Hello guys
Tools Needed to separate digitizer
i got the digitizer from ebay,
hot air gun
exacto knife
i used IR thermometer to measure
double sided tape
first i thought removing the digitizer completely, and i experimented in old broken evo 3D digitizer to find out at what temp the glue between the glass and the plastic digitizer starts to lose(85-90degree Celsius)
after i found out that removing the glass pieces from the digitizer layer would be much easier,
my buddy helped me with the heat gun.
keep it moving don't stop at a spot it will damage the lcd,maintain temp between 85celcius(185F)to90celcius(194F)
using the knife remove the glass piece, remove one piece at a time.don't dig deeper when glass pieces are completely removed start heating at the top slowly peal of plastic digitizer layer from the lcd,
During this process maintain the temp at 85deg cel because dna lcd did't have the side metal support if the temp is low or you hurried means the top layer of the lcd will rip off .
after that i checked the lcd it worked no bleed or blackink
I cleaned the old glue and applied the double sided tape. the seller did't gave me pre cut tape so i have cut 2mm for sides and copied the old glue patter at the top and bottem . align the lcd use tape on the backside don't forget to peal of the soft key light diffuser from old one and transfer it to new one
i attached couple of photo taken doing this in a rar file
a pair of hands will be helpful and luck from Jesus .
Be careful with the knife i cut my fingers twice and glass pieces will fly around so wear glasses.
This is great news, however, I already destroyed my LCD in the process of finding that temperature. I was wondering if you could explain the pattern for the double sided tape. Does it not completely surround the opening around the LCD? Should there be a gap for the digitizer ribbon?
mohit321 said:
This is great news, however, I already destroyed my LCD in the process of finding that temperature. I was wondering if you could explain the pattern for the double sided tape. Does it not completely surround the opening around the LCD? Should there be a gap for the digitizer ribbon?
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you need to make a slot for ribbon cable and holes for front camera and sensor.
Where did you get your double sided tape or could you recommend a source? Thanks
wu_li said:
Where did you get your double sided tape or could you recommend a source? Thanks
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you can use 3m tape. i used nippon tape.
hello
everyone
i have been reparing cellphones for over a year and i made few videos with a lot details about how to separate LCD from the broken gorilla glass. Also i made a video explaning all the theory behind it and after that all the practices so you can see how it is made. I hope it help you all guys.
Theory of how to fix gorilla glass at any samsung galaxy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOAauYYNUuI
how to repair galaxy s4 screen glass replacement (gorilla glass)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J458v0LNkkI
how to remove gorilla glass from LCD on galaxy S3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnuoCm_erYI
how to change display from a galaxy s4 (complete frame LCD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85pOvI6OV_Q
enjoy!
shajubinglish said:
Hello guys
Tools Needed to separate digitizer
i got the digitizer from ebay,
hot air gun
exacto knife
i used IR thermometer to measure
double sided tape
first i thought removing the digitizer completely, and i experimented in old broken evo 3D digitizer to find out at what temp the glue between the glass and the plastic digitizer starts to lose(85-90degree Celsius)
after i found out that removing the glass pieces from the digitizer layer would be much easier,
my buddy helped me with the heat gun.
keep it moving don't stop at a spot it will damage the lcd,maintain temp between 85celcius(185F)to90celcius(194F)
using the knife remove the glass piece, remove one piece at a time.don't dig deeper when glass pieces are completely removed start heating at the top slowly peal of plastic digitizer layer from the lcd,
During this process maintain the temp at 85deg cel because dna lcd did't have the side metal support if the temp is low or you hurried means the top layer of the lcd will rip off .
after that i checked the lcd it worked no bleed or blackink
I cleaned the old glue and applied the double sided tape. the seller did't gave me pre cut tape so i have cut 2mm for sides and copied the old glue patter at the top and bottem . align the lcd use tape on the backside don't forget to peal of the soft key light diffuser from old one and transfer it to new one
i attached couple of photo taken doing this in a rar file
a pair of hands will be helpful and luck from Jesus .
