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Hi,
Some really bad news for anyone that's been unfortunate enough to purchase an A7 EU version.
I have contacted ZTEUK on FB messenger directly to ask about the Nougat update and this is their exact response.
"Hi Mike, Please keep an eye out on our social channels for any information regarding updates. We do not currently have plans to update to Nougat though this may change. Thanks, the ZTE UK team."
Taking into account the amount of EU phones out there this is beyond dreadful in terms of treatment, the question is, where do we go from here? I didn't want to bother rooting the phone, but is there any option left now it's possibly not getting the update at all?
No daydream, no patch fixes, no volume fix, the list goes on!!
How do we pressure ZTE into dealing with this, failing that what other options do we have?
Mike
Haha I doubt it, these customer reps have no idea.
There has been an extensive Nougat test going on as well as confirmations on twitter etc.
G Version will get Nougat.
iNaruX said:
Haha I doubt it, these customer reps have no idea.
There has been an extensive Nougat test going on as well as confirmations on twitter etc.
G Version will get Nougat.
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I hope so, that brings some comfort, really the reps should not give throw away replies like that.
Thanks :good:
Don't worry, it just furthers the idea that global organization of ZTE is totally lacking, especially for their EU customers (far behind their american ones). Nougat was announced first by ZTE Germany back in November (originally planned for end of january) and is currently undergoing beta testing as far as I know. The thing is, ZTE Germany is apparently taking care of the dev for the G version but they officially supports only german customers, even if they kinda tried to create an "european" community. Other european branches (it's the case for ZTE france at least) of ZTE seem to be only PR posting advertisement on facebook/twitter. IMO, your rep just copy pasted the basic stonewalling response to this question and has either no information whatsoever or wanted to answer politely without getting carried away.
(If anyone has more info, feel free to correct me)
G Variant will sure get the Nougat Update soon, ZTE UK should know this too dont know why you got this answer from them. But if you G Variant user, follow ZTE Mobile Deutschland on Facebook
Coming from US nougat. There's still bugs, battery drain, etc. Issues that are in the release. I'd rather be back in MM honestly. A stable and complete release would've been better instead of releasing early due to demand. Just look up the issue with whatsapp. Millions of users and they didn't notice such a glaring bug.
I can say without a doubt in my mind that the Axon 2017G will also get Nougat. They are usually a little behind the US team with releases so I imagine it will probably be sometime in March
I wouldn't be surprised if you could just flash the bootstack and modem from LineageOS thread and flash A2017U system on top. I'm totally satisfied with LineageOS, so I'm not even thinking on doing that now or in the future.
The G Variant needs more time than us because they want to fix all founded bugs and increase the quality. like musicdjm said, it will release end feb. or beginning of march. zte could Release it in the end of January but there were too many bug, because of that they started a beta test phase and postponed the Release date
mario972 said:
I wouldn't be surprised if you could just flash the bootstack and modem from LineageOS thread and flash A2017U system on top. I'm totally satisfied with LineageOS, so I'm not even thinking on doing that now or in the future.
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musicdjm said:
You can NOT, the team installed system checks to make sure of this as they have different bootloader and modem
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Yes you can. Few of us already using the B15 N ROM on the G model. All you need is an unlocked BL and TWRP, flash the universal N bootloader, N modem for G and the B15 stocksystem all by DrakenFX.
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Yes you can. Few of us already using the B15 N ROM on the G model. All you need is an unlocked BL and TWRP, flash the universal N bootloader, N modem for G and the B15 stocksystem all by DrakenFX.
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Have you done this yourself and it worked;
Yes and yes
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Can you please point me the thread where these files and the guide to do it are?
Chinese android 7?
I also interested in Chinese 7.0, no news or any rumours about it.
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Yes and yes
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Thats not correct , the phone never boot after this procedre!
The Phone stuck on Bootloader Warning Screen.
Ive testet much more 1 time .
Really is no Boot!
tester2017 said:
Thats not correct , the phone never boot after this procedre!
The Phone stuck on Bootloader Warning Screen.
Ive testet much more 1 time .
Really is no Boot!
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make sure to use su 2.79 (not sr3).
itsxiao said:
Coming from US nougat. There's still bugs, battery drain, etc. Issues that are in the release. I'd rather be back in MM honestly. A stable and complete release would've been better instead of releasing early due to demand. Just look up the issue with whatsapp. Millions of users and they didn't notice such a glaring bug.
