Can't receive authentication txt messages - Samsung Galaxy S21 Questions

My wife's s21 recently (one or two months) stopped receiving verification text messages from banks/SS etc. When the target phone number is changed to MY phone the messages come through just fine. We are both on AT&T and have the latest Samsung software (mine is a Note 20). We've made sure that there are no blocked numbers in her contacts.
Is there a SIM based setting that can cause this?
Can the carrier block MMS on her line from commercial sources? She can receive MMS from personal contacts.
We've been through the Samsung/AT&T tech support gauntlet but so far have not found the right person to help.

Try installing The Google - developed Messages app on the problem phone and making it the default SMS client.

What app is this???

Messages by Google - Apps on Google Play
Simple, helpful messaging by Google
play.google.com

goattee said:
Messages by Google - Apps on Google Play
Simple, helpful messaging by Google
play.google.com
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Thanks. I thought I she was using the Google Message app, but it was the Samsung Message app. I'll let you know if this works out.

goattee said:
Messages by Google - Apps on Google Play
Simple, helpful messaging by Google
play.google.com
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Well I tried the Google Messages App and still had the same difficulty

I've had trouble using Google Message's "Chat features", also known as Rich Communication Services (RCS), when my virtual private network (VPN) is active. If I stop or pause using the VPN then RCS seems to work. But with my VPN active the "Status" under Chat features shows "Connecting...". Given the choice between VPN and RCS, I've decided VPN is more useful. So I turn off "Enable chat features."
Try searching using term "Android" "RCS" and "VPN" and you may hit some useful links to read. If you do not use a VPN then you can probably ignore my entire posting.

I just want to be sure: have you made sure that you have made the Google Messages app the default client?
Go into the App Info for Messages.
And then tap on "Messaging app"
Be sure that you have selected the correct icon. (For some dumb reason there is no text to identify the names or developers of the respective messaging apps.)
(See attached screenshots)

goattee said:
I just want to be sure: have you made sure that you have made the Google Messages app the default client?
Go into the App Info for Messages.
And then tap on "Messaging app"
Be sure that you have selected the correct icon. (For some dumb reason there is no text to identify the names or developers of the respective messaging apps.)
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Yes I selected the Messages app as default with the odd icon

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[Q] Recieving Google Voice SMS text with stock Android messenger App