Be careful with the knife i cut my fingers twice and glass pieces will fly around so wear glasses.
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lcd
please help me, I have htc droid dna and want to replace LCD display with touch screen digitizer, does fit model X920e lcd with screen my droid dna? is X920e butterfly and droid dna lcd screen same?
I know this has been discussed before but I would like clarification on what I need to replace on my TF201. I am attaching pictures. I actually sat on my tablet and it damaged the LCD. The glass is fine but the display is not. Can someone tell me what I can do? Do I need to replace the whole screen? It powers on okay. Thank you!
thispdxgirl said:
I know this has been discussed before but I would like clarification on what I need to replace on my TF201. I am attaching pictures. I actually sat on my tablet and it damaged the LCD. The glass is fine but the display is not. Can someone tell me what I can do? Do I need to replace the whole screen? It powers on okay. Thank you!
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If the digitizer glass on the front is okay, you'll need to replace the LCD panel. The digitizer glass and the LCD are separate pieces. When you open your Prime, you'll see that the entire "display assembly" is a sort of sandwich. The digitizer glass is attached with dobule-sided tape to a thin piece of black plastic. The LCD is attached to the other side of the plastic with thin double-sided foam tape. Additionally, there are small brackets that hold the LCD to the plastic.
You're going to need to separate the LCD from the plastic with an exacto then clean away the remaining sticky foam crap. Order a replacement LCD, then reinstall.
Me, I reinstalled mine without using any sticky foam tape. I rely on the brackets. I'm glad I did it that way because I noticed a speck of dust after I re-assembled. It drove me nuts. If I'd used tape, I'd have never been able to get the piece of dust out.
A few notes: the LCD is VERY delicate and VERY fragile. Yours is already broken, so there's no real risk with the old one. The digitizer, comparatively, isn't quite as delicate. Still, BE CAREFUL when removing the LCD from the bracket. You DO run the risk of breaking your digitzer glass.
Also, leave the protective cover on the replacement LCD until the last possible moment of re-assembly. Use rubber gloves. You'll be unhappy if you leave a fingerprint on the replacement. Cleaning off fingerprints with alcohol or Windex risks breaking the new LCD. Did I mention that it's delicate?
Good luck
I do not know if this has been mentioned or brought up before, but I just wanted to let the G2 crowd know that if they want to go the cheaper route and replace just the digitizer on their G2, it is possible with patience! You will be separating the glass from the LCD with a little bit of heat and a lot of caution, so as not to bust that beautiful LCD that these things are packin'. As you all may already know, the front glass is the digitizer so it'll all be replaced and your touch will work again, without busting the bank! This should only be considered if you're a very handy person with some superfine motor skills.
All you really need is a steady heat source of around 200F. I use a griddle, similar to this
http://www.walmart.com/ip/16451315?...56276670&wl4=&wl5=pla&wl6=34449323470&veh=sem
Most people have one of these laying around in a cabinet.
Get on eBay and find the digitizer for the phone and some LOCA UV Adhesive. 10ML is way more than enough.
Take the phone apart, then lay the LCD/Digitizer face down on that griddle and let it sit for about 10 minutes. Use a razor blade to VERY CAREFULLY and slowly peel the glass back. You should see the glass separating from the LCD. Continue this and take your time until all of the glass is removed. Then clean the LCD. It takes some work, this glue is extremely sticky and the only thing I've found to completely remove it is Clorox Surface wipes. They're the kind that come presoaked with some kind of cleaner. Even those take a little elbow grease to completely remove the glue from the LCD surface. It should be shiny. A couple specs wont matter, the LOCA has proven to be great at hiding imperfections. Next you will remove the LCD from the frame of the phone. There will be some connectors following through the bottom half of the phone to the PCB that has the charging port on it. Once the LCD is removed, add a line of LOCA glue to the LCD about as wide as a cigarette. Lay your new glass down on that glue, being careful not to trap too many bubbles. If you have a couple, no problem. You can leave them if it doesn't bother you, or you can push them to the edges. Next, align the LCD with the handy little lines that are printed on the back of the glass. Get something to hold it together, clothespins or hair clamps will do fine. After clamping, once again ensure the glass is aligned properly with the LCD. Then all you have to do is take it outside, let it cure in the sun for about 5 minutes, clean the extra glue up and reassemble the phone!!! I've got one waiting for a glass to come in so as soon as I get that I'll try to post some pics. Enjoy the savings, and the adventure!
add video replace touch screen.
