Root without losing data - Samsung Galaxy S9+ Questions & Answers

Hello,
What is the easiest way to root a Samsung galaxy S9+ (model) with an apk or a computer?
I've found some one click autoroot but apparently it's not safe to use it? (like king root, kingoroot, cfautoroot)
Also is it possible to root the phone without having any additional icon of the root app (like supersu icon after rooting).
Also can I root without loosing any data?
Thank you for your help

There are lots of guides on this forum which will show you how to root. Different guides use different methods or programs. Read them and pick the one which you feel most confident performing.
Rooting is inherently unsafe. You always risk bricking your phone. You can follow the instructions to a tee but if a download has so much as one bit incorrect, expect problems. Whether you can recover from it depends on what part of the process is corrupted.
Virtually every rooting method results in data loss these days. Sorry.

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Best Root Method for what I want to do (simple)

I know, there are a lot of threads on rooting the Razr, but what I want is the simplest way to do a root that:
Works with a Mac (or at least a Windows VM running on the Mac)
Is easily un-rootable
Has the least risk of bricking my phone
Will still allow me to get ICS OTA once it becomes available (maybe this week?) by unrooting.
All I want to do is to root so that I can get rid of some of Verizon's 'bloatware', plus use rooted tools like ad-block, busy box, file manager (root), etc. I'm not going to install another ROM (at this time anyway).
So... based on that, which root method should I use? (supply a URL to the software/procedure if possible).
My current version is 6.12.181.XT912.Verizon.en.US, Android 2.3.6
Any advice appreciated.
P.S. I've rooted many times before, but that was with an HTC device, which I understand is much easier to root than a Motorola device.

[Q]Maual Rooting

Hi All,
In my quest to learn a little more about my device, I've decided that I want to know how rooting is actually done manually. Where it stands, my device is currently rooted using a CF Autoroot Odin flashable (recovery?).
I saw that Super SU provides a CWM flashable zip but I suspect that it's the same as sideloading the application or installing it from the store and that won't be enough to get rooted. Or is it?
Bumping my thread :laugh:
oreo27 said:
Hi All,
In my quest to learn a little more about my device, I've decided that I want to know how rooting is actually done manually. Where it stands, my device is currently rooted using a CF Autoroot Odin flashable (recovery?).
I saw that Super SU provides a CWM flashable zip but I suspect that it's the same as sideloading the application or installing it from the store and that won't be enough to get rooted. Or is it?
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(1) please read the FAQ and stickies to understand what rooting is and why CF autoroot has nothing to do with recovery
(2) cf autoroot, if I am not wrong, but I might be, injects files that will enable you to have full access to the device, after that for instance you can flash a new recovery, use apps that need root etc. super user is the app to control which apps you allow to obtain root.
chrismast said:
(1) please read the FAQ and stickies to understand what rooting is and why CF autoroot has nothing to do with recovery
(2) cf autoroot, if I am not wrong, but I might be, injects files that will enable you to have full access to the device, after that for instance you can flash a new recovery, use apps that need root etc. super user is the app to control which apps you allow to obtain root.
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I've read and followed the procedure for rooting ang flashing with a custom recovery previously but I've followed your suggestion and re-read it anyway, in case I missed something or my memory loss kicked in again.
Perhaps you are correct. I was a little confused since I flashed it with Odin as well but come to think of it; it's like an upgrade package that, as you mentioned, uploads files to the device that give Superuser Access.
after that for instance you can flash a new recovery
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I've flashed a custom recovery before rooting but I suppose that only applies to some devices. Samsung is great because it has Odin!
Alright, so SuperSU only allows me to control what applications require root access (something like User Account Control for Windows).
Thanks for clearing that up!
As for my original question, the manual rooting process and what's required to gain root access seems undocumented since there are a ton of methods to accomplish it automatically. I hope someone can point me to the right place to understand what CF Autoroot or other apps actually do to gain root.

how to root i9205 on UCNA2 firmware?