I have a Samsung Galaxy Note II that has been rooted and uses CleanROM 5.0. Today I noticed that my Google Voice messages are not only being received by the GV App, but also by the stock messenger App. Also, the stock messenger App will reply through whichever source the SMS came in (either Google Voice or Verizon). This surprised me, as I don’t remember ever getting GV messages that way before. Google Voice messages would only go to the GV App. I have also determined that I don’t even need to be logged on to the GV App for this to work. I tried Googling this to see if it was normal. All I could find was recent news of this being achieved by a Cyanogen Mod and there also being an App that will do this. I have neither a Cyanogen mod nor that App. What am I missing here? Why is the doing this for me? In any case, I’d like to use just the Stock App for everything I’d like to know how to make all outgoing messages default to using just Google Voice. Any ideas around why this started happening and how I can control how new messages will be sent?
Answered my own question (mostly)
OK, I found out why this started happening. Somehow I had changed the setting in Google Voice, so that text messages were getting sent my cell phone. So duh.... when I received a text to my Google account, it also was going to my Verizon account, and thus my stock messaging app. I found this out when I saw all the text charges Verizon was billing me for. So now I am using that App, called Stock Messaging Application with Google Voice, It looks somewhat like the stock application- but not quite (I like the stock better). It does catch messages coming in from both Google and and Verizon. I have it set to reply to all through Google- which it does. This is mostly what I wanted to do- the problem is, it's a little buggy. Sometimes a message won't go in or out. And as I said, I still like the stock app better.
So I still have a remaining question. Does anyone know if, or when, the breakthrough of this from July (for Cyanogen Mod) is showing up for other ROMS?
limulus said:
OK, I found out why this started happening. Somehow I had changed the setting in Google Voice, so that text messages were getting sent my cell phone. So duh.... when I received a text to my Google account, it also was going to my Verizon account, and thus my stock messaging app. I found this out when I saw all the text charges Verizon was billing me for. So now I am using that App, called Stock Messaging Application with Google Voice, It looks somewhat like the stock application- but not quite (I like the stock better). It does catch messages coming in from both Google and and Verizon. I have it set to reply to all through Google- which it does. This is mostly what I wanted to do- the problem is, it's a little buggy. Sometimes a message won't go in or out. And as I said, I still like the stock app better.
So I still have a remaining question. Does anyone know if, or when, the breakthrough of this from July (for Cyanogen Mod) is showing up for other ROMS?
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Just posting to let you know I am following your thread and I'm interested in the results as well. Let's hope somebody comes along with some more information. Do you have a link to that app?
Recieving Google VOice SMS test with stock Android messenger app
flvinny521 said:
Just posting to let you know I am following your thread and I'm interested in the results as well. Let's hope somebody comes along with some more information. Do you have a link to that app?
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Glad to see someone else cares- I was actually kind of surprised by the lack of feedback/interest in this. I would have guessed this would be of more interest to people....oh well.
The app I was referring to can be found on the Google Play Store- it is called "Messaging + Google Voice", the developer is Troxie.net
This board won't let me post the link.
The problem with this app is that it seems a little buggy. Sometimes messages don't send or receive- but in general it does what it says. I have also found the Text for Free service by Pinger works pretty well with the stock messaging. You can set it so that all of your cell phone service based texts will also go into the Text for Free app. Then when you reply, the outgoing message will go through text for free. However, this is a separate number- not a Google Voice number.
limulus said:
Glad to see someone else cares- I was actually kind of surprised by the lack of feedback/interest in this. I would have guessed this would be of more interest to people....oh well.
The app I was referring to can be found on the Google Play Store- it is called "Messaging + Google Voice", the developer is Troxie.net
This board won't let me post the link.
The problem with this app is that it seems a little buggy. Sometimes messages don't send or receive- but in general it does what it says. I have also found the Text for Free service by Pinger works pretty well with the stock messaging. You can set it so that all of your cell phone service based texts will also go into the Text for Free app. Then when you reply, the outgoing message will go through text for free. However, this is a separate number- not a Google Voice number.
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I actually use the Sprint integration with Google Voice, so I am using only one phone number, my Sprint mobile number. I am really just trying to set it up so that if I am at my PC and I send an SMS with the web interface, that message will also be displayed on my phone. Right now, I can see that message in my google voice app, but not any third party SMS app (like Textra, which I use). I want to be able to use Textra to send all my SMS and MMS, and have it sync any messages I send using the google voice web interface as well.

Can't stop "NetworkLocationService" and "Google Messaging Service"

Can't stop "NetworkLocationService" and "Google Messaging Service"
Both of these (NetworkLocationService & Google Messaging Service) are constantly running. It says "This service was started by its application". Any way to tell which application starts these services? When I stop them, they pop right back up (within 30 seconds or so). I read through some other posts and see that if Google location services, or the Standalone GPS services are active then the network location service will also be active. However on my phone (Droid 3, Android 2.3.4), I have all my location services turned off (Google, GPS, Standalone, and VZW (Verizon) all off).
The network location is from your carrier it is needed by the phone apps. The second is your messaging. Both are tied together.
So are you saying that even if I have my Verizon messaging off that service still needs to be running? Also, what messaging are you referring to? MMS messaging? If it's email, I don't use a gmail email account.
DmaxGuy said:
So are you saying that even if I have my Verizon messaging off that service still needs to be running? Also, what messaging are you referring to? MMS messaging? If it's email, I don't use a gmail email account.
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Yes the mms messaging. Those 2 will always be running.
Ok zelendel, I got you (and thanks for the responses, but I I'm still confused. I also noticed that there was a "Google Play Services" process loading as well (and had a ton of services associated with it). I uninstalled it and now these two (NetworkLocationService and Google Messaging Service) don't pop right back up! However, they do seem to reappear after a few hours. So after reading your response, I stopped them and then have both, sent and received, mms messages and they haven't popped back up yet. Is there anyway to tell specific function causes them to reload?
DmaxGuy said:
Ok zelendel, I got you (and thanks for the responses, but I I'm still confused. I also noticed that there was a "Google Play Services" process loading as well (and had a ton of services associated with it). I uninstalled it and now these two (NetworkLocationService and Google Messaging Service) don't pop right back up! However, they do seem to reappear after a few hours. So after reading your response, I stopped them and then have both, sent and received, mms messages and they haven't popped back up yet. Is there anyway to tell specific function causes them to reload?
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You would have to have a running log cat to see what's causing those to activate. Odd that Google play services activated the messaging one. Unless it's parts of Google's cloud messaging feature. Network location is understandable as that tells it which store to load for country based apps.
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You would have to have a running log cat to see what's causing those to activate..
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Is this from the adb logcat command? I have a log file and it does show plenty of NetworkLocationService lines, but I have no idea what I'm looking at... Can you give me some additional advice on what specific steps I should take to figure this out?
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Odd that Google play services activated the messaging one. Unless it's parts of Google's cloud messaging feature.
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I thought this was a bit odd myself. All of this is interesting and has raised my curiosity level.
Thanks again for all your help!