VirtueToVice said:
I do not know if this has been mentioned or brought up before, but I just wanted to let the G2 crowd know that if they want to go the cheaper route and replace just the digitizer on their G2, it is possible with patience! You will be separating the glass from the LCD with a little bit of heat and a lot of caution, so as not to bust that beautiful LCD that these things are packin'. As you all may already know, the front glass is the digitizer so it'll all be replaced and your touch will work again, without busting the bank! This should only be considered if you're a very handy person with some superfine motor skills.
All you really need is a steady heat source of around 200F. I use a griddle, similar to this
http://www.walmart.com/ip/16451315?...56276670&wl4=&wl5=pla&wl6=34449323470&veh=sem
Most people have one of these laying around in a cabinet.
Get on eBay and find the digitizer for the phone and some LOCA UV Adhesive. 10ML is way more than enough.
Take the phone apart, then lay the LCD/Digitizer face down on that griddle and let it sit for about 10 minutes. Use a razor blade to VERY CAREFULLY and slowly peel the glass back. You should see the glass separating from the LCD. Continue this and take your time until all of the glass is removed. Then clean the LCD. It takes some work, this glue is extremely sticky and the only thing I've found to completely remove it is Clorox Surface wipes. They're the kind that come presoaked with some kind of cleaner. Even those take a little elbow grease to completely remove the glue from the LCD surface. It should be shiny. A couple specs wont matter, the LOCA has proven to be great at hiding imperfections. Next you will remove the LCD from the frame of the phone. There will be some connectors following through the bottom half of the phone to the PCB that has the charging port on it. Once the LCD is removed, add a line of LOCA glue to the LCD about as wide as a cigarette. Lay your new glass down on that glue, being careful not to trap too many bubbles. If you have a couple, no problem. You can leave them if it doesn't bother you, or you can push them to the edges. Next, align the LCD with the handy little lines that are printed on the back of the glass. Get something to hold it together, clothespins or hair clamps will do fine. After clamping, once again ensure the glass is aligned properly with the LCD. Then all you have to do is take it outside, let it cure in the sun for about 5 minutes, clean the extra glue up and reassemble the phone!!! I've got one waiting for a glass to come in so as soon as I get that I'll try to post some pics. Enjoy the savings, and the adventure!
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Please post updates....with pics etc.
Have a perfectly good LCD at home now with damaged digitizer and frame I'd rather use vs playing around with these crappy Ebay replacement parts I've gotten in the past month
It is not easy to replace but it is very easy to damage LCD, it's not so expensive to buy new screen with digitizer and frames (90-100$) so i prefer to buy full lcd and dont try to replace digitizer.
So i have read rants on the Z1 having self breaking glass, and alittle on the ultra. Most of the threads on the ultra though have been, slight to moderate abuse (sat on)(backpack of stuff) causing breaks. Not the classic Z1 of "took phone out of front pocket". My normal routine is only having the phone in my front pocket when going from my desk to the car. Other than that its on my desk or left in my car (i hate walking around with a phone in my pants).
Mines coming this week and i kinda want to take some preventive steps, and wondering if sony really is replacing "not blown to bits" screens under warranty in at least the USA.
I hear it comes with a factory "screen protector" that you should leave on, and put another screen protector on top of it. Is that true or is the factory protector just the stock "tabbed" film that should be removed right after opening the box? I have a front/back screen protector coming, but wanted to know if i should peel off the factory one first.
nightanole said:
So i have read rants on the Z1 having self breaking glass, and alittle on the ultra. Most of the threads on the ultra though have been, slight to moderate abuse (sat on)(backpack of stuff) causing breaks. Not the classic Z1 of "took phone out of front pocket". My normal routine is only having the phone in my front pocket when going from my desk to the car. Other than that its on my desk or left in my car (i hate walking around with a phone in my pants).
