What model V60 to buy? - LG V60 ThinQ Questions & Answers

Good day,
I am a proud owner of a LG V20 H910 AT&T for about four years now.
Bought it back in early 2018 refurbished from ebay for about US$185.
I got very good service from this, I learned alot about roms, scripts, etc...
these are the issues I faced...
Very recently, phone started turning off when the battery is around or below 40%
After further investigation and cleaning the contacts, the battery seems to be swollen slightly.
Sometimes I can run it until below 20% until it powers down.
Lately I see it takes a long time to charge from this point.
The phone mic stopped working and gives of static noise/feedback to other caller until you switch to speakerphone then it works fine. This is for mobile calls and whatsapp/duo.
The headphone jack seems to short and stop music and activate google assistant every now and again.
This doesn't happen to all headphones, only some. If you don't move the phone or the cable, it works fine.
Download mode loads, but you get static on screen, tried reflashing with my stock and others but same.
Other than these problems, I totally love my v20 and it is still going.
I wanted to buy either a v50/v60/G8x.
I see LG is no longer making V series.
I like to tinker with mods and roms, what do you recommend
my max budget is ~US$220 and I see I can get these on ebay.
The main thing i like about my v20 is the dac, I use the force high impedance mode as I use it as a music player in my car's Hi-Fi. Is this possible on these units?
I want to go for the v60, what version TMO, Verizon, AT&T?,
I am on Digicel in Trinidad & Tobago. so this doesn't matter but what is the best version to buy for unlocking and future mods/dev.?
I remembered when I got the AT&T version of my v20, it never came with the Music app, and I only recently solved that issue.

Skylined said:
Good day,
I am a proud owner of a LG V20 H910 AT&T for about four years now.
Bought it back in early 2018 refurbished from ebay for about US$185.
I got very good service from this, I learned alot about roms, scripts, etc...
these are the issues I faced...
Very recently, phone started turning off when the battery is around or below 40%
After further investigation and cleaning the contacts, the battery seems to be swollen slightly.
Sometimes I can run it until below 20% until it powers down.
Lately I see it takes a long time to charge from this point.
The phone mic stopped working and gives of static noise/feedback to other caller until you switch to speakerphone then it works fine. This is for mobile calls and whatsapp/duo.
The headphone jack seems to short and stop music and activate google assistant every now and again.
This doesn't happen to all headphones, only some. If you don't move the phone or the cable, it works fine.
Download mode loads, but you get static on screen, tried reflashing with my stock and others but same.
Other than these problems, I totally love my v20 and it is still going.
I wanted to buy either a v50/v60/G8x.
I see LG is no longer making V series.
I like to tinker with mods and roms, what do you recommend
my max budget is ~US$220 and I see I can get these on ebay.
The main thing i like about my v20 is the dac, I use the force high impedance mode as I use it as a music player in my car's Hi-Fi. Is this possible on these units?
I want to go for the v60, what version TMO, Verizon, AT&T?,
I am on Digicel in Trinidad & Tobago. so this doesn't matter but what is the best version to buy for unlocking and future mods/dev.?
I remembered when I got the AT&T version of my v20, it never came with the Music app, and I only recently solved that issue.
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Personally I went with the U.S. Cellular unlocked version.Or,you can go with the T-Mobile version.Prefer it be unlocked,and the reason I say those 2 is because at least the firmware is downloadable unlike the AT&T version.But,there is a Qfil copy of the AT&T version in the Q&A post.From my readings they're all IMPL locked and I haven't found away around that yet.

I would like to know too. coming from a v40 that i bought for $300 and it lasted 4 years... I hope to do a similar run with the v60.
Not too worried about updating past android 11. But it does kinda suck the security updates stop at June 2021. My v40 is stuck at 8/20, and I'm already noticing some apps dont work with Biometric anymore.
It took many years before the v40 was finally moddadable to lineage... and I'm sure someone will figure out the v60, but I also worry that WIFI calling won't work if it ever gets lineage.
That said, if I am on ATT, and want to use WIFI calling, I should buy an ATT branded model, correct? If I buy a global model, and run it on ATT, it likely won't work with WIFI calling?

resiny said:
I would like to know too. coming from a v40 that i bought for $300 and it lasted 4 years... I hope to do a similar run with the v60.
Not too worried about updating past android 11. But it does kinda suck the security updates stop at June 2021. My v40 is stuck at 8/20, and I'm already noticing some apps dont work with Biometric anymore.
It took many years before the v40 was finally moddadable to lineage... and I'm sure someone will figure out the v60, but I also worry that WIFI calling won't work if it ever gets lineage.
That said, if I am on ATT, and want to use WIFI calling, I should buy an ATT branded model, correct? If I buy a global model, and run it on ATT, it likely won't work with WIFI calling?
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Yes,if you're on AT&T most definitely get the AT&T branded v60.With my V60 USC device it wouldn't make or receive any calls when the 3g shutdown hit.I had to cross flash my V60 with a Luns backup and that's the only way it would dial in and out again.I even went in to the engineering menu and enabled all the settings perfect for VoLTE and it still wouldn't call out.It's not IMEI specific either.I'm still trying to figure a work around for it,but nothing as of yet.