[Q] SMS on hangouts not working

Guys tried sms from hangout but when I go to settings in the hangouts app.
It doesn't show me the SMS option whereas I can see the SMS option in
My mobile motog2 which also has the same lollipop versionas of my n9
Now what?
I'm using hangout version 2.5.83281670
I'm using the n9 lte version
Somebody please help
on a tablet you will need to have a google voice account and that its linked to hangouts
Dude... I hava done everything... For reference please check the attached screenshot of my hang out settings
Oh the whole section is missing.
On your phone, under the settings for your account does it list both your phone number and your Google voice number?
i've got the same problem
If you look at Settings > Wireless & Networks > More do you have a "Default SMS app" set? As I understand it until there is a default app set ( the Hangouts app) then in Hangouts > Settings menu will not have an SMS option (just displays your account name and "Add Google account")
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Dude... I hava done everything... For reference please check the attached screenshot of my hang out settings
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For this to work, your GMAIL account needs to have GOOGLE VOICE enabled with a PHONE NUMBER.
I'm not certain, but you might also need to have HANGOUTS DIALER installed.
When you do that, a new section will appear in the settings menu (after the google account synchronizes), BELOW the "HANGOUT NOTIFICATIONS" section, called "GOOGLE VOICE - {your google voice number}". In that new section, you will find two checkboxes; "Incoming phone calls", and "Messages". Add a check beside "Messages", and you will have SMS over Google Voice.