Mines coming this week and i kinda want to take some preventive steps, and wondering if sony really is replacing "not blown to bits" screens under warranty in at least the USA.
I hear it comes with a factory "screen protector" that you should leave on, and put another screen protector on top of it. Is that true or is the factory protector just the stock "tabbed" film that should be removed right after opening the box? I have a front/back screen protector coming, but wanted to know if i should peel off the factory one first.
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one year in, and no glass breaking
your routine won't break the phone, i'm sure
screen protector, i have one on top of the anti shatter film provided with the phone, both front and back, and both scratched to hell, but too lazy to replace
Definitely put a aftermarket screen protector over the anti shatter film. The ASF is too soft, but is a pain in the arse to remove by all accounts
I've had my ZU for about 9 months now and have dropped it 3 times onto concrete, once without any screen proctor or case, the other two times has been with a wallet/flip case. The last time I dropped it the case even broke - still the screen is intact.
I too thought it wont happen to mine, till it really did, of course it's not self breaking glass for no reason, but more likely the most logical reason I could think of is, the stress accumulated from the daily use, a bit of pressure while in pocket, or backpack, along with the heat / cold temperature, whatever other bull crap from regular use, over a period of time, that stress cause the glass to be broken.
I pretty much babied my Z Ultra, have back casing, Glass M on the front, Skinomi on the back, never dropped, all in like new condition. Then last Sunday I was on my bike ride, put it inside my backpack, along with my wallet, then couple hours later, took it out from my backpack only to find the glass, under the M Glass screen protector, under the original ASF, has a hairline crack, and pretty much as good as brick, since it wont register any touch, I can see a call coming in, but cant answer it since the display doesnt work.
OP said it happens with Z1, I read that it happens with Z2, and it happens with my Z Ultra, so I think it's just something on their glass quality along with their full glass design, it is impacting a small number of them, not all, just small number, but still the problem indeed does exists.
But I still buy another Z Ultra in a heart beat without much thinking, as a matter of fact already got another one from expensys, with the price is so cheap now, the smoothness, the crisp display, the waterproofness, it still worth every penny.
Mine broke in the pocket, and so did others.
It can break. But with that said, the risk yours will break in the pocket with no abuse is small.
Sony aren't very consistent in handling these cases. Sometimes they get it fixed on warranty, sometimes they're not. But if you get a first negative answer just send in a complaint and they might turn around (as in my case).
I just got mine back. I had the asf removed on the previous one, I'm not taking it off now. And I'm doubling up with tempered glass protectors.
i personally recommend removal of the anti shater layer, if you live in humid climates, as it can cause the residual moisture and oils from your fingers to cause key presses. i had a bad issue with this till i spend an hour with a razor blade removing it.
some people also claim that removing the layer voids your warranty, but i had the phone replaced about a month back with my extended warranty and had no issues with replacement regardless of having the film removed.
boystuff said:
i personally recommend removal of the anti shater layer, if you live in humid climates, as it can cause the residual moisture and oils from your fingers to cause key presses. i had a bad issue with this till i spend an hour with a razor blade removing it.
some people also claim that removing the layer voids your warranty, but i had the phone replaced about a month back with my extended warranty and had no issues with replacement regardless of having the film removed.
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There is so much wrong with this post.
boystuff said:
i personally recommend removal of the anti shater layer, if you live in humid climates, as it can cause the residual moisture and oils from your fingers to cause key presses. i had a bad issue with this till i spend an hour with a razor blade removing it.
some people also claim that removing the layer voids your warranty, but i had the phone replaced about a month back with my extended warranty and had no issues with replacement regardless of having the film removed.