Ok. I just bought the lm-600am version

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Updating phone outside USA

Hello.
Is there a way to update my G5 H820 to Nougat from outside USA ?
I got AT&T working sim, I tried with it - not working...
Thanks !
I have same issue too. I have a zain sim in right now, next month i'll be in at&t land
I asked this question on the ATT forum and they said you can only get the ota while having an active sim inside the US.
My g5 is on cricket which shares AT&T towers and I still didn't get it. Bought a $10 sim, activated it. Still nothing, then put $10 of service on it and it poped up right away. $20 for 7.0, it better be worth it.
Nitro1max1 said:
My g5 is on cricket which shares AT&T towers and I still didn't get it. Bought a $10 sim, activated it. Still nothing, then put $10 of service on it and it poped up right away. $20 for 7.0, it better be worth it.
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I live in Israel, there is no AT&T here at all.
Don't worry guys 7.0 isn't very good.
If I could choose now, I would probably go back to 6.0.1 because it was just better. It performed faster, had a better UI as far as LG's skin is concerned, it was less restrictive, and used far less battery - especially when using Bluetooth. My battery drained 5% while writing this.
This is basically KitKat vs Lollipop (or XP vs Vista) again. Now being honest, which of those two would you rather have?
PHYCLOPSH said:
Don't worry guys 7.0 isn't very good.
If I could choose now, I would probably go back to 6.0.1 because it was just better. It performed faster, had a better UI as far as LG's skin is concerned, it was less restrictive, and used far less battery - especially when using Bluetooth. My battery drained 5% while writing this.
This is basically KitKat vs Lollipop (or XP vs Vista) again. Now being honest, which of those two would you rather have?
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I would go back too, 7.0 hangs once in a while and isn't as smooth. I'm going to try a factory reset because its pretty bad sometimes
On my G5 update are linked to the phone carrier not the sim I have.
I have a Telus unlocked phone it did the update with my fido sim inserted and I got the telus branded nougat software (fido have their own)

V30 US998 unlocked vs. Verizon version...

