes open too for the next thing!
Looks pretty nice... for that is most likely a made up device. At this point I think it all BS and/or wishful thinking.
How much do we really know about Windows 8 being tested on TouchPads?
Nobody ever said anything about that story and it's everywhere.
But that's besides the point: Are you telling me that, when the whole Windows 8 tablet evolution happens, that HP, the biggest PC maker in the world, is not going to make a tablet with Windows 8 on it for consumers?
Now, that would be crazy. It was wise for HP to halt production of the TP1, Windows 8 is right around the corner.
I bet the TP3 is already made.
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How much do we know about Windows 8 being tested on the TouchPads? Nobody ever shot them down. Are you telling me that, when the whole Windows 8 tablet evolution happens, that HP, the biggest PC maker in the world, is not going to make a tablet with Windows 8 on it for consumers?
Now, that would be crazy. It was wise for HP to halt production of the TP1, Windows 8 is right around the corner.
I bet the TP3 is already made.
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From the data in the image you uploaded it would appear that you just created it in Photoshop and it's a bad Photoshop at that.
Stop trolling.
None of that is even the topic at hand lol,
It's part of the whole process when a device is produced, all screen images are simulated. Have you seen a Galaxy Tab commercial lately or a Nokia commercial, or any commercials?? lol
I digress ...
I'd like Windows 8 tablets as is, but integrated webOS sounds like a really good idea, since Microsoft was supposed to have been purchasing the patents anyway.
The question is: Would the TP3 be able to compete with the iPad 3? Of course.
HP would have an excuse to sell it at a high price point. Microsoft gets those patents to save their OS from being a bunch of boring blocks, and suffering the same fate as their Windows phones. So it works for everybody, on the corporate side at least lol!
Sure HP may make a Window 8 tablet, but that as nothing to do with WebOS or the TouchPad.
I'm patient and for the new tablet, and not shoot it down so quickly.
HP may be deciding how exactly this is supposed to play out. Is it going to be dual boot, is it going to be hybrid, what new features it will have..
They've mentioned the possibility of webOS becoming part of their product line as in computers and tablets, but everything they've said, has all been in support of it, so I like what I see.
Honestly, I'm more excited for this than I am for them continuing webOS just by itself. It's more than profitable for them.
I will keep you informed and I will update you.
Windows Phone 7.8 Update Features Revealed, Current WP Users Won’t Be Disappointed
When Microsoft finally got around to announcing Windows Phone 8, users of current WP7.x were left a little disappointed by the lack of support for any current devices. As disheartening as the move was for some, it was a necessary way for Microsoft to really move on, since Windows Phone 8 will offer support for more powerful, dual-core devices – something which will undoubtedly be hindered by the support for older hardware.
To try and keep the peace, the Redmond company offered a meet-in-the-middle release in the form of Windows Phone 7.8, which, among other features, will offer the new variably-sized home screen tiles, allowing more to fit within the display.
As has been the cased with most of the software maker’s announcements over the past few months, some key detail were purposely left out with regards to what WP7.8 will bring, but now some of those features are beginning to emerge.
A leaked document has emerged via SmartPhoneFrance offers quite a few juicy details, specifically with regards to some new camera functions. The document is reported to have arrived courtesy of Finnish outfit Nokia, so its contents may not necessarily be true to each and every Windows Phone device, although a large proportion of WP7.x users are rocking one of the company’s popular Lumia devices.
The leak states Windows Phone 7 users will be treated to a greatly-improved camera app featuring Smart Group Shot, action shot, panorama and self-timer functionality. In addition, Wi-Fi tethering will also be a feature of Windows Phone 7.8, which allows one to tether a device’s Internet connection with other devices – particularly handy if you’re constantly on-the-fly. Wi-Fi hot-spots are becoming more and more common in built-up areas, but the ability to have the Web available at all times will be an invaluable tool to the majority of Windows Phone users.
Other features include a function which silences incoming calls, messages and alarms by flipping the device over, but even so, there’re still plenty of disadvantages next to the all-singing, all-dancing Windows Phone 8. Proper multi-tasking, NFC, OTA updates, Internet Explorer 10, and the aforementioned multi-core support, to name a few, and the main event will arrive at the end of October along with the main Windows 8 and the Microsoft Surface slate.
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Only someone with a brain the size of a pea would post this as news when there is no news.