[APP][XPOSED][LP-MM] XVoice++ - Use Google Voice through SMS apps

This module enables the use of other SMS apps to send and receive messages through Google Voice. When this module is activated, any SMS messages sent will be rerouted through Google Voice, and any messages that are received by the Google Voice app will be displayed in SMS apps.
Setup:
Download the APK and install.
Open the app, enable it, and select the account you want to use.
Open Xposed, activate the module, then soft reboot.
You will get a notification to sign in to authorizing the app to access your account. Tap the notification, then tap allow. For some reason the notification is not dismissed automatically; you can dismiss it manually.
If the module does not work at this point, try soft-rebooting again.
Known issues:
This module will only work with the old Google Voice app, version 0.4.7.10 or lower. If you already updated to a newer version, you must uninstall it and sideload the old version. You can find the latest working version here. Once you've downgraded, open the Play Store and set the app not to auto-update, so you won't run into the same issue later. This is fixed as of v3.1.2.
When I had the default SMS app is set to the AOSP Messaging app (com.android.mms, not to be confused with Google Messenger), the module would not work for outgoing messages. On one device, incoming messages did not work either. I was using version 5.1.1-720affab4e. I'm still not sure what causes it.
On my S3 test device, I sometimes experienced a crash of the system process on boot. This did not seem to affect the functionality of the module.
There is a known issue with Xposed reading SharedPreferences in certain situations, due to file permissions issues. With this module, this would cause that disabling the module from within its own settings would not help, and the only option would be to deactivate the module from inside Xposed Settings and soft-rebooting. I added some code to work around this, however it's possible that it could still occur. This is fixed (hopefully) as of v3.1.2.
Old issues:
Many of the old bugs present in the original XVoice+ are still in this version. These include:
Emojis may cause issues. (This issue should be fixed for incoming messages as of v3.2.0).
There is no support for MMS
Occasionally, messages may show up with the wrong timestamp, there may be duplicate messages, or there may be a delay before the messages appear.
Google Voice 5.0+
As mentioned above, the module will not work with the new updates to Google Voice. This is because they completely rewrote the code for the app, which would require XVoice++ to be rewritten as well to properly hook it. This is further complicated by the fact that Google obfuscated the code, making it much harder to figure out what is going on. Additionally, it is probable that with every update the code will be obfuscated diferently, requiring XVoice++ to be patched every time to support the new update. Since the whole point of this module is to replace the functionality of the Google Voice app, and it is functional with the old version, I will not be working on supporting the new versions of the app at this time. This is fixed as of v3.1.2.
Devices tested on:
Verizon LG G3 (vs985) running a custom build of CM 12.1
Sprint Samsung Galaxy S3 (d2spr) running CM 13.0 (11/17/2016 nightly) without phone service
Acknowledgements:
Koush
CM team
@runnirr
@B2OJustin
@iHelp101
Jake Hamby (a former engineer at Google, who helped maintain the internal SMS processing code for Android) for providing a lot of information about PDU structure and processing, and patiently answering my questions.
Xposed Repo
XDA:DevDB Information
XVoice++, Xposed for all devices (see above for details)
Contributors
BehindTheMath, @runnirr, @B2OJustin, @iHelp101
Source Code: https://github.com/BehindTheMath/XVoicePlus
Xposed Package Name: io.behindthemath.xvoiceplus
Version Information
Status: Stable
Current Stable Version: 3.2.1
Stable Release Date: 2017-05-08
Created 2017-02-15
Last Updated 2017-05-08
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Nice to see something happening with this. I more or less abandoned it after switching over to Hangouts. What are your plans for it though? I'd probably consider hooking into Hangouts for any future development.
Edit: Btw, this latest source has also been tested and confirmed working on Nexus 7 stock (without cell service) and at least one other phone with a touchwiz based rom + smart watch (Don't recall which kind). Though rom updates may or may not have changed that since then.
B2OJustin said:
Nice to see something happening with this. I more or less abandoned it after switching over to Hangouts. What are your plans for it though? I'd probably consider hooking into Hangouts for any future development.
Edit: Btw, this latest source has also been tested and confirmed working on Nexus 7 stock (without cell service) and at least one other phone with a touchwiz based rom + smart watch (Don't recall which kind). Though rom updates may or may not have changed that since then.
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Thank you for the feedback.
Truthfully, in my humble opinion, this app is mature. You guys have done a fantastic job of taking Voice+ and adapting it to a new platform. I only needed to fix the issues caused by new or changed Android internal code. Unless someone has a specific feature request, I think it's ready for a stable release.