I'm probably jumping the gun by asking this question now, before the US998 is available, but I'm chomping at the bit to know...
I'd like to buy the unlocked version of the V30, but I understand from the other forums that I may be giving up:
- Verizon HD calling
- Verizon video calling
- wifi calling
- visual voice mail
In trade I'd be getting:
- potentially 128GB internal storage
- no VZW bloat or branding
- all of LG's backgrounds (a reviewer says big red disables many)
- maybe a working FM reciever (?)
Some of these are important to me, some not or can be replaced.
Can you think of any other differences I should be aware of?
Nay Tyzon said:
I'm probably jumping the gun by asking this question now, before the US998 is available, but I'm chomping at the bit to know...
I'd like to buy the unlocked version of the V30, but I understand from the other forums that I may be giving up:
- Verizon HD calling
- Verizon video calling
- wifi calling
- visual voice mail
In trade I'd be getting:
- potentially 128GB internal storage
- no VZW bloat or branding
- all of LG's backgrounds (a reviewer says big red disables many)
- maybe a working FM reciever (?)
Some of these are important to me, some not or can be replaced.
Can you think of any other differences I should be aware of?
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You'll get Verizon VoLTE -- but not Wi-Fi nor video calling.
Yes, you can have Verizon voicemail.
Those answers are based on the carrier unlocked LG G6 US997 released earlier this year, from people who have it and use Verizon. You should go over there and ask some questions. That will be the best predictor of the LG V30 US998.
I pasted some of the answers from actual users below.
jiggyman said:
I received mine and activated it yesterday. VoLTE works perfectly. No Video/WiFi Calling though. I love this phone! No bloatware!
Sent from my LGUS997 using Tapatalk
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VOICEMAIL
gillim74 said:
How do you get verizon vm working on the us997 everytuing else works but vm
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htcnext said:
Getting unlocked phones working on Verizon is still more difficult than it should be. Hypothesis: reps at the local stores don't get a commission on unlocked activations and do get commissions on carrier phones. If you want to avoid technical stuff suggest calling Verizon and threatening to switch to T-Mobile if they can't get it to work, do not go to local stores.
Regarding voicemail, I went with youmail from the play store. You might also be able to get the Verizon voicemail app working, I did not try that since I do not want any lame carrier apps on the device.
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gillim74 said:
Thanks for the response.got it working after calling verizon!!
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duke69111 said:
What did you have to do to get the VVM working on VZW? Thanks.
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gillim74 said:
Had to call them and have them reset the network
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Nay Tyzon said:
I'm probably jumping the gun by asking this question now, before the US998 is available, but I'm chomping at the bit to know...
I'd like to buy the unlocked version of the V30, but I understand from the other forums that I may be giving up:
- Verizon HD calling
- Verizon video calling
- wifi calling
- visual voice mail
In trade I'd be getting:
- potentially 128GB internal storage
- no VZW bloat or branding
- all of LG's backgrounds (a reviewer says big red disables many)
- maybe a working FM reciever (?)
Some of these are important to me, some not or can be replaced.
Can you think of any other differences I should be aware of?
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Regarding the fm radio. My Verizon branded G6 has the fm radio enabled, you just need to plug in headphones. It works with NextRadio and the LG radio app that I know of. The Verizon version needed files pulled and edited from xda forums to get LG's app working as it does not come with it preinstalled. It wasn't hard to install. An install of NextRadio from the play store just worked. The unlocked version probably includes the LG fm app. NextRadio is pretty snazzy, while the LG App is pretty bland and basic.
I've worked my mind around most things rooted vs unrooted and the biggest problem I have right now is not being able to turn on hotspot on my unlimited VZ plan. this could cause me to return the VZ version if root is impossible which it appears to be. although rooting a phone and playing with it will wipe out the battery prematurely. I've noticed this over and over. not sure I can live without the hotspot option. will absolutely not pay more to VZ to use my own existing plan.
johnp357 said:
I've worked my mind around most things rooted vs unrooted and the biggest problem I have right now is not being able to turn on hotspot on my unlimited VZ plan. this could cause me to return the VZ version if root is impossible which it appears to be. although rooting a phone and playing with it will wipe out the battery prematurely. I've noticed this over and over. not sure I can live without the hotspot option. will absolutely not pay more to VZ to use my own existing plan.
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Rooting a phone has nothing to do with battery life. It's just becoming admin of your own phone. The owner of the phone.
Rooting a phone will let you use your hotspot without carrier's permission.
If you mean custom kernels might favor performance over conserving battery vs stock kernel, you have a point. Which might make you have to charge battery more frequently. Thus shorter battery life over a several years period..
However, that is changing! Newer CPU governors like Alucard do a very good job of balancing performance and battery.
One thing you could do is root and run stock firmware, with an xposed module or app that will let you have your hotspot. Again, root by itself does not affect battery life.
ChazzMatt said:
Rooting a phone has nothing to do with battery life. It's just becoming admin of your own phone. The owner of the phone.
Rooting a phone will let you use your hotspot without carrier's permission.
If you mean custom kernels might favor performance over conserving battery vs stock kernel, you have a point. Which might make you have to charge battery more frequently. Thus shorter battery life over a several years period..
However, that is changing! Newer CPU governors like Alucard do a very good job of balancing performance and battery.
One thing you could do is root and run stock firmware, with an xposed module or app that will let you have your hotspot. Again, root by itself does not affect battery life.
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LOL.... trust me. viper4android, hotspots, trying all sorts of mods, and yes messing with kernels, changing OS every other week... battery life will get shot... every time, so yes it will... just comes with the territory.
regardless of how you try to fine tune the kernel to conserve. but I'm ok with all of it. I will just be bummed not to get the $200 card and the VR thing. So I guess I have to decide in the next 6 days how important hotspot is vs $300 worth of stuff.
johnp357 said:
