So, I've tested this phone for a while now and saw that something was up with the refresh rate of the display. I use Nova Launcher and I could tell that it wasn't as smooth as their own launcher, or the system settings for example. In developer options I turned on the "show refresh rate" toggle and the values were weird, to say the least. When it is operating at 120Hz and everything is smooth, it shows the number 10, but when I go to Nova Launcher, or Reddit Sync for example it shows 60. All of this only happens on the Auto mode, but that is the point of the LTPO Display, so it can work its magic. So as it seems the software doesn't show correctly when its running in 120Hz mode. Also, I would very much like to have Apps that I deem worthy run in 120Hz mode too, not just the ones it chooses by itself.
Strange. My phone is working like it should. Shows 10 fps when the screen is not moving. Shows 120fps as I start moving. I also tested YouTube and videos show the correct fps. 30 fps and 60 fps depending on the video.
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Strange. My phone is working like it should. Shows 10 fps when the screen is not moving. Shows 120fps as I start moving. I also tested YouTube and videos show the correct fps. 30 fps and 60 fps depending on the video.
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Mines exactly the same
well Imma guess that it's something related to me importing my old backup, cause that messed up the AOD too (doesn't matter what I do, it won't turn on)
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Also, I would very much like to have Apps that I deem worthy run in 120Hz mode too, not just the ones it chooses by itself.
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Is there any app that can adjust this per app? I also use some apps that only run at 60hz
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So, I've tested this phone for a while now and saw that something was up with the refresh rate of the display. I use Nova Launcher and I could tell that it wasn't as smooth as their own launcher, or the system settings for example. In developer options I turned on the "show refresh rate" toggle and the values were weird, to say the least. When it is operating at 120Hz and everything is smooth, it shows the number 10, but when I go to Nova Launcher, or Reddit Sync for example it shows 60. All of this only happens on the Auto mode, but that is the point of the LTPO Display, so it can work its magic. So as it seems the software doesn't show correctly when its running in 120Hz mode. Also, I would very much like to have Apps that I deem worthy run in 120Hz mode too, not just the ones it chooses by itself.
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In principle, the level of brightness that you have on influences, manual brightness, I think that from 80-85% brightness it goes from 5 to 1 in refresh rate. I put a capture.
Definitely to do with brightness
At lowest brightness on auto refresh rate, it seems to never drop below 120hz except in certain apps like maps where it'll go to 60hz.
But if I put brightness at about 30%, it can drop to 10hz.
So I wonder what's more battery efficient 0% brightness at 120hz or 30% brightness at 10hz
When in a dark environment, and forced into the 120Hz mode, the LTPO panel’s power consumption isn’t all that different from an LTPS panel ~180mW power penalty that is present at all times, even on a black static screen, because of 120 Hz. That penalty comes from the measured power, with 640 mW and 465 mW in the respective 120 and 60Hz modes. Under a brighter ambient conditions, the panel showcases its technology advantages, and power consumption drops drastically. In the 120Hz mode but with the minimum refresh rate now in the regular '48 Hz' setting, the power figure drops from 640mW to 428mW, which is a massive 220mW drop.
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The phone operating under dark conditions seems to disable the 'seamless' variable refresh rate display, that allows the phone to go into lower frequency modes, but not in all circumstances
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When it comes to the difference in the battery runtimes between running the phone in a dark or a bright environment, there are somewhat small difference. In the 60Hz maximum refresh mode, VRR/LFD gains the phone an additional 4% of battery life. In the 120Hz mode, we see a larger 8.5% jump in runtime.
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via https://www.oled-a.org/ltpo-phone-s...-to-extend-phone-battery-life-etc_070421.html
admirdante said:
So, I've tested this phone for a while now and saw that something was up with the refresh rate of the display. I use Nova Launcher and I could tell that it wasn't as smooth as their own launcher, or the system settings for example. In developer options I turned on the "show refresh rate" toggle and the values were weird, to say the least. When it is operating at 120Hz and everything is smooth, it shows the number 10, but when I go to Nova Launcher, or Reddit Sync for example it shows 60. All of this only happens on the Auto mode, but that is the point of the LTPO Display, so it can work its magic. So as it seems the software doesn't show correctly when its running in 120Hz mode. Also, I would very much like to have Apps that I deem worthy run in 120Hz mode too, not just the ones it chooses by itself.
