Hello fellow more experienced rom devs,
I have been looking through the guides on how to develop my own rom. Let me briefly explain what I want to do:
I would like a ROM that has only 5 apps: calls, text, Google Maps, Youtube Music, and the camera.
No Google Play Store, no web browser, no search, no option to sideload apps, etc.
Myself and a several peers are looking to disconnect. But why go by something like the light phone or punkt or a dumb phone when our current phones have everything we need, but we would like to limit their functionality.
I have two questions. How hard of an undertaking would this be for a noob to develop a rom like this?
Is there some sort of ROM already that can be customized to fit this criteria?
Thank you,
microzee said:
Hello fellow more experienced rom devs,
I have been looking through the guides on how to develop my own rom. Let me briefly explain what I want to do:
I would like a ROM that has only 5 apps: calls, text, Google Maps, Youtube Music, and the camera.
No Google Play Store, no web browser, no search, no option to sideload apps, etc.
Myself and a several peers are looking to disconnect. But why go by something like the light phone or punkt or a dumb phone when our current phones have everything we need, but we would like to limit their functionality.
I have two questions. How hard of an undertaking would this be for a noob to develop a rom like this?
Is there some sort of ROM already that can be customized to fit this criteria?
Thank you,
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Hey guys, hope this is relevant to this section and someone can help me out as ive been searching and trying to fix this for hours.
Xperia x10
Rogers
Rooted
froyo youtube version 2.0.26
Ok so i uninstalled the stock youtube app and upgraded with the froyo youtube app (much nicer). the app works great except If i sign into my youtube account and close the program it automatically force closes as soon as i start it up the next time. To be able to use youtube at all again i have to uninstall and then re-install it.
HOWEVER... if before i close youtube i sign out of my account i can reopen it later with no problems.
Ive tried deleting the /data/data/ youtube files and clearing the youtube dalvik cache, however i may be doing it incorrectly.
Can anyone please help or make some recommendations.
Thanks
Instead on uninstalling it, you can just clear user data,
After that resign and it should work fine,
Btw, wrong section.
Sent from my X10i using Tapatalk
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If you have developed a ROM, or are working with others to do so, the development forum is somewhere to discuss and share ideas, post useful feedback and logs or crash dumps, and to discuss a common goal developers are trying to achieve.
It is NOT the place to post your question because it gets higher traffic, or because more experienced users frequent it. Doing this just annoys those who are working on the device, and drives them away. Developers don't want to wade through 20 threads of "Help me urgently" to find their threads for porting and fixing camera issues etc. Similarly, if a thread is designated as discussion for developers say, porting a camera fix, please do not post in there asking "When will it be ready?", "Can I flash this yet?" etc. This is both completely disrespectful to those working on the project (you evidently haven't read the important posts in the thread), and also is making it harder for developers to find comments from other developers or testers when required.
Similarly, don't make loads of "Thanks for your work here" posts in an active development thread. It's just as annoying to developers as asking when something will be ready. If a ROM is complete, then go ahead and thank the developer if you wish, but don't go into threads for devs only, and interrupt it to post "thanks". It's basically spamming, and is treated as such.
If you are posting in development, you should have read every sticky and notice there, and should be actively developing or helping in the development of something. Developing isn't installing a ROM, or using a tweak, it's creating a ROM or other hack or tweak. If you haven't read for several days before starting out on XDA, you are likely about to ask something already solved. I registered on XDA when I first wanted to post, and that was to join in a discussion on something. Sure, join up and ask a question, but read the information available in General and Q&A first, as your question will have been asked before. Search is your friend here, become familiar with it.
Regarding when to post in development if you are not actually developing something, there is one occasion where it's acceptable. If you find a leak of a new ROM, which isn't already posted, and you verify it's legitimacy via either running it, or based on the source you obtained it from, then this is assisting in development, and should be posted in development. If you want to ask when a leak will be available use search first, then if not already in discussion, open a thread in general or Q&A.