I've worked my mind around most things rooted vs unrooted and the biggest problem I have right now is not being able to turn on hotspot on my unlimited VZ plan. this could cause me to return the VZ version if root is impossible which it appears to be. although rooting a phone and playing with it will wipe out the battery prematurely. I've noticed this over and over. not sure I can live without the hotspot option. will absolutely not pay more to VZ to use my own existing plan.
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Did you get this phone? Did hotspot work out of the box with unlimited grandfathered Verizon plan or will we have to get root?
wonderrx said:
Did you get this phone? Did hotspot work out of the box with unlimited grandfathered Verizon plan or will we have to get root?
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no. it did not. I'm jimmy rigging it by using the wifi extender to trick the hotspot to working but it requires that you connect to a wifi first. data isn't needed on the connect. it's hokey but works almost all the time. so I am now content. LG disabler squashed everything else so the phone is pretty snappy.
Nay Tyzon said:
I'm probably jumping the gun by asking this question now, before the US998 is available, but I'm chomping at the bit to know...
I'd like to buy the unlocked version of the V30, but I understand from the other forums that I may be giving up:
- Verizon HD calling
- Verizon video calling
- wifi calling
- visual voice mail
In trade I'd be getting:
- potentially 128GB internal storage
- no VZW bloat or branding
- all of LG's backgrounds (a reviewer says big red disables many)
- maybe a working FM reciever (?)
Some of these are important to me, some not or can be replaced.
Can you think of any other differences I should be aware of?
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Having only used rooted phones for the past 10 years or so, I had a similar quandary, although some of the particulars were different. The arguments in favor of the VZ branded phone were earlier release date, wifi calling, $200.00 discount, and EARLIER RELEASE DATE (I have a thing for immediate gratification). The arguments in favor of the US998 were choice of handset colors and the most important factor: ability to root.
I opted for the VZ LG V30 and have been very hapy so far. As far as the OP's concerns, I can say that the ability to insert a micro SD card eliminates that need for internal storage in excess of 64gb, which is plenty anyway. Also, the LG package disabler (https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/how-to/guide-make-v30-faster-smoother-t3693083) and the FM Radio apk (https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/themes/lg-fm-radio-app-download-verizon-v30-t3689294) resolve the bloatware issue and FM receiver issue respectively.
As far as my concerns, the LG package disabler also accomplishes some of the same goals that for which I would want to root my phone. One of the main reasons that I root my phones is too be able to block ads, and I have accomplished that by disabling Chrome and installing Samsung internet beta, as well as by supporting developers by purchasing ad free versions of the apps which I use frequently or finding ad free versions of apps when they are available.
I've mostly gotten over the fact that my phone is silver, especially since it's always in a case anyway.
al4d said:
Having only used rooted phones for the past 10 years or so, I had a similar quandary, although some of the particulars were different. The arguments in favor of the VZ branded phone were earlier release date, wifi calling, $200.00 discount, and EARLIER RELEASE DATE (I have a thing for immediate gratification). The arguments in favor of the US998 were choice of handset colors and the most important factor: ability to root.
I opted for the VZ LG V30 and have been very hapy so far. As far as the OP's concerns, I can say that the ability to insert a micro SD card eliminates that need for internal storage in excess of 64gb, which is plenty anyway. Also, the LG package disabler (https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/how-to/guide-make-v30-faster-smoother-t3693083) and the FM Radio apk (https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/themes/lg-fm-radio-app-download-verizon-v30-t3689294) resolve the bloatware issue and FM receiver issue respectively.
As far as my concerns, the LG package disabler also accomplishes some of the same goals that for which I would want to root my phone. One of the main reasons that I root my phones is too be able to block ads, and I have accomplished that by disabling Chrome and installing Samsung internet beta, as well as by supporting developers by purchasing ad free versions of the apps which I use frequently or finding ad free versions of apps when they are available.
I've mostly gotten over the fact that my phone is silver, especially since it's always in a case anyway.
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I have friends who are required to have carrier-branded phones and who cannot root. That's a well written post I'll share with them.
As for color choice I'm hoping LG will sell us the "open market" US988 in black V30+ configuration (or V30+ at all), but I'm becoming skeptical.
Interesting counterpoint, al4d.
There's also the matter of OS update timeliness. And security updates -- do they ever come from the the manufacturer? It seems like only carrier-specific releases get the media buzz.
Lastly, I'm sort of holding out for the Oreo release, just to ensure LG put all their best efforts into it. It would be a shame if 8.0 lands and it's a half-baked mess full of bugs.
Hey @ChazzMatt
Recently I've noticed that I have petty crappy signal and trouble with getting a GPS lock. I remember from the turbo having to flash a modem.
I'm running Stock LG at the moment purely for the camera, is there anything you recommend doing? Ive noticed I cant even change the apn settings.
When I hacked from US998 to VS996, I saw there were more "bars" being shown. Note, however, that "bars" can be changed to reflect different signal levels, so it may not actually be getting more/less signal. If I were careful, I would have looked at the numeric signal, but I missed checking that.
I'm running VS996 on our phones now, partly because of the VoLTE support as well... and all of that is working, so that's good.
I don't think you can flash just a "modem"... but I am interested to hear if this can be done...
Diego1751 said:
Hey @ChazzMatt
Recently I've noticed that I have petty crappy signal and trouble with getting a GPS lock. I remember from the turbo having to flash a modem.
I'm running Stock LG at the moment purely for the camera, is there anything you recommend doing? Ive noticed I cant even change the apn settings.
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Oreo now locks you out of APN settings (it knows what best, supposedly) but you can use an app Shortcut Master or Shortcut Master Lite to manually edit APN settings. Here's how to edit APN using that app. Of course that is NOT the V30 -- but it's still the same technique, and you would want to populate with your own APN information, not what they are using for their carrier. Here are instructions for Verizon on LG V30, at least for MMS.
As for modems, I know there are AT&T and Sprint TWRP flashable modems posted, but not sure about Verizon. You can fire up LGUP and manually flash VS996 modem partitions via DL Partition method, if you want to try that modem. Just UNcheck all partitions except for modems.