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I have the US ZTE Axon 7 (A2017U) and updated to Nougat. What is the WhatsApp bug again? I haven't noticed anything but you can tell me and I will cry in a corner once I know. :crying:
@op When everything else fails, go to change.org and create a petition. The ASUS Zenfone 2 users did that and they are apparently getting the Nougat update in July.
/xuggs
The Axon7 G Variant will directly get 7.1.1
There are lots of roms for g5 but not for se (well at least i could not find any). so yeah i want new os, Will LG G5 SE get any custom roms and/or android oreo update?
hello
I suppose this device is not well endorsed by the community: I had a nexus5x that bootlooped twice and Lg offered me this device. In exchange.
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That version of phone has no unlocked bootloader.
N5X_ita said:
I suppose this device is not well endorsed by the community: I had a nexus5x that bootlooped twice and Lg offered me this device. In exchange.
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Decent size
Sent from my LG-H830 using XDA Labs
Correct me if I'm wrong but Lg h840 has been added to the list.
http://developer.lge.com/resource/mobile/RetrieveBootloader.dev?categoryId=CTULRS0703
So as I guess SE version won't receive oreo update?
anyone get oreo update?
No g5 has Oreo
dont think the g5 will get oreo.
mkdr said:
dont think the g5 will get oreo.
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Here is some news about LG's plans for Oreo on the G5 and the G6:
http://www.androidfinest.com/lg-g6-and-g5-android-o/
If this article is correct, unlocked G5s should start seeing Oreo available next month, with carrier models following soon thereafter.
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Here is some news about LG's plans for Oreo on the G5 and the G6:
http://www.androidfinest.com/lg-g6-and-g5-android-o/
If this article is correct, unlocked G5s should start seeing Oreo available next month, with carrier models following soon thereafter.
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If thats correct some verizon users should see it this month or next lol....
I am not gonna hold my breath....
what do you think?
Will it help if maybe everyone of us will start complaining openly about the lack of the Oreo update?
Maybe a lot of mentions on twitter/fb on their social media will speed up the process
Hi all. Who else concerned about future security patches?? Im pretty much tired of endless android versions. I would rather get security patches. Anyone else got january security patch??? I hope this phone will get it too soon.
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Here is some news about LG's plans for Oreo on the G5 and the G6:
http://www.androidfinest.com/lg-g6-and-g5-android-o/
If this article is correct, unlocked G5s should start seeing Oreo available next month, with carrier models following soon thereafter.
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Cool thanks... I really hope so...
#RIPNexus ?? No more updates from Google??
#Google #Nexus6P #Nexus5X #PixelC
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That's old news bro........
6P was stopped a good while ago back in 2017.....
No it didn't. It's still gonna get official 8.1.0 updates till November.
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No it didn't. It's still gonna get official 8.1.0 updates till November.
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Yeah. Security updates till November, Official updates are no longer given out to the 6p.
Time to get a new phone. May I suggest LG V30 found it to be pretty close in size. Performance is great as well as battery. The only issue one might have is the LG UI but it's not that bad.
Exodusche said:
Time to get a new phone. May I suggest LG V30 found it to be pretty close in size. Performance is great as well as battery. The only issue one might have is the LG UI but it's not that bad.
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I tried a G6 and their UI is kinda meh also a ton of bloatware. I'm going for Android one and gravitating towards a Nokia 7+. Android one comes close to the Nexus experience.
DirtyHennessy said:
I tried a G6 and their UI is kinda meh also a ton of bloatware. I'm going for Android one and gravitating towards a Nokia 7+. Android one comes close to the Nexus experience.
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But you won't unlock the bootloader...
jamaniek said:
But you won't unlock the bootloader...
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Always unlocked bootloaders,but i don't like it when i first have to remove bloatware and fiddle around to get the stock UI running. There are always seem to be some minute differences to stock
That's old news bro.
And secondly this is a Nexus phone.
It will never stop getting updates the difference is you will have to update it by yourself.
I wrote an email to the chief technical officer of ZTE and asked if development for the Axon 7 is still ongoing. Here is a screenshot of the answer.
Can you link exactly who you wrote to? I would like to confirm this.
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Can you link exactly who you wrote to? I would like to confirm this.
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Pm for now to avoid possible email spamming.
As for all the others who read this, here is a little more explanation:
He is the technical chief officer of zte and stands in direct contact with the dev team. He is also the reason we got the zip for disabling system write protection in the first place. Without him i wouldn't have gotten the update.zip (with disabled system write protection) and @raystef66 couldn't have made a flashable zip for us.
Great contact! Thanks.
Anyway to get the PIE IMS so we can get wifi calling working on Oreo or Pie?
amphi66 said:
Great contact! Thanks.