If you have a problem flashing a ROM, this is NOT related to development. It's up to you to determine if it is specific to a particular ROM, and post useful information in that developer's existing thread for the ROM. If it happens on more than one ROM, and isn't a known issue (remember you should read several times more words than you post), then find out what you are doing wrong. Check guides written by others, try to repeat the problem and see if it happens every time. Something needs to be reproducible to be fixed effectively.
Once you have identified what you need help with go to the device Q&A forum (general if device lacks one), and make a clear, informative thread that explains the issue, and what you have tried doing to fix it. Did you re-download the ROM? Did you ask a friend to flash it for you, to reduce chance of user error? What steps (exactly) did you follow? What errors did you see (exact wording)? Did you double check all the steps? Did you do a wipe or hard reset?
If you make a clear, concise, yet detailed post, you will find help forthcoming, and should get the problem sorted very quickly. If someone suggests you try something, report back on what happened, did it work etc. Then, next time someone has this issue and searches, they will find this and have a verified and tested solution.
So remember... before you start a thread in development, ask yourself what you are developing. If you can't answer, then stop, step away from the post button, and think about where you are posting. Would it be better in General or Q&A, or is some more time with your best friend, search, required?
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hi does anyone have a sdcard that works properly in there phone and cud you tell mem what its call so i can get one as the one i have got plays only certain songs on it and when i put the music on diffrent sdcard 2gb it works fine all them do
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hi does anyone have a sdcard that works properly in there phone and cud you tell mem what its call so i can get one as the one i have got plays only certain songs on it and when i put the music on diffrent sdcard 2gb it works fine all them do
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Its a 8gb hc sdcard i had it seems to play one or two songs and then get message saying file can not be play or something like that.i recently tryed the same music on the original card that came with the phone and they all work am so uzzled can some help or give me a link to a sdcard that works properly and playes music
sumsy2010 said:
hi does anyone have a sdcard that works properly in there phone and cud you tell mem what its call so i can get one as the one i have got plays only certain songs on it and when i put the music on diffrent sdcard 2gb it works fine all them do
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You can get any Micro SD card you want actually ,just try it to be 4gb+ and if possible class 4+ (class 6+ recommended if you want to record HD and fast access to all files without lag)
The microsd card you got might be faulty,but in general any would work without problem.
Goodluck.
xtrmshadow said:
You can get any Micro SD card you want actually ,just try it to be 4gb+ and if possible class 4+ (class 6+ recommended if you want to record HD and fast access to all files without lag)
The microsd card you got might be faulty,but in general any would work without problem.
Goodluck.
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If you have developed a ROM, or are working with others to do so, the development forum is somewhere to discuss and share ideas, post useful feedback and logs or crash dumps, and to discuss a common goal developers are trying to achieve.
It is NOT the place to post your question because it gets higher traffic, or because more experienced users frequent it. Doing this just annoys those who are working on the device, and drives them away. Developers don't want to wade through 20 threads of "Help me urgently" to find their threads for porting and fixing camera issues etc. Similarly, if a thread is designated as discussion for developers say, porting a camera fix, please do not post in there asking "When will it be ready?", "Can I flash this yet?" etc. This is both completely disrespectful to those working on the project (you evidently haven't read the important posts in the thread), and also is making it harder for developers to find comments from other developers or testers when required.
Similarly, don't make loads of "Thanks for your work here" posts in an active development thread. It's just as annoying to developers as asking when something will be ready. If a ROM is complete, then go ahead and thank the developer if you wish, but don't go into threads for devs only, and interrupt it to post "thanks". It's basically spamming, and is treated as such.
If you are posting in development, you should have read every sticky and notice there, and should be actively developing or helping in the development of something. Developing isn't installing a ROM, or using a tweak, it's creating a ROM or other hack or tweak. If you haven't read for several days before starting out on XDA, you are likely about to ask something already solved. I registered on XDA when I first wanted to post, and that was to join in a discussion on something. Sure, join up and ask a question, but read the information available in General and Q&A first, as your question will have been asked before. Search is your friend here, become familiar with it.