VS996 Functionality on US998 Variant (VoWiFi, HD Calling, HotSpot/Tethering)

Folks,
I know there's a mixed bag of posts among a bunch of threads that cover how to get Verizon VoWiFi/VoLTE and HD calling working with a US998 variant device and I've had success with those elements but in the process, found that Hotspot gets broken.
So, here's where I'm currently at; both VoWiFi and Hotspot are critical needs for me.
I have a Frankensteined LS998 that, on a purebred US998 ROM, Hotspot works flawlessly but VoWiFi does not and I've not had any success in getting it too either.
I ended up switching back to a purebred VS996 ROM and now have VoWiFi working but Hotspot functionality fails at the "You need to subscribe" lock out message.
I have tried to isolate what specifically is different between the two ROM's that would trigger Hotspot to fail like this in the VS996 ROM but have not had any luck.
I've played with a ton of settings via Shortcut Master, compared all the files in /system/etc/dsts/joan_vzw_170626 and tried "DF Tethering Fix" and a bunch of other random stuff based on bits an pieces I've picked up all over the web but am still coming up short.
Ideally I'd like to get VoWiFi working on a US998 ROM and, just for kicks, tried these steps https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=76613814&postcount=391 but it appears there is still some key VZW software missing.
It feels like getting the Hotspot working on the VS996 ROM is perhaps just something like an APN setting away (yes, I've tried adding DUN to the APN's list with no luck) so I'd be happy with either solution.
One thing I haven't tried is just flashing just the VZW modem to US998 to see if that may just bring the VoWiFi pieces across without compromising Hotspot but before I do that, I wanted to pose the question to the knowledgeable folks in these forums in case someone already has an answer or suggestion for me.
Is there anyone out there that's had some luck in this area?
Cheers,
Windza
Like you, I tried the mixed bag of techniques posted across forums to get VoWIFI going on my US998. I have also crawled hidden apps using Shortcut Master. Although there were glimmers of hope, none of the methods gave positive results.
I do have a pair of identical V30's and have thought about doing a side-by-side comparison to see if I can find the difference. One might be the Settings app itself. The bottomline is that I just don't have the time anylong to go down these rabbit holes and my will to battle with LG is attenuating rapidly. I do not need VoWiFi but HotSpot is a must so I am mostly content using the stock US998 Oreo rom.
BTW, if you want unthrottled hotspot bandwidth on Verizon, go into the APN settings on the phone and switch both APN Protocal and APN Roaming Protocol to ipv4. Then switch the ttl from 64 to 65 on any computer or device that will connect to the hotspot.
Windza said:
Folks,
I know there's a mixed bag of posts among a bunch of threads that cover how to get Verizon VoWiFi/VoLTE and HD calling working with a US998 variant device and I've had success with those elements but in the process, found that Hotspot gets broken.
So, here's where I'm currently at; both VoWiFi and Hotspot are critical needs for me.
I have a Frankensteined LS998 that, on a purebred US998 ROM, Hotspot works flawlessly but VoWiFi does not and I've not had any success in getting it too either.
I ended up switching back to a purebred VS996 ROM and now have VoWiFi working but Hotspot functionality fails at the "You need to subscribe" lock out message.
I have tried to isolate what specifically is different between the two ROM's that would trigger Hotspot to fail like this in the VS996 ROM but have not had any luck.
I've played with a ton of settings via Shortcut Master, compared all the files in /system/etc/dsts/joan_vzw_170626 and tried "DF Tethering Fix" and a bunch of other random stuff based on bits an pieces I've picked up all over the web but am still coming up short.
Ideally I'd like to get VoWiFi working on a US998 ROM and, just for kicks, tried these steps https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=76613814&postcount=391 but it appears there is still some key VZW software missing.
It feels like getting the Hotspot working on the VS996 ROM is perhaps just something like an APN setting away (yes, I've tried adding DUN to the APN's list with no luck) so I'd be happy with either solution.
One thing I haven't tried is just flashing just the VZW modem to US998 to see if that may just bring the VoWiFi pieces across without compromising Hotspot but before I do that, I wanted to pose the question to the knowledgeable folks in these forums in case someone already has an answer or suggestion for me.
Is there anyone out there that's had some luck in this area?
Cheers,
Windza
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Thanks for the response... glad to know I'm not alone on this.
In fact, I lol'd at you having identical V30's and considering looking at them side by side.
I happen to have 3 identical LS998 variants (1 with shattered screen, 1 with US998 ROM and 1 with VS996 ROM) and was sitting at the dining table yesterday doing exactly that with the 2 good phones... trolling through Shortcut Master/IMS/APN/PDN etc.
As you said, glimmers of hope but no positive results.
I found myself frustrated at my own lack of knowledge and experience with cell networks and then even really finding anything solid on the internet.
It seems like there's almost a black hole or void out there on the nitty gritty of cell network setups (perhaps it's unique per provider and considered proprietary/IP?).
It feels like the answers exist in understanding what the settings mean and using the right combinations but I'm with you in that I'm already time short and my resolve is nearly run out...
I'm going to try flashing the VS996 modem to the US998 ROM today... will report back when I know the result.
Can someone at least tell me what APN types like ia, ims, dun etc. mean specifically or point me in the direction of a resource that might?
Thanks for the response... glad to know I'm not alone on this.
In fact, I lol'd at you having identical V30's and considering looking at them side by side.
I happen to have 3 identical LS998 variants (1 with shattered screen, 1 with US998 ROM and 1 with VS996 ROM) and was sitting at the dining table yesterday doing exactly that with the 2 good phones... trolling through Shortcut Master/IMS/APN/PDN etc.
As you said, glimmers of hope but no positive results.
I found myself frustrated at my own lack of knowledge and experience with cell networks and then even really finding anything solid on the internet.
It seems like there's almost a black hole or void out there on the nitty gritty of cell network setups (perhaps it's unique per provider and considered proprietary/IP?).
It feels like the answers exist in understanding what the settings mean and using the right combinations but I'm with you in that I'm already time short and my resolve is nearly run out...
I'm going to try flashing the VS996 modem to the US998 ROM today... will report back when I know the result.
Can someone at least tell me what APN types like ia, ims, dun etc. mean specifically or point me in the direction of a resource that might?
Windza said:
It feels like the answers exist in understanding what the settings mean and using the right combinations but I'm with you in that I'm already time short and my resolve is nearly run out...
I'm going to try flashing the VS996 modem to the US998 ROM today... will report back when I know the result.
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Aaaaaand... the result is unsurprising. I know some folks were reporting anecdotal improvements after flashing the VS996 modem into US998 but I'm not seeing notable difference from where I was already at.
I was on US998 20e and flashed modem from VS996 20f but no luck... last resort is to try US998 20h and VS996 20k but I'm not holding my breath.
No matter what I override in the background, the consistent element on the US998 is the two switches in the attached s/shot are grayed out and unable to be toggled on (even though their equivalents in the background are on).
As soon as I flash a VS996 ROM, these switches can be toggled to get things working.
I will be of no help... But I'm definitely interested in this!
I've got US998 running vs996 stock pie with full functionality of Hotspot and vowifi. One thing I noticed when debloating my install was that removal of the Verizon phone app would cause the phone to not boot, so my guess is their app is one of the pieces of the vowifi puzzle.
Has anyone tried running Verizon phone app on a US998 Rom?
I am in the exact same boat.
Currently running US998 on Verizon VS996 only for hotspot. I also tried to get VoLTE running via https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/how-to/wtf-lg-v30-t3790500/post76613814#post76613814 but no luck. Was able to get the Verizon app to run but it didn't help with VoLTE. Possibly because I'm on a corporate plan so I don't have many options available in the app. Also missing RCS messaging features which I had on VS996 ROM, but maybe I need to try the "beta versions of Messenger" trick.
I also tried copying the HotspotProvision.apk and odex from US998 to VS996 rom but no luck there either.
Yet-another-'I want this'-reply. I use my phone for, in order, Tethering, maps, and phonecalls, and it's frustrating that using Verizon as a carrier means we have all sorts of compromises when it comes to functionality because they are supporting ancient network tech.
