Camera replacement with z3c's model? - Xperia Z5 Compact Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Given that on recent versions of android the phone cannot handle properly the camera ( resolution limited to 8.0 mp and very bad focus on low distances ), I was thinking about trying to switch to z3c camera.
First of all, the hardware side. Looking to pictures, dimensions looks very similar, so does the connector. Does it actually fit ? Only a try could tell.
On the software side, z3c is very well supported by lineageos. Could be possible to just switch drivers ( and libraries ) to make it work?

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ISO 12800 camera from Xperia Z3 to Z2.

Hi!
As you can see on the IFA, the new Xperia Z3 has got ISO 12800 in camera. And I have got a question. Is possible to get ISO 12800 on Xperia Z2? Because hardware is the same like in Z3 so difference is only in software, yes? Will it be possible to convert? Because I don't know what to do. Wait for Xperia Z3 or buy Z2 and wait for mod.
Fempter said:
Hi!
As you can see on the IFA, the new Xperia Z3 has got ISO 12800 in camera. And I have got a question. Is possible to get ISO 12800 on Xperia Z2? Because hardware is the same like in Z3 so difference is only in software, yes? Will it be possible to convert? Because I don't know what to do. Wait for Xperia Z3 or buy Z2 and wait for mod.
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We will see soon.Im almost sure that we could get the option for our Z2's.Stay tuned 1 more week and we will find out for sure.Dont rush for the Z3 :highfive:
What's ISO exactly? Yeah I know it and heard about it a lotta times before. But what exactly is it? I mean if I have the ISO 92387459328756238765723238759872 setting in my camera, does it mean it's the best camera in the world?
No.
High iso sensitivity is good in the dark, higher iso means more lit up images, but as I experience high iso in phone makes picture look like it's painted with watercolors.
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guys,
any update on this?
love to get my hands on the ability to capture pics at iso 12800.
What's the max ISO in Z2?
elkolodj said:
What's the max ISO in Z2?
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3200 is max ISO on Xperia Z2.
Also i want to say, dont get high hope for this ISO settings, because z3 have much wider lens (new g lens series on it), and it could be hardware features, because wider angle lens is able to pick up more light then narrow one on Z1/Z2.
But never say never, i just want to let you know that camera had more upgrade on z3 then you think, so dont get high hope for this one.
because z3 have much wider lens (new g lens series on it)
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Where did you read this? Because I can't find any info about this. Yes, I know that sony on website tell to us about his wider lens in Z3 but as I know, this is between Z3 and any other phone (not Z2, Z1). So there is not any hardware difference, maybe in overclocked CPU but I think it is also software change.
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Where did you read this? Because I can't find any info about this. Yes, I know that sony on website tell to us about his wider lens in Z3 but as I know, this is between Z3 and any other phone (not Z2, Z1). So there is not any hardware difference, maybe in overclocked CPU but I think it is also software change.
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At first brush, Sony's newest flagship sports the same 20.7 MP Exmor sensor with 1.12 micron pixels as its predecessor, the Z2, but Sony touted that the kit now has the newer generation G Lens optics, and other improvements under the hood, such as being the first flagship that can boast up to 12800 ISO sensitivity in night mode.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/First-Sony-Xperia-Z3-camera-samples-are-here_id60188
No, really. All that Sony needed to do was make the best better, and it has done so here thanks to a few choice tweaks. For starters there's a new 25mm G lens for wide angle shots - with an Xperia Z2 on hand, you can immediately see how much more the Z3 fits in frame, which is good news for all those group shots.
http://www.stuff.tv/sony/sony-xperia-z3/review
New lens and probably sensor (which is more sensitive)
I guess there's no news on this :/
Considering it only reaches those 12800 in some modes, with a reduced resolution and, most of all, that the low light sensitivity gets much worse after unlocking the bootloader (wiping the DRM-protected camera algorithms), it sounds to me like at least a good part of it is software.
Some touted features of newer model cameras have been made available to previous devices with no trouble, can only hope that's the case with this.
The higher ISO and much better looks (IMO) are the only reasons why I'm looking at a Z3 instead of the, much cheaper by now, Z2. I wish that feature could be brought to the older device.
Xpeeia Z2 camera total ISO is 6800 but in manual its limited to 3200
Maybe with some camera modding we can unlock the total iso
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Xpeeia Z2 camera total ISO is 6800 but in manual its limited to 3200
Maybe with some camera modding we can unlock the total iso
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Any news on this? Could we mod the Z2 cam to shoot at 12.800 ISO?
It's true the Z2 max is 6.400 ISO and it's quite a high value for a mobile, but it could be fine to reach 12.800 ISO like Z3... I think it's actually just a software matter...
juanmaasecas said:
Any news on this? Could we mod the Z2 cam to shoot at 12.800 ISO?
It's true the Z2 max is 6.400 ISO and it's quite a high value for a mobile, but it could be fine to reach 12.800 ISO like Z3... I think it's actually just a software matter...
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No, Z2s hardware is only capable to 6800
Z3 has a slightly different camera sensor which alows it to 12800
You could probably modify the camera app to show higher values but i dont know how to do that
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No, Z2s hardware is only capable to 6800
Z3 has a slightly different camera sensor which alows it to 12800
You could probably modify the camera app to show higher values but i dont know how to do that
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Honestly, I don't think 6.400 or 12.800 are hardware actual isos in any of these phones. Even in DSLR, usually their highest isos are interpolated by software. For example in my Canon 550d (t2i), the highest real iso is 6.400, but you can activate 12.800 iso option and if you install "magic lantern" hack, you can even activate 25.600.
But you're right, probably it's a very deep feature in the camera driver or something like that and it's almost impossible to "port". And could we try to use exactly the same camera files in z3?
Someone posted comparison pictures for nighshots with z2 and z3.You guys probably saw them and i can say that there is almost no difference between the two phones and the ISO difference as well.Its not of a big deal afterall ^^

[Q] Is There a Possibility of replacing Camera Image Sensor of Android Smartphones?

