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From what I understand, the 8GB of internal storage on the DX2 is divided into 2GB for apps, 4.3GB free to do whatever with, and the rest for Android. Right now out the 4.3GB of free storage I have ~800MB unused, which implies I've used 3.5GB. However, when I connect my phone to my PC and scan the contents of that 4.3GB of free storage, it shows that there is only 2.2GB of data on there. Where is the remaining 1.3GB and is there any way I can access/delete it to free up space?
I thought around 2gb was set aside for application storage.
I have no idea how much stuff u have on ur internal storage but u may want to move storage for pictures and.music to external storage..u can just move music files and the DCIM folder to external sd card and reboot which should free up some space...also try clearing cache from stock recovery to see what that frees up if u have never done that...
also in camera app settings to make ur pics store directly to sd card there is a setting for that so u don't have to manually move them...
Hy Drippis Welcome to the forums,
First off let me say if you want to solve a problem with your phone if you follow what ashclepdia says you'll never go wrong he has a great deal of knowledge on these phone's.
Second I never liked this type of labeling system for the storage on this phone.
Third a short explanation of the storage on our phone's.
Our phone has the following, according to VZW and Moto:
- 8GB of internal storage. This breaks down as 2 GB secure memory and 6 GB of usable memory.
- 8GB of external storage which refers to the removable SD card behind the battery.
In the 2 GB lives the Android system files and installed applications with most of their associated data. Some programs are accustomed to using the "sd card" which I will get back to in a minute. You can look at the status of this 2 GB in 2 different ways: 1. Settings - Storage - Application storage, "Available Space"; 2. Settings - Applications - Storage Use - All - Application Storage (on the bottom of the screen).
The 6 GB can be viewed by: 1. Settings - Storage - Internal Storage; 2. Settings - Applications - Storage Use - Media Area.
When you move things to the Media area, you are taking a portion of the installed app from the 2GB and moving it to the 6GB, which is similar to the way in tho older phones, you moved apps to the SD card. So, the question is why do we move apps to the SD card? In older phones there was far less "internal storage" and you would literally run low on memory for apps. New phones have much more space, so unless you are installing lots and lots of apps, it shouldn't be a problem.
With our phone, they have included internal, hard wired, SD Card-like storage, which can be used, mounted/unmounted, just like an external SD Card. The Media Area is simply a folder on this remaining 6 GB area. In some cases, this is automatically done by some apps, for backup purposes or caches.
Hope this is of some value 2u..
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Thanks for the responses. Although informative, they didn't answer my primary question so let me clarify. Not enough storage isn't the problem. I've already set up and moved all my pictures, movies, music, etc. to my 32 GB external sd card. My issue lies with the 4.3 GB of free-to-do-as-you-please storage on the internal sd card.
Out of this 4.3 GB
I've used 2.2 GB
And it says I have .8 GB free
Which leaves 1.3 GB missing
I guess I'll boot into recovery and wipe cache to see if that does much.
Not sure if this matters with regard to this issue, but I had been running P3's pre-rooted GB since I got this phone and earlier this week I flashed Eclipse 1.3 (loving it). I did wipe data before applying the zip.
Drippis said:
Thanks for the responses. Although informative, they didn't answer my primary question so let me clarify. Not enough storage isn't the problem. I've already set up and moved all my pictures, movies, music, etc. to my 32 GB external sd card. My issue lies with the 4.3 GB of free-to-do-as-you-please storage on the internal sd card.
Out of this 4.3 GB
I've used 2.2 GB
And it says I have .8 GB free
Which leaves 1.3 GB missing
I guess I'll boot into recovery and wipe cache to see if that does much.
Not sure if this matters with regard to this issue, but I had been running P3's pre-rooted GB since I got this phone and earlier this week I flashed Eclipse 1.3 (loving it). I did wipe data before applying the zip.
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I CAN say that if u are running 1.3 eclipse on p3s GB u are on the wrong kernel and that may cause some problems ...
not sure if that's what's causing this issue for u or not. .
also when on eclipse the sdcard and internal storage are flip flopped. to see what space u have on internal storage go to settings>storage>sdcard....that is ur internal storage space when on eclipse....
bootstrap does not recognize that flip tho fyi....
my first recommendations is getting on the 2.3.4 kernel by sbf to 2.3.4
if u flashed 1.3 over p3droids rooted gb then u are still on 2.3.3 kernel ..
which can cause issues...since any eclipse 1.0 or later needs u to have the 2.3.4 kernel...only way to change kernel is sbf or OTA update.
there is a sticky on how to sbf in this forum...don't be intimidated...it is very simple...follow instructions ...
edit::: how bout a screenshot of ur storage setting screen and also ur about.phone screen.((screen shot er (or er2) from market works just fine))
Look in a file manager and see if you have a file named ".trash-1000" or something similar. If you are viewing your files on a PC, it will be a hidden folder. See if you have any files in there. When you delete something it creates a .trash folder and keeps it on your storage device like the recycle bin does on your PC. I think its supposed to "empty" itself but may not have. If you have files on there, you can just delete the whole .trash folder. Just a thought.