That being said, there are a few things I would like to look into at some point in the future. The main one is the viability of supporting the new GV app. I never liked Hangouts. It was slow when it was first released, and it's still slow and buggy. 90% of my contacts use Whatsapp, and the GV app along with XVoice+ helped me with the handful that still use SMS. The only reason I still have Hangouts installed is to manage multiple accounts, and for VoIP calls. Now that the new GV app supports the former, and it looks like the latter is coming at some point, I would love to have XVoice++ support it so I could get rid of Hangouts entirely.
I am happy to see you figured out what I was unable to. In terms of Google Voice 5.0 you could in theory hook GCM messages directly. The class is "com.google.android.gms.gcm.GcmReceiver". You would use the same onRecieve hook already in the module. I have never seen GMS code obfuscated, so you likely would not have to worry about it. Even if a GCM message for some reason is not a text message the module would be able to filter it out (It checks the Intent contents).
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I am happy to see you figured out what I was unable to. In terms of Google Voice 5.0 you could in theory hook GCM messages directly. The class is "com.google.android.gms.gcm.GcmReceiver". You would use the same onRecieve hook already in the module. I have never seen GMS code obfuscated, so you likely would not have to worry about it. Even if a GCM message for some reason is not a text message the module would be able to filter it out (It checks the Intent contents).
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That's an interesting approach. I'll have to look into it when I have time.
THANK YOU!
OP first of all thanks for doing this!
Second I have a question, I'm still running CM11, because I use Voice+, the original utility that XVoice+ was based on. I have updated my google voice app to the latest version and Voice+ still works, I'm not sure how. You might consider looking at the source code for Voice+ and see if the type of hooks it uses are possible with xposed.
Again thanks for what you have already done.
KnightTim said:
OP first of all thanks for doing this!
Second I have a question, I'm still running CM11, because I use Voice+, the original utility that XVoice+ was based on. I have updated my google voice app to the latest version and Voice+ still works, I'm not sure how. You might consider looking at the source code for Voice+ and see if the type of hooks it uses are possible with xposed.
Again thanks for what you have already done.
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Voice+ works for you for incoming messages too?
Edit: I looked through the source for Voice+. They listened for the notification from the GV app, and then canceled it, which meant you had the notification flash for a second before being intercepted by Voice+. One of the benefits of XVoice+ was that you could disable the notifications completely in the GV app, and XVoice+ would intercept the message anyway.
iHelp101 said:
I am happy to see you figured out what I was unable to. In terms of Google Voice 5.0 you could in theory hook GCM messages directly. The class is "com.google.android.gms.gcm.GcmReceiver". You would use the same onRecieve hook already in the module. I have never seen GMS code obfuscated, so you likely would not have to worry about it. Even if a GCM message for some reason is not a text message the module would be able to filter it out (It checks the Intent contents).
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I looked at the GV 5.0 code some more. I couldn't figure out how to hook com.google.android.gms.gcm.GcmReceiver, but I was able to hook the com.google.android.apps.voice.backends.gcm.GcmListenerService, which is the entry point for the message in the GV app. It appears to be very easy to intercept the messages from there. The issue is, since GV 5.0 added support for multiple GV accounts, there's no easy way to tell which account the message is for. The GCM message comes with a user_hash field, but it's just a hash, and I can't find a list of corresponding accounts in SQLite or in SharedPrefs. I presume it's decoded somewhere in the app, however, the only code that references it is obfuscated. It would technically be possible to implement a setup routine which would send a test message and grab the user_hash for that message, but that's a bit inelegant.
BehindTheMath said:
I looked at the GV 5.0 code some more. I couldn't figure out how to hook com.google.android.gms.gcm.GcmReceiver, but I was able to hook the com.google.android.apps.voice.backends.gcm.GcmListenerService, which is the entry point for the message in the GV app. It appears to be very easy to intercept the messages from there. The issue is, since GV 5.0 added support for multiple GV accounts, there's no easy way to tell which account the message is for. The GCM message comes with a user_hash field, but it's just a hash, and I can't find a list of corresponding accounts in SQLite or in SharedPrefs. I presume it's decoded somewhere in the app, however, the only code that references it is obfuscated. It would technically be possible to implement a setup routine which would send a test message and grab the user_hash for that message, but that's a bit inelegant.
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Interesting, it is a nice discovery to have been made. Google has gone extremely with obfuscation recently. I also didn't realize they added multi-account support. My bad for giving any false.
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Interesting, it is a nice discovery to have been made. Google has gone extremely with obfuscation recently. I also didn't realize they added multi-account support. My bad for giving any false.
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No, I think your idea is the best option for supporting GV 5.0. We just need to figure out how to identify the accounts. I'm going to try to dig through the code some more.