I'm just worried that in a world of folding screens and bull**** edge displays, actual good devices like the V30 are going to fall apart in the dev community. If we don't have a fix soon, I'm expecting never to get one.
Windza said:
So, here's where I'm currently at; both VoWiFi and Hotspot are critical needs for me.
I have a Frankensteined LS998 that, on a purebred US998 ROM,
* (Unauthorized Verizon) Hotspot works flawlessly
* but (Verizon) VoWiFi does not
I ended up switching back to a purebred VS996 ROM and now have
* (Verizon) VoWiFi working but
* Hotspot functionality fails at the "You need to subscribe" lock out message. (Because you're not paying for that Verizon hotspot service)
I have tried to isolate what specifically is different between the two ROM's that would trigger Hotspot to fail like this in the VS996 ROM but have not had any luck.
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See my parenthetical comments.
That answers your question. Your hotspot would work on Verizon firmware IF you paid for it, like they want. There's no mystery.
Whereas on US998, Verizon has no control over how you use your data. You get "free" tethering feature on US998 firmware.
But on US998 Verizon still has control over whether to grant Wi-Fi calling to devices on their network, and they decline to do that. Control freak Verizon makes you be on Verizon firmware for Wi-Fi calling to "encourage" you to buy their hardware (even though you didn't).
T-Mobile doesn't care and grants Wi-Fi calling on US998. So, it's not "Wi-Fi calling" issue -- it's a Verizon issue.
The difference between the two "ROMs" is one is based on firmware certified by Verizon and the other is not.
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ellomdian said:
Yet-another-'I want this'-reply. I use my phone for, in order, Tethering, maps, and phonecalls, and it's frustrating that using Verizon as a carrier means we have all sorts of compromises when it comes to functionality because they are supporting ancient network tech.
I'm just worried that in a world of folding screens and bull**** edge displays, actual good devices like the V30 are going to fall apart in the dev community. If we don't have a fix soon, I'm expecting never to get one.
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Get a V30. Heck, get a V30+! You can have tethering, maps, phone calls on US998. What you cannot have on US998 firmware with Verizon SIM card is Verizon Wi-Fi calling. T-mobile allows it, but Verizon doesn't. But you still get phone calls.
My sister and brother-in-law are both on US998 firmware (former LS998 V30+) on Verizon and they both get VoLTE.
$110 for mint US998 V30+.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/development/us998-lg-v30-us998-us99830a000704-kdz-t3952256
ChazzMatt said:
That answers your question. Your hotspot would work on Verizon firmware IF you paid for it, like they want. There's no mystery.
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ChazzMatt, here's the kicker - that seemed like an obvious and logical argument to me initially as well BUT I had issues initially with not having any of the good stuff on VS996 and ended up on the phone with Verizon.
They assured me that my phone was provisioned for everything but my SIM card was very old (true) and potentially the issue... something about it being issued well prior to VoWiFi being rolled out (likely also true based on quick Google search).
This seemed like a real stretch to me but I ended up at the store with a real decent Rep/Tech (surprising I know) who confirmed that my phone was provisioned for everything but, nonetheless, also thought the SIM was a stretch to resolve the problem.
Fast forward past him having a ton of issues with my account and nicely gaming a bunch of stuff to work around their system (using IMEI/MEID's from the recycle box... lol, I tell the truth and was impressed/shocked); I end up with a new SIM but still have nothing working and he is out of answers as well.
I came back home and started massaging settings via Shortcut Master and eventually got VoWiFi working but came up short on Hotspot which is where my OP came in.
My OP skipped this detail because I thought it was fluff but, to circle back, there may be something relevant in that for the local Rep to have to game their system might suggest Verizon has a technical/provisioning issue with my device.
It wouldn't be the first time I've had a major Telco screw my services up... (I once ended up with a $12K bill in Australia due to Telstra setting my 3G phone up for old school 2G data access which was billed at ludicrous rates - ended up resolved amicably tho I had a major initial flipout).
Windza said:
ChazzMatt, here's the kicker - that seemed like an obvious and logical argument to me initially as well BUT I had issues initially with not having any of the good stuff on VS996 and ended up on the phone with Verizon.
They assured me that my phone was provisioned for everything but my SIM card was very old (true) and potentially the issue... something about it being issued well prior to VoWiFi being rolled out (likely also true based on quick Google search).
This seemed like a real stretch to me but I ended up at the store with a real decent Rep/Tech (surprising I know) who confirmed that my phone was provisioned for everything but, nonetheless, also thought the SIM was a stretch to resolve the problem.
Fast forward past him having a ton of issues with my account and nicely gaming a bunch of stuff to work around their system (using IMEI/MEID's from the recycle box... lol, I tell the truth and was impressed/shocked); I end up with a new SIM but still have nothing working and he is out of answers as well.
I came back home and started massaging settings via Shortcut Master and eventually got VoWiFi working but came up short on Hotspot which is where my OP came in.
My OP skipped this detail because I thought it was fluff but, to circle back, there may be something relevant in that for the local Rep to have to game their system might suggest Verizon has a technical/provisioning issue with my device.
It wouldn't be the first time I've had a major Telco screw my services up... (I once ended up with a $12K bill in Australia due to Telstra setting my 3G phone up for old school 2G data access which was billed at ludicrous rates - ended up resolved amicably tho I had a major initial flipout).
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To add to the confusion -- this is from the Verizon Pie TWRP-flashable zip ROM thread:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg...lg-v30-joan-vs996-verizon-30c-t3974139/page13
Teldin2 said:
Has anyone had any luck provisioning the hotspot on the stock image? I've tried several methods with no success.
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PerCompLLC said:
No issues at all with me. I use it every day! Worked out of the box.
Sent from my VS996 using Tapatalk
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EDIT: Never mind. He has unlimited data.
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Windza said:
a real decent Rep/Tech (surprising I know) who confirmed that my phone was provisioned for everything but, nonetheless, also thought the SIM was a stretch to resolve the problem.
Fast forward past him having a ton of issues with my account and nicely gaming a bunch of stuff to work around their system (using IMEI/MEID's from the recycle box... lol, I tell the truth and was impressed/shocked)
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My brother-in-law (who could sell snow to Eskimos) and my sister recently switched from AT&T to Verizon with two former LS998 V30+ converted to US998 V30+. NOT bootloader unlocked. Just stock phones.
Yes, "US998" with Oreo 20h are carrier unlocked phones (with CDMA and LTE band 13), but I know you need an already-activated Verizon SIM card. Verizon is NOT going to activate a SIM card on former Sprint LS998 V30+...
But my brother-in-law found a store rep willing to help. The guy said, "They will tell you this phone doesn't work on Verizon, but it does." He activated two SIM cards for them, let them go drive to their neighborhood and test them out. They are switching to Verizon because the upscale neighborhood they are moving to has an AT&T black hole. Only Verizon works there. (Even AT&T microcell doesn't work well, because of size of the house and thick walls. And they don't get AT&T Wi-Fi calling because it's not AT&T branded hardware.)
Any great Verizon signal. Not sure if the rep provisioned VoLTE or not, as I haven't touched the phones recently. But they are very happy. The guy told them, "If something happens and you need help, come to the store and ONLY SEE ME. Don't tell anyone else what I've done."
Nice to find someone like that, but my brother-in-law is GREAT about finding people like that. He's a very successful salesperson and knows how to make people WANT to help him. What's really scary is when he turns his skill set against other salespeople. You should see him when shopping for a car.
"What color are you looking for, sir?"
"Doesn't matter, it's just all sheet metal to me. Color isn't important."
When he really has his eye on that cobalt blue SUV or whatever...
"Oh, that one? I guess I could drive that if you've got nothing better."
When he gets finished, it's like they've been hypnotized.
He walks out with exactly what he came to get, and at fantastic price.