Hello guys,
after flashed so many ROMs, I see my internal storage with lots of folders...
Some folders starting with . (dot) and some normal.
I know that some of these folders were created when installed some apps.
But now, I'm very happy with lastest MROM, I want to do a real clean in my internal storage.
And I think the "trash" (not really trash, but maybe old rom configs, etc) are still in my internal storage.
Every folder in internal storage can be removed? If yes, can I just delete them from windows?
Any of these folders are used by android system?
Thank you very much!
Of you just flash the rom then you can go ahead and delete everything I'm the internal storage. Yes there are some needed files but from what I know android with automatic create back the needed files. I usually format my internal storage and add card after I flash a rom I plan to keep. I don't keep anything important on my storage but you get the point.
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The Android system couldn't care less about anything in the user storage. Those are mostly your pictures, videos, music, whatever. Some of them however (including the "dot" ones) are the applications' config or state files, if you delete those the app will just go back to freshly-installed state. In short, there is no way to stop the system itself from working by doing anything to the user storage (unless of course you've modified the system itself).
Thank you guys!
I will clean my internal storage then.
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This device is plagued with a miserably small storage space to store applications on; 160MB system storage and 1GB internal memory. Although I've been moving the compatible apps to the "SD card" a.k.a. internal storage, that 160MB goes insanely fast. I've used link2sd and it helps but doesn't exactly fix the problem, and I would like a permanent fix.
My question to everyone here is how would I go about resizing the partitions safely? I know it has been done for Kindle Fire so it IS possible, but every device is different and I really don't want to brick this phone quite yet.
I am hoping that it is possible to remove the internal storage partition and extend the system partition by that 1GB just so I know for a fact that I'll never worry about app storage again; if not that at least shrink the internal storage and add 500MB to the system partition.
This phone is currently rooted and equipped with clockwork mod recovery, superuser, and busybox. The stock rom has also been backed up via CWM recovery.
Hope to hear from you guys soon!
[Edit] Also I realize this is a cheap phone, but it most definitely does what I need it to other than the lack of useable app storage.
Not to be that guy, but I'm bumping. This thread hasn't had a view in about 12 hours.
Any thoughts, or suggestions? Just want to tell me I'm crazy and shouldn't do it? lol
Hi there, noob speaking... (at least in terms of Android)
Let's start with the fact that I bought rooted phone with Cyanogenmod alredy installed which is my 1st Android device. That way I omitted few steps of learning how to root, how to flash it, etc. not to mention that I'm not a Linux guy, so even the way system handles folders and files is new for me. As the problem is more phone-related than system-related I'm posting it here, on XDA.
I'm trying to learn how to partition an "internal SD card" to make it work with Link2SD. I've found lots of tutorials how to do this with an external memory card, but there is not much info about doing the same with internal storage. I've found a tutorial for a diffrent phone, but I'm worried that droid devices seem to be very diffrent and simply retyping everything without understanding what I'm actually doing may cause more harm than good.
My biggest objection is the fact that I'm alredy using my internal SD and beside various media files (photos, music, etc.) there are lots of system, or app related stuff there. There are folders like .android_secure which as I guess store app-related files (or even parts of apps that I moved to SD with build-in feature). If this was Windows, I'd simply back up everything, format it, partition into "general storage" and "app memory" and put backed up files back directly onto new partition only worrying to keep correct letters assigned to new partitions. I'm preety sure that doing same in Android (by copying everything to PC and back to phone) would not work because all those permisions, or am I wrong?
Anyway - Any advice how to do this?
Additional question is related to accessing whole phone memory via PC connected by USB. I know that Android phones are made with security in mind and "system" partition is hidden when connecting USB, but there should be some other way than browsing everything from some phone apps with root permissions. I'd really like to browse my phone both for educational reasons and to check what really takes up space on my "system storage". I'm suspecting that some app went crazy eating lots of space, because once every time I uninstalled something my storage after few minutes was again at 20mb level and it continiued for some time.
BTW: Is there any reason why having about 200mb empty space for apps is not enough to install or update some small applications, while other install even when just 100mb is left?
Tl;dr:
-How to partition internal SD to make it work with link2sd while there are some system/app files on internal SD alredy?
-How to browse "system memory" from PC via USB?
-Why some apps don't install when there is still 200mb+ free space?
Hi Guys!
Just wanted to get this straight once and for all from you, the experts.
I have bought this cheapo Chinese device (yeah, I know...)