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The leak states Windows Phone 7 users will be treated to a greatly-improved camera app featuring Smart Group Shot, action shot, panorama and self-timer functionality. In addition, Wi-Fi tethering will also be a feature of Windows Phone 7.8, which allows one to tether a device’s Internet connection with other devices – particularly handy if you’re constantly on-the-fly.
Other features include a function which silences incoming calls, messages and alarms by flipping the device over, but even so, there’re still plenty of disadvantages next to the all-singing, all-dancing Windows Phone 8.
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I made everything bold that is already present on my Lumia. There is nothing really new here. Lets wait for an official announcement, I am particularly interested if and how API changes will be managed between 7.8 and 8.
My next phone will be Nokia with Windows Phone 8/7.8 I'll ditch my lg500 android gladly
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Only someone with a brain the size of a pea would post this as news when there is no news.
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And this "someone with a brain the size of a pea" ****s you idiot, not everybody knows everything about this!
Well, since you basically present this as 'news' and WP 7.8 features there is a point to be made you have not done your homework on this and to be frank make yourself look a bit silly to say the least by posting it the way you did. Your information is old and incorrect. These are Lumia specific apps and nothing about this is either leaked, related to WP7.8 or news at this time.
While it _might_ be possible these features will become part of WP7.8 for all device and not just Nokia that would seem unlikely at this point. You would also do good to link to your source URL as in the current form your post has a very high 'out of thumb' feeling to it.
Nice post, but these updates already arrived in WP7.5, all except the new homescreen are already here
I agree with 'Detection'. Except the homescreen everythings already here. That is not comforting. Although the homescreen will be quite a makeover. Sometimes i do wonder what advantages will the actual windows 8 user get...
Hahaha....
Still u dont have these features... i have in my wp7.5
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What the original poster describes as 'WP7.8 features' have nothing to do with WP7.8 or even Microsoft except for the start screen. They are all additional features/apps offered by Nokia to users of the Lumia series of Windows Phones once they have updated to WP7.5 CR3 (Tango).
Right now we know two things about WP7.8; It will be available some time _after_ the release of Windows Phone 8 and it will offer the WP8 start screen. Other that that we do not know of any additional features or extras.
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It is generally expected Microsoft will officially announce WP8 on September 5 in New York during a shared press event with Nokia. It is also expected Nokia in turn will announce two or three Windows Phone 8 devices there and at Nokia World 2012 which is held in Finland September 5-6. The flagship Nokia store is currently being overhauled with huge signs saying as much as to expect something big September 7. If Nokia were to pull off an immediate availability of one or more devices that would be huge.
Personally I would expect a Lumia 800 style model as low-end(800x480) with more memory but no SD card slot, a 900 model midrange(1280x720) also no SD but more memory, a new model featuring PureView technology and possibly a Samsung Note type model. High-end quad core devices are not expected this year.
The 800 and 900 style models might actually have an SD card built in, so not user replaceable.
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Thanks PG101!.. It worked well in the Nexus 7 forum.. It's worth a shot.
So.. Anyone else get teased with 60+ degree weather today only to have it drop 30 degrees a day later?
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Thanks PG101!.. It worked well in the Nexus 7 forum.. It's worth a shot.
So.. Anyone else get teased with 60+ degree weather today only to have it drop 30 degrees a day later?
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Today was somewhat nice for me in the morning, so I figured I'd open all my windows, then about 10 minutes after that it downpours with heavy winds... quite a bit of stuff got wet lol. The wind and rain stopped maybe 20 mins later.
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Today was somewhat nice for me in the morning, so I figured I'd open all my windows, then about 10 minutes after that it downpours with heavy winds... quite a bit of stuff got wet lol. The wind and rain stopped maybe 20 mins later.
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I'm getting all that downpouring rain, and heavy winds as we speak.. Just hope it's over by morning. I got a 8:30 dentist appointment
they just shut down the OT thread in many other forums, much drama ensued
And as I mention in the op.. "lets give this a shot"..
This is like beta testing...
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any news on Dalingrin's progress on dual booting ubuntu and android on N10?
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any news on Dalingrin's progress on dual booting ubuntu and android on N10?
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Haven't heard much... I can't imagine it running much better on the Nexus 10 than it did on the Nexus 7 anyway.. It... Ran... But to say it was usable as a daily driver would be a bold faced lie.. I'm curious how much they can actually trim the fat off Ubuntu without completely making it unrecognizable as a linux distribution.
lol
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Haven't heard much... I can't imagine it running much better on the Nexus 10 than it did on the Nexus 7 anyway.. It... Ran... But to say it was usable as a daily driver would be a bold faced lie.. I'm curious how much they can actually trim the fat off Ubuntu without completely making it unrecognizable as a linux distribution.