It has been a while since I've played with Xposed but when I get a little extra time I'll see what I can come up with. Figuring out exactly what to hook has always been the troublesome part though. If it turns out you do need to make use of the account hashes, I'd suggest looking lower in the callstack rather than higher. ie; Find the source of the hashes instead of the final target. You can then map those to usernames as soon as they're generated.
v3.1.2
I've released a new version, v3.1.2. The primary new feature in this version is support for Google Voice 5.0+.
I spent some more time poking through the GV sources, and I found that the list of accounts and corresponding user_hashes are stored in a Base64-encoded field in SharedPreferences called "registered_accounts". I added some code to decode the list and check the incoming message against user_hash of the account we want.
I also released the module on the XPosed Repo, so now it can be installed through the Xposed Installer.
Unfortunately, I lost the password to the signing key. I created a new key, but this means you will need to uninstall the old version before installing the new one.
New user. Tested on Voice 5.0+. Works flawless so far! This is excellent!
I have no idea why Google decided to NOT allow the Voice 5.0+ to be default SMS app.......but this module works around that issue AND allows me to use my fav texting app in its place. Thank you!
Could you explain the Sync settings a bit more. I just want to understand better. For example, why did you include those settings in the app Are there battery/data implications to using them? What is the downside to disabling all the sync settings?
Stupifier said:
New user. Tested on Voice 5.0+. Works flawless so far! This is excellent!
I have no idea why Google decided to NOT allow the Voice 5.0+ to be default SMS app.......but this module works around that issue AND allows me to use my fav texting app in its place. Thank you!
Could you explain the Sync settings a bit more. I just want to understand better. For example, why did you include those settings in the app Are there battery/data implications to using them? What is the downside to disabling all the sync settings?
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When you send a message through XVoice++, XVoice++ doesn't put that message in the SMS database, the SMS app does. So if you send a message from another source, for example, the GV app or webapp, that message would not show up in your SMS app. Sync checks the master message list on GV's server to see if your device is missing any messages, and if it is, it sticks them into your SMS history.
It also has the benefit of catching any incoming messages that might have been missed. XVoice++ isn't perfect, and once in a while it won't catch an incoming message, sometimes because the GV app was sleeping (although I suspect this issue might be eliminated with GV 5.0+, since they switched to GCM). Enabling Sync will force XVoice++ to manually check if there are any new messages.
I personally have always had all the Sync options enabled, and the interval set to 15 minutes, and I haven't seen any issues. You can try it for yourself and monitor it. I don't think there's any reason it should impact battery or data usage, since it's just a quick request to GV's server. When I look the logs, it never takes more than a few seconds.
BehindTheMath said:
When you send a message through XVoice++, XVoice++ doesn't put that message in the SMS database, the SMS app does. So if you send a message from another source, for example, the GV app or webapp, that message would not show up in your SMS app. Sync checks the master message list on GV's server to see if your device is missing any messages, and if it is, it sticks them into your SMS history.
It also has the benefit of catching any incoming messages that might have been missed. XVoice++ isn't perfect, and once in a while it won't catch an incoming message, sometimes because the GV app was sleeping (although I suspect this issue might be eliminated with GV 5.0+, since they switched to GCM). Enabling Sync will force XVoice++ to manually check if there are any new messages.
I personally have always had all the Sync options enabled, and the interval set to 15 minutes, and I haven't seen any issues. You can try it for yourself and monitor it. I don't think there's any reason it should impact battery or data usage, since it's just a quick request to GV's server. When I look the logs, it never takes more than a few seconds.
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Thank you for this explanation. So now I'd like to test how well these sync features work. if I understand correctly, I could test this by simply sending a text using GV app directly.....Then open my SMS app and check to see if my SMS app actually shows this newly sent message. The Sync features directly affect how and when SMS app grabs new Incoming/Outgoing GV messages. Am I understanding correctly?
Stupifier said:
Thank you for this explanation. So now I'd like to test how well these sync features work. if I understand correctly, I could test this by simply sending a text using GV app directly.....Then open my SMS app and check to see if my SMS app actually shows this newly sent message. The Sync features directly affect how and when SMS app grabs new Incoming/Outgoing GV messages. Am I understanding correctly?
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Correct, besides for when you sent an outgoing SMS from the device itself, since then the SMS app stores it right away.
I'm so happy to see this working! Great job :victory:
one bug I've noticed, it seems to choke on accented characters. try sending " õœôöø ", for me it force closes both Voice and my SMS app

Question List of applications that can be uninstalled with adb commands

Can we post here the list of safe apps to uninstall with ADB commands?
I just downloaded APK Extractor from the Play Store - I looked for any logos of the apps I would never use and removed them. I can't list every single one as they're all gone now. I only had an issue uninstalling the SMS messaging app. Had to reinstall that one as the system automatically defaults to it. Without it installed, I wasn't getting any texts coming through. Lame!
Great info !
Then uninstal chinese apps is easy and without risk with Apk Extractor ?
Only keep the original sms app and choose an other that we choice for Message (for me it's Signal).
deweythesecond said:
I just downloaded APK Extractor from the Play Store - I looked for any logos of the apps I would never use and removed them. I can't list every single one as they're all gone now. I only had an issue uninstalling the SMS messaging app. Had to reinstall that one as the system automatically defaults to it. Without it installed, I wasn't getting any texts coming through. Lame!
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Does Google Messages or any other app work for sending and receiving texts if you do not uninstall the default messaging app?
I deleted:
com.heytap.music
com.heytap.cloud
com.coloros.calendar
com.coloros.calculator
com.heytap.speechassist
com.coloros.ocrscanner
com.heytap.browser
com.android.contacts
You delete calculator and contacts ?
[email protected] said:
You delete calculator and contacts ?
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Yes. I downloaded the Google contacts and Google calculator App
Mattycee said:
Does Google Messages or any other app work for sending and receiving texts if you do not uninstall the default messaging app?
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I don't think any messaging apps will work (Google Messages, Signal, etc.) because the Chinese ROM will force default to Oppo Messaging as soon as you receive an SMS/MMS.
[email protected] said:
Great info !
Then uninstal chinese apps is easy and without risk with Apk Extractor ?
Only keep the original sms app and choose an other that we choice for Message (for me it's Signal).
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Have you gotten Signal to work as the default app for both SMS and MMS (group messaging)?
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Have you gotten Signal to work as the default app for both SMS and MMS (group messagi
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taubmax said:
Have you gotten Signal to work as the default app for both SMS and MMS (group messaging)?
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No Signal don't work for default app :-(
And for mail i use AquaMail but Oppo force to official app Mail from Oppo ...
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No Signal don't work for default app :-(
And for mail i use AquaMail but Oppo force to official app Mail from Oppo ...
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How do you mean Oppo forces the official app Mail? It doesn't for me?
I've been using Blackberry Inbox for mail, and it works great and it is the default mail app on my Find N. I've actually uninstalled the official app (just using the normal app uninstall, not adb). So it doesn't force a different mail app for me, and in fact the official mail app is no longer on the phone.
I try now to uninstal official app Mail but in default app for mail it was already AquaMail but no notification for AquaMail ...
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I try now to uninstal official app Mail but in default app for mail it was already AquaMail but no notification for AquaMail ...
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I must admit, I have notifications turned off for Blackberry Inbox, as I find mail notifications annoying (as I get too many), and I check my mail regularly anyhow. But you should get mail notifications if you make sure that AquaMail is one of the 5 apps you allow to auto startup, allow it to run in the background, and you turn off battery optimization for the app. Another tip would be to pin the app in task view so that when the memory is cleaned it stays in memory.
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I must admit, I have notifications turned off for Blackberry Inbox, as I find mail notifications annoying (as I get too many), and I check my mail regularly anyhow. But you should get mail notifications if you make sure that AquaMail is one of the 5 apps you allow to auto startup, allow it to run in the background, and you turn off battery optimization for the app. Another tip would be to pin the app in task view so that when the memory is cleaned it stays in memory.
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Can you do the same that you've done with defaulting mail app with sms/mms app?
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Can you do the same that you've done with defaulting mail app with sms/mms app?
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I haven't tried as I'm fine using the stock SMS/MMS app, as I don't use SMS/MMS much (mostly Whatsapp/Wechat/Telegram, etc. these days). As I've said somewhere else, I usually try not to fight a new phone, but work with it, and the stock messages app works quite well, and has nice features like tap to fill when you receive a auth code, etc.
There is a setting to change the default messaging app; but others have had problems trying to use another messaging app or dialer/phone app as default (I assume did try setting the default to something else) and apparently it resets to the system default? Worth a go though.
Failing that, you could probably get it working using the same method that the community got the Nova Launcher working (combination of adb and tasker) -
Nova Launcher lock rotation brave toggle desktop-mode (Using Tasker)
Using Tasker to change the default launcher for OPPO FIND N, by canceling Oppo's method to enforce their launcher. -- Requirements 1- Tasker (paid ~3$). --- Autoinput (2$), for Brave desktop/phone mode auto switiching. 2- Launcher of your...
forum.xda-developers.com
conceptgate said:
I haven't tried as I'm fine using the stock SMS/MMS app, as I don't use SMS/MMS much (mostly Whatsapp/Wechat/Telegram, etc. these days). As I've said somewhere else, I usually try not to fight a new phone, but work with it, and the stock messages app works quite well, and has nice features like tap to fill when you receive a auth code, etc.
There is a setting to change the default messaging app; but others have had problems trying to use another messaging app or dialer/phone app as default (I assume did try setting the default to something else) and apparently it resets to the system default? Worth a go though.
Failing that, you could probably get it working using the same method that the community got the Nova Launcher working (combination of adb and tasker) -
Nova Launcher lock rotation brave toggle desktop-mode (Using Tasker)
Using Tasker to change the default launcher for OPPO FIND N, by canceling Oppo's method to enforce their launcher. -- Requirements 1- Tasker (paid ~3$). --- Autoinput (2$), for Brave desktop/phone mode auto switiching. 2- Launcher of your...
forum.xda-developers.com
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Many thanks for the feedback. I would totally be at peace with the Oppo messages app if could only receive group MMS texts. Are you successful there as well?
taubmax said:
Many thanks for the feedback. I would totally be at peace with the Oppo messages app if could only receive group MMS texts. Are you successful there as well?
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Again, sorry I haven't tried that, as I don't use group SMS/MMS messaging; I use Whatsapp/Wechat/Telegram for that type of group messaging. In the UK MMS messages are usually an additional (sometimes expensive) cost, and so it has never really taken off here as far as I'm aware; and everyone I know uses Whatsapp, etc. for that kind of thing.
I ended up disable-user the following apks :
package:com.coloros.karaoke
package:com.heytap.music
package:com.iflytek.speechsuite
package:com.coloros.weather.service
package:com.oplus.apprecover
package:com.oplus.pay
package:com.oplus.vip
package:com.heytap.reader
package:com.coloros.oshare
package:com.oplus.wifisecuredetect
package:com.oplus.appdetail
package:com.oppo.community
package:com.coloros.securityguard
package:com.heytap.speechassist
package:com.coloros.codebook
package:com.coloros.phonemanager
package:com.coloros.securepay
package:com.coloros.directui
package:com.coloros.video
package:com.coloros.filemanager
package:com.coloros.ocrscanner
package:com.nearme.instant.platform
package:com.coloros.floatassistant
package:com.coloros.childrenspace
package:com.heytap.htms
package:com.coloros.remoteguardservice
and uninstalled following:
com.heytap.cloud
com.finshell.wallet
cn.wps.moffice.lite
com.oppo.store
com.baidu.input_oppo
com.opos.ads
com.coloros.assistantscreen
com.heytap.browser
com.heytap.pictorial
com.heytap.smarthome
com.coloros.favorite
com.oplus.safecenter
The preinstalled music, video, reader, wallet and browser are pretty much just adware, get rid of them as quick as possible
These security apk are forcing you to input oppo account password to install apk, but please keep in mind, disable or uninstall them all-together: com.oplus.vip(yes it's related to apk installation), com.oplus.appdetail, com.coloros.securityguard, com.coloros.phonemanager, they are calling each-other when you install apps, by just removing some of them, you are risking breaking apk installer functionality, but I've tested after get ride of them, all non-sense just disappeared
And I personally will never use it's build-in password manager, voice assistant, float ball navigator, cloud service, file manager and baidu input so I disabled them, keep those you want
One thing, adb can't disable or uninstall built-in app store, and in some situation, I use it to install some Chinese specific apps.
deweythesecond said:
I just downloaded APK Extractor from the Play Store - I looked for any logos of the apps I would never use and removed them. I can't list every single one as they're all gone now. I only had an issue uninstalling the SMS messaging app. Had to reinstall that one as the system automatically defaults to it. Without it installed, I wasn't getting any texts coming through. Lame!
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Hi there,
Have you got a link to this app? As the one I have got doesn't seem to give me the option of deleting apps? Just extracting them
Many Thanks!
Oobermann said:
Hi there,
Have you got a link to this app? As the one I have got doesn't seem to give me the option of deleting apps? Just extracting them
Many Thanks!
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You don't delete them in the app. You have to delete them using a command prompt on your PC. The app just tells you the package name of each app so you know what to delete.

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