Messaging and Call issues when attempting to flash android 10 roms

I'm pretty new to both rooting and this website, so I apologize in advance for any newbie mistakes I'm gonna make.
Background:
I have a VS-996 which frankensteined and unlocked by following this post . After doing that I flashed pie and then flashed lineage os from here . That rom wasn't very stable and kept crashing, so I tried others. I wound up going with Havoc OS. I believe it was in 3.4 when I first flashed it. I've kept up with the updates up to 3.7.
The Problems:
Havoc OS works fine for me, very stable, except for some reason phone calls and messages(both sms and MMS) are spotty at best. Sometimes texts won't send at all, or they'll act like they sent but the text won't be recieved. Sometimes my phone will say I can make emergency calls only. Group messages and sending pictures don't seem to work at all, at any time. These issues seem most prevalent immediately after booting my phone up. Data works perfectly except sometimes when the phone doesn't like to register that the SIM is inserted for a little bit after booting up.
What I've tried:
I've tried reinstalling the rom.
I've tried installing different Android 10 roms.
I've tried going through the process again starting at the the Frankenstein method and going from there.
I've tried messing with the apn
If I flash back to a stock pie ROM everything goes back to working perfectly, and I'm using my sim in my old V20 while I try to sort this out, so I know the SIM is not to blame.
I've been unable to find anybody else with this particular problem, though that could just be because the problems cover so many different aspects that I'm not sure exactly how to search for answers.
Any help is appreciated, thanks.
olliethehobo said:
Havoc OS works fine for me, very stable, except for some reason phone calls and messages(both sms and MMS) are spotty at best. Sometimes texts won't send at all, or they'll act like they sent but the text won't be recieved. Sometimes my phone will say I can make emergency calls only. Group messages and sending pictures don't seem to work at all, at any time. These issues seem most prevalent immediately after booting my phone up. Data works perfectly except sometimes when the phone doesn't like to register that the SIM is inserted for a little bit after booting up.
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Are you Verizon customer? You say you have VS996.
There's an LOS ROM bug for Verizon SIM card users where upon rebooting the phone you have to make a phone call first to then receive texts. This phone call "registers" the SIM card or whatever. Many people call their voicemail number to satisfy this requirement.
This bug affects all LOS-based ROMs.
Yes I am a verizon customer. I had noticed that making a phone call seemed to help things along when messages wouldn't send. I guess I managed to let my phone die or turn it off enough to hide the fact that it fixed me. Giving it a test just now it seems to be working correctly. I don't know if I'll be happy or mad if the solution turns out to be this simple.
olliethehobo said:
Yes I am a verizon customer. I had noticed that making a phone call seemed to help things along when messages wouldn't send. I guess I managed to let my phone die or turn it off enough to hide the fact that it fixed me. Giving it a test just now it seems to be working correctly. I don't know if I'll be happy or mad if the solution turns out to be this simple.
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Was noted extensively on LOS-16 ROMs, but not discussed as much with LOS-17 (Android 10) ROMs. But earlier this month someone in the Havoc 3.7 (LOS-17 based) thread did bring it up...
July 9, 2020
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/development/rom-havoc-os-3-3-t4062657/page39
XxD34THxX said:
Would anyone happen to know a fix for the having to make a call on verizon to receive incoming calls/text messages-
It's the main thing preventing me from running any android 10 rom. Have an unlocked (True) US998
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gimpy1 said:
I don't know of a fix, but, I always called my voice mail to get it to work. I haven't been on a custom room for a little while. I assume that still works, though.
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However, the larger problem is in six months you will not be able to use LOS-based custom ROMs with V30 on Verizon.
* As of December 31, 2020 Verizon is dropping 3G CDMA to repurpose bandwidth for 5G.
After that date, to make any phone calls on Verizon you will need VoLTE. No LOS-based custom ROMs have VoLTE. You will need stock Verizon firmware. It can be rooted stock firmware; you can use Magisk modules to add features -- but needs to be Verizon firmware for VoLTE.
* T-mobile users are in the same predicament.
In January 2021, T-mobile will be dropping 3G HSPA for same reasons. T-mobile users will need VoLTE, which only comes with V30 stock firmware. However, T-mobile is less stingy. They also allow US998 firmware to have VoLTE and Wi-Fi calling with T-mobile SIM. Whereas Verizon requires Verizon stock firmware, and it needs to have been activated on a phone with Verizon IMEI at some point.
* AT&T will also eventually drop 3G HSPA -- but not until February 2022 (18 months from now).
So, for U.S. V30 owners who wish to run custom ROMs a little longer, you should check out AT&T Prepaid. It's a lot cheaper than "regular" AT&T, but is only for people who own their phones.
18 months is a long time. Anything can happen in 18 months!
AT&T only gives VoLTE to AT&T IMEI phones, as well as iPhones and some other phones I would never own. I've never used an AT&T branded phone on AT&T. I'm an AT&T customer with three native US998 for myself, my wife, my mother -- so I'll cross that bridge when I come to it in February 2022. Will probably give my mother an AT&T V35. Maybe my wife, too. Also, LG may get their act together and produce a good phone fro the LG V70 or LG V80.
Any Verizon, T-mobile (and Sprint), and AT&T MVNOs (Straight Talk, Ting, etc.) will also be affected by these decisions.
I have a more extensive discussion of this issue here:
All U.S. V30/V3O+/V30S will need stock firmware, not LOS-based custom ROMs. When?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/how-to/s-v30-v3o-v30s-stock-firmware-los-based-t4138223