Regarding when to post in development if you are not actually developing something, there is one occasion where it's acceptable. If you find a leak of a new ROM, which isn't already posted, and you verify it's legitimacy via either running it, or based on the source you obtained it from, then this is assisting in development, and should be posted in development. If you want to ask when a leak will be available use search first, then if not already in discussion, open a thread in general or Q&A.
If you have a problem flashing a ROM, this is NOT related to development. It's up to you to determine if it is specific to a particular ROM, and post useful information in that developer's existing thread for the ROM. If it happens on more than one ROM, and isn't a known issue (remember you should read several times more words than you post), then find out what you are doing wrong. Check guides written by others, try to repeat the problem and see if it happens every time. Something needs to be reproducible to be fixed effectively.
Once you have identified what you need help with go to the device Q&A forum (general if device lacks one), and make a clear, informative thread that explains the issue, and what you have tried doing to fix it. Did you re-download the ROM? Did you ask a friend to flash it for you, to reduce chance of user error? What steps (exactly) did you follow? What errors did you see (exact wording)? Did you double check all the steps? Did you do a wipe or hard reset?
If you make a clear, concise, yet detailed post, you will find help forthcoming, and should get the problem sorted very quickly. If someone suggests you try something, report back on what happened, did it work etc. Then, next time someone has this issue and searches, they will find this and have a verified and tested solution.
So remember... before you start a thread in development, ask yourself what you are developing. If you can't answer, then stop, step away from the post button, and think about where you are posting. Would it be better in General or Q&A, or is some more time with your best friend, search, required?
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I have an unlocked X10, and before updating to 2.1 everything worked ok. But now it can't connect to internet or MMS trough gprs or 3g. I have repaired it with seus and tested it with two different sim cards. How can i repair it?? Anyone had this problem before??
Thanks and sorry because I´m from spain and I don´t speak english very well...
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Accessories - any items to do with components and/or accessories relating to your device.
Rom Development - only meant for very advanced technical discussion directly related to ROM development activity and the delivery of actual ROMs and ROM components ONLY. Nothing else goes in here.
Themes & Apps - anything to do directly with the development of themes and/or applications. Nothing else goes in here.
MOD EDIT: BEFORE POSTING ANY THREAD IN THE DEVELOPMENT SECTION, PLEASE READ THE FOLLOWING:
If you have developed a ROM, or are working with others to do so, the development forum is somewhere to discuss and share ideas, post useful feedback and logs or crash dumps, and to discuss a common goal developers are trying to achieve.
It is NOT the place to post your question because it gets higher traffic, or because more experienced users frequent it. Doing this just annoys those who are working on the device, and drives them away. Developers don't want to wade through 20 threads of "Help me urgently" to find their threads for porting and fixing camera issues etc. Similarly, if a thread is designated as discussion for developers say, porting a camera fix, please do not post in there asking "When will it be ready?", "Can I flash this yet?" etc. This is both completely disrespectful to those working on the project (you evidently haven't read the important posts in the thread), and also is making it harder for developers to find comments from other developers or testers when required.
Similarly, don't make loads of "Thanks for your work here" posts in an active development thread. It's just as annoying to developers as asking when something will be ready. If a ROM is complete, then go ahead and thank the developer if you wish, but don't go into threads for devs only, and interrupt it to post "thanks". It's basically spamming, and is treated as such.
If you are posting in development, you should have read every sticky and notice there, and should be actively developing or helping in the development of something. Developing isn't installing a ROM, or using a tweak, it's creating a ROM or other hack or tweak. If you haven't read for several days before starting out on XDA, you are likely about to ask something already solved. I registered on XDA when I first wanted to post, and that was to join in a discussion on something. Sure, join up and ask a question, but read the information available in General and Q&A first, as your question will have been asked before. Search is your friend here, become familiar with it.
Regarding when to post in development if you are not actually developing something, there is one occasion where it's acceptable. If you find a leak of a new ROM, which isn't already posted, and you verify it's legitimacy via either running it, or based on the source you obtained it from, then this is assisting in development, and should be posted in development. If you want to ask when a leak will be available use search first, then if not already in discussion, open a thread in general or Q&A.