The guy selling it swore on his life that the device had 12gb of storage for app installation.
I didn't quite believe that so I asked him to send me a benchmark screenshot to see what was the storage situation and he sent me this:
i.imgur.com/KAyugUv.jpg
So as it says, while it has 12.5 GB of "Internal Storage", it only has 0.68 GB available of System Storage...
And my understanding is that, lots of apps simply Won't install anywhere else besides the System Storage, and even if you can Move the app to the internal storage, it will Still take up some space on the system storage...
Am I understanding this correctly?
If that is so then, does that mean that after my apps use up that measly 680 MB of space on the device I am "SOL" and I won't be able to install anything else on the device??
Thanks for the help!
crodps said:
Hi Guys!
Just wanted to get this straight once and for all from you, the experts.
I have bought this cheapo Chinese device (yeah, I know...)
The guy selling it swore on his life that the device had 12gb of storage for app installation.
I didn't quite believe that so I asked him to send me a benchmark screenshot to see what was the storage situation and he sent me this:
i.imgur.com/KAyugUv.jpg
So as it says, while it has 12.5 GB of "Internal Storage", it only has 0.68 GB available of System Storage...
And my understanding is that, lots of apps simply Won't install anywhere else besides the System Storage, and even if you can Move the app to the internal storage, it will Still take up some space on the system storage...
Am I understanding this correctly?
If that is so then, does that mean that after my apps use up that measly 680 MB of space on the device I am "SOL" and I won't be able to install anything else on the device??
Thanks for the help!
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You can set the setting to directly install to Internal Storage
AzrulHisyam said:
You can set the setting to directly install to Internal Storage
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Thanks!
This unit has android 4.4.4
Could you post a walkthrough on how to do that so that no apps take space under System Storage?
crodps said:
Hi Guys!
Just wanted to get this straight once and for all from you, the experts.
I have bought this cheapo Chinese device (yeah, I know...)
The guy selling it swore on his life that the device had 12gb of storage for app installation.
I didn't quite believe that so I asked him to send me a benchmark screenshot to see what was the storage situation and he sent me this:
i.imgur.com/KAyugUv.jpg
So as it says, while it has 12.5 GB of "Internal Storage", it only has 0.68 GB available of System Storage...
And my understanding is that, lots of apps simply Won't install anywhere else besides the System Storage, and even if you can Move the app to the internal storage, it will Still take up some space on the system storage...
Am I understanding this correctly?
If that is so then, does that mean that after my apps use up that measly 680 MB of space on the device I am "SOL" and I won't be able to install anything else on the device??
Thanks for the help!
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look ..if he means by system storage (the size of the ROM that will be installed) that mean you have 12 GB for your apps and that what i think it means(no android system can take 12gb !!)......and for moving your apps....you can try towelroot to root your device and install any app that can help you moving your apps....or try to go to settings>>apps>>and press the menu button and see if there is a option called...preferred installation bath or something like that>>>set it to removable sd card
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look ..if he means by system storage (the size of the ROM that will be installed) that mean you have 12 GB for your apps and that what i think it means(no android system can take 12gb !!)......and for moving your apps....you can try towelroot to root your device and install any app that can help you moving your apps....or try to go to settings>>apps>>and press the menu button and see if there is a option called...preferred installation bath or something like that>>>set it to removable sd card
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I found this on another page:
"System Storage" is where the OS and the System Applications are installed. This could also be considered where the User application are installed (based on your question). User installed applications are installed in /data/apps, settings and app data is stored in /data/data, and then application cache data is stored in /cache. These are all part of the "System Storage".
Internal Storage is an area that is used like an sdcard. As far as the Android OS is concerned, it is an sdcard. Some applications may save data to it, but it is mainly used as direct storage for your stuff. Like pictures taken with the camera, music, ringtones, things like that.
You cannot just adjust the size of system memory. Is it technically possible, yes. But doing so could require you to have knowledge of linux tool, rooting, custom roms, recoveries, and even possibly having to compile your own linux kernel and ROM or other information that I am not thinking of at the moment. Which is well beyond the scope of this site.
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So that basically means is that all apps by default will install themselves or lots of info about them on the 1gb System Storage... And that translates to running out of space almost instantly if I start installing apps...
Perhaps the Root option could help alleviate some of this space constriction by forcing all apps to install in the Internal storage and leave the System storage completely alone?
crodps said:
I found this on another page:
So that basically means is that all apps by default will install themselves or lots of info about them on the 1gb System Storage... And that translates to running out of space almost instantly if I start installing apps...
Perhaps the Root option could help alleviate some of this space constriction by forcing all apps to install in the Internal storage and leave the System storage completely alone?
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yeah that's right ..root can help...but i don't think 12 gb is gone like that just for system !> :cyclops: