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i've been using my galaxy s3 for the past one month, i was really amazed by everything that phone has to offer. sadly though my phone started to lag after a week. then i got a firmware update from samsung through kies. after the update my phone's performance started to considerably improve and i was happy about that but again after a week of use the phone started to lag. i have a huge list of apps installed on my phone and mostly runs in the background and also loads of widgets too. my max ram usage usually stays at 677 mb sometimes reaches 721 mb which is too high. due to this i know its a part of my mistake too for my phone to lag because of many apps installed. so i factory reset my phone and after fresh boot it was around 584 mb. after some essential apps like facebook, twitter and few more apps my ram count was back to 680 mb.
sigh!!! now that really pissed me off. so i turned off and on few background processes in the settings until i went into the "Security" after turning off the "Ripple Effect" and BAMM!! my ram usage reduced to 420 mb and stayed there. even after installing every huge load of apps i had before my ram surprisingly still stays around 480 mb which is by far so awesome for my heavy usage. maybe others can try this and see if this the real reason for all the heavy ram usage. may be i'm wrong. by the way my phone lags no more after i turned off the ripple effect and no more "launcher reloads" too. i'm using Nova Launcher, my phone is rooted and no task killers installed. other than cf-root everything else is stock.
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I'll try this now and report back
I haven't noticed a change with it on or off to be honest. I was at about 480mb before and I'm at the same now!
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Hmm, 480mb before lock, 496 immediately after unlock, drops down to 476 shortly after. It uses about 20mb from what I can see.
Kryten2k35 said:
I haven't noticed a change with it on or off to be honest. I was at about 480mb before and I'm at the same now!
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Hmm, 480mb before lock, 496 immediately after unlock, drops down to 476 shortly after. It uses about 20mb from what I can see.
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my girlfriend's s3 had a ram usage amount of around 630 mb, i just disabled the ripple effect on her phone now it shows 410 mb after cleaning the ram. may be users with heavy ram usage can see the difference. watever, she was happy with it and made me a sandwich
It seems to be a little better but its still hard to tell
I have about 244mb free running xda
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androidified said:
my girlfriend's s3 had a ram usage amount of around 630 mb, i just disabled the ripple effect on her phone now it shows 410 mb after cleaning the ram. may be users with heavy ram usage can see the difference. watever, she was happy with it and made me a sandwich
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om nom nom :cyclops:
androidified said:
i've been using my galaxy s3 for the past one month, i was really amazed by everything that phone has to offer. sadly though my phone started to lag after a week. then i got a firmware update from samsung through kies. after the update my phone's performance started to considerably improve and i was happy about that but again after a week of use the phone started to lag. i have a huge list of apps installed on my phone and mostly runs in the background and also loads of widgets too. my max ram usage usually stays at 677 mb sometimes reaches 721 mb which is too high. due to this i know its a part of my mistake too for my phone to lag because of many apps installed. so i factory reset my phone and after fresh boot it was around 584 mb. after some essential apps like facebook, twitter and few more apps my ram count was back to 680 mb.
sigh!!! now that really pissed me off. so i turned off and on few background processes in the settings until i went into the "Security" after turning off the "Ripple Effect" and BAMM!! my ram usage reduced to 420 mb and stayed there. even after installing every huge load of apps i had before my ram surprisingly still stays around 480 mb which is by far so awesome for my heavy usage. maybe others can try this and see if this the real reason for all the heavy ram usage. may be i'm wrong. by the way my phone lags no more after i turned off the ripple effect and no more "launcher reloads" too. i'm using Nova Launcher, my phone is rooted and no task killers installed. other than cf-root everything else is stock.
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The system can manage the RAM very well. It will end applications accordingly when the RAM usage gets close to its maximum limit. You dont have to worry about any lags. I never have to clear the memory and I reboot my phone once a week or so.
Unused ram is wasted ram
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Lennyuk said:
Unused ram is wasted ram
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+100!
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Where's the other 200MB of RAM gone, though? These are 1GB devices, no?
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Unused ram is wasted ram
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I agree that the phone should use as much ram as possible but my problem is that it doesnt keep things in ram that i want it to because all the stock things take up so much space.
For example, i play some games like "draw something" and often it has to reload the app after ive been out of it for a while. Or even worse, it has to reload the home screen icons and widgets when i leave an app. That second one is that one that really pi#$es me off. Why doesnt it keep the home screen in ram?
Also this is advertised as having 1gb of ram right? Why does it only display 780mb? I tried turning off the ripple effect with minimal change in ram usage. Ive checked the running apps but theres nothing using a particularly large amount of ram. Does anyone have any suggestions? Its really frustrating because i had a galaxy s2 running ICS which had the same amount of ram but it always had like 300-400 mb free and always kept things in ram ready to go. now i usually only have 100-200mb and it always closes the apps i want kept open, ESECIALLY the HOME SCREEN icons and widgets. So frustrating.
Help? Please?
Jaisah said:
I agree that the phone should use as much ram as possible but my problem is that it doesnt keep things in ram that i want it to because all the stock things take up so much space.
For example, i play some games like "draw something" and often it has to reload the app after ive been out of it for a while. Or even worse, it has to reload the home screen icons and widgets when i leave an app. That second one is that one that really pi#$es me off. Why doesnt it keep the home screen in ram?
Also this is advertised as having 1gb of ram right? Why does it only display 780mb? I tried turning off the ripple effect with minimal change in ram usage. Ive checked the running apps but theres nothing using a particularly large amount of ram. Does anyone have any suggestions? Its really frustrating because i had a galaxy s2 running ICS which had the same amount of ram but it always had like 300-400 mb free and always kept things in ram ready to go. now i usually only have 100-200mb and it always closes the apps i want kept open, ESECIALLY the HOME SCREEN icons and widgets. So frustrating.
Help? Please?
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even i have the same issues with the home screen. i dont use the default TouchWiz launcher, i use Nova. I made it a system app by moving the apk to the system folder. after this the launcher's performance is much better compared the past. even though it still reloads sometime after i launch some heavy apps like GTA or few other games.
what i think about the heavy RAM usage when compared to the SGS2 is the use of many background process for the motion and other smart features in SGS3. you can try disabling the few you dont use much, it might help reduce the heavy RAM usage but there isn't much we could do about the RAM usage.
i tried few of those unofficial stock 4.1 jelly bean ROMs, compared to the official ICS they are much faster and the total RAM was above 820mb which is a really good thing. the usage of RAM in ideal state is very minimum also the touchwiz launcher had no unnecessary reloads as far as i checked. i guess we need to wait few more days until samsung releases the official version. may be in that all the RAM issues will be fixed.
Use titanium backup to freeze the bloat.
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even i have the same issues with the home screen. i dont use the default TouchWiz launcher, i use Nova. I made it a system app by moving the apk to the system folder. after this the launcher's performance is much better compared the past. even though it still reloads sometime after i launch some heavy apps like GTA or few other games.
what i think about the heavy RAM usage when compared to the SGS2 is the use of many background process for the motion and other smart features in SGS3. you can try disabling the few you dont use much, it might help reduce the heavy RAM usage but there isn't much we could do about the RAM usage.
i tried few of those unofficial stock 4.1 jelly bean ROMs, compared to the official ICS they are much faster and the total RAM was above 820mb which is a really good thing. the usage of RAM in ideal state is very minimum also the touchwiz launcher had no unnecessary reloads as far as i checked. i guess we need to wait few more days until samsung releases the official version. may be in that all the RAM issues will be fixed.
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Care to share how do you make nova a system app? Using omega v13.
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Care to share how do you make nova a system app? Using omega v13.
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the easy way to do it is by Titanium Backup Pro. first your phone should be rooted then Open Titanium Backup > Select the App you want to convert > then choose "Convert to System App"
if you dont have TB Pro then you must have a File Manager App with Root access.
make sure your system folder has write access
go to the location /data/app
search for the file "com.teslacoilsw.launcher-1.apk"
move that file to /system/app
restart your phone
After changing Nova to system app you will definitely feel the difference in its performance.
Yes, the ram is not to use the phone and he drove.
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Phone itself does ram processes to manage load and use.
LG9 ROM has excellent memory usage. With stuff open I now idle around 480. Not very often does it go into the high 600's like before.
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the easy way to do it is by Titanium Backup Pro. first your phone should be rooted then Open Titanium Backup > Select the App you want to convert > then choose "Convert to System App"
if you dont have TB Pro then you must have a File Manager App with Root access.
make sure your system folder has write access
go to the location /data/app
search for the file "com.teslacoilsw.launcher-1.apk"
move that file to /system/app
restart your phone
After changing Nova to system app you will definitely feel the difference in its performance.
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Alright great. What if I want to revert it?
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Alright great. What if I want to revert it?
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move back the same file from /system/app to /data/app and restart the phone.
Hey xda
I have recently fallen in love with the stock android look. I really dont want to waste my warranty by flashing and rooting so i just use 3rd party apps for it. I use holo locker (free) and nova launcher and wanted to know if this will affect any ram or battery perforlance? If i check my ram with having no apps opened, im already at 600 - 650 mb used of the 832mb. I also want to know if using those apps will use more battery than the stock samsung ones? Or atleast noticable.