Anyway to get the PIE IMS so we can get wifi calling working on Oreo or Pie?
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Volte works on Oreo china
amphi66 said:
Great contact! Thanks.
Anyway to get the PIE IMS so we can get wifi calling working on Oreo or Pie?
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VoLTE should work on any of the big Oreo ROMs. WFC is hit or miss (even on stock ROM). I'm assuming Oreo is gonna be the last android version we can install and still have these things work (unless some dev out there finds a way to get past this roadblock in the future). Either way, I kinda doubt ZTE would provide any further updates for us beyond Oreo. I'm assuming that the response given in the OP meant that they would fix everything that's still broken and missing on 8.0; not begin development for Pie (especially since the Axon 10 is just around the corner, pulling resources into a 3-year-old phone just isn't a sound decision from a business standpoint).
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pulling resources into a 3-year-old phone just isn't a sound decision from a business standpoint).
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It is if ZTE expect some form of customer loyalty on future purchase decisions. Would you buy the Axon 10/11/12 etc. based on your Axon 7 experience? Yes they had disruptions from trade sanctions etc. but that's not the consumers fault and imo ZTE should be doing everything they can to restore faith in their brand.
They're basically starting again.
They need an affordable flagship like the Axon 7 was. If they don't, it will be hard to gather enough sales to start a customer pool and try for return purchase later on.
Current customers are wary, sceptical and untrusting after that whole fiasco and rightly so.
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Great contact! Thanks.
Anyway to get the PIE IMS so we can get wifi calling working on Oreo or Pie?
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VoLTE nd Wifi calling wok fine for me on ZTE's Oreo B20.
RobboW said:
They're basically starting again.
They need an affordable flagship like the Axon 7 was. If they don't, it will be hard to gather enough sales to start a customer pool and try for return purchase later on.
Current customers are wary, sceptical and untrusting after that whole fiasco and rightly so.
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They just need to copy and paste the Axon 7 with newer specs.
Maybe bumping it to 6" in order to have more internal space would do the trick.
I still can't understand how did they think that the Axon 9 Pro was a good idea. They litterally took all that was great about the A7 and...deleted it.
Now...a bit of an on topic question. Instead of releasing 8.0, could they not enter the Android One program with it...especially since they were aiming for stock experience?
Maybe it's been asked before, but what are the implications of entering the AO program,because IIRC, I may have read some time ago something about a partition not existing on the device and ZTE not gambling with a large release, but I can't remember specifically?
TorqueSsS said:
They just need to copy and paste the Axon 7 with newer specs.
Maybe bumping it to 6" in order to have more internal space would do the trick.
I still can't understand how did they think that the Axon 9 Pro was a good idea. They litterally took all that was great about the A7 and...deleted it.
Now...a bit of an on topic question. Instead of releasing 8.0, could they not enter the Android One program with it...especially since they were aiming for stock experience?
Maybe it's been asked before, but what are the implications of entering the AO program,because IIRC, I may have read some time ago something about a partition not existing on the device and ZTE not gambling with a large release, but I can't remember specifically?
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The vendor partition stuff is something else entirely. Some people believed that ZTE would bring Treble support to the Axon while that made very little sense (Treble is a requirement for phones that SHIP with Oreo and above, but it's optional for Oreo, and its main advantage is it makes it easier for OEMs to update major Android versions). It was developed by djkuz and NFound eventually anyways, but only because of the generic ROM benefits
I don't think you can simply slap Android One certification on the middle of a product's life, but even if they could, it would make absolutely zero sense for them... Why be commited to security updates and newer Android versions on a phone that has surely stopped giving any revenue since long ago? Plus I'm not even sure if people prefer stock Android to stuff like One UI where you have a bunch of options
Do not expect to much from ZTE for the Axon 7. Until now they did not release a stable OS and it will not change for the next update.
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Do not expect to much from ZTE for the Axon 7. Until now they did not release a stable OS and it will not change for the next update.
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Marshmallow and Nougat were perfectly stable, if not the chinese versions. i'd say that counts.
The important thing is them fixing Daydream because it doesn't only entail adding daydream back, to run it properly you need to have thermals and the kernel properly tuned. Daydream should put the phone at ~1.3 GHz but I believe they'll have to mess around to make it work as intended anyways
plus all this is useful for LOS
Marshmallow and Nougat had a very bad design and UI because of mifavor. Oreo is nice but extremly unstable.
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Do not expect to much from ZTE for the Axon 7. Until now they did not release a stable OS and it will not change for the next update.