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I can't imagine Ubuntu as-is on the N10... on one hand, it might be better because of the bigger screen, but I would also imagine stuff being super tiny due to the resolution. Maybe with a keyboard and mouse though... hmm
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I've tried that surgeon simulator and it really does have the absolute worst control ever.
Here's another gameplay of the surgeon simulator.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2XkTIYhQC8
This video was absolutely hilarious. I couldn't stop laughing.
I finally completed a successful transplant.. The game gets old fast though.
Currently in south Africa watching the Africa cup of nations. I must say the quality hasn't been so good. There are few exceptions though with individual brilliance.
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i have to agree with you, African Cup this year is not as interesting as the last two editions, Argelia and Morocco off the tournament only Drogma keeps my attention
The Vellamo Benchmark score was really impressive in Nexus 10.
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So... Since I'm the one who requested this thread I should try adding a conversation topic huh?
What OS configuration is everyone running and why?
For me I'm dual booting Windows 8 and Debian testing w/ Mate Desktop
Windows 8 for gaming and it was cheap enough to buy. I'm impressed with it. Also Windows 8 because Tag And Rename and Photoshop are the only two programs I never found suitable replacements in Linux for. Wine sucks and refuse to even go that route..
Debian for everything else.. Soon as I'm done gaming it's right to Debian for browsing the web, music, playing w/ Android etc.
I'm gonna go off topic here, but that's the whole point of this thread, right? What do you guys think of the fact that Google only make their products available in certain countries on the Play Store? (US, UK, Australia etc) I live in Ireland and it sucks that I can't get my hands on a Nexus 4 or Nexus 10, unless I pay way more than Google puts it up for. What do you guys think?
Might have something to do with import/export laws/tariffs with the countries involved. Only a guess, but seems plausible.
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So... Since I'm the one who requested this thread I should try adding a conversation topic huh?
What OS configuration is everyone running and why?
For me I'm dual booting Windows 8 and Debian testing w/ Mate Desktop
Windows 8 for gaming and it was cheap enough to buy. I'm impressed with it. Also Windows 8 because Tag And Rename and Photoshop are the only two programs I never found suitable replacements in Linux for. Wine sucks and refuse to even go that route..
Debian for everything else.. Soon as I'm done gaming it's right to Debian for browsing the web, music, playing w/ Android etc.
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I'm dual booting windows 7 with windows 8 because my school just offered us a free copy of windows 8 pro. Not impressed with win 8 at all
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A few months impression, anyone be so kind?
How's battery life, memory usage, screen quality, browsing & HD playback performance and USB storage compatibility after several weeks of usage?
Welcome to the official thread for discussing all things leaks/rumors related to Windows 11. We're currently expecting Microsoft to announce Windows 11 on June 24, and before we get started, you may want to take a look at what we already know about the new OS. Now, onto the leaks and rumors.
Windows 11 will have rounded cornersAlright, so this is mentioned in our dedicated Windows 11 page, but we've actually gotten a look at these rounded corners a couple of times. All the way back in November 2020, Microsoft added some mockups of apps with rounded corners to the Tips app on Windows 10, which Windows Latest was quick to spot. We can see it in places including a Wi-Fi connection flyout and the Settings app. One thing that's interesting about this particular leak is that there are some other UI elements we have yet to see. For example, the Settings app has its own icon in the title bar, but currently, apps only show their name here.
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Later, in April of this year, Microsoft posted a tweet with a picture of Windows Terminal running. Once again, the app had rounded corners, which aren't officially available. The tweet was then deleted, but not before the aforementioned Windows Latest spotted it.
And we've seen it yet again in a blog post ahead of this year's Build event, where Microsoft included a tiny "Hello world!" app window using rounded corners.
Windows Central's Zac Bowden has also shared some mockups of what the rounded corners might end up looking like in "Sun Valley", which is the codename for the visual refresh that we're expecting with Windows 11. This also includes a floating Start menu, instead of it being right next to the taskbar. We've also heard that there may be a whole new Start menu entirely, but what that looks like is a mystery. It's reported to be inspired by what we saw on Windows 10X before it was cancelled.