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I am having this issue also. I get only 60Hz with Nova but using default launcher I get 120Hz and it is adaptive.
So far I setting entire device at 120Hz but would prefer if there was option to enable adaptive working with Nova
_zen_aku said:
I am having this issue also. I get only 60Hz with Nova but using default launcher I get 120Hz and it is adaptive.
So far I setting entire device at 120Hz but would prefer if there was option to enable adaptive working with Nova
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The problem is not that the GT2 PRO does not have an option to enable adaptive refresh rate with Nova, the problem is that Nova is not fully optimized with Android 12.
spiral5 said:
The problem is not that the GT2 PRO does not have an option to enable adaptive refresh rate with Nova, the problem is that Nova is not fully optimized with Android 12.
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It seems to be incorrect. In nova Discord, Administrator said Nova work well with LTPO 2.0 screen. And as far as I can see, all launcher I tested don't work with LTPO on realme GT 2 pro except default launcher...
Use set edit and put peak_refresh rate to 1 Also i added user_refresh rate to 1 and min_refresh rate to 1. Now is working 120 & variable rate in all app.
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Use set edit and put peak_refresh rate to 1 Also i added user_refresh rate to 1 and min_refresh rate to 1. Now is working 120 & variable rate in all app.
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How? Can you explain a bit more about that?
Look here, marked with red in set edit app. Ignore my mistake on cameră, i was in hurry
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Use set edit and put peak_refresh rate to 1 Also i added user_refresh rate to 1 and min_refresh rate to 1. Now is working 120 & variable rate in all app.
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It seem ok after reboot ! I don't know how you find this but good work. Thank you.
Edit : after few minutes nova go back to 60htz. System setting "peaking_refresh_rate" automatically go back to 60
Set your screen to 120 (High) in settings, and never change )
Will this just force 120hz or working LTPO for 3rd party apps?
Working ltpo, If You want only 120 enter same settings by adb.
Ok but what's exactly the point of your settings?
If I set 120hz always in settings, LTPO will also work and go down to 60-30-10hz if not touching the display
Lol, this is for apps with no 120hz support like camera, some browsers, other launchers, even some games
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Do you know a method to permanently force resolution on 120hz ? Adaptive mode on OneUI 3.1 it doesn't allow this job
wolfgart said:
Do you know a method to permanently force resolution on 120hz ? Adaptive mode on OneUI 3.1 it doesn't allow this job
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sadly you can't this feature may be come for next flagship
sagarb said:
sadly you can't this feature may be come for next flagship
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Next flagship ? Why ? Next OTA maybe
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Next flagship ? Why ? Next OTA maybe
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I thought same for n20ultra but till know it stayed in adaptive only.if you compare s20ultra always120hz.somtimes you feel lag while scrolling and not has smooth as always 120hz.
That's a shame for a Top like this
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I thought same for n20ultra but till know it stayed in adaptive only.if you compare s20ultra always120hz.somtimes you feel lag while scrolling and not has smooth as always 120hz.
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You can’t compare the S 21 display to the S 20 dispay. It is a different type of Display. The S 21 display may have an improved LTPO technology.
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1354241875394220032
I believe that this app can help you with this.
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About this app: Refresh Rate Mods Change default refresh rates -Easily change the overall refresh rate settings of devices supporting multiple refresh rates. -Set supported mid refresh rates as the maximum refresh rate limit for battery...
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The phone never seems to go below 120 for me. Unless I open a game. Then it's a stuttering messy 60. It's better to open the game after setting the phone to 60 first.
(In using Show frame rate from developer settings)
Also Chrome browser stutters even tho it shows 120.
So I play a game that's called wordzee. Works fine on first start.. but If I move to a new app and come back to the game the frame rate is a stutter fest.
Even if I close and restart the game, it sometimes still stutters.
This also happens with Chrome browser. But on the browser, it happens immediately after I use Smart Select with the spen. The scrolling stutters. Only way to fix is to close and reopen.
Anyone with similar experience? Is it the 120hz to blame? (It almost looks like it goes below 60hz)
yes most games are locked to 60 fps
vandal4e said:
yes most games are locked to 60 fps
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What's weird is that if i put the phone in standard 60 then launch the game, it is a smooth 60. If the phone auto adjusted from 120 to 60... it is a janky 60. It's visually noticeable.
I'm also showing the frame rate from developer settings. The phone never dips below 120. Even on static images.