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i live right on the equator, and have not had any problems with this (i also use a screen protector on top of the antishatter film). do you mean to say by removing the anti-shatter film, the glass doesn't pick up any fingerprints and oil? a screen can only be oleophobic for so long.
To those who have had the screen crack in their pockets: were you using a hard case to provide rigidity to the device?
I also just received a Z Ultra and read through the massive threads on Sony's forums on these problems. It just seems the device is so thin it has too much flex in the pocket. I'm even hesitant to use the leather flipstyle case if it doesn'tt provide enough rigidity.
I'm thinking maybe the aluminum bumper case with GlassM protectors on both sides would work nicely together. Hopefully the aluminum won't degrade the signal quality too harshly.
luceri84 said:
To those who have had the screen crack in their pockets: were you using a hard case to provide rigidity to the device?
I also just received a Z Ultra and read through the massive threads on Sony's forums on these problems. It just seems the device is so thin it has too much flex in the pocket. I'm even hesitant to use the leather flipstyle case if it doesn'tt provide enough rigidity.
I'm thinking maybe the aluminum bumper case with GlassM protectors on both sides would work nicely together. Hopefully the aluminum won't degrade the signal quality too harshly.
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Those hair thin aluminum bumper cases wont do squat, the thick glassM m shields wont do squat. The device is just too long and think. Your best bet is to treat it like a full size tablet. Dont sit with it in your pocket, dont put it in your bag without being in a separate compartment. The poor thing is like 1/4" thick and made out of aluminum and glass. I still dont know why they choose this glass. I can take my droid incredible with gorilla glass and pound the screen on the corner of a desk over and over, no scratches. This sony phone just doesnt have any flex for the glass.
I just through an iLLumiShield on the front and back so i can throw it on the table and not worry about scratches.
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Those hair thin aluminum bumper cases wont do squat, the thick glassM m shields wont do squat. The device is just too long and think. Your best bet is to treat it like a full size tablet. Dont sit with it in your pocket, dont put it in your bag without being in a separate compartment. The poor thing is like 1/4" thick and made out of aluminum and glass. I still dont know why they choose this glass. I can take my droid incredible with gorilla glass and pound the screen on the corner of a desk over and over, no scratches. This sony phone just doesnt have any flex for the glass.
I just through an iLLumiShield on the front and back so i can throw it on the table and not worry about scratches.
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But if flex is the issue then wouldn't a solid metal frame that doesn't bend around the perimeter of the phone rectify such concern?
luceri84 said:
But if flex is the issue then wouldn't a solid metal frame that doesn't bend around the perimeter of the phone rectify such concern?
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Yes but the aluminum bumper case is very flimsy stamped aluminum. You would need something with zero give like aircraft grade. An aluminum or plastic shell would be the way to go, but That bumper case is just to prevent chiping of the sides, and give a mm lip when laying the phone on its front/back.
I just use a rubber back cover and THAT'S IT. No problems for me. And yes i keep it in my jeans' pocket most of the time. It does hinder my movement a little though
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The better way to deal with the size is not to put in jeans pocket. In winter, jacket pockets I guess are ok. In summer, I guess the best way would be to buy a camera bag or something for this. I think that would solve this problem.
I just got the phone and I am kinda surprised to see how thin it is. Definitely not a phone you should stress too much.
Recently I noticed the rear top right hand blue coloured glass was lifting of the rear of the phone. I don't know if this is a problem with the adhesive or if I damaged it. Has anyone else got this problem ? And what would you recommend I do ?
Can you sort’ve see the inside of the phone?
Sounds like the glue may have just come loose. Try take a hairdryer and warm the back up to melt the glue a little and see if it sticks back down.
The back comes off quite cleanly if you melt it and pull it off. It doesn’t “clip” down. There’s only glue holding it in place.
I’ve taken the back of mine quite a few times and haven’t had to replace the adhesive so there shouldn’t be any harm IF it’s only lifting because of the glue not sticking properly.
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Same problem, started today.
Will try hairdryer tomorrow.
Cheers for the heads up.