Suppose I have a Samsung Smartphone which have 8 MP camera. What if I want to add the HTC's 8 MP camera sensor? Is it possible by modifying firmware? I have seen camera sensors of smartphones and all of them are similar in Size and Shape. Even connecting sockets are same. Since Camera sensors are generally outsourced from other companies, the socket and pins must be standardized. All we need is replacing the driver in firmware and it might be a possibility that we don't even need that too if the camera sensor came from same company.

Wide-angle lens distortion fix?

Hi!
I recently got my lovely OnePlus X. Everything is where it needs to be, can't be more happy!
Except for the front facing camera, where the phone suffers from the wide-angle lens distortion syndrome which lots of new recent phones have.
The only way where I can fix this is by zooming a little bit so that the warp map for the camera no longer is "being used" even though it's already there?
The point is that I pretty much liked my front facing cam back when I had my Nexus 5.
Since I use Snapchat alot; when taking dank selfies, I just look like a fat fish in certain angles. If I use the default camera app however and zoom a little bit in, it's all fixed. How can do this for Snapchat, since it does not support front zooming for Android (yet?).
I have it rooted with Xposed installed and ready to go. Should I use some alternatives? Can I remove the warp map hardware wise? Can I change some "hardware-ish" setting so that it returns to normal mode? I just want it to be like my old lower fov Nexus 5.
Thanks!

Can Camera Performance be improved on Redmi Note 3

Can camera performance be improved with software tweaks or is it just that Redmi Note 3 uses uses bad hardware/sensor?
I suspect that the problem is related to the sensor/hardware
In poor light conditions the camera is bull****, but in good light is pretty good, idk why because the sensor is f/2.0
Yeah, I'm pretty sure, it's a hardware thingy. Numbers aren't meant anymore. You can see, the camera is 16MP with f/2.0, but it's quality says otherwise.
I compared photos taken with RN3 with Mi4i's, having f/2.0 sensor as well. The photos taken with Mi4i were crisp & clear and with RN3, were noisy & grainy. I guess, Xiaomi didn't use a good sensor to cut down the price.
I wonder if it is upscaling some phones are really like 8 MP but use software interpoling to upscale, so I guess you could try taking a picture at 8 or 13 MP and see if there is any difference - just an idea, I will test when I get some time.
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I wonder if it is upscaling some phones are really like 8 MP but use software interpoling to upscale, so I guess you could try taking a picture at 8 or 13 MP and see if there is any difference - just an idea, I will test when I get some time.
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I don't think this is happening. It's not a matter of lack of resolution, it's more to do with sensor quality. Xiaomi wouldn't lie about their cameras.
Guys the pixel size from the kenzo is one of the smallest on the market. In good light the pictures are pretty good. But in more dark areas the pictures are really bad, thats because of the pixel size. Its hardware limited and there aren't many software improvements. So live with it or buy another phone
Can use hardware camera from other device and patch kernel and drivers?
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Guys the pixel size from the kenzo is one of the smallest on the market. In good light the pictures are pretty good. But in more dark areas the pictures are really bad, thats because of the pixel size. Its hardware limited and there aren't many software improvements. So live with it or buy another phone
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I have no complaints, the pictures look similar to my Samsung Galaxy Tab Pro 8.4 , perhaps because of the samsung brand cmos ..ok actually I'm not sure what sensor is in the samsung tablet,
I did notice my samsung tablet has way better closeup zoom capabilities though, where the kenzo will start to blur at same range - not a huge deal unless you need to take pictures of flowers or bugs ...etc, perhaps it has a macro mode I missed, haven't had too much time to mess around with the camera - I'll get to it eventually
(Camera)Damn that's saddening.But maybe the little software improvements can give some changes you know...
Everyone should post a sample picture from their device using the stock camera app(don't forget to turn off geo-tagging), to see if the output is similar across multiple rn3p maybe some have better/worse sensors?

Portrait mode should be feasible

I've seen recently released phones which have a similar setup like the G5 with one normal and another wide angle sensor on the back, such as the Xiaomi A1. And they have the ability to combine the inputs of both sensors to post-process the blurry 'bokeh" portrait mode effect.
Which makes me wonder why this can't be done on the G5/G6? How much modification of the A1 camera app would it take for this to work? I'm pointing out A1 specifically because the camera app has already been ported to other Xiaomi phones.
These other phones don't have a wide angle lens. They use a telephoto one instead which helps create the effect
You probably would not be able to just port over that app. But it might be possible to create the same effect by cropping the wide angle lens back to the same or slightly more than the standard camera. But that probably won't work too well, since you already have half the resolution on the wide angle lens, and you need to cut it down even more to even get close to the other lens' angle
The A1 uses a wide angle as the secondary camera with the primary being a telephoto. But I've seen the wide angle shots and they don't look like they have much of a fisheye effect that the LG G5 has. But I do think with a bit of lens correction this may be doable.
But I don't have the skills for this.
Sorry to diggout this old subject
But I bought a LG G5 recently for 150$, I'm very happy with (apart from ghosting screen effect) and I'm really interested in portrait mode
I'm a java developer (and recently Android), if anyone still interested, I can spend time on it, it would be possible I think
Portrait mode for lg g5 request
Please please develope portrait mode for LG g5 ... And thanks in advance ...

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