Revamped Action CenterAnother thing we've seen in leaks is a new Action center design, which seems to be designed to improve the experience for touch screens. In this animation captured by Windows Latest, you can see how it will apparently be possible to drag to expand the quick actions panel in the Action center.
We've also had the chance to see a new Action center in Windows 10X, and Microsoft says it's bringing some elements of Windows 10X to regular Windows, so it's possible it will look a bit more like this image from Windows Central:
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In fact, in some Windows Insider builds, it's been possible to enable an Action Center that looks more similar to this (though it requires some tinkering), so it's also safe to assume we'll see something along these lines.
More customizationOne thing that was spotted very recently is support for changing the appearance for the touch keyboard in Windows 11. Based on the leaks, you'll be able to set a background image your the keyboard, but also change the color of the key overlays, labels, and borders. This makes quite a bit of sense as Microsoft owns SwiftKey, a popular Android and iOS keyboard that also offers customization options in this vein.
On the topic of customization, Twitter user Albacore also noted that you might be able to use Windows Spotlight as your desktop background. Right now, Windows Spotlight is only available for Windows 10 on the lock screen, and it lets you see a different image every day, sometimes themed around holidays around the world.
And beyond visual customization, Albacore also spotted a "Device usage" page in the Settings app, which lets you specify how you plan to use your computer. Windows 10 already asks you about this when you set it up for the first time, but it looks like you might be able to change it whenever you'd like with this feature.
Battery usage detailsOne more feature uncovered by Albacore towards the end of last year was a new design for the battery usage page in the Settings app. This will give users more detailed insights into how battery has been used during the last seven days or 24 hours. You can also see the screen-on and screen-off time, and time spent in sleep mode.
A new Microsoft StoreAccording to a report from Windows Central, Microsoft is planning to overhaul the Store to allow unpacked Win32 apps to be published on the Store. It will also allow developers to use their apps and updates on their own content delivery networks, and it'll also be possible to use third-party commerce platforms. This should help the more reluctant developers transition to the Store, and make it a hub for all the apps you're used to installing.
Of course, the Store app itself will also be updated visually to fall in line with the rest of the UI elements in Windows 11, but we have yet to see that in action.
Microsoft itself might have teased some improvements to the Microsoft Store. A few weeks ago, the company talked about the gaming experience on PC on its Xbox Wire blog, and promises improved "install reliability and faster downloads". Currently, installing games using the Xbox app on Windows 10 uses the Microsoft Store to power downloads and installs behind the scenes, so this announcement could be hinting at some improvements on that front. It's true that downloading apps from the Microsoft Store can be a clunky experience, so hopefully, this also turns out to be true.
That's all the stuff we've seen for now, but we're bound to see more and more over the next few months. Once Microsoft acknowledges Windows 11 and begins releasing preview builds, more and more bits will likely begin to surface.
I love the look. It's like the best of metro UI with some glassy textures yet familiarity from Windows 10. I'm excited!
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I love the look. It's like the best of metro UI with some glassy textures yet familiarity from Windows 10. I'm excited!
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Totally agree! very nice look.
Can wait!
Cheers
Installed today in a vm, looks good, especially the option to centralize the task bar
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Installed today in a vm, looks good, especially the option to centralize the task bar
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I have the leak installed and its been running smooth. nice updated look and some nice new features here and there but at same time still resembles win10 enough to where you can use it business as usual right out of the box
elliwigy said:
I have the leak installed and its been running smooth. nice updated look and some nice new features here and there but at same time still resembles win10 enough to where you can use it business as usual right out of the box
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Where did you download it from and what's your PC's specs, if you don't mind me asking?
elliwigy said:
I have the leak installed and its been running smooth. nice updated look and some nice new features here and there but at same time still resembles win10 enough to where you can use it business as usual right out of the box
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Official Windows Dev build 22000.51 update is out.
Hands up who thinks Microsoft will be stupid enough to really enforce TPM 2.0 as a Windows 11 requirement and alienate better than 80% (conservative) of their actual market?
If the plan is to enforce better security, i wonder how thats going for them since theres already workarounds about (including grafting a certain .dll to bypass the TPM restriction)....then their decision is orders of magnitude of stupid beyond that time they all told us no one used a Start Menu anymore....
Surely the TPM requirement will die a horrible death before October
No one is that silly to enforce it, not even them....
73sydney said:
Hands up who thinks Microsoft will be stupid enough to really enforce TPM 2.0 as a Windows 11 requirement and alienate better than 80% (conservative) of their actual market?