hi, i have a simple question, is it possible to root my device? i've never root my mega 6.3 since i bought it...... but i heard that the recent firmware have some problems in the possibility of rooting it.
there are a lots of guide but everyone say a different method. OK I AM A NOOB OF MODDING.
but is quite difficult to understand guides that are different in this way:
1) some indicates to just use an apk autorooting the device
2) some do require to change thekernel + manually install the superuser apk
3)not permanent root....
4) others......
so, please be patient......:angel: i only want to find a "normal" root method.......and IF POSSIBLE a root that could allow me to easily UNroot the device to be able to update my firmware OTA in the moment samsung will update our great device to kitkat
If you are a noob at modding don't even bother with rooting. Its dangerous and BTW I think your firmware has KNOX which the GMega doesn't have a workaround.
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realista87 said:
hi, i have a simple question, is it possible to root my device? i've never root my mega 6.3 since i bought it...... but i heard that the recent firmware have some problems in the possibility of rooting it.
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If you are brave enough you can try it using this tutorial
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2574953
But read it thoroughly and if you do not understand one thing though - do not attempt to try.
Read forums and learn till you can understand what you are doing lest you have quite expensive paperweight... I am not responsible for what you do with your phone!
my previous phone was rooter, the optimus 3d and the ascend mate.
i don't need toor for extreme modding but just to install a custom recovery for a nandroid backup and for use SOME APP THAT REQUIRE root to work properly.
i never installed a recovery but i read everywhere that it is a lot usefull in case of some errors, to restore the previous backup made 1:1 (nandroid)
Every modding attempt must start from root and (optionally) custom recovery. In fact - rooting itself is modding and quite heavy from system point of view. If you want to change ONE THING in system, you have to root your phone. Doing this you are tripping 'warranty flag' and from now on your warranty is void.
If you have firmware with KNOX and new bootloader - tripping this flag is irreversible. But as long as you do not attempt to flash older firmware (before KNOX) it does not affect the operation of the system. Trying to flash older firmware makes your phone softbrick because of tripping security mechanism in new bootloader.
If you already rooted your phone it is resonable to flash custom recovery and by this have wide possiblity making backups of your whole system (nandroid backup) or flashing custom ROMs

Different Root Methods

Besides they all roots the phone and different ways to root the phone; any difference between those methods? Like will one cause a phone to random reboot more often (stability), battery drain, wifi, wireless signal changes, performance, etc.
IOroot
PurpleDrake-Lite
Stump Root
thank you
PurpleDrake won't work with the VS985 (Verizon) version. I used IOroot on my phone because it was the only option at the time, but I would say go with Stump Root now as it is easier/faster. In general the only thing these root methods do is exploit a security vulnerability to install the su binary on the system partition, and that is the only lasting effect. With su installed, it is possible to assume root privilege. Random reboots, battery drain, wifi, wireless signal changes, and performance loss are not directly affected by root; however it is possible that an app that uses root privilege could impact these, so be careful what you install.
I used the stump root method because it came out the day after I got my phone and I'm lazy as hell. Any phone I've ever rooted has had multiple methods and they all do the same exact thing. So I wouldn't worry too much about it. @bobcat987 I couldn't have it it better myself.
Hyper_Warp said:
Besides they all roots the phone and different ways to root the phone; any difference between those methods? Like will one cause a phone to random reboot more often (stability), battery drain, wifi, wireless signal changes, performance, etc.
IOroot
PurpleDrake-Lite
Stump Root
thank you
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No. These different methods exploit a vulnerability that allows them to gain "root" to modify the file system to place the "su" binary on the system which in turn allows you to get privileged/superuser access.
These methods, although different, do essentially the same thing and leave "su" behind.
None of them affect the things you are talking about.
Ok, thank you everyone for the responds and information!
I used stump root. Works like a charm.
Is it pretty easy to reverse the root? My past couple phones I haven't rooted(sorta because it was difficulty, moto x), but also cause I've trying to get away from it because I was spending too much time on it lol. So I'm a little out of the loop, but is it pretty easy to reverse the root? In case of an update or something of that sort. I mainly want like wifi tether, ad block.
To unroot, you have to uninstall both su and whatever superuser app you are using to manage app access to su.
Otherwise you would have to flash the original TOT file to completely return the phone to fresh as shipped, and that is not exactly "easy".