Guess I'm not sure how this adaptive refresh rate is actually supposed to work.
Hi,
I am having a realme gt2 pro global version(RMX 3301) Realme UI version 3.0. Build number RMX330_11_A.16.
I screen refresh rate is set to auto. and the screen is stuck with the max refresh rate of 120hz in almost all time. except for in a few apps where it reduces to 60 and once in a while to 30hz. Why the phone is not varying from (1 to 120hz) as it was advertised.
Any solution is appreciated.
Thanks
If it goes down to 30hz, your LTPO 2.0 screen is working. 1hz will only appear when you're not touching the screen and it's on and a static image is on it.
You have to disable in develop mode permission monitoring witch you enabled an forgot about.
Also do not forget that it is dependant on the level of screen brightness. The brighter your screen, the lower the refresh rate will go.
Maybe you where using third part app. Enable show screen refresh rate in developer options. That was also my mistake.
Hi everyone,
I wanted to refresh the topic. I have system version A13 RMX3301_11.C.11. In the screen options, the refresh rate setting is set to "auto". Out of curiosity, I turned on the option to "show the refresh rate" in the developer settings. Using only the launcher (stock realme) itself, I noticed that when the "disable permission monitoring" option in developer settings is turned off, the refresh rate on the screen varies ,depending on the brightness of the screen, from 1 to 120Hz. When "disable permission monitoring" is enabled, the screen refresh rate when using launcher is always 120Hz. I have not compared the this in other programs, but for example in chrome it goes down to 60/30Hz but in the launcher itself it is always 120Hz. This is weird to me, and I don't know if it's a bug or a feature. Is anyone else experiencing similar behavior or is it just me? Maybe someone knows a way to make the variable refresh rate active even when the "disable permission monitoring" option is turned on?
I use Nova launcher and at maximum brightness the value drops to 1.
Settings, Chrome and Google calendar checked and result also 1.
You have
Stano36 said:
I use Nova launcher and at maximum brightness the value drops to 1.
Settings, Chrome and Google calendar checked and result also 1.
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And you have exactly the same behaviour when "disable permission monitoring" is on and off?
Where can I find it, I don't know what you mean.
settings -> additional setting -> developer options -> disable permission monitoring
Does not respond, goes to 120 Hz.
What is the expected behaviour at "120hz" mode in Zenfone 9? Is it supposed to be 120hz all the time, or fall to 60hz when screen is idle?
In my case it's 120hz all the time in "120hz" mode (except in very few apps such as maps and camera where its always 60hz) but I've seen some users report their one will eventually drop to 60hz when screen is not touched for a second or two.
You can enable "show refresh rate" in developer options and check for yourself
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You can enable "show refresh rate" in developer options and check for yourself
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Windoors said:
In my case it's 120hz all the time in "120hz" mode (except in very few apps such as maps and camera where its always 60hz) but I've seen some users report their one will eventually drop to 60hz when screen is not touched for a second or two.
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I've already checked it.
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I've already checked it.
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oh sorry i misunderstood. I can confirm on maps and camera it switches to 60hz.
palamosteliaro said:
oh sorry i misunderstood. I can confirm on maps and camera it switches to 60hz.
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same here, but everywhere else does your one fall to 60hz when screen isn't touched? or does it remain 120hz?
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same here, but everywhere else does your one fall to 60hz when screen isn't touched? or does it remain 120hz?
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yes it also does that. Try the high performance mode, maybe 120hz is constant there
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yes it also does that. Try the high performance mode, maybe 120hz is constant there
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I'm using dynamic and yet it's 120hz constant.
I'm getting a similar thing, just after the most recent OTA update I think.
I keep it on Dynamic mode with my refresh rate set to 120Hz in the display settings. Sometimes it drops down to 60Hz (or even lower? not tried dev tools yet for checking the actual refresh rate) and looks really choppy. If I switch between High performance and Dynamic sometimes it seems to fix itself.
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I'm getting a similar thing, just after the most recent OTA update I think.
I keep it on Dynamic mode with my refresh rate set to 120Hz in the display settings. Sometimes it drops down to 60Hz (or even lower? not tried dev tools yet for checking the actual refresh rate) and looks really choppy. If I switch between High performance and Dynamic sometimes it seems to fix itself.