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What next update?
I thought this device was EOL as far as zte was concerned. There hasn't been an official update since august of last year and that had a security update of july '18. That's 6+ months ago. I think we're on our own now....
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What next update?
I thought this device was EOL as far as zte was concerned. There hasn't been an official update since august of last year and that had a security update of july '18. That's 6+ months ago. I think we're on our own now....
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how can you ignore the OP this much??
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seriously, read the OP first
Also, the chinese version still gets updates, the last one was abt 2 weeks ago?
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how can you ignore the OP this much??
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seriously, read the OP first
Also, the chinese version still gets updates, the last one was abt 2 weeks ago?
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Not ignoring OP at all... Simply going by zte's past actions. I've seen these sort of promises with other devices (moto x pure comes to mind) in the past. I'll believe it when I see it.
Got a link to this update from 2 weeks ago? What was the actual update?
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Not ignoring OP at all... Simply going by zte's past actions. I've seen these sort of promises with other devices (moto x pure comes to mind) in the past. I'll believe it when I see it.
Got a link to this update from 2 weeks ago? What was the actual update?
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All I'm saying is, @GodOfPsychos contacted this ZTE guy, he said that an update was going to be released, and then XDA'S EDITOR IN CHIEF contacted that guy and got the same response (with which an article was made). They can bail at any time, but it's not like they are promising Pie anyways
I'm guessing you can't see the attached screenie in the OP? I can see it just fine from XDA Labs
We won't get official Android Pie for Axon 7.
The most I read into that is update to include cut out features like Daydream, probably a security update too. Just a finish of what Oreo 8.0 was supposed to be. I don't think we will even see official Oreo 8.1
If they had just kept with the whole "best sounding phone" idea I'd probably already have bought another ZTE. It was the thing that distinguished them in the crowded market of samey-same phones. At this point I'm clinging to my Axon 7 with my tight little hands, and any update to its stability will be appreciated. [Full disclosure, I'm running the GSI Liquid Remix unofficial build of Pie, but if they do update the official Oreo and get it rock solid, I could see downgrading just to be on an official ROM.]
In case of buying the phone , will i still be receiving the (monthly) google security patches or will i have go for a custom rom?
Regarding the european variant models , single or ds .
tnx in advance!
nicorb said:
In case of buying the phone , will i still be receiving the (monthly) google security patches or will i have go for a custom rom?
Regarding the european variant models , single or ds .
tnx in advance!
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Lg isn't very good with updates. Latest security update we have is from April.
If you want regular software updates,lg isn't the Phone for you.
But custom ROMs are great here.
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Lg isn't very good with updates. Latest security update we have is from April.
If you want regular software updates,lg isn't the Phone for you.
But custom ROMs are great here.
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according to you, which rom deserves to be tried?
nicorb said:
In case of buying the phone , will i still be receiving the (monthly) google security patches or will i have go for a custom rom?
Regarding the european variant models , single or ds .
tnx in advance!
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Well, enterprise recommendation means updates atleast every 90 days...
the European H930 (single sim) has that, its usually every 2 months (even though some updates, like the january one were quite delayed, dont know why)
dont know about official OTAs for the H930DS though
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according to you, which rom deserves to be tried?
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There are a lot of good roms for the Phone. But you should worry about which ROMs to flash after you actually buy the phone.
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There are a lot of good roms for the Phone. But you should worry about which ROMs to flash after you actually buy the phone.
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I've already bought it
nicorb said:
Is the v30 still considered an android enterprise recommended?
In case of buying the phone , will i still be receiving the (monthly) google security patches or will i have go for a custom rom?
Regarding the european variant models , single or ds .
tnx in advance!
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Yes, it's still on the list. As @SGCMarkus points out, that means updates at least every 3 months -- not every month. Sometimes it's been faster than 90 days, but that's the requirement, as well as one major Android letter update. Pie will be that one.
The only reason V30 got on the list with Nougat was because of the "imminent" update to Oreo. Only Oreo phones could have have Enterprise Recommended status. Once we got on Oreo, then the updates have come every 2 or 3 months -- as that was when the Enterprise Recommended requirements kicked in.
Thanks everybody, u have been most helpful !
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Once we got on Oreo, then the updates have come every 2 or 3 months -- as that was when the Enterprise Recommended requirements kicked in.
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Unless of course you're on a 932, in which case you're over six months now ?
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Unless of course you're on a 932, in which case you're over six months now ?
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Yes, the Pie Upgrade debacle threw off the updates schedule.
LG expected to have Pie rolled out before end of June.