If you have a problem flashing a ROM, this is NOT related to development. It's up to you to determine if it is specific to a particular ROM, and post useful information in that developer's existing thread for the ROM. If it happens on more than one ROM, and isn't a known issue (remember you should read several times more words than you post), then find out what you are doing wrong. Check guides written by others, try to repeat the problem and see if it happens every time. Something needs to be reproducible to be fixed effectively.
Once you have identified what you need help with go to the device Q&A forum (general if device lacks one), and make a clear, informative thread that explains the issue, and what you have tried doing to fix it. Did you re-download the ROM? Did you ask a friend to flash it for you, to reduce chance of user error? What steps (exactly) did you follow? What errors did you see (exact wording)? Did you double check all the steps? Did you do a wipe or hard reset?
If you make a clear, concise, yet detailed post, you will find help forthcoming, and should get the problem sorted very quickly. If someone suggests you try something, report back on what happened, did it work etc. Then, next time someone has this issue and searches, they will find this and have a verified and tested solution.
So remember... before you start a thread in development, ask yourself what you are developing. If you can't answer, then stop, step away from the post button, and think about where you are posting. Would it be better in General or Q&A, or is some more time with your best friend, search, required?
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Then are you sure you have put your apn settings back to your phone? If you are using any unbranded firmware like the Global or Nordic you'll need to put your MMS, APN settings back to the phone manually...
Do a search within the Q&A forum or Google to find out what your career settings are...
PS> You can find the settings in the next path:
Configuracion>Redes Inalam. y redes>Redes Moviles.
Jim
Thanks for your reply!! I put the apn settings, and also my sim provider sent me a configuration sms. I check it out and everything is ok, also I have another x10 and everything works well with the same configuration. But this x10 doesn't try to connect if wifi is off, it always says that there is no internet connection available. I've tried many things but it doesn't work anyway...
luisnatur said:
Thanks for your reply!! I put the apn settings, and also my sim provider sent me a configuration sms. I check it out and everything is ok, also I have another x10 and everything works well with the same configuration. But this x10 doesn't try to connect if wifi is off, it always says that there is no internet connection available. I've tried many things but it doesn't work anyway...
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try setting on my signature
Even with all apn settings ok, it won't connect... I really don't know what to do, this is the first problem I have with my x10. Do you think It would be ok to downgrade to 1.6??
luisnatur said:
Even with all apn settings ok, it won't connect... I really don't know what to do, this is the first problem I have with my x10. Do you think It would be ok to downgrade to 1.6??
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that`s odd
try downgrade and see if it works. If it does upgrade again to 2.1 and see.
If still doesn`t work go to store and reclaim warranty
Some of us do not install G**gle apps (incl Play). We use instead F-Droid and APKPure.
But some apps insist that they require Play... it's not a technical requirement, just one they throw in there, but it's a real problem as I am not going to install Play just for that.
Does anyone know of a Play 'placeholder' or 'simulator' which will satisfy this specious requirement? Or has anyone decompiled an app to remove this requirement?
Recommendations?
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BachuArg said:
This is not related specifically to Havoc.
Shouldn't you make a thread in another place?
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Apparently you haven't actually tried this. There is very little depth of knowledge about things Android, in general. We are fortunate here to have a competent dev and some competent users. This is rare.
It is unusual to not be at all dependent on G**gle, and I am happy to help with what I know about freeing yourself completely. But there are some catches, and the question I'm asking is the last one for me.
I can probably figure it out for myself, but when forced to do that I am not as inclined to share if sharing (or even trying) is not part of the ethos..
So can we can, or can we can't? :cyclops:
Quantumstate said:
Some of us do not install G**gle apps (incl Play). We use instead F-Droid and APKPure.
But some apps insist that they require Play... it's not a technical requirement, just one they throw in there, but it's a real problem as I am not going to install Play just for that.
Does anyone know of a Play 'placeholder' or 'simulator' which will satisfy this specious requirement? Or has anyone decompiled an app to remove this requirement?