If the plan it to enforce better security, i wonder how thats going for them since theres already workarounds about (including grafting a certain .ddl to bypass the TPM restriction)....then their decision is orders of magnitude of stupid beyond that time they all told us no one used a Start Menu anymore....
Surely the TPM requirement will die a horrible death before October
No one is that silly to enforce it, not even them....
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They could. They really want a world where people buy a new PC every five years at least. It also wouldn't surprise me if they eased up on requirements just a little bit. CPU requirements are a good example. If they came out and said that Windows 11 supports Intel 6th-gen and up, people would be outraged. If they say 8th-gen and up, and then roll it back to 6th-gen and up, people are grateful.
They had originally published TPM 1.2 as a "hard floor", so maybe that's where they'll end up.
Cloud and central services are the plan for Microsoft(Even in companies, more cloud business, more service defined services, more "hand's off, let the software do it automatically"). They want more control, more feedback, more profit from an operating system that is free for many users. You get it for free, you have to give something for it. Your data, your control. That's it.
therichwoods said:
They could. They really want a world where people buy a new PC every five years at least. It also wouldn't surprise me if they eased up on requirements just a little bit. CPU requirements are a good example. If they came out and said that Windows 11 supports Intel 6th-gen and up, people would be outraged. If they say 8th-gen and up, and then roll it back to 6th-gen and up, people are grateful.
They had originally published TPM 1.2 as a "hard floor", so maybe that's where they'll end up.
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Thats my other issue, i have a perfectly good Core i7-4970 (4th Gen) system that i just completed Sniper Ghost Warrior Contracts 2 on. 4 cores/8 threads @ 4Ghz. Thats 7 generations behind current. This PC still steals other PC's lunch money
Anyone want to give me a cogent reason why i cant run Windows 11?
Ive been in IT since 8bit, i have a PC that does everything i need and i still havent actually found the limits of it, and never been into aspirational technology...i blame that rotten Apple for this cancer of people wanting a new product every 6 months...if Microsoft tries to go down the route that Apple does and excluding them via hardware age, which is another ****ty trait of theirs, it will end very badly for them. People will switch to free alternatives like Linux in droves, and i'll help them do it...
Like i said, and insane amount of people have a PC capable of running Windows 11 perfectly. The time for Microsoft to go after their new "security agenda/awakening" was when they called halt to Windows 7. Not now....
TPM is set to be a massive fail if they enforce it....
A very old picture, long before the word "cloud" was born in the IT, the same was going on with big data, but you can simply say the same for cloud
73sydney said:
Hands up who thinks Microsoft will be stupid enough to really enforce TPM 2.0 as a Windows 11 requirement and alienate better than 80% (conservative) of their actual market?
If the plan it to enforce better security, i wonder how thats going for them since theres already workarounds about (including grafting a certain .ddl to bypass the TPM restriction)....then their decision is orders of magnitude of stupid beyond that time they all told us no one used a Start Menu anymore....
Surely the TPM requirement will die a horrible death before October
No one is that silly to enforce it, not even them....
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Another workaround I saw was to open the ISo and replace x Files from Win 10 for the TPM check, zip it back up and install it. Much like replacing files on ROMS, right?
73sydney said:
i blame that rotten Apple for this cancer of people wanting a new product every 6 months...i
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...and Android hopped right on board with Monthly updates
73sydney said:
Thats my other issue, i have a perfectly good Core i7-4970 (4th Gen) system that i just completed Sniper Ghost Warrior Contracts 2 on. 4 cores/8 threads @ 4Ghz. Thats 7 generations behind current. This PC still steals other PC's lunch money
Anyone want to give me a cogent reason why i cant run Windows 11?
Ive been in IT since 8bit, i have a PC that does everything i need and i still havent actually found the limits of it, and never been into aspirational technology...i blame that rotten Apple for this cancer of people wanting a new product every 6 months...if Microsoft tries to go down the route that Apple does and excluding them via hardware age, which is another ****ty trait of theirs, it will end very badly for them. People will switch to free alternatives like Linux in droves, and i'll help them do it...
Like i said, and insane amount of people have a PC capable of running Windows 11 perfectly. The time for Microsoft to go after their new "security agenda/awakening" was when they called halt to Windows 7. Not now....
TPM is set to be a massive fail if they enforce it....