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What I found is that when brightness is high (70s or more) it will drop to 60hz when screen not touched. But below it it's always 120hz. I'm using dynamic mode. I found it to behave same in high performance mode too. Can you please confirm?
Windoors said:
What I found is that when brightness is high (70s or more) it will drop to 60hz when screen not touched. But below it it's always 120hz. I'm using dynamic mode. I found it to behave same in high performance mode too. Can you please confirm?
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I switched on the refresh rate in developer mode and I can confirm I'm getting the same thing as you're saying here. It goes to 60Hz after being on high brightness and not being touched for a while (doesn't seem consistent as to how long it takes though). I've had it happen and both dynamic and high-performance modes as you say.
Hello,
I have this phone for a couple of days now and the refresh rate managment is so bad on it. In apps like Youtube or Twitch it jumps between 60 and 30 Hz making videos stutter. Games are also locked to 60 Hz/60 FPS however this can partially be worked around with SetEdit. Sadly even after changing refresh rate values in SetEdit the refresh rate and FPS lowers as soon as I lift my finger from the screen and this leads to stutter in games that require you to swipe often etc.
Finally I found that after enabling "Disable permission monitoring" in developer options in combination with SetEdit, makes the refresh rate stay at 120 Hz all the time and the stuttering in apps is gone and FPS in games doesn't drop as soon as I lift my finger from the screen. This is all great but I am unsure how safe it is to disable permission monitoring. I tried some apps and they still ask for permissions. I even tried to grant permission via ADB and it wouldn't let me because "the app didn't ask for this permission". Does anyone have an idea what exactly this option does and how dangerous is to leave permission monitoring disabled?
TL;DR: Found out that I can fix refresh rate to 120Hz with "Disable permission monitoring" developer option enabled but I don't know how safe it is to leave it like that.
I believe is used only when install app s from adb. Its safe to use.
For me, turning "disable permission monitoring" to "on" is not enough to have 120Hz in all apps. It works in system launcher, settings and some apps but in many apps refresh rate still goes down to 30 / 60Hz (especially when brightness is above 50%). I need to use additional app to have always 120Hz. Did you change anything else that enabling "disable permission monitoring" is enough?
I am looking everywhere what else in the system changes when this setting is "on" but can't find any information so far.
KrzysztofJ said:
For me, turning "disable permission monitoring" to "on" is not enough to have 120Hz in all apps. It works in system launcher, settings and some apps but in many apps refresh rate still goes down to 30 / 60Hz (especially when brightness is above 50%). I need to use additional app to have always 120Hz. Did you change anything else that enabling "disable permission monitoring" is enough?
I am looking everywhere what else in the system changes when this setting is "on" but can't find any information so far.
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Nah, I have to use SedEdit + "Disable permission monitoring" to make it stay at 120 Hz permamently. I bought the 2$ feature pack for SetEdit so it automatically changes the refresh values when I open the app after restarting my phone.
What I would like to do is to skip the "Disable permission monitoring" because it sounds like a security threat but I can't seem to find a workaround for this yet. I tired giving IGNORE_BATTERY_OPTIMIZATIONS permission to a game but it won't let me. Tried some other command that whitelisted the same app to ignore the battery optimizations and the command worked but it didn't fix the problem with FPS dropping after I lift my finger off the screen.
There's clearly some terrible "optimization" working in the background and we have no control over it which is a sad joke. And it's not an Android problem because I tested the same excact thing on S21 Ultra 5G and it sticks to 120Hz when it should. It's BBK doing it and refusing to even talk about it (the same thing happens on all BBK phones from what I gathered).
Edited first post to clear things up and corrected it a bit.
Can you share which refresh values you change in SetEdit?
put peak_refresh rate to 1
Peak refresh rate in setedit app. Change it to "1" and 120Hz will be system wide enabled. No need to play with other permissions.
Works on my GT2 so it should work in GT2 Pro as well.
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"1" and 120Hz will be system wide enabled. No need to play with other permissions.
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It is not enough to force 120Hz permamently. It is still variable (dropping to 60,30 or 1 Hz depending on displayed content and screen brightness) after setting peak refreshrate to 1
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It is not enough to force 120Hz permamently. It is still variable (dropping to 60,30 or 1 Hz depending on displayed content and screen brightness) after setting peak refreshrate to 1
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On the GT2 panel it stays at 120 Hz permanently. But then again I know it is a different type of panel then the one on the GT2 Pro.