Recommendations?
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Try MicroG. Your purpose will be solved without installing any GAPPS.
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So can we can, or can we can't? :cyclops:
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Always share helpful info.
I believe the response the person made was a legit argument basically being made to help direct you to find a better place with much higher odds of getting an answer (looks like you got it tho).
But that doesn't mean you can't ask or can't share. It's all up to you. Sharing knowledge is the foundation this forum has thrived in. Personally I hope nothing defers anyone to question that regardless of any responses made or not made.
And yes, this is an excellent dev. But he's here to help primarily with his area of expertise, which according to the thread title is with Havoc issues. He can't be relied upon to answer non ROM questions (yet he probably would if he knew).
@Quantumstate,
I had to move your question and the corresponding answers to a specific thread (your thread now) to "Android Development and Hacking Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting" because the thread where you posted initially was not the best place to ask.
I have named the thread "How to get rid of Playstore requirement for some apps?" because I had to fill a subject (is mandatory) but feel free to edit the title yourself if it's not OK for you.
Also, I suggest you to read THIS THREAD by @Oswald Boelcke, you could eventually find some clues there. If not maybe Oswald Boelcke or any other members (developers or not) here should be able to help you in this new Q&A thread
Thanks for understanding
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@Quantumstate I just realised that @Wood Man pinged me and pointed you to my thread. Feel free to ask me in my thread or certainly here whatever you want to know. But I assume you first have a lot of reading ahead.
Additionally to my thread, I'd like to drag your attention to some more XDA threads in this context. In these threads are also links to Github/Gitlab including excellent tutorials. If you want you'll be able to leave Google services or requirements in many although not all cases behind; however, it also depends of the ROM(s) you use. This means if you commence a discussion please also provide insight into details of your device, system and configuration.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/app-microg-gmscore-floss-play-services-t3217616
https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/module-nanomod-5-0-20170405-microg-t3584928
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/development/microg-unofficial-installer-t3432360
https://shadow53.com/android/no-gapps/
Last remark: On none of our devices, any Google service or application is installed. But all of our application run fine without and by the use of µG instead. The very few application, from which I expect push notifications, do receive them on time via GCM/FCM.
The one and only Google application, which I've installed, is the Google Play Store modified by Setalphia, the developer of above linked NanoDroid. It allows me easy access and updates of my applications purchased on Google PS respectively to conduct in-app purchases that I mainly do in order to support a good development and developer unless the developer offers different means of donation.
I knew we could count on you Oswald :highfive:
As everyone knows that Instagram is a big platform and many users indulge themselves while scrolling through Instagram but imagine you are scrolling down Instagram and suddenly it stops refreshing, it will surely ruin your mind. What can be the reasons behind "Instagram not refreshing the feed"? Read ahead to know more:
1. Maybe there is an internet problem
2. If you are using any other app for Instagram
3. Maybe you are using third-party app
Read here: https://ai.wiki/read-blog/34783_what-are-the-reasons-that-instagram-can-039-t-refresh-feed.html
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As everyone knows that Instagram is a big platform and many users indulge themselves while scrolling through Instagram but imagine you are scrolling down Instagram and suddenly it stops refreshing, it will surely ruin your mind. What can be the reasons behind "Instagram not refreshing the feed"? Read ahead to know more:
1. Maybe there is an internet problem
2. If you are using any other app for Instagram
3. Maybe you are using third-party app
Read here: https://ai.wiki/read-blog/34783_what-are-the-reasons-that-instagram-can-039-t-refresh-feed.html
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Hello and good morning, @rosewattson
Welcome to XDA. I hope you'll always get the support you require.
However, prior to your next posting please read the guidances that are stuck on top of every forum like
Note: Questions go in Q&A Forum
If you are posting a Question Thread post it in the Q&A forum. Technical discussion of Android development and hacking. No noobs, please. Device-specific releases should go under the appropriate device forum...
forum.xda-developers.com
and the others. I've moved your thread to Android Q&A.
Thanks for your cooperation!
Regards
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