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Obviously, your Core i7-4970 can outperform, say, the supported Pentium Gold 4425Y. Performance is clearly not the issue, and I don't even think Microsoft is pretending that it is. Instead, they're claiming features supported by the chips, including security. I'd bet money that they'll roll back the requirements, at least a bit.
I think they're going to enforce TPM, but I think that the term "massive fail" is relative. The objective of Windows 11 is clearly not the same as Windows 10. Windows 10 was all about getting every Windows user on the same version of Windows. A big thing at the time was Microsoft saying that it didn't want to compete with itself. Every time there was a new version of Windows, it was trying to compete with the old version of Windows.
Windows 11 is more about getting you to buy a new computer. It's not about getting as many people as possible to upgrade anymore; otherwise, they wouldn't have raised the minimum requirements.
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Obviously, your Core i7-4970 can outperform, say, the supported Pentium Gold 4425Y. Performance is clearly not the issue, and I don't even think Microsoft is pretending that it is. Instead, they're claiming features supported by the chips, including security. I'd bet money that they'll roll back the requirements, at least a bit.
I think they're going to enforce TPM, but I think that the term "massive fail" is relative. The objective of Windows 11 is clearly not the same as Windows 10. Windows 10 was all about getting every Windows user on the same version of Windows. A big thing at the time was Microsoft saying that it didn't want to compete with itself. Every time there was a new version of Windows, it was trying to compete with the old version of Windows.
Windows 11 is more about getting you to buy a new computer. It's not about getting as many people as possible to upgrade anymore; otherwise, they wouldn't have raised the minimum requirements.
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I'll wait for the cheque from Redmond....
Like i said, this has all the hallmarks of creating a new Windows 7 style holdout, which is patently stupid and will only hurt them.
TPM has been around for long enough, and yet every company i worked in never chose to utilize it, and your average Joe has no idea it even exists, nor cares about it.
By all means offer features that rely on it, and deny those features to people who don't choose to have TPM, or have it turned on, but to make it a requirement install the OS at all is certifiably insane, like really....
After 30+ year sin IT and watching Microsoft make some truly bad decisions, i for one won't be the one to give the bad news to anyone i currently support, ill just pass on the local Microsoft support details and watch the excrement hit the fan from the comfort of my bunker...
I had hoped Microsoft had learned its lesson after taking 2/3 years to return the Start Menu after they crowed they had "metrics that show people don't even use it", but no
Their utter capitulation on the Start Menu you might have humbled them some and given them the ability to listen to and respect their customers...
Can i add TPM 2.0 in my Acer laptop (Aspire E 15)
E5-571-34GA (Model No. Z5WAH)
sudheeshts said:
Can i add TPM 2.0 in my Acer laptop (Aspire E 15)
E5-571-34GA (Model No. Z5WAH)
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Run any of the (now) half dozen programs that check for TPM, like:
Release 2.5.0.5 - Future Proofing · rcmaehl/WhyNotWin11
2.5.0.5 comes with the following changes: Code Cleanup Fixes Dev Builds Fixes App Sidebar Icon Minor Translation updates Fixes DPI scaling for Windows 11 Adds fixes from 2.5.0.4 that failed to com...
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(Download the latest .exe for your machine type - WhyNotWin11.exe = x64, WhyNotWin11_x86.exe = x86)
And/Or check your models manual from the manufacturers support site to see if its an option to enable in the BIOS
This isnt a thread where people are going to check through online specs for you to give a personal answer sorry.....
Based on the age of that model, and being an Acer laptop, im going to hard bet on No
73sydney said:
Run any of the (now) half dozen programs that check for TPM, like:
Release 2.5.0.5 - Future Proofing · rcmaehl/WhyNotWin11
2.5.0.5 comes with the following changes: Code Cleanup Fixes Dev Builds Fixes App Sidebar Icon Minor Translation updates Fixes DPI scaling for Windows 11 Adds fixes from 2.5.0.4 that failed to com...
github.com
(Download the latest .exe for your machine type - WhyNotWin11.exe = x64, WhyNotWin11_x86.exe = x86)
And/Or check your models manual from the manufacturers support site to see if its an option to enable in the BIOS
This isnt a thread where people are going to check through online specs for you to give a personal answer sorry.....
Based on the age of that model, and being an Acer laptop, im going to hard bet on No
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It is not available! and i know it is a hardware.
I want to know i can be added it in to my existing lap
Of these two versions of Windows, in your opinion, which one is the best?