Thanks in advance
Mutn
mutn10 said:
Hey xda
I have recently fallen in love with the stock android look. I really dont want to waste my warranty by flashing and rooting so i just use 3rd party apps for it. I use holo locker (free) and nova launcher and wanted to know if this will affect any ram or battery perforlance? If i check my ram with having no apps opened, im already at 600 - 650 mb used of the 832mb. I also want to know if using those apps will use more battery than the stock samsung ones? Or atleast noticable.
Thanks in advance
Mutn
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Battery no clue, ram, I assume it will use more ram as you run more apps.
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Yes of course ur choice of launcher will affect ram usage for example the stock touching uses about 50 mb with widgets
Nova launcher uses about 45 mb
Zeam launcher uses about 25 mb
And default launcher on a nexus 4 that is goggles launcher uses only 19 mb but of course it lacks much of functionality
Regarding ram u should not worry about free ram even of u dont use nova and use touch wiz or even if u use default launcher in nexus 4 that is google s launcher u will get ram usage to about same 600-660mb without doing anything
This is because of the way in which android works android believes that free ram is wasted ram so even if u have 200 mb free android would rather fill it up with apps than keep it free bcos more apps in ram = more apps that will open fast when u click them
Now this wouldn't mean u wont be able to run more apps for example when u open an app say that needs 200mb ram android would clear apps from ur lru that j's least recently used list and give u the desired amount of ram that the app needs
But yes on the contrary using a heavy launcher would mean more ram occupied by that launcher that would reduce the no of apps that can be kept in ram at one time...... But it wouldn't anything except multitasking a bit that too only a bit.....
Rest choice is urs
Regardong battery I don't think it would Mae appreciable difference
Just to add a little bit.....and for the benefit of knowledge sharing......it's worth noting that every running process has a priority level assigned to it which dictates how easily it is killed when ram is needed, and obviously things like games will get killed as a priority over essential system processes.
That is all I know
Is there any way to solve redrawing applications
As when I open 4 app for example and I switch between them
2 or 3 if them may close .
And when I switch again to app I was using it reloads .
I changed to omega rom then to persues it have same problem
Reloads the application when I get a call or pressing homebutton
I think the main problem is the ram issue always 700+ of 832
I got i9300 v4.1.2 persues rom
There is no real solution to it as it is the ram management.
What you could do is to try jkay framework, it allows you to lock apps in memory.
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or better - exposed framework
I tried jkay multitasking fix with seyah kernel its better but it cant last long
I will search about exposed thnx
Hello!
While playing bigger games like Samurai vs Zombies or Plants vs Zombies..I noticed when switching apps and returning to the game ..the game is reset..because of this i lose all my progress..is there any fix to this?
read above
I have a problem .. some times when i switch on the screen everything changes to very small even the navigation bar icons .. its like the resolution changes and everything will be small .. ill.post a screenshot when it happens again .. a workaround i go to screen resolution and change from hd to fhd then back to hd and the wallpaper , icons, settings and text comes back to normal size.
Help is appreciated
Never happened to me. Are you using some kind of 3rd party launcher ?
yes i use buzz launcher ,, but i am using this launcher since 3 years
1st on HTC butterfly S
2nd on Lenovo Zuk z1
3rd on Nexus 6P
never had this issue , this is the 1st time its happening in mate 10
hwoarang626 said:
yes i use buzz launcher ,, but i am using this launcher since 3 years
1st on HTC butterfly S
2nd on Lenovo Zuk z1
3rd on Nexus 6P
never had this issue , this is the 1st time its happening in mate 10
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Write to the app developers to optimize it for Huawei's EMUI.
hwoarang626 said:
yes i use buzz launcher ,, but i am using this launcher since 3 years
1st on HTC butterfly S
2nd on Lenovo Zuk z1
3rd on Nexus 6P
never had this issue , this is the 1st time its happening in mate 10
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it is launcher problem my friend, send your question to their support. maybe not fully compatible with oreo. if u don't have this problem in default emui launcher so nothing we can do for u
thank you guys
I use only default launcher and I have the same problem.
I tried factory reset and I installed all apps independently.
No backups, but without change. ?
I was afraid I'm the only one. ?
We have to wait for the update ?
Maybe you turned smart resolution ON?
Turn smart resolution off. It will be OK.
think you have one-hand-mode active
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Turn smart resolution off. It will be OK.
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Well quite opposite in here.I used to have the resolution on HD+ for the power saving reason and the problem occurred once a day.
So i have turned that smart resolution ON and from that moment all is ok.
Thanks for your advice even it works the other way around.
Go to Settings -> Smart assistance -> One-hand UI
Now, here you will see two options, Mini screen view and Shifting keyboard.