I have some questions about after rooting

I started to think about rooting my g960f, it is a week year old device and the ads in apps annoys me so much. I will be using root to disable bixby through root uninstaller, if you have any other suggestions please tell. also I will be using mother of adblock, if you have any other suggestions please tell. I still have some questions.
- Is there any way to root the phone without custom recovery?
- will I be able to install system updates if I root the phone? if not how am I supposed to install them when the device is rooted?
- will it lose any of its features? if yes, which features?
- will I be able to go full stock again and gain all the lost features back?
I wont be installing custom rom as I already liked the stock rom but it needs some modification. I am sure that most of the people has the same questions in their minds so your answers would help many.
Pandemicc said:
- will I be able to install system updates if I root the phone? if not how am I supposed to install them when the device is rooted?
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As long as all you did was root the phone and did not change the OS to a custom one you should be able to get OTA updates. You should be able to install OTA updates normally, but you will loose the root install and have to do it again. Since OTA updates may patch any exploits a root install tool may use you might not be able to root the phone again (at least not until the root utility is updated to use a different method) after an update, so keep that in mind.
Pandemicc said:
- will it lose any of its features? if yes, which features?
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Once you root you might very well trip Knox. If Knox is tripped Samsung Pay, Secure folders is what I can find Google Searching and searching the forum here as what wouldn't work Samsung app wise. S-Health would also stop working, but I've read about potential ways to make S-health work again. I am not sure if those ways still work or not.
Other apps (financial, etc) may not work if the phone is rooted..
Pandemicc said:
- will I be able to go full stock again and gain all the lost features back?
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Sort of... Knox secure apps like S-health, Secure Folders, Samsung Pay will not work. Once you trip knox they will not work on the device ever again. This is because once knox is tripped it is tripped, it's a hardware e-fuse. You can not fix it nor reset it.
Other apps that just detected whether root is installed (or being used) should return to normal
thank you so much for the reply, lastly do you any suggestion for rooting? like the best way of doing it or use this guide and such.
Why root the device? You can use Adhell3 and block all the ads using knox itself
Pandemicc said:
thank you so much for the reply, lastly do you any suggestion for rooting? like the best way of doing it or use this guide and such.
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Personally I don't have a suggestion on a root method for your phone, but I do suggest you do some research on the subject. You can also look in the Galaxy S9 topic on XDA as that is the model you said you were using (G960F). In all honesty your gonna want to read up on what the process entails, what issues you might encounter and the risks involved... This is kind of a one way trip (metaphorically and essentially literally speaking) because if you trip knox (which you most likely will) you will void any warranty as well as permanently loose rather useful functionality on the phone (Samsung pay does come in handy IMHO). Not to mention root weakens the security of the phone and if your not careful you could (not saying you will, but could) run into a lot of problems.
Granted I am not saying you shouldn't root your phone but I am suggesting that in your case there is a more simpler method of doing what you want to do. Adhell3 was suggested and it's an app I use as well. Adhell3 will allow you to configure knox to do what you are seeking.. Knox can be configured to serve as a system wide ad blocking and it can be used as a way to disable apps on the phone (including bixby). There is more it can do, but I would suggest reading up on it (I can't give you all the answers, your gonna have to discover them also). Since your not trying to install an custom OS or changing cpu governors, cpu frequencies or anything Xposed related I would suggest looking into Adhell3 since that will do what you want without messing with Knox (or any potential issues with your phone from rooting). Also Adhell3 is not a permanent change to the phone, it can be fully removed, it doesn't weaken the security of the phone by allowing root access to the Android OS and file system on the phone and it will survive OTA updates.
Also if your looking to cut down on advertisements in applications I would suggest not installing as many.. Adblocking whether by hosts file or Adhell3 works by blocking the dns lookup of an advertisement. Both methods are not 100% perfect because if an advertisement comes from the same domain as where you are accessing (like facebook or Youtube sometimes do) then the advertisement will still be shown. Still to cut down on advertisements I would suggest going with Adhell3 over root.
- Is there any way to root the phone without custom recovery?
Nope, that means also that once you decice to flash custom recovery your knox will be triggered 0x1 in bootloader and it cant be reversed by flashing stock.
- will I be able to install system updates if I root the phone? if not how am I supposed to install them when the device is rooted?
Most devs here release latest build of their ROMs based on the latest security patches from official stock ROMs. You can just dirty flash the latest build over the previous one.
- will it lose any of its features? if yes, which features?
Samsung pay and secure folder. However you can try google pay as an alternative and you can use MagiskHide to make apps work even if the phone is rooted.
- will I be able to go full stock again and gain all the lost features back?
You can go back to stock, but you wont be able to use the features mentioned above. It's a one way irreversible process.
KevAngelo14 said:
- Is there any way to root the phone without custom recovery?
Nope, that means also that once you decice to flash custom recovery your knox will be triggered 0x1 in bootloader and it cant be reversed by flashing stock.
- will I be able to install system updates if I root the phone? if not how am I supposed to install them when the device is rooted?
Most devs here release latest build of their ROMs based on the latest security patches from official stock ROMs. You can just dirty flash the latest build over the previous one.
- will it lose any of its features? if yes, which features?
Samsung pay and secure folder. However you can try google pay as an alternative and you can use MagiskHide to make apps work even if the phone is rooted.
- will I be able to go full stock again and gain all the lost features back?
You can go back to stock, but you wont be able to use the features mentioned above. It's a one way irreversible process.
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Remember to include Xprivacylua to inhibit apps from seeing what apps you have installed. Have helped me out using bank apps as well

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