XPx64 hands down.
Personally, i loved Windows 7 more, even if XP is an really good Windows, Windows 7 have more functions that later were really useful for me, i'm even still using Windows 7
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Now I have to admit that XP was really the best.
The system was quite reliable and stable. And the failures were mostly due to drivers, which not everyone learned how to write back then, or to hardware.
Most of the games that came out with XP worked fine with both 7 and 10. There was and is such a game - Unreal Tournament 99. It still works on all systems without installation (including LINUX). A server can be created by almost any user on his computer. There are a lot of such servers on the internet even now. You do not need to pay any game sites.
At this time, the monopolist decided to simplify the task of making money by introducing artificial restrictions. This is just my opinion.
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XPx64 was sublime. Used to run with no antivirus and it was fast. Drivers weren't really an issue for me.
Side by side errors was a common problem but easily corrected by adding the missing MS library. Some developers had forgot to include the 64 version on their installation CD
geraldwkoonce said:
Now I have to admit that XP was really the best.
The system was quite reliable and stable. And the failures were mostly due to drivers, which not everyone learned how to write back then, or to hardware.
Most of the games that came out with XP worked fine with both 7 and 10. There was and is such a game - Unreal Tournament 99. It still works on all systems without installation (including LINUX). A server can be created by almost any user on his computer. There are a lot of such servers on the internet even now. You do not need to pay any game sites.
At this time, the monopolist decided to simplify the task of making money by introducing artificial restrictions. This is just my opinion.
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XP was horrible. For one, it was ugly. It devoured resources. Had severe security issues. Slow as hell... just 12
HipKat said:
XP was horrible. For one, it was ugly. It devoured resources. Had severe security issues. Slow as hell... just 12
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Xp×64, full load used 563mb of ram.
What's 12 using?
In 2006-10 a reboot would fry whatever 32 bit malware that was living in the ram. That was fun. Never had security issues with it behind a hardware/software firewalls.
blackhawk said:
Xp×64, full load used 563mb of ram.
What's 12 using?
In 2006-10 a reboot would fry whatever 32 bit malware that was living in the ram. That was fun. Never had security issues with it behind a hardware/software firewalls.
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WinXP most computers had about 4GB ram at the very most. If that?? Today's machines use up to 64GB. Mine has 32. So RAM usage is negligible.
Thanks to Windows Defender, no one HAS to do a reboot to fry Malware - nor do any 3rd party programs need to run to provide security, other than the VPN many people use for privacy
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WinXP most computers had about 4GB ram at the very most. If that?? Today's machines use up to 64GB. Mine has 32. So RAM usage is negligible.
Thanks to Windows Defender, no one HAS to do a reboot to fry Malware - nor do any 3rd party programs need to run to provide security, other than the VPN many people use for privacy
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The point was it was light and efficient, very little bloat. Windows is a mess today. W7 was the last known good version
XPx64 was Windows zenith though.
MS pretty much has been a zombie since.
God forbid you need a reboot That went right over your head, humor. Even then it boot time was 26 seconds or less.
Hello
to have used both versions of windows I find windows 7 much better than xp, if we look closer most of the old pc today are on seven and run wonderfully
blackhawk said:
The point was it was light and efficient, very little bloat. Windows is a mess today. W7 was the last known good version
XPx64 was Windows zenith though.
MS pretty much has been a zombie since.
God forbid you need a reboot That went right over your head, humor. Even then it boot time was 26 seconds or less.
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XP was never 26 seconds or less, not on an HDD anyway. Mine on a 500GB SSD boots quite quickly, when I'm on my Windows side of the dual boot
7 was the best of both worlds.
I'm now using 10 LTSC (x64) (Build 1809) (2019) which feels like one of the last Windows OSes without unwanted bloatware, it's almost like 7 reskinned as 10 just with what's needed. I love that.
The optics from Windows XP was the best, thats why i am using Win Aero Tweaker and the software Openshell (former Classicshell) on Windows 10 and 11, see sample...
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HipKat said:
XP was never 26 seconds or less, not on an HDD anyway. Mine on a 500GB SSD boots quite quickly, when I'm on my Windows side of the dual boot
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Yeah it was... XPx64 running on 4 raptors in a Raid 0 configuration. I timed it out enough times.
Windows Vista was the best, followed by Windows ME.
Windows 7 for sure, i love the UI, It was pretty fast, theres also many workarounds to running it on new hardware, even I did them