Tap on Mini screen view and turn on the slider
hello lads
i'm using 2gb kenzo with havoc os v2.9
my launcher: poco launcher (installed as system app, havoc default launcher removed)
i also removed/deleted swap region and disabled swap/zram totally because i thought apps were transferred to swap region and thats why everything was so slow to load again but i learned that wasn't the case.
my problem is this:
phone can't and doesn't use all of the available (1845mb) memory. the lowest free ram amount i have seen was ~240 mbs. when i see that both my game froze so i had to quit and phone launcher was removed from memory/app killed which takes up ~100mb ram and took 10 seconds to relaunch.
i mean if there is ~240mb free memory why is the launcher removed from the RAM!? it's only 100mb! and if there is ~240mb free memory why is my game is freezing at the first place!? i mean if there isn't enough memory game just should be force killed or frozen, whatever etc.. but there is no reason for any kind of freeze in the whole system, not the notification bar, not the launcher, not the keyboard!
also system ui (~100mb memory usage) is killed too! i can't even see the notification bar when trying to do anything else on the phone... i have to wait 5-10 seconds to load it when i swipe to open it.
when i use firefox, upon loading up a new page, free ram goes up from 400 to 700 mbs! so the phone is killing launcher, gboard and even system ui in the background to give more ram to firefox, which is ok and logical => only and if only there isn't free ram! but while system is doing that there is already 400 mbs of free ram! first those free ram should be given to the firefox, and when that is not enough system only then should start killing other apps, and should never kill apps like launcher, system ui, telephone ui, even keyboard! also there always more than 250mb is free when using firefox, but launcher, gboard, system ui is already dead at this point, i can't even take calls... and those took exactly 250 mbs total! i mean if there is always at least 250mb free ram while using firefox why is my launcher,gboard and system ui apps are killed and removed from the RAM! it doesn't make any sense to me at all.
what can we do to fix this stupid ram management? is this problem linux based or only android is like this?
thanks in advance for any kind of explaining/url that explain the problem thoroughly in technical terms
example pictures: i'll upload video if anyone wants to see how the user experience is for further investigation.
waltran said:
hello lads
i'm using 2gb kenzo with havoc os v2.9
my launcher: poco launcher (installed as system app, havoc default launcher removed)
i also removed/deleted swap region and disabled swap/zram totally because i thought apps were transferred to swap region and thats why everything was so slow to load again but i learned that wasn't the case.
my problem is this:
phone can't and doesn't use all of the available (1845mb) memory. the lowest free ram amount i have seen was ~240 mbs. when i see that both my game froze so i had to quit and phone launcher was removed from memory/app killed which takes up ~100mb ram and took 10 seconds to relaunch.
i mean if there is ~240mb free memory why is the launcher removed from the RAM!? it's only 100mb! and if there is ~240mb free memory why is my game is freezing at the first place!? i mean if there isn't enough memory game just should be force killed or frozen, whatever etc.. but there is no reason for any kind of freeze in the whole system, not the notification bar, not the launcher, not the keyboard!
also system ui (~100mb memory usage) is killed too! i can't even see the notification bar when trying to do anything else on the phone... i have to wait 5-10 seconds to load it when i swipe to open it.
when i use firefox, upon loading up a new page, free ram goes up from 400 to 700 mbs! so the phone is killing launcher, gboard and even system ui in the background to give more ram to firefox, which is ok and logical => only and if only there isn't free ram! but while system is doing that there is already 400 mbs of free ram! first those free ram should be given to the firefox, and when that is not enough system only then should start killing other apps, and should never kill apps like launcher, system ui, telephone ui, even keyboard! also there always more than 250mb is free when using firefox, but launcher, gboard, system ui is already dead at this point, i can't even take calls... and those took exactly 250 mbs total! i mean if there is always at least 250mb free ram while using firefox why is my launcher,gboard and system ui apps are killed and removed from the RAM! it doesn't make any sense to me at all.
what can we do to fix this stupid ram management? is this problem linux based or only android is like this?
thanks in advance for any kind of explaining/url that explain the problem thoroughly in technical terms
example pictures: i'll upload video if anyone wants to see how the user experience is for further investigation.
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U need zram if u r on 2gb kenzo. And havoc is not good idea. Havoc has too much customisation make ram heavy. So use lighter and moderate roms like Aex.
Excrima x28 is default with zram.
Black_Stark said:
U need zram if u r on 2gb kenzo. And havoc is not good idea. Havoc has too much customisation make ram heavy. So use lighter and moderate roms like Aex.
Excrima x28 is default with zram.
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thanks for answer, this makes sense now
do you know which android 9 ROM uses the lowest ram ?
waltran said:
thanks for answer, this makes sense now
do you know which android 9 ROM uses the lowest ram ?
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Install telegram app and join rn3 community group and other kenzo rom channels. U can ask here. U will get more replies on ram management. I dont use chrome or firefox.
https://t.me/rn3dev
https://t.me/kenzoromnews
https://t.me/KenzoRoms_News