LG V60 (or LG G8) Sunset/VoLTE Success Stories?

Hi everybody. I'm new here. It looks like this is the place where the battle is raging against the poorly handled 3g sunset from AT&T. I need your wisdom and guidance.
Background: March/April 2022- I was on AT&T prepaid with an LG G8 G820UM, happy as a clam until The Sunset happened and I could no longer make phone calls. Spent a good chunk of time in the AT&T store and on the phone with customer service but no one could get it to work even though it was on the approved list. Finally gave up and had to change devices because I needed a phone. Ended up getting another LG phone (because they are great) LG V60 ThinQ LM-V600AM. This worked out of the box with the AT&T prepaid sim card on android 10 for months with no problems. I switched to Red Pocket in September, partially because I was still salty with AT&T and the terrible way they handled The Sunset, and that sim card worked fine as well. 5G, calls, texts, everything. Until yesterday... *dun dun dun*
Somehow I was forced to update to Android 11 via a pushed software update from AT&T. Sadly this broke VoLTE and calling on my V60. Tried rolling thru all the rest of the updates available and got up to Android 12 V600AM30d. No luck. Still no VoLTE. Tried messing around with the Hidden Menu. No luck either. So now I'm looking at the possibility of doing some sort of rollback to Android 10, or some sort of Crossflash on the V60 (or on the G8).
What I want to know is: Who has actually gotten their LG V60 or LG G8 to work properly with VoLTE reliably in 2022?? What carrier?? What software flash?? And most importantly, how do I replicate it? Tell me your success story. Mine is a story of failure and clinging to LG because I like their phones but AT&T apparently doesn't lol.
Thanks for listening.
Yeah it's a crap. ATT dialer is locked down and so is BAND service menu. Something not right w/ Phone info prob b/c ATT lock down hoodoo. I'm on LMV600AM30c A12 Sept2022 and had to edit build.prop . set ro.telephony.default_network=26,11 (26=NR/5G,LTE,GSM,CDMA & 11=LTE Only) for T-mobile. On stock ROMs seems no 5G. I debate if it's truly avail but got 42.xxM on LTE this morning. I think I am going to go back to GSI ROMS. It's PIA 2 erase data every flash. Shame can't share or split /data & switch between slots. GSI actually worked better! There is a thread for restoring . I cross flashed to T-mobile and was fine. Updated & screwed everything up bad. This uses QFIL & "LUN" backups or chunks. IMO think LG would release more tools or remove damn region locks. My savior was here:
LMV600AM Restore/Ugrade Guide
This restore process is intended for the AT&T V60 (lmv600am) model and will WIPE your data so back it up if you want to keep it! This process will restore the lmv600am to original factory state for the AT&T v60 v20q build (a11). I’